[THREAD RETIRED] Isabella Loretta Janke / Bella the Chris-Chan Incest Troll and her clique of extremely sick people - Original thread. Historical purposes only. Not updated. Refer to forum for current info/discussion.

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Narr Then said:
Someone posted a few days ago about emotional incest, and it really does fit. Obvs before the h'actual incest, but of course someone like Chris is going to obliterate that line.
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Emotional incest is more common than people realize , and definitely real and intensely damaging.
It's also harder to screen a potential therapist for it, because of a lack of research in this area.

A good speaker on this is Adena Bank Lees. I admire her work.
It was through my research with her on unrelated topics that I qualified an important thing: both emotional incest and incest can happen between any caregiver and ward or child, it's not heteronormative and limited to Oedipal/Elektra constructs by any means, it can be Homosexual.

That part is just for any of you curious about the work. Chris is a beta male obvs, I'm not implying anything other than that there.
Point is that there is a lot of invisibility and stigma

Child or ward becomes a surrogate spouse, sometimes forced to fill emotional role of spouse, with non-overt "icky" physical gestures.
There's more to it than this; but I'm Dudeist so I believe in the whole "brevity thing"

But I will say this; it's possible that culpability will fall on Chris as caregiver and Barb as ward...........
As long as Barb stays with the state now, as a ward, things are much better for her.
 
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Spooky Bones said:
I just had a very pleasant conversation for about 90 minutes with the poster who came on her self-identifying as "Bella," who has told me in some detail how ILJ and "Bella" are two different people. She offered to give me a voice recording and a photograph of a driver's license as proof. