Wuhan Coronavirus: Megathread - Got too big

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Anybody know what the stats are on getting Covid again after having antibodies? All I can find on the internet is "We're not sure if antibodies fade".
I can possibly dig them for you if you want the raw source and not the quick summation.

But pretty much its really low. A study from somewhere in Northern Europe estimated that people over 55 have like a 47% chance of being reinfected (I forget the outcome), while people under 55 have a 20% chance of reinfection,
A study using the US Marine Corps as survey/sample estimated it like a 10% chance of reinfection (but was limited to a mostly younger demographic).
Both found the chances of being asymptomatic and/or mild increased the second time around.

A recent study came out this past May finding that if you have had it before, even assuming you aren't testing positive for antibodies, you still have increased ability to fight off the infection. (Probably because T-cells are a thing that exist, and B-cells can always just make more antibodies).
 
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is placing all bets on 80% vax rate for Aussies and NO MORE LOCKDOWNNN. But, the only vax in supply is astra zeneca which we were told NOT to have (pre-lockdown) if we were under 60, then 50 and now EVERYONE can have AZ. You get AZ. You get AZ and you up the back get AZ. We are very confused in Australia....currently sitting in lockdown again. Oh, and little kids were mainly the superspreaders this time. Interesting this Delta strain...

 
I'm betting on blue since the worst is going to be in blue states with the lockdowns, not red states. Even in blue cities in red states, there won't be much because people can just go to the county over where all the suburban Republicans live.
Counterpoint: The populations of blue states are complete and utter cucks who will put up with absolutely anything. Their riots lately have been over race, not over their overlords doing anything wrong.

Even people in red states are content with the way their governments are handling all this. As such, I'm betting on no riots.
 
Prime Minister Scott Morrison is placing all bets on 80% vax rate for Aussies and NO MORE LOCKDOWNNN. But, the only vax in supply is astra zeneca which we were told NOT to have (pre-lockdown) if we were under 60, then 50 and now EVERYONE can have AZ. You get AZ. You get AZ and you up the back get AZ. We are very confused in Australia....currently sitting in lockdown again. Oh, and little kids were mainly the superspreaders this time. Interesting this Delta strain...

They did the exact same thing in Ireland, we were told AZ and Janssen were unsafe for under 50s but then "the risk profile has changed" (to our political capital, not you personally) and made it available to everyone under 35 through pharmacies.

We were also told things would be opening up at 70% uptake which has already been surpassed with things still not open and they're still saying not to rule out another lockdown in the autumn/winter, so good luck with that 80%.
 
They did the exact same thing in Ireland, we were told AZ and Janssen were unsafe for under 50s but then "the risk profile has changed" (to our political capital, not you personally) and made it available to everyone under 35 through pharmacies.

We were also told things would be opening up at 70% uptake which has already been surpassed with things still not open and they're still saying not to rule out another lockdown in the autumn/winter, so good luck with that 80%.
I think they don't have any idea what to do and are clutching at straws? The panic by the government in aussie is palpable at the moment. Is this our new 'normal'? Will we ever return to life pre-covid? I'm not sure...masks, vax's and random lockdowns? 80% isn't even achievable here as there is not enough vax's to begin with lol. So many are scared of even having the jab because of mixed reports but what is the alternative. I heard in Scomo's public address today that people who have had the jab are not considered public health risks. So, does that mean if you haven't had the jab then you are now the new public health risk? That's a scary term with lots of connotations :(
 
Australians listen up!

Just found this on twitter https://twitter.com/GandBLawyers/status/1422141924882874372
Importantly, the High Court also indicated that the prohibition of civil conscription must be construed widely, to invalidate any law requiring medical practitioners (expressly or by practical compulsion) to work for the Commonwealth government or any Australian State. Simply put, no law in this country can compel any medical service on behalf of the Australian government.

As can be seen, section 51 (xxiiiA) maintains the prohibition of vaccination through any form of government-run health service, indicating that vaccination should only be through voluntary means in accordance with the free communications between medical doctor and patient, which is essential to achieve a high-quality healthcare.

To conclude: the Australian Constitution explicitly prohibits any form of legal compulsion upon the medical profession to carry out any form of medication, including vaccination. In fact, no government, either federal or state, can impose compulsory vaccination in this country, or prevent medical practitioners from remaining entirely free to choose whether or not to provide certain medical services, including vaccination.

