Lovequest Why are some people assuming trolls talked Chris into raping his mom?

[Kill a Troon for Pikamee]

1. Chris has been very open about his fetish for old people in general and his mom in specific, he was fantasizing about fucking barb probably even before these trolls were born

2. Forcing himself on someone isn't beyond him as well, we know of his complete disrespect for personal space with any female he was ever in contact with, he's also narcissistic and believes to be a beautiful goddess that people should be grateful to have sex with, he also believes himself to be some stupid bullshit "empath" (barb was confused and said no, but chris sensed that deep down she really wants it), there was also the alleged video of chris punching barb that was never released, someone mentioned a punch hole in a drywall next to barb's bed in one video, and he also DRYHUMPED AND PUNCHED A PILLOW IN FRONT OF BARB PRETENDING THAT IT'S BARB. You don't have to be a Poirot or a Columbo to notice all the traces leading to the fact that Chris is a motherfucking rapist

3. In the full audio call, the female troll doesn't seem to know anything about it first, doesn't ask "so how did you do it?" but "who made the first move". The troll just pulls Chris's tongue to know the details but it all just seems like "oh wow this retard is fucking his mother let me make him talk more about it" and not "hahaha he actually fucked his mother like I told him to do". I really haven't hear there anything that would suggest otherwise

4. Finally, the fact that he told the female troll about it doesn't mean anything. He also told about it to Null, just made up story that he's fucking some other older women and not raping his demented 80 year old mother on her deathbed. But the very act of fucking he couldn't hide, he needed to brag about it. My theory is since the female troll was female Chris was more open and eventually spilled out that he's really fucking Barb. He probably would have spilled it out to someone else eventually

I rest my case; I may be wrong but in my opinion there is nothing pointing to the "trolls made him do it" theory. Chris raped his mom because he really wanted to and he thought he's entitled to do it because he is a beautiful goddess which never did anything wrong

 

[PsychoNerd054]

Nobody is really saying that "The trolls did it". What happened was at least 90% Chris's fault. What really went down is that Chris supposedly had these feelings for Barb for several years, and seemingly snapped out of nowhere. Even when the supposed enablers knew about all of this, they denied telling anyone about it for the month he was banging Barb, or sometimes outright encouraged Chris to keep doing it, just so that they can have the bragging rights to leaking it.

 

[Spooky Bones]

In the full audio call

I agree with you that the full (15 minute) audio call sounds slightly less damning for Kelly Osborn a/k/a Bella. Still though on balance of evidence it totally sounds like they have been grooming him for this shit for a while. It is not even necessarily in the words they say it is just totally apparent from the sum total of the conversation, even how she inflects her voice when Chris is telling her about perverse shit: she sounds like someone encouraging a small child. It's fucked. Even if they didn't plant the seed in his head they watered it.

 

[BurningPewter]

non fan outside world wisdom says that "Chris has never done anything wrong/strange that the trolls didn't force him to do"

 

[Santiago_Nasar]

its not about being forced, but being told it's "okay" to do it.

 

[Queen Of The Harpies]

Nobody is really saying that "The trolls did it". What happened was at least 90% Chris's fault. What really went down is that Chris supposedly had these feelings for Barb for several years, and seemingly snapped out of nowhere. Even when the supposed enablers knew about all of this, they denied telling anyone about it for the month he was banging Barb, or sometimes outright encouraged Chris to keep doing it, just so that they can have the bragging rights to leaking it.

I'm making the popcorn for the trial already.

The weens/trolls/enablers should be held to some accountability. At the end of the day, Chris was in charge of himself, but knowing his past and getting a sense of his mindset revels that he is very impressionable.

 

[PsychoNerd054]

I'm making the popcorn for the trial already.

The weens/trolls/enablers should be held to some accountability. At the end of the day, Chris was in charge of himself, but knowing his past and getting a sense of his mindset revels that he is very impressionable.

This was most certainly an incident where that impressionability finally blew up in his face. It all feels like a much darker version of SheCameForCWC, where Chris clearly didn't understand the weight of his actions, or how he was being manipulated. The primary difference is that he was actually raping someone due to pent up sexual frustration.

 

[Fapcop]

I'm making the popcorn for the trial already.

The weens/trolls/enablers should be held to some accountability. At the end of the day, Chris was in charge of himself, but knowing his past and getting a sense of his mindset revels that he is very impressionable.

And what accountability is that exactly?

Is there some sort of incest Good Samaritan Law I’m not aware of?

Besides, from the leaks it’s obvious that whatever they knew, they knew after the nasty had already been done.

I highly doubt that Chris asked them “Should I fuck my decrepid mother?” Or flew any test balloons indistinguishable from his usual autistic stream of consciousness babble.

