Covid/mRNA Vaccine Info General - "Covid Seasonal Flu Vaccines is Society's New Normal" - FDA

[Fliddaroonie]

Nobody I know is dead yet. In fact, except for the one girl with the never-ending period, nobody I know of had side effects for more than three weeks.

I read a lot of stuff on the internet... enough to make me not want to be vaxed, but there's been so many rumors and misinformation I'm taking all online info with a grain of salt at this point.

Dysmonnorrhoea for nigh on a month is not a small thing.

I often see women bitching about "but but but muh Doktorrrr dindo take mah problems srsly!!!!" but the onus falls on us as women to stand the FUCK up for ourselves and push back on shitty care, treatment and diagnoses.


We don't need men to oppress us. We're fucking spineless and pathetic when it comes to the medical system and until we start kicking off and demanding better care and standing up for ourselves, we won't need men to oppress us because we do a fantastic job of it ourselves.


What sort of spineless cucked bitch puts up with three weeks of bleeding and doesn't challenge that and push for someone to take them seriously? Three weeks is bad enough, but longer than that? Fuck nope.

Your friends need to learn patient self advocacy, and stick up for themselves.

 

[EyelessMC]

Dysmonnorrhoea for nigh on a month is not a small thing.
[...]the onus falls on us as women to stand the FUCK up for ourselves and push back on shitty care, treatment and diagnoses.
[...] Your friends need to learn patient self advocacy, and stick up for themselves.

While I mostly agree with your sentiment, the peculiar fear and/or blind trust of authority, particularly of white coats, is endemic to everyone not just women. Every one of us has this unwarranted trembling over contradicting a doctor even if she/he is telling us the opposite of what we know to be true. It's been said before and should always be said again, but exactly, what you said about patient self advocacy is exactly right.

Now I'm sure her friend isn't simply being strung along here, or at least she wouldn't let herself be, but this is a sentiment we all need to keep in mind. We need to speak with our doctors but not kneel to them as if they are the end-all, be-all of knowledge. Most of them graduated long ago and haven't been keeping up with new treatment methods or testing options for things. Others are paid to shill certain meds. Others know better but are so used to their method, their medicine brand, etc. that they refuse to do better for you. Yet others truly believe they are doing their best for you while operating under false assumptions which are reinforced by their peers and superiors in the field.

Doctors are not your spouse. You should always get second opinions from other professionals. Always, especially when your doctor is refusing to listen. They can't experience what you experience, they are separate and fallible people. So research on your own and bring these things up to the doctor. If he/she is good they'll speak to you about it. If they aren't, then DROP THEM.
You never know, you might inform the doctor of something they never considered, like when I told my old primary of xenoestrogens and his eyes widened in surprise. Dude was working PhD for over thirty years and only then did he ever hear the term.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Doctors are not your spouse. You should always get second opinions from other professionals. Always, especially when your doctor is refusing to listen. They can't experience what you experience, they are separate and fallible people. So research on your own and bring these things up to the doctor. If he/she is good they'll speak to you about it. If they aren't, then DROP THEM.

But only if they agree with your schizophrenic rants, right? Otherwise, they're automatically wrong?

 

[knobslobbin]

Well shit, the corporate owned and pro-bigPharma lobby is in 100% agreement that the unvaxxed racist hordes are the problem. You've finally gotten through to me, where can I get find the closest vaccine center!

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Imagine still being this fucking assblasted about a mere vaccine.

 

[Disheveled Human]

Sorry for telling you the truth but I guess nobody gives a fuck so I'll just let whatever happen happen and delete COVID-19 threads if this passes. Fucking idiots.

I'm not saying covid is the death virus of the century or anything. But what happens when something much more serious hits the world like something equivalent to ebola or airborne aids? What government wants to contend with 20% of the population encouraging people to spread it and to not protect themselves. What would you do? Allow society to collapse? Many countries in that situation would have military out on the street ready to shoot you if you fucked around. In short Covid is not that disease but we are seriously fucked when it comes to combating future diseases with more dire outcomes because of retarded people. What if the Anti-Christ is right about it and what would you do if there was a disease in the future that could destroy your society if not handled carefully does freedom trump that? I doubt it.

 

[Null]

What would you do?

 

[Disheveled Human]

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Fair enough, I Liked living in a small town, everyone knows everyone's business but its tight nit and people look after each other. A true sense of community. I could just walk into friends houses thats the kind of trust those communities have.

