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Bill Berry: Good pandemic advice from a doc: 'Avoid stupid people'​

By Bill Berry | state columnist
Aug 2, 2021
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STEVENS POINT – My longtime personal doctor doesn’t mince words.

When I turned 60, he told me, “Well, it’s all an experiment now.” Another time, after I had ignored some of his medical advice with predictably bad results, he scolded me, saying, “What, you think you’re the smartest guy in the room?”

So when I recently asked him for advice about what to do at this stage in the COVID-19 pandemic, his response was predictably direct: “Avoid stupid people.” It sounded like good advice to me, and I’d sort of been practicing it for the better part of a year. Now it looks like that will have to continue.

My doctor isn’t some lefty liberal. He’s a down-the-middle guy who happens to believe in vaccines for his patients, whether for COVID-19, shingles, flu or any of the other diseases that are at least somewhat abated by a shot. He definitely takes COVID-19 seriously, having witnessed some of its ravages. He expressed chagrin during the height of the pandemic that about a third of his patients thought it was a hoax. When I expressed concerns about having to attend gatherings with others who were ignoring public health advice, he said, “Stay away. Blame me. Doctor’s orders.”

As for the “stupid” comment, we’ve reached a point in this country where the term is fungible. Many of those on both sides of our deep political divides think the others are stupid. To be honest, the older I get, the more I realize how stupid, or at best uninformed, I am about many topics. One thing I do know: When it comes to personal health, it’s good to have a trusted doctor who can help you make good choices. On a basic level, if a person trusts his or her physician about other medical advice, why wouldn’t they follow doc’s advice about vaccinations? So maybe efforts to get health care providers to encourage their patients are working. Same goes for other trusted advisors, including religious leaders.

By some indicators, we are edging closer to where we should be on vaccinations. And in addition to doctors, some faith-based approaches may be working with the vaccine hesitant. A new survey from the Public Religion Research Institute found the decrease in hesitancy spans all religious and demographic groups. Fifteen percent of Americans reported being hesitant about getting the vaccine in June, a decline from 28% in March. A solid 13% said they will not be vaccinated, pretty much unchanged from the 14% who said the same in a March survey. This latter group will be the people who when infected end up in hospitals and dying in the coming months.

By some indicators, we are edging closer to where we should be on vaccinations. And in addition to doctors, some faith-based approaches may be working with the vaccine hesitant. A new survey from the Public Religion Research Institute found the decrease in hesitancy spans all religious and demographic groups. Fifteen percent of Americans reported being hesitant about getting the vaccine in June, a decline from 28% in March. A solid 13% said they will not be vaccinated, pretty much unchanged from the 14% who said the same in a March survey. This latter group will be the people who when infected end up in hospitals and dying in the coming months.

Among religious groups, vaccine acceptance has increased the most among Hispanic Catholics, from 56% in March to 80% in the most recent survey. PRRI said 79% of white Catholics also accept the COVID-19 vaccines, an 11-point increase. Vaccine hesitancy in virtually all religious cohorts has declined.

The survey also found that vaccine-hesitant people might be convinced to change their minds through various faith-based approaches, such as being encouraged by a religious leader or attending a forum on vaccination sponsored by their church. The sweet spot in this approach, according to the study, is when a health care professional from a trusted local religious community addresses a person’s concerns about vaccination. The highest percentage of respondents said that might change their minds.

Of course, there’s vaccine avoidance among some health care professionals, too, and unfortunately some religious leaders are steering their flocks away from vaccines. But if enough responsible health care providers and religious leaders do the right thing, maybe we can edge closer to where we need to be before variants are able to spread among the unvaccinated and threaten everyone, including those who are fully vaccinated.

In the meantime, I’m following doctor’s orders.
 
To be honest, the older I get, the more I realize how stupid, or at best uninformed, I am about many topics. One thing I do know: When it comes to personal health, it’s good to have a trusted doctor who can help you make good choices. On a basic level, if a person trusts his or her physician about other medical advice, why wouldn’t they follow doc’s advice about vaccinations
"Instead of informing myself, I put blind faith in someone I barely know."

This idea that you should just trust doctors is such a fucking absurd, soi ridden, intellectually lazy bullshit idea. I cannot express how much I hate it.

