[THREAD RETIRED] Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people - Original thread. Historical purposes only. Not updated. Refer to forum for current info/discussion.

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thats a good point ive heard the 4 hour phone call full version cited but where is the evidence of that? and i agree if shed said "what the fuck! you fucked your mother whats wrong with you!!!" chris might have said "oh well I was just joking hahahahaha" or hung up. she had to pretend like it was normal and the ultimate evidence that she didnt support that was tipping off the cops/internet. with that said i think that there is SOMETHING kelly isn't telling us. maybe the evidence has been destroyed and well never know. the only person besides her troll op who'd know would be chris who isnt exactly a reliable narrator. maybe kelly and her people DID put the "bang your mom" idea in his head. maybe the op was to "take chris down" idk or they were trying to set chris up with a hooker or a tranny. I will wait till i have more evidence before i cast judgement on kelly. I am glad she leaked this info regardless wheather it was for damage control or moral reasons.

she knew about it for a good while (a couple of weeks if not a month) and decided to sit on the info for the sake of internet clout while gathering more for updoots rather than inform the relevant authorities that a man was raping his senile mother every three days

she could've done something to stop it and didn't for the sake of clicks. this is why this person is a grade a twat

EDIT: info has come to light that fiona sat on it for maybe 24-48 hours, not an entire month. that's still too fucking long though and the above doesn't really change
 
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she knew about it for a good while (a couple of weeks if not a month) and decided to sit on the info for the sake of internet clout while gathering more for updoots rather than inform the relevant authorities that a man was raping his senile mother every three days

she could've done something to stop it and didn't for the sake of clicks. this is why this person is a grade a twat
So we know for sure the phone call was several weeks old?

Yes. Kelly please. You honestly cannot make things worse for yourself than they are at least in terms of the Internet's Eye of Sauron landing directly on you. You are extremely lucky that your dox dropped right before Chris's arrest which is going to take the attention off you for a while. You have the opportunity to explain. Do not waste it.
If she doesn't explain herself everyone will forever assume she and her boyfriend groomed Chris.
 
So we know for sure the phone call was several weeks old?
we know that this person had both proof in the form of texts and proof in the form of a phone call. my theory is that they got the text proof first and then waited until he inevitably revealed it vocally as text proof isn't as bulletproof as the retard saying it himself. the whole thing could've been brushed off as a shop otherwise, and nearly was even with vocal proof. if it wasn't for chris coming out and admitting it himself there would still be doubt even

either way, they had to obtain either the message leaks first or the phone leaks first. i doubt that they got both of them within the space of an hour. they were clearly milking him for more information
 
Even if someone told Chris to do it or encouraged it, and even though he is autistic, he knew it was wrong. If he thought it was okay and "spiritual", he wouldn't have tried to keep it hidden.

He would have just come out and told Null it was his mother and not some other woman. He probably would have even posted about how he found a new girlfriend and it she was in his own backyard his whole life. Hopefully if his lawyers try and say he was influenced and didn't know any better, the prosecution will call bullshit.
 
Love to see it, good work to all involved. Feel like there's something fundamentally wrong but it isn't my place to say much else; just that attention seeking in such a matter makes it abundantly clear combined with Kelly's "interests".

Wondering as a result of identifying "Bella" if any other information is just lost to time now? Which would be a shame, there's still a ton of questions, an AMA would be great but is likely unrealistic.. But if they hope for any change in general opinion that's the only chance they've probably got. Despite apparently having experience with technology she and whoever seemed totally inept at sharing media, recording it, archiving, or doing pretty much anything adjacent. Even just screenshots looked like dogshit. So what other options are there for them that would be easily accessible and believable (that it came from them)?
 
Even if someone told Chris to do it or encouraged it, and even though he is autistic, he knew it was wrong. If he thought it was okay and "spiritual", he wouldn't have tried to keep it hidden.

He would have just come out and told Null it was his mother and not some other woman. He probably would have even posted about how he found a new girlfriend and it she was in his own backyard his whole life. Hopefully if his lawyers try and say he was influenced and didn't know any better, the prosecution will call bullshit.

the important thing to remember is that nobody is saying that chris has no culpability here. i don't think anyone is claiming influence. the man raped his own senile mother and he should face time for that and all the vindication in the world to boot.

however, this kelly person groomed this guy for more information WHILE he was fucking his own mother instead of getting in contact with someone responsible when she had a full hand of evidence already. it was a case of pushing for more and more 'luls' when the luls in question was a man fucking his own mother every three days

this person willingly milked chris while he raped his own mother for the sake of e-fame. chris is the rapist, kelly is the person who basically took pictures of it while giggling so that she could brag on the internet about how she was the one who caught a fat fuck banging his own mom. if you can't see that there's a problem with kelly's behavior then fair enough i guess but i think a lot of people would disagree with you
 
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So nothing released now shows that she put this idea in Chris' head, right?

