Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Weird idea: France and other European countries are attempting to push through nationwide "Green Card" or vaccine passport programs in order to convince people to get the shot. Here in the US, free will is a big deal so maybe they're trying to take the vaccine resistant down one by one, via our various employment sectors to keep us from banding together in a concerted resistance.

First they mandated the vaccine for the hospital workers, but I didn't really care cause I'm not a hospital worker... Then the government workers... then the UC College Staff... then... well, I'm hearing more every day... https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/business/companies-vaccine-mandate/index.html

Or am I becoming a conspiracy theorist? I know we all agree that, for whatever reason, the push to vaccinate has been blown WAY out of proportion.
 
The US government is legally constrained from mandating vaccines, but the US government is also highly restrained from suppressing or controlling free speech and recently learned it can dodge those annoying constitutional rules if it merely enjoins private actors to do the dirty work for it. I suspect they're taking their new toy out for a spin with the vaccines.
 
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Not weird at all. Pretty much every iteration of social media, mainstream media and current culture is designed to stop people banding together in any form of resistance. What do you think the IDpol stuff is, the constant culture wars, the huge attack in any form of national pride is? it’s all to put people into tiny tribes so they won’t band together. An educated, armed and cohesive population is the single biggest threat to tyranny there is.
 
The latest scheme is to give vaxxed people discounts for kebabs, macdonalds, etc, and to also reward people with discounts to events for eating healthy/exercising - which makes this whole “it’s about health” be a bit questionable. Tackle obesity with the health scheme to prevent obesity, encourage obesity with the maccies discounts for the vaxxd. I found out my neighbours have been giving out the ‘Light paper’ (some anti lockdown thing i think) and going to the anti lockdown protests in the city. Wish we still had the optimistic rating but more people might be ‘waking up’ to the bullshit with all the government fuck ups and U turns
 
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Or am I becoming a conspiracy theorist? I know we all agree that, for whatever reason, the push to vaccinate has been blown WAY out of proportion.
I wondered the same question as well? Come to think of it, it's better be a conspiracy theorist than a sheep or a lemmings.

While we're at it, Styx might be one too when he bitchued about the vaccine passports, lol.
 
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Anyone in the USA dealing with the way public schools are handling things, whether it's Covid regulations or some other fuckery might want to look into homeschooling, even for a short time.
HSLDA has loads of info, start by researching the laws in your state and go from there.
 
Not weird at all. Pretty much every iteration of social media, mainstream media and current culture is designed to stop people banding together in any form of resistance. What do you think the IDpol stuff is, the constant culture wars, the huge attack in any form of national pride is? it’s all to put people into tiny tribes so they won’t band together. An educated, armed and cohesive population is the single biggest threat to tyranny there is.

And the Internet is one big weapon, for now, against such media.

Once again, the Biden regime is shown to be a bunch of incompetent fucks.




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Booster shots are almost definitely on the way. Meanwhile...

Officials set up a mobile center at a Missouri fair to boost vaccinations. No one showed up.

The St. Charles County Fair kicked off Tuesday at the Rotary Park in Wentzville, a St. Louis suburb. Attendees had the chance to get the Pfizer/BioNTech or Johnson & Johnson vaccine on Tuesday and Friday between 4 p.m. and 7 p.m., according to county health officials.


After spending two days at the fair, workers at the mobile vaccination site did not vaccinate a single person.

"It's disappointing," Nick Kohlberg of the St. Charles County Health Department told NBC affiliate KSDK of St. Louis.
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Booster shots are almost definitely on the way. Meanwhile...
The EU have announced that they're buying 2.1 billion Pfizer and Moderna vaccines in 2022. The population of the EU is 450 million. You're damned right they're planning booster shots.


Most people aren't getting vaccinated because they're frightened of Covid. Boomers and committed Branch Covidians sure, but the majority of people I know who've got the jab have done it so 'things will go back to normal'. In other words they want the lockdowns and the masks to go away.