Doctors are not fucking gods. They are not infallable, they are not immune to mistakes or corruption, and they are not all competent. They are regular assholes with degrees. They are not special and we need to stop treating them like they're special. Why in the ever loving hell do doctors get worshipped like no other professional gets worshipped? Should lawyers, chefs, mechanics, engineers, etc get treated with such reverence? No, then why the fuck do you retards do it for doctors? For fucks sake, in most professions it's considered prudent to treat your peers as potential liabilities (see engineering standards formed after any major accident) so why not doctors?

Personally I've had my run in with quite a few retarded doctors, I would say outright the majority I've seen were either stupid or trying to shill me unnecessary treatment for profit. I have, on more than one occasion, had to research my symptoms myself and jump from doctor to doctor to find one who would actually acknowledge what I was saying instead of just immediately jumping to the default treatment or something extremely invasive. And believe it or not the majority of the time I was correct, and 100% of the time I was correct that the default generic treatment was not the solution.

God I hate these worms who are so eager to suck the turds out of every single authority figure. So eager to relinquish any self reliance or responsibility and just trust someone they just met cause they've got a degree. Fucking REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
 
When I turned 60, he told me, “Well, it’s all an experiment now.” Another time, after I had ignored some of his medical advice with predictably bad results, he scolded me, saying, “What, you think you’re the smartest guy in the room?”
Your doctor kind of sounds like an asshole, tbh
 
I saw a doctor over some things two weeks ago, and she spent more time on WebMD looking up things about my situation than really talking to me.
That sucks. Also, I tend to trust doctors more that can explain things without needing to lookup stuff. I understand the occasional thing, but that wouldn’t exactly inspire any confidence.
 
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I'm a very physical person, I train a lot, I get injuries several times per year.
I stopped trusting doctors after I've had my injury misdiagnosed by 3 medical "professionals".
The only reason I've managed to treat myself properly is because an old guy who I used to work with had the same injury 30 years ago and I looked up the treatment online.

Doctors have a degree from a university but that doesn't mean they know what they're doing.
Doctors used to prescribe cigarettes for stress and you were able to smoke in hospitals because some "experts" said that they're healthy.
There was no big movement of medical pros going against it until the lung cancer deaths increased dramatically.
Even if the vaccine is damaging to your health, doctors won't say anything until people start suffering in great numbers.

I trust doctors like dentists to an extent but the difference here is that I can get my money back or a free fix if they do a shitty job.
Here with the vaccine, if something happens to me, I can't go after anybody.
I'll get an allergic reaction or something and "Oops, guess you're out of luck, buddy".

I'll pass on the experimental drug and avoid people who tell me that I have to take it.
 
"Instead of informing myself, I put blind faith in someone I barely know."

This idea that you should just trust doctors is such a fucking absurd, soi ridden, intellectually lazy bullshit idea. I cannot express how much I hate it.

Doctors are not fucking gods. They are not infallable, they are not immune to mistakes or corruption, and they are not all competent. They are regular assholes with degrees. They are not special and we need to stop treating them like they're special. Why in the ever loving hell do doctors get worshipped like no other professional gets worshipped? Should lawyers, chefs, mechanics, engineers, etc get treated with such reverence? No, then why the fuck do you retards do it for doctors? For fucks sake, in most professions it's considered prudent to treat your peers as potential liabilities (see engineering standards formed after any major accident) so why not doctors?

Personally I've had my run in with quite a few retarded doctors, I would say outright the majority I've seen were either stupid or trying to shill me unnecessary treatment for profit. I have, on more than one occasion, had to research my symptoms myself and jump from doctor to doctor to find one who would actually acknowledge what I was saying instead of just immediately jumping to the default treatment or something extremely invasive. And believe it or not the majority of the time I was correct, and 100% of the time I was correct that the default generic treatment was not the solution.

God I hate these worms who are so eager to suck the turds out of every single authority figure. So eager to relinquish any self reliance or responsibility and just trust someone they just met cause they've got a degree. Fucking REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.
The time I've spent in the SRS thread has taught me more than I'd care to know about blindly trusting medicine.
 
If only, bet the writer's gonna go back to screaming in people's faces about the vax tomorrow
 
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