Obviously, she was supportive on the phone call, but she leaked it. So couldn't she have just been getting close to Chris for the lul's and then when the incest stuff came to light she documented what she could and then told the authorities?

Or did I miss something?
why has everyone jumped to conclusions that she coerced Chris into doing this? he's been saying he's had dreams of doing it + that he was attracted to her/old ladies in general before. i'm not excusing it, but i think she played along in the audio to get him to fully admit it on tape. without her no one would know he was abusing Barb, or am i missing something?

What you're missing is that the phone call was recorded at 12 AM on Wed Julay 28 - that early morning. The phone call was allegedly 4 hours - so that'd be starting about 8 PM on Tues Julay 27 - the night before. The texts, which refer to a past conversation on the subject of his motherfucking, took place between 10-11 PM on Wed Julay 28 - later that night.

So best case scenario, Kelly only found out about the incest during the 4-hour phone call and is only familiar with the situation at the beginning of the recorded part because he brought it up earlier in the unrecorded part of the call.

This means that, again best case scenario, she not only encouraged him but she also sat on this information for over 24 hours while he escalated to even more extensive sexual assault. Knowing that he rapes her every 3 nights.

EDIT2: correction, she sat on it until FRIDAY, having found out TUESDAY.

And then when she did leak her conversations, she didn't take it to the police or social workers. She took it to fucking reddit for subforum asspats and clout. Redditors then contacted the police.

She deserves to be doxed for (1) being stupid, (2) being a horrible person, (3) so the police can interview her to build a case against chris and establish the veracity of the screenshots for the prosecution.

EDIT1: corrected to TX timezone
 
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I'm in two minds about Kelly and her accomplices.

On one hand, they've shone a light on Chris's depravity and alleged criminal actions, which need to be dealt with via due legal process. On the other hand, their methods to extract evidence relating to Chris's depravity appear to be downright scummy.

I'm not a lawyer, but could Kelly's alleged actions be seen as incitement to commit a crime? Idk what the charge is under Virginia law (accessory?), and idk if the fact Kelly being in Texas will have an impact i.e. would she be charged and tried under Texas law, or would she be extradited to Virginia? Although I suspect the latter is unlikely given that she is allegedly an accessory rather than a perpetrator.

*I might not be a lawyer, but I have enough awareness to know that it's all "alleged" until the suspect is sentenced by a court of law

Look at this stuff from the transcript

I'll be there, I'll be there watching you guys

I'll take photos of you two
There's a difference between being saying "I'll be watching you guys" and "I'd love to watch you guys". I'm not sure if the former counts as incitement. Maybe tacit incitement at best (if such a thing exists).
 
Anyone got a quick rundown on how involved these people were with Chris porking his mom?

There is a big difference between "encouraging Chris to rape his mother" and "tricking Chris in to admitting it."

Yeah that’s the thing. There isn’t one.

You’re just seeing the last gasps of: “Surely our sweet OPL wouldn’t rape his senile mother! He must have been tricked into it by random internet people!”

He did it folks. Deal with it. Nobody “tricked him”, nobody “manipulated him”, nobody “talked him into it”. Going balls deep into his 80 year old senile mother was 100% Chris.

Nobody did anything except taping him bragging about it.
 
If I was Kelly I would come here, do an AMA and explain what I was doing. If she was innocently trying to befriend him and didn't encourage him to rape his mom, nobody will be angry.
If Kelly is uncomfortable with doing an AMA here, maybe an AMA on Rackets' livestream. Assuming ofc that this doesn't have the potential to prejudice any legal proceedings that may result from this whole shitshow. That's where Rackets would come in handy, as he'd be able to tell whether or not such an AMA is wise at this time.
 
And then when she did leak her conversations, she didn't take it to the police or social workers. She took it to fucking reddit for subforum asspats and clout. Redditors then contacted the police.

That’s a lot of assumptions, but we don’t really know this, now do we?

In fact we have no way of knowing whether she contacted authorities before leaking it.
 
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Yeah that’s the thing. There isn’t one.

You’re just seeing the last gasps of: “Surely our sweet OPL wouldn’t rape his senile mother! He must have been tricked into it by random internet people!”

He did it folks. Deal with it. Nobody “tricked him”, nobody “manipulated him”, nobody “talked him into it”. Going balls deep into his 80 year old senile mother was 100% Chris.

Nobody did anything except taping him bragging about it.
We don't know that for sure. He was groomed by trolls into doing plenty of stupid things like taking pictures in his mom's underwear and shoving his medallion up his butthole on camera.

@an0nym0us Give us your side of the story. How did you find out Chris raped his mother? Is it true there's a sex tape?
 
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