They're bringing back the masks and lockdowns not because they're worried about muh Delta, they're bringing them back so more normies get the jab. They're fucking determined to get that shit into as many people as possible.
 
The Covid-app that we were free to install on out phones is not even used in my country. The gov is quite frustrated about that.
The app shows if you were ever in contact with a person who's had covid. Apparantly, not that many people care or are afraid of having their info out there?
I don't have the app either... I really don't give a hoot about it, but after my covid tests, I got bombed with email and texts to install the app to get my test result faster lol. I'm sure the gov is gonna pester us and give us "benefits" if we install the Big Covid ™️app.

recently, a electricity blackout in "Flanders Expo" happened (in Belgium) and 20.000 to 25.000 vaccines who were stocked in the freezers had to be investigated if they were still usable. The "FAGG" declared them ok for use. They said it was not sabotage.

^Not too happy about the booster shots because old people in the family had bad reactions to Pfizer as is.
 
recently, a electricity blackout in "Flanders Expo" happened (in Belgium) and 20.000 to 25.000 vaccines who were stocked in the freezers had to be investigated if they were still usable. The "FAGG" declared them ok for use. They said it was not sabotage.
Not a sabotage yeah....I sceptical like the sceptical third world kid featured in various memes. Talk about a coincidence or is it?

Meanwhile the Drudge report did this headline about the rise of corona-chan cases.
 
Not weird at all. Pretty much every iteration of social media, mainstream media and current culture is designed to stop people banding together in any form of resistance. What do you think the IDpol stuff is, the constant culture wars, the huge attack in any form of national pride is? it’s all to put people into tiny tribes so they won’t band together. An educated, armed and cohesive population is the single biggest threat to tyranny there is.

Otterly! :feels::feels::feels:

We missed you. Frankly, we were worried you'd been outed or something. You were always one of the most informative posters in this thread. It's good to have you back.

Or am I becoming a conspiracy theorist? I know we all agree that, for whatever reason, the push to vaccinate has been blown WAY out of proportion.
I alternate with a few different options but for me the most likely (but nothing more than that) is the Perfect Storm hypothesis. This is essentially that there is no single conspiratorial reason for the madness but that there are colliding factors that multiply each other:
  • Big Pharma companies like J&J, Pfizer and Moderna are making tens of billions on this. If they can push it into a scenario where their vaccines are doled out to entire and healthy populations annually or twice yearly, they basically have a tax on life. The leadership of these companies is entirely morally capable of doing that for the sake of profit. And they have horrifying amounts of influence.
  • Big statists in the EU and other countries regard introducing some sort of digital passport for domestic use as a good thing. The EU has published plans for introducing a vaccine passport and oddly enough their timelines pretty much follow what we've seen and come to an end in 2022. The State never turns down more control nor misses an opportunity to take it. If they can use this to make everyone have a "Mark of the Beast" required for normal life, they will.
  • Those in power cannot admit to a mistake on this scale. I mean that literally and without qualifiers. There is no circumstance in which state leaders and high level politicians will admit that massive lockdowns and billions given to Pharmacy companies was a mistake. I want to repeat that so it is absolutely clear and there's no mistaking it for hyperbole. They are not under any circumstances able to admit to a mistake of this size. This means that the vaccines must work. It doesn't matter if they don't, it doesn't matter if the middling protection they offer wears off in three months, it doesn't matter if they kill two people for every three they save. The vaccines must work because if life goes back to normal without it then our political leaders have destroyed economies, cost lives, wrecked children's education - out of an overreaction. I'm going to state this a third time because people will mentally add their own qualifiers to my statement and I don't want that. Literally anything that allows them to not admit an error of this size will be used if they have to including spending billions of our money year after year for the rest of our lives, if they have to. They will see you in prison for life rather than admit an error.
  • It destroys small businesses and private ownership transferring power and wealth to big companies and massive companies. Amazon has done very well out of the pandemic. So have companies like Blackrock. These companies are also possessed of a lot of political and media influence. It's naive to imagine that the leadership of companies like this isn't aware of how the situation benefits them nor were unaware how it would before all this began.
  • It was a lab leak and high level government officials have known this all along. This was the spark that kicked off the initial panic. Now whether or not the leak was deliberate or not, who knows? But they've known all along it was a leak and the spectre of some global bioweapon on the loose spooked them enough (not without reason) to react the way they did. But once they reacted that way, the above reasons all kicked in and the perfect storm happened.
It may also be that there is deliberate information warfare by hostile powers (e.g. China) to stoke the over-reaction by the West. So far as I can see, China locked down hard and visibly at the start - enough to make Western leaders go "oh shit!" and then declared it over in China and carried on with life as usual there. Yes, they have the sinovaccine but notably having provided information on the spike protein to the West to enable a rapid vaccine development based on that, their own vaccine is just a useless solution of dead copies of the virus. It does fuck all to protect you but it also has a pretty low-risk of actually hurting you. And it's relatively cheap as well. So if it keeps the narrative going and China actively wants Western rivals to cripple themselves over this economically (and maybe health-wise), you could pretty much call giving that vaccine to its citizens a bargain. Who knows on that one but there's means, motive and opportunity.

