Chris has been arrested

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A public defender will give a damn about their client if their client is actually 100% innocent, and likeable. There was that one lawyer on Joe Rogan's podcast that broke down that the Lawyers make it about themselves, the lawyer feels they're actually saving client (as was with the latino the lawyer on Joe's podcast did) from certain death (the judge was trying to give the guy the death penalty).

I think Chris is a coin toss. His crime is fucking horrid, but we don't know how it'll come across to a third party lawyer

Most public defenders are members of the academic professional outrage class or simply self-righteous crusaders. They're usually recent law school grads who are self-inflated enough to be unable to tamp the desire to "do good" so they can browbeat people in their social circles.

Chris certainly ticks some of the oppression olympics boxes, but his particular "-isms" aren't really in fashion. If he were a mentally stunted trans *black* womxn, perhaps...

There is just simply not enough time to unravel the thread on someone who has put down in words and voice that they committed precisely the thing they are charged with. Quitting a case on a plea for your client is not the same as quitting.
 
Insanity in terms of a legal standard, and insanity as you are defining it here and how we usually use it in everyday parlance are entirely separate.
I disagree with the highlighted portion. I'm not saying they'll take one look at Chris, call him a loony and toss him in the nuthouse. I stated clearly that insanity as it pertains to the insanity "defense" refers to a defendant's ability to understand the nature and consequences of their crime. That's slightly colloquialized but basically the text of the existing case law at least as it pertains to insanity as a defense in trial (competence to stand/plead probably being a nonissue here). This may include an inability to understand the morality of the act, which Chris at least doesn't seem to, or having committed the act due to a compulsion (probably inapplicable) or delusion. Delusion is definitely on the table as an argument even if I grant you it isn't evident.

Extraordinarily unlikely, granted, but I've literally seen a guy get institutionalized over a hit-and-run purely on the "failure to understand morality" test. I'm not saying it's a slam dunk, I'm saying you niggers repeating the latest deboonk about how the insanity defence doesn't work are full of shit.
 
TMI and very gay, but you're right about the public at large dismissing public defenders as incompetents, when they arw actually good at their jobs. Unless you are dead to rights guilty, or completely fucking retarded (like Chris) a public defender will probably be better for the average Joe in the long run. They are going to have one motherfucker of a time with Chris though, no pun intended....
I'd imagine Chris would be a nightmare case for an attorney, mostly because he wouldn't be able to shut up. It's going to be a nightmare for everyone involved.
 
Maybe it's because he's considered her guardian after she was deemed senile in the evaluation?
No, it's making too much of the "description" field for whatever obscure records keeping software the government is using.

I guarantee you the software has a clunky selection system which goes off law section and brief description or something like that when creating records, probably searchable, and the brief description is not legally binding, just a brief description for the benefit of those creating and processing the records.

I'd guess the methodology is "describe law in 6-8 words" so try condensing the "incest" statute's subsection in that many words, bonus points for easily searchable terms directly applicable to the law itself, and that's how you get that clunky wording.

There's only one section of the law I'm aware of which fits that brief description, https://law.lis.virginia.gov/vacode/18.2-366 , so that description should only apply to that section of the law.

So as others have said, there's not really anything to make of that specific wording in the records.
 
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I think it's optomisitc to assume Chris is being his usual sped self right now. My money is on reality actually sinking in this time and that he's curled up in a ball on his jail mattress trying to hide the fact he's crying.
Too bad he's crying for the wrong reasons.
He's crying because he lost all the Lego's and he overpaid for a motel where he won't get his money back.
 
I feel bad with whoever will be sharing their cell with Chris.

No one ever deserves being exposed to that amount of radioactivity in their life.
I know the Eighth Amendment says that you can not inflict cruel and unusual punishments. Pretty sure having to be next to chris and listen to him sperg out about MLP and the merge is pretty cruel and unusual to me
 
So what's the procedure for his no-bail arrest? He going to see the magistrate and get locked up in county before he get's his arraignment?
 
It's not uncommon for a public defender to put in some real effort. Your public defender keeps in contact with you and informs you of your options. You can even suggest things and they'll take it into account. I was wrongfully convicted of something once and my public defender was really good about it and went all out for me and saved my ass. There are good ones out there, it just depends entirely on who Chris pulls and whether or not he pisses them off/alienates them too much.
Similar story for me. I've had two public defenders that went way beyond for me and I was a deranged incel piece of shit. And another that didn't give a damn at all.

I could see Chris' public defender at least bother fighting for him because he's clearly kookoo nuts.
 
So what's the procedure for his no-bail arrest? He going to see the magistrate and get locked up in county before he get's his arraignment?
He'll probably be transferred to Greene County in the morning. May or may not face arraignment tomorrow. Probably Tuesday. Highly unlikely Greene Co holds him without bail.
 
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