There is debate as to how it is to be interpreted, that always happens, the point that Nathan Buckley from G&B Lawyers states, is to be aware of who the interpreters are working for, as he stated about George Williams, who states that 'Governments can mandate vaccination in employment etc by willing doctors', 'Mr Williams is a public servant...wouldn't be allowed to express views that go against the narrative.'


If anyone can do the threadreader unroll thing on the whole thread from the first link, I'd appreciate it, I keep getting that I've only selected one tweet.
 
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Australians listen up!

Just found this on twitter https://twitter.com/GandBLawyers/status/1422141924882874372


There is debate as to how it is to be interpreted, that always happens, the point that Nathan Buckley from G&B Lawyers states, is to be aware of who the interpreters are working for, as he stated about George Williams, who states that 'Governments can mandate vaccination in employment etc by willing doctors', 'Mr Williams is a public servant...wouldn't be allowed to express views that go against the narrative.'


If anyone can do the threadreader unroll thing on the whole thread from the first link, I'd appreciate it, I keep getting that I've only selected one tweet.
Interesting...the issue is that in Aussie, heavily policed and nanny states and society monitors itself more than those in charge. Aussie is very conservative at the end of the day - lots more boomers. As I said earlier - if you are tarnished with the 'public health risk' brush than most likely other people around you will make you feel the effects of being the odd-one out more than those in charge. Functionalism at it's best lol. My question is what does that mean in the grand scheme of things? is anarchy on the horizon...i hope so :D
 
Counterpoint: The populations of blue states are complete and utter cucks who will put up with absolutely anything. Their riots lately have been over race, not over their overlords doing anything wrong.

Even people in red states are content with the way their governments are handling all this. As such, I'm betting on no riots.
It's gonna be like Michigan in April 2020 all over again, everywhere, for your Mike DeWines or other RINO idiots, and probably in most blue states too. The right is PISSED now, look at the people being ejected from school board meetings because they protested critical race theory too hard, or hell, the St. Louis mask mandate thing the other week.
There may be as little as 2 weeks left of the "old normal" in more conservative and rural places, but hopefully we don't go into a repeat of early 2020 everywhere. I really do hope this "New Normal" bullshit ends everywhere someday.
I guarantee most rural county sheriffs won't enforce this nonsense. They barely enforced it the first time anyway and a lot of the economic damage was because people were genuinely scared. Not this time they aren't, not when I can hear the person who cuts my hair (since summer 2020, neither of us ever wore a mask) talking about how they think the vaccines are sketchy as hell with another client. I guarantee they're fucking pissed at the Democrats and Biden for their support of BLM, since obviously rural cops are full-on "Blue Lives Matter" types. They already told the governor to fuck off when he decreed "restrictions" around Christmas since they had better things to do than break up gatherings since they have their hands full with methheads, drunks, and dumbass crooks driving in from nearby cities.
 
There may be as little as 2 weeks left of the "old normal" in more conservative and rural places, but hopefully we don't go into a repeat of early 2020 everywhere. I really do hope this "New Normal" bullshit ends everywhere someday.


You're not the only one to see that.
There are "respected health experts", like Dr. Megan Ranney from Brown University, who are just flat out going on CNN and saying "never."

 
It's gonna be like Michigan in April 2020 all over again, everywhere, for your Mike DeWines or other RINO idiots, and probably in most blue states too.
Even if the red states don't go coronapanic again, the blue states going coronapanic could impact the red states economically.

There are "respected health experts", like Dr. Megan Ranney from Brown University, who are just flat out going on CNN and saying "never."
Imagine if someone said that before 2020 about the regular flu (which may be more lethal than the coof).

But in Mega Clown World 2020+, insanity is "The New Normal".

(I hope coronapanic goes away everywhere. Especially the muzzles. It's a very anti-human way to live.)
 
There are "respected health experts", like Dr. Megan Ranney from Brown University, who are just flat out going on CNN and saying "never."

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You just need to study the children in India, delta was running about since last November, also lmao at injection failure being blame on people rather than the injection.
Do these clown really believe because they renamed the variants that suddenly what it was before the renamed that it didn't happen?
 
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