Anyway, that's the Perfect Storm explanation, more or less. The alternative to the Perfect Storm explanation, would be that there's something the leaders know about Covid-19 that we don't. Maybe it causes cumulative neurological damage from the spike protein getting into the brain. Maybe it harms fertility. Maybe it makes you grow a second head. I favour the Perfect Storm scenario but the idea that they're hiding how bad it really is from us is semi-plausible. I think we'd know if it were the case and the information wouldn't just be on weird Q-style information channels but from more reputable alarm-sounders. There was something along these lines a couple of weeks ago but to me, the Perfect Storm explanation remains the most likely. I mean, everything in there is more or less stuff we've seen and stuff we know. But... the other is at least possible. I think we'd see China behaving differently if that were the case, though.


Is the US a nanny state now?

Not for as long as the population remains armed.

recently, a electricity blackout in "Flanders Expo" happened (in Belgium) and 20.000 to 25.000 vaccines who were stocked in the freezers had to be investigated if they were still usable. The "FAGG" declared them ok for use. They said it was not sabotage.

Scenario A: "Someone fucked up with not having any measures in place to deal with a blackout and cost us €430,000. Now someone in power must lose their job."
Scenario B: "It's okay, the vaccines are fine."

Of course they're going to declare the vaccines still usable. And who knows, maybe they are?

^Not too happy about the booster shots because old people in the family had bad reactions to Pfizer as is.
I wouldn't want a booster shot. If the spike protein is in itself harmful, then repeated shots are going to lead to cumulative damage. Presumably they can't be forced to have it (yet).
 
They well never push the green pass here in USA. It is highly debatable if the vaccination rate even hits 60% at this point. Its not at 50% fully dosed and has slowed dramatically.

The participation in boosters will be abysmal

People seem to be catching on that the shots have failed to really do much of anything except add risk to the people taking them

I figure the threshhold for some sort of Vaccine Tyranny regime is going to be above 75%
 
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People seem to be catching on that the shots have failed to really do much of anything except add risk to the people taking them
Yes this is why their stupid plans of setting up vaccine clinics at festivals or fairs or concerts doesn't work. People are well aware of the side effects, why would they want to risk ruining their day out with their families? They could have immediate effects and be hospitalized, they could have cold and flu symptoms within a few hours, etc. There's no reason to take that chance on a beautiful day at the fair. I also don't get the whole "beer for jabs" thing - should you really be drinking alcohol after being given an experimental injection? Seems retarded.

Today my workplace has bombarded us with mask bullshit again. Hardly anyone is wearing one but there's signs everywhere saying it's "highly recommended" but not required. They are asking even vaxed people to participate. My manager also said unvaxed people need to wear a mask and show proof to take off the mask. Not one of my coworkers has shown proof of anything. 100% security theater
 
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