 

[NoReturn]

I often see women bitching about "but but but muh Doktorrrr dindo take mah problems srsly!!!!" but the onus falls on us as women to stand the FUCK up for ourselves and push back on shitty care, treatment and diagnoses.

"Archive everything" doesn't just apply to retards on the internet. If you aren't tracking your own health and period then you know less about your own body than your local Target because at least the store is tracking each time you buy pads and ibuprophen.

 

[EyelessMC]

What would you do? Allow society to collapse?

...Because of people posting information on the Internet? Are you joking?

I'm no Rothschild nor am I one of the investors who privately own the Federal Reserve, but if I was an elite and not of the elite then I would do what governments should be doing with everything that's not a matter of state secrets and national security: be transparent and truthful

You know the best way to make your spouse suspicious and untrusting of you? Don't tell them what you're doing/where you're going at 10:00pm to 2:00am and take immediate and volatile offense at their mildest of questions. Call them stupid for suspecting anything from what little information they can glean, question their trust in you and belittle them--and then keep telling them it's for their own good. Then, once aspects of what they suspected come to light, pretend that you either don't know what they're talking about or that you never told them they were stupid.

It's literal basic psychology: If you want people to heed you they need to trust you. If you want their trust then simply alleviate their concerns with truthful and open information. The killing blow of conspiracy theories is the truth. Even if you have ulterior motives, even if some lies need to be sprinkled in, don't endanger peoples' welfare with perpetual deceit and secretive gain. This thread and posts like it across the net should not be censored for being "dangerous" or "anti-vax". The information they convey should be addressed and discussed openly with reason, actual medical science and even debate. In short, transparency and truth.

INB4 "Why bother? No one would believe anyway because people just believe what they want to believe!"
And that's retarded, because that kind of thinking has been ingrained into you and everyone from early ages in order to retard both your intellect and understanding of the world.
People need a constant flow of information to allay their natural psychological inclination to grim imagination. Fear is the enemy, and transparency and truth are its killing blows in a situation like this, not MORE concealment and deceit. Telling the truth while addressing new information will also alleviate their fear. Fear is what you're confronting, not just peoples' beliefs.

You already know that they know this is the case, because that's why Fauci and Biden did a Youtube tour with "influencers". That was false transparency. I'm speaking about real transparency. And as for censorship, the more you keep lying, covering up and attacking those whose deepest concerns are incited by the bits of information which fall from between your withholding fingers, the less people will trust you. Basic.
[EDIT: When I say "you" I don't mean you specifically. I'm speaking generally.]

TL;DR What would someone do, if placed in a position of leadership, to keep "society from collapsing"? Not gaslight and censor the Internet like the CCP. Instead just follow the first rule of Sun Tzu: The Moral Law

The Moral Law causes the people to be in complete accord with their ruler, so that they will follow him regardless of their lives, undismayed by any danger.

 

[Fanatical Pragmatist]

Allow society to collapse?

Don't threaten me with a good time.

What if the Anti-Christ is right about it and what would you do if there was a disease in the future that could destroy your society if not handled carefully does freedom trump that?

 

[GloryHole Stalker]

I'm not saying covid is the death virus of the century or anything. But what happens when something much more serious hits the world like something equivalent to ebola or airborne aids? What government wants to contend with 20% of the population encouraging people to spread it and to not protect themselves. What would you do? Allow society to collapse? Many countries in that situation would have military out on the street ready to shoot you if you fucked around. In short Covid is not that disease but we are seriously fucked when it comes to combating future diseases with more dire outcomes because of retarded people. What if the Anti-Christ is right about it and what would you do if there was a disease in the future that could destroy your society if not handled carefully does freedom trump that? I doubt it.

If the media and TPTB hadn't treated this like the the literal Plague, and scare the shit out of people for political reasons/ratings/clicks etc, properly release the vaccines (as in thoroughly tested etc.)... then this would not likely even be an issue. The well has been poisoned for many though, and for what?

 

[Vince McMahon]

If the media and TPTB hadn't treated this like the the literal Plague, and scare the shit out of people for political reasons/ratings/clicks etc, properly release the vaccines (as in thoroughly tested etc.)... then this would not likely even be an issue. The well has been poisoned for many though, and for what?

Judging from how the "circlejerk breakers" operate, they won't dignify you with a thought out response.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Imagine still being this fucking assblasted about a mere vaccine.

