Everything Chris told me about his girlfriend - a/k/a hindsight is 2020

Even if he just said it
That's the problem. He didn't just say "I've fucked my mother". He had reaaaaaally detailed story of how it began and went on. We all know that he isn't able to come up with something this elaborate on the spot, so if he indeed didn't harm Barb, he probably was fantasizing about it for at least a month. Just to give the idea - would let a guy, who has a fanfiction account with lots of stories about sex with underage, to babysit your children? Same applies here.

EDIT: Actually, that's slightly wrong to compare. Imagine that a guy who is going to babysit your child has a rape fanfiction with not just any underage person, but specifically with your kid.
 
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As bad as I feel for Null, I think he and too many others forget that people like Chris are never harmless. People operating at this level of fucked up for this amount of time always end up hurting someone, without fail. I'm amazed it didn't end up being worse, honestly.
 
I thought Chris couldn't get a hard one due to the hormones. Is Chris still on them?
I remember watching a documentary about pedophiles once, who were serving time and as part of their sentence they were chemically castrated.

They asked one of the pedos if he thought the hormones/blockers/whatever the fuck they were using to “castrate” them was working, and the guy goes: “Oh yeah, it makes a huge difference! I used to masturbate 6-8 times a day, now I only do it once or twice or three times a day!

So yeah. Whatever horsepiss pills or gel he was taking might have dulled his drive and dick a bit, but nature finds a way.

Even for the most deviant and unnatural of acts.

I know it hurts, you can't deal with it until you accept it though.

The Five Stages of Chris-Chan incest denial.


1: “Ha! You niggas been had! Fake saga is fake and gay!”

2: “Ok, maybe the messages are real. But I don’t think it’s actually happened. It’s just trolls playing along with Chris’s weird playacting!”

3: “CLEARLY the trolls made him say these things! It’s so obvious a setup!”

4: “Goddamn troll manipulated poor Chris into fucking his own mother!”

5: “Chris... Fucked his mother.”
 
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The Five Stages of Chris-Chan incest denial.


1: “Ha! You niggas been had! Fake saga is fake and gay!”

2: “Ok, maybe the messages are real. But I don’t think it’s actually happened. It’s just trolls playing along with Chris’s weird playacting!”

3: “CLEARLY the trolls made him say these things! It’s so obvious a setup!”

4: “Goddamn troll manipulated poor Chris into fucking his own mother!”

5: “Chris... Fucked his mother.”

1. Whiteknighting.
2. Weening.
3. A-logging.
4. Crying.
5. Shitposting.
 
Chris actually withholding details shows that somewhere, deep within his broken mind, still knows that this is fucked up, and that honestly is one of the most disturbing parts for me
Yer he is showing a very conniving side of him I didn’t think possible

The Five Stages of Chris-Chan incest denial.



1: “Ha! You niggas been had! Fake saga is fake and gay!”

2: “Ok, maybe the messages are real. But I don’t think it’s actually happened. It’s just trolls playing along with Chris’s weird playacting!”

3: “CLEARLY the trolls made him say these things! It’s so obvious a setup!”

4: “Goddamn troll manipulated poor Chris into fucking his own mother!”

5: “Chris... Fucked his mother.”
Bruh 💯.


also I’m gonna have a small whine here because the main thread moves so fast it triggers my timber’s.

What I am a little salty over is I remember posting that Barbs was frail and old with dementia a while back during one of Chris video updates and got neg rated with “she’s putting it on…don’t be had…she knows what’s she doing” but now in this saga those same people are tripping over themselves saying “OMG SHES SO OLD AND FRAIL THE POOR THING SHE HAS DEMENTIA SHE CANT EVEN CONSENT TO A HAM SAMMICH”
 
Yer he is showing a very conniving side of him I didn’t think possible


Bruh 💯.


also I’m gonna have a small whine here because the main thread moves so fast it triggers my timber’s.