The fact is that Chris does what he wants.

When he makes up his mind, you can’t change it. And nothing they could have said (had they really known beforehand) would have made Chris change his mind.

Unfortunately, in this case he wanted to fuck Barb. So he did.

non fan outside world wisdom says that "Chris has never done anything wrong/strange that the trolls didn't force him to do"

Are you kidding me? Yeah, trolls made Chris do some weird shit, but all of the really big WTFs, from attempted vehicular manslaughter, to macing innocent GameStop employees, stalking Megan, numerous other runins with authorities to hiring a prostitute were all 100% Chris with little to zero troll influence.

Chris is totally capable of coming up with something as fucked up as incest on his own, and have referenced it himself unprompted plenty of times.

Now what did trolls know and when? We can’t really be sure, but we know that Chris was wily enough to humblebrag to Null about having sex without outright admitting it was Barb.

It’s entirely possible he did something similar with the trolls at first.

Or fired off some trial balloons like “Hmm yeah, Magichan has sex with Barb again last night!”

It’s entirely possible that they didn’t KNOWINGLY sit on the info for weeks, but just had trouble seperating signal from noise so to speak, for a good while.

 

[Queen Of The Harpies]

And what accountability is that exactly?

Is there some sort of incest Good Samaritan Law I’m not aware of?

Besides, from the leaks it’s obvious that whatever they knew, they knew after the nasty had already been done.

I highly doubt that Chris asked them “Should I fuck my decrepid mother?” Or flew any test balloons indistinguishable from his usual autistic stream of consciousness babble.

The fact is that Chris does what he wants.

When he makes up his mind, you can’t change it. And nothing they could have said (had they really known beforehand) would have made Chris change his mind.

Unfortunately, in this case he wanted to fuck Barb. So he did.

I'm not suggesting the trolls made him do it. It wasn't a secret that he had feeling for Barb. I'm just suggesting a bit of encouragement and agreement from someone else was all he needed to cross that line. A defense lawyer could possible make that argument and if they dig deep enough they might find something like that.

Sorry for playing Devil's advocate. The worst that the trolls have ever done was get him to fuck a blow up doll on camera.

We all know that Chris lacks that sense of remorse or consequence.

 

[pedoguyguykrai]

And what accountability is that exactly?

Is there some sort of incest Good Samaritan Law I’m not aware of?

Besides, from the leaks it’s obvious that whatever they knew, they knew after the nasty had already been done.

I highly doubt that Chris asked them “Should I fuck my decrepid mother?” Or flew any test balloons indistinguishable from his usual autistic stream of consciousness babble.

The fact is that Chris does what he wants.

When he makes up his mind, you can’t change it. And nothing they could have said (had they really known beforehand) would have made Chris change his mind.

Unfortunately, in this case he wanted to fuck Barb. So he did.

Even if there is no good samaritan law, technically they knew he was raping a dementia patient, they should've reported it; if they reported it immediately as soon as they heard it from christians mouth he was raping his mom, then I wouldn't care if they leaked the convos after for bragging rights, you don't need bait christian for a month just to get content, he spills it over himself, and unlike blue spike where the only harm was cwc and that alone, they sat there and listened to him recant the details of him raping his mom for lulz, thats fucked up, and it could've been equally impactful had they immediately reported it to the authorities and then leaked it after for everyone else to laught at. I am not saying barb is a saint, but elder abuse is fucked up and should be discoraged and reported, not enabled, its bad enough that you can get raped in a institution, and chris raping his own mom is just even worse because on top of being her son that she coddled and bailed his out for years, she was solely left to his mercy, given her mental state. this is some sick twisted sadistic enjoyment that should've been nipped in the bud as soon as the revelation came to light he was raping mom, instead of indulged for more content, when the first admittance would've beeen impactful enough.

 

[Dona Morte]

Even if there is no good samaritan law, technically they knew he was raping a dementia patient, they should've reported it; if they reported it immediately as soon as they heard it from christians mouth he was raping his mom, then I wouldn't care if they leaked the convos after for bragging rights, you don't need bait christian for a month just to get content, he spills it over himself, and unlike blue spike where the only harm was cwc and that alone, they sat there and listened to him recant the details of him raping his mom for lulz, thats fucked up, and it could've been equally impactful had they immediately reported it to the authorities and then leaked it after for everyone else to laught at. I am not saying barb is a saint, but elder abuse is fucked up and should be discoraged and reported, not enabled, its bad enough that you can get raped in a institution, and chris raping his own mom is just even worse because on top of being her son that she coddled and bailed his out for years, she was solely left to his mercy, given her mental state. this is some sick twisted sadistic enjoyment that should've been nipped in the bud as soon as the revelation came to light he was raping mom, instead of indulged for more content, when the first admittance would've beeen impactful enough.