Are you going to keep up this line when it's a twice a year vaccine for bullshit reasons?

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

Are you going to keep up this line when it's a twice a year vaccine for bullshit reasons?

Are you going to give up this nonsense when that doesn't happen?

 

[Lemmingwise]

Are you going to give up this nonsense when that doesn't happen?

What nonsense am I keeping up?

Also answer the question.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

What nonsense am I keeping up?

Also answer the question.

I assume you're part of the "The vaccine kills more than it protects/is useless" crowd. Otherwise you would not have felt addressed by that general statement that made you pick up a conversation with me in the first place.

And the answer is no. I won't continue that line if it turns into a twice a year vaccination for bullshit reasons.
I'm not seeing that happening at the moment either.

So what about you, how about you answer the question?

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

I'm not saying covid is the death virus of the century or anything. But what happens when something much more serious hits the world like something equivalent to ebola or airborne aids? What government wants to contend with 20% of the population encouraging people to spread it and to not protect themselves.

That wouldn't happen. One of the reason the "bubonic Chinese airborne cancer-AIDS" thing stank like a week-old fish is because the very same people pushing this line weren't acting like they believed it. Politicians sneaking out to bone the mistress, Pelosi getting her hair done, Newsom at the French Laundry, the entire BLM shit show happening with the tacit (or explicit) approval of the ruling class... I could go on, but you get the point. If famous people who broke quarantine wound up dying by shitting out their liquidised organs, 1) far fewer people would be breaking quarantine and 2) people would believe it wasn't bullshit because there were tangible consequences for doing so. Meanwhile, back in Clown World, more than half the people I know got this terrible plague sweeping the nation, and not a single one died. Only one got seriously sick, and that was no worse than a bad flu. I got it, and wouldn't even have known I had it if someone else in my house hadn't shown symptoms.

People aren't retarded. When you act like it's the second coming of the Black Death for a disease with a >99% survival rate, whose average death has what, 2.3 comorbidities, the disconnect between the propaganda and reality is going to cause cognitive dissonance. People will feel like they're being lied to because they absolutely are. And if people don't trust you after you lie to them, they are not the asshole here.

 

[Lemmingwise]

So what about you, how about you answer the question?

I couldn't answer the question if I didn't ask for clarification on what you meant first, could I?

I don't think we have nearly enough data to subject this many people to these different vaccines. As lucrative as it looked, I never chose to be a paid medical guinea pig and I don't intend to be one for free either.

So yes, after the third trial on my friends, family and coworkers is finished and there don't seem to be serious long term side effects after 3-5 years, I'll probably take it too.

But considering I saw an undercurrent of trying to force people to get vaccinated for flu's a decade ago and people finally are putting the pieces of control in place to restrict work, travel and pastime unless you get vaccinated, I expect there'll be two or three other vaccines by then, and I'm not sure what I'll do if that future comes to pass. Take each of them after 5 years? How can I even monitor long term effects when people becomes such medical cocktails and how antivax would do everything to remain off the grid, get fake vaccines, or otherwise? The data would be useless.

I guess I'll have to see how I would respond to that.

I've got like 15 vaccines in my life, but those had completed their third trials.

But you'll see. Constant parade of vaccination incoming. I warned you and you were skeptical. At one point you'll think: that fucker online was right.

 

[Otterly]

But what happens when something much more serious hits the world like something equivalent to ebola or airborne aids?

People will react accordingly. If this was the plague and people were dropping dead, the public would freak out. If this pandemic had affected kids (thank fuck it hasn’t in the main) people would flip out. The reason people are not all freaking out now is that they can SEE this isn’t the plague. Be honest, if you had no tv and internet telling you about covid would you even know it happened? You wouldn’t, you might think you’d had the flu. If there’s an andromeda strain situation in the future you don’t need draconian rules - people will be shitting themselves and do what’s needed. To destroy our freedom now for this just in case is wrong.

If the media and TPTB hadn't treated this like the the literal Plague, and scare the shit out of people for political reasons/ratings/clicks etc, properly release the vaccines (as in thoroughly tested etc.)... then this would not likely even be an issue.

Yeah i agree. Thing is, there will be ‘the big one’ at some point. What scientists have been pushing for for years is much better early warning systems in public health. Have we got them? Oddly no. The flu surveillance system ain’t bad but there’s nowhere near enough transparency in world governments to truly head off whatever the next real killer is.