What I am a little salty over is I remember posting that Barbs was frail and old with dementia a while back during one of Chris video updates and got neg rated with “she’s putting it on…don’t be had…she knows what’s she doing” but now in this saga those same people are tripping over themselves saying “OMG SHES SO OLD AND FRAIL THE POOR THING SHE HAS DEMENTIA SHE CANT EVEN CONSENT TO A HAM SAMMICH”
Denial and ignorance are a dangerous combo
 
Who'd have thought Chris' love quest would end right where it started.

Make no mistake, I see a lot of people defending Chris and "b-but it was the evil trolls that poisoned Chris' mind!". Every big, illegal action from Chris has always been something of his own designs. Being a master creep to Megan, trying to run that guy over, macing a poor game shop employee...that was all a genuine Chris Original©. The stuff the trolls make him do are small potatoes that were never really all that entertaining, the whole "Chris is gullible and will believe everything" schtick was never really more than curiosities.
 
Who'd have thought Chris' love quest would end right where it started.

Make no mistake, I see a lot of people defending Chris and "b-but it was the evil trolls that poisoned Chris' mind!". Every big, illegal action from Chris has always been something of his own designs. Being a master creep to Megan, trying to run that guy over, macing a poor game shop employee...that was all a genuine Chris Original©. The stuff the trolls make him do are small potatoes that were never really all that entertaining, the whole "Chris is gullible and will believe everything" schtick was never really more than curiosities.
People pointing out the possibility of an external influence on chris doesn't mean they're defending him or saying he's innocent. He could have listened to whatever inner voice made him not flat out admit it to null but scoot around it and just not fucking do it in the first place, but still chose to do it. The "fellow dieties" and "guidance" shit lines up with other times chris has been manipulated into doing fucked up shit but this is extremely more severe and monstrous. Chris isn't a fucking evil machevellian mastermind. He's a fucking dense horny idiot NEET that had a sheltered childhood upbringing, and is currently doing shit like claiming to be the CPU goddess of the commodore 64. The recent narrative of chris being this fucking god tier manipulator who's fucking his dementia addled mom with absolutely no room for provocation to do so is completely fucking stupid when you actually read the messages or have been watching chris for a while now. He's guilty as hell but the shit people have been posting in this fucking thread like this feels like those documentaries that overanalyze yet also oversimplify shit like a photo of hitler getting a present from 2 santa clauses.
 
Going to be honest, the one thing that bothers me is that book/instruction manual. Chris claimed it came from Amazon and him ordering it to prep for this it's some of the darkest premeditated shit ever.

That book looks like the kind of shit a therapist "assigns" you or something. It doesn't even look like something that would draw Chris's attention as opposed to one of the similar yet less clinical ones that are out there. It just doesn't look like something Chris would choose on his own and something about it is bothering me.
 
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People pointing out the possibility of an external influence on chris doesn't mean they're defending him or saying he's innocent. He could have listened to whatever inner voice made him not flat out admit it to null but scoot around it and just not fucking do it in the first place, but still chose to do it. The "fellow dieties" and "guidance" shit lines up with other times chris has been manipulated into doing fucked up shit but this is extremely more severe and monstrous. Chris isn't a fucking evil machevellian mastermind. He's a fucking dense horny idiot NEET that had a sheltered childhood upbringing, and is currently doing shit like claiming to be the CPU goddess of the commodore 64. The recent narrative of chris being this fucking god tier manipulator who's fucking his dementia addled mom with absolutely no room for provocation to do so is completely fucking stupid when you actually read the messages or have been watching chris for a while now. He's guilty as hell but the shit people have been posting in this fucking thread like this feels like those documentaries that overanalyze yet also oversimplify shit like a photo of hitler getting a present from 2 santa clauses.
Nah I don't mean people just pointing it out, I've already seen some people that paint it as if Christ was a mere puppet of the kiwis/trolls and none of his actions were of his own volition.
That said, I don't think one needs to be a mastermind to do wrong. Media has been feeding us villains that are smart and suave, with a plan for everything and prepared for all, but in reality most "villains" are just petty crooks that do crime because doing the right thing is too much effort. And there's no need to manipulate an old hag when you are a hulking brute of a manwoman, just do it. What we have points at very very feeble and useless attempts at resistance.
The "I was better at finding her G-spot" detail and the attempts at playing coy with the secret are not something the trolls cooked for our amusement, it was a CWC Original©. There's nuance to those little details. Chris was proud at raping his 80% cadaver mother. And painting it as a happy relationship to celebrate.