I think there is ABSOLUTELY vigilantism/ internet clout chasing here.
Hell it's a step away from what Ralph did today.
Sperm lasts for up to 5 days. That or there was enough trauma down there the evidence was sure enough.
The next step is mental evaluation.

 

[Bad Take Crucifier]

Because they want to believe CWC is an innocent victim and not an incel troon/rapist.

 

[pedoguyguykrai]

I think there is ABSOLUTELY vigilantism/ internet clout chasing here.
Hell it's a step away from what Ralph did today.
Sperm lasts for up to 5 days. That or there was enough trauma down there the evidence was sure enough.
The next step is mental evaluation.

yeah well true and lack of normal common sense, or denceny, if someone on the internet I was talking too, even if I was milking them for lulz, and they told me that the were fucking their 80 year old dementia ridden mother, or some equally vulnerable family member, or shit even a stranger I would stop talking and call the police. Not indulge in a blue spike 2.0 type larp and milk it for all its worth, when it comes to sex crimes on the internet, unlike normal snitching, you can if a prosecutor is zealous enough get some sort of charge tacked on. If the prosecutor is looking to set an example for this tom foolery the person who has been engaging in the shit could be charged with being an accessory for encouraging it. The only good thing is if Barb is a dementia patient, that means she might not even remember the numerous violations by her son, and will probably be put in an institution away from chris. My mom is dead, but if I had a brother who was like chris and stupid enough to leave my ailing mom in his care, and they did this, i'd be going to jail for murder, and my brother would be in the morgue. No remorse. Shit this leak has gotten me mati, granted I understand Barb was difficult to deal with in her life, still leaving her in chris's care was asking for disaster, if this didn't happen then the way barb looked surely screams neglect to me. They could've take control of her finances and put her in a home, they didn't need to be hands on with her end of life care, and I don't expect a person to care for an elderly person especially if they were emotionally abusive, but surely a elderly home would've been a better option than leaving her with her delusional son.

 

[lanceisbestweapon95]

TL;DR Chris has a history of being manipulated by Trolls into stuffing his foot in his own mouth, and for the longest time, his public image was of an eccentric weirdo loser that's creepy but ultimately harmless, so people are having a hard time accepting that he could do something so evil.

 

[Corpun]

Twitter users probably assuming he is an innocent transwomxn abused and manipulated by trolls.

The real horror is he is cleared of all incest accusations and moved back in with Barb to continue raping her.

 

[Pringles Can]

In the past trolls have talked chris into doing many stupid things. Like shoving his medallion up his ass, giving away money, posting really stupid shit ect. So I can see trolls talking chris into fucking his mom. Doesn't excuse what he did, as at the end of the day he should have known better then to diddle his own mother. But I can see trolls giving him that final push by making chris feel like what he wanted to do was normal, and enabling him. Even if that is the case tho its still chris' fault for everything to do with his mom. Chris knows right from wrong. Thats why he told null about the fake girlfriend.

 

[tehpope]

Remember, a decade plus ago in an irc chat, he suggested that trolls tell him to force himself onto Rocky.

Notably disturbing are 2 instances where "Bill" tries to persuade the trolls that compelling "Chris" to rape his pastoral counselor Rocky would be the perfect way to troll him. While there's a 0.001% possibility that Chris was particularly clever and tried to set a trap for the trolls by having trolls plan to rape Rocky, then notify the authorities, it is still 99.999% likely that he wanted to lose his virginity and wanted the trolls to give him a good excuse to come onto her.

Because they want to believe CWC is an innocent victim and not an incel troon/rapist.

 

[Caped Baldman]

Because they're retarded.

 

[Pickle Inspector]

Consider this, here’s part of Null’s conversion with Chris:

Well, I’ve met her a while ago, and was not fully aware at the time. And my ally deities guided me to seek her out and make things go further with great effort. We have talked off and on during the time in person. Behind a considerable camouflage, she was, but she was honest in her emotions. And she wanted to be with me as well; mutual feelings on good rapport. This relationship has been, from the start, offline and in-person, I assure you.

What if the highlighted section refers to Kelly and the other trolls who were pretending to be deities and manipulated him into initiating sex with his mom?

Not proof but it’d make sense that Chris would still talk to her after the leak and why Chris is looking so calm and sure that merge is about to happen.

 

[McSneaks]

its not about being forced, but being told it's "okay" to do it.

He proved he knows he wasn't? He basically completely described his mom and the relationship to null but said "I can't tell you who you have to figure it out"

And in the texts to one of the trolls he said "I have a new relationship but I want to tell you about it in person, the government with the right tech can read my texts and calls"

Sure seems like he knew it was "ok" huh?