Nothing the trolls can fabricate can be as fucked up as the things Chris has done on his own. This person needs professional help, it's out of our hands and in a way always was.
 
People pointing out the possibility of an external influence on chris doesn't mean they're defending him or saying he's innocent. He could have listened to whatever inner voice made him not flat out admit it to null but scoot around it and just not fucking do it in the first place, but still chose to do it. The "fellow dieties" and "guidance" shit lines up with other times chris has been manipulated into doing fucked up shit but this is extremely more severe and monstrous. Chris isn't a fucking evil machevellian mastermind. He's a fucking dense horny idiot NEET that had a sheltered childhood upbringing, and is currently doing shit like claiming to be the CPU goddess of the commodore 64. The recent narrative of chris being this fucking god tier manipulator who's fucking his dementia addled mom with absolutely no room for provocation to do so is completely fucking stupid when you actually read the messages or have been watching chris for a while now. He's guilty as hell but the shit people have been posting in this fucking thread like this feels like those documentaries that overanalyze yet also oversimplify shit like a photo of hitler getting a present from 2 santa clauses.

Most of the time when Chris is talking about “fellow deities and guidance” he’s talking about internal confirmation. (Like when his “dead aunt told him” it was ok to drive to Ohio.)

He sure as hell isnt talking about fellow autists calling themselves CPU Gods of Atari or whatever.

Based on Chris’s history of:

A: Borderline incest and inappropriate behavior with Barb, and

B: Getting “divine advice” from dreams and subconscious desires

I think it’s safe to say that troll involvement here was minimal.

Even if there was a conversation that went along the lines of:

Chris: “So, I’ve been thinking about fucking Barb!”

Troll: “Oh yeah? That’s a great idea, smash that puss bro!”

It’s not like it would have changed anything. Because guess what: Chris does what he wants to at the end of the day, no matter what people say. (Which is always the thing that have gotten him in serious trouble.)

Even if the troll had said: “That’s a terrible idea, what on earth is wrong with you?! Not only is it unethical it’s also illegal and could get you in serious trouble!” Chris would still have done it. He’d just make a mental note of not mentioning it again to that particular troll.
 
It’s not like it would have changed anything. Because guess what: Chris does what he wants to at the end of the day, no matter what people say. (Which is always the thing that have gotten him in serious trouble.)

Even if the troll had said: “That’s a terrible idea, what on earth is wrong with you?! Not only is it unethical it’s also illegal and could get you in serious trouble!” Chris would still have done it. He’d just make a mental note of not mentioning it again to that particular troll.
You put my point far more eloquently. It basically boils down to this, Chris does whatever Chris wants in the end.
 
Going to be honest, the one thing that bothers me is that book/instruction manual. Chris claimed it came from Amazon and him ordering it to prep for this it's some of the darkest premeditated shit ever.

That book looks like the kind of shit a therapist "assigns" you or something. It doesn't even look like something that would draw Chris's attention as opposed to one of the similar yet less clinical ones that are out there. It just doesn't look like something Chris would choose on his own and something about it is bothering me.

You know what it looks like?

It looks like something Chris would have ordered after his mother cried out in pain the first time he stuck in bent duck in there.

When Chris has made a decision to pursue a particular goal, he’s on that shit like a bloodhound sniffing a wounded rabbit.

Once Chris decided he’s going to fuck Barb, no amount of practical issues would have stopped him.

Chris always has a true autists faith in manuals and guidebooks though. So what would be Chris’s immediate and instinctual reaction to “Ouch! That hurts Christine!”?

You know it and I know it... Ordering a book that would teach him how to overcome this temporary obstacle to Barbs snatch.


What’s bothering you isn’t that it’s some kind of clue. What’s bothering you is the same thing that would bother anyone with a shred of decency: The calculated, autistic coldness of his actions.


You put my point far more eloquently. It basically boils down to this, Chris does whatever Chris wants in the end.

And worth pointing out: It’s always what gets Chris in trouble.

If Chris’s life was a carnival, trolls were always just sideshow attractions. The really big events that makes it what it is, is 100% Chris.
 
Going to be honest, the one thing that bothers me is that book/instruction manual. Chris claimed it came from Amazon and hid ordering it to prep for this it's some of the darkest premeditated shit ever.

But that book looks like the kind of shit a therapist "assigns" you or something. It doesn't even look like something that would draw Chris's attention as opposed to one of the similar yet less clinical ones that are out there. It just doesn't look like something Chris would choose on his own and something about it is bothering me.
It really reeks of "someone told him to get it" Shits the most generic colorless and corporate looking thing, not something chris would seek out given his history.
Most of the time when Chris is talking about “fellow deities and guidance” he’s talking about internal confirmation. (Like when his “dead aunt told him” it was ok to drive to Ohio.)

He sure as hell isnt talking about fellow autists calling themselves CPU Gods of Atari or whatever.

Based on Chris’s history of:

A: Borderline incest and inappropriate behavior with Barb, and

B: Getting “divine advice” from dreams and subconscious desires

I think it’s safe to say that troll involvement here was minimal.

Even if there was a conversation that went along the lines of:

Chris: “So, I’ve been thinking about fucking Barb!”

Troll: “Oh yeah? That’s a great idea, smash that puss bro!”

It’s not like it would have changed anything. Because guess what: Chris does what he wants to at the end of the day, no matter what people say. (Which is always the thing that have gotten him in serious trouble.)

Even if the troll had said: “That’s a terrible idea, what on earth is wrong with you?! Not only is it unethical it’s also illegal and could get you in serious trouble!” Chris would still have done it. He’d just make a mental note of not mentioning it again to that particular troll.
You need to understand the deity shit with chris currently isn't internal voice spiritual shit and is actually a weird LARP connected to a videogame. He actively went and got a book that looks like the kind of shit he'd never even touch without someone "guiding" him to it? Chris is still irrevocably corrupted whether it be by merely his delusions or the minor additonal nudging of whoever the "fellow deities" I could be remembering this wrong but before the vidya goddess character larp shit. He had a similar thing with the ideaguys where they were referred to as his "managers". Either way what he did is fucking horrible and no amount of external influence makes him any less guilty.

Nah I don't mean people just pointing it out, I've already seen some people that paint it as if Christ was a mere puppet of the kiwis/trolls and none of his actions were of his own volition.
That said, I don't think one needs to be a mastermind to do wrong. Media has been feeding us villains that are smart and suave, with a plan for everything and prepared for all, but in reality most "villains" are just petty crooks that do crime because doing the right thing is too much effort. And there's no need to manipulate an old hag when you are a hulking brute of a manwoman, just do it. What we have points at very very feeble and useless attempts at resistance.
The "I was better at finding her G-spot" detail and the attempts at playing coy with the secret are not something the trolls cooked for our amusement, it was a CWC Original©. There's nuance to those little details. Chris was proud at raping his 80% cadaver mother. And painting it as a happy relationship to celebrate.

Nothing the trolls can fabricate can be as fucked up as the things Chris has done on his own. This person needs professional help, it's out of our hands and in a way always was.
Yeah crooks can absolutely be dumb as bricks but chris is a weird case where he's not entirely dumb and has a warped as hell sense of morality. It feels less like a puppeteering and more like a nudge or 2 that spiraled into what it is now situation wise, kind of in the same way a lot of other chris happenings were caused by a similar kind of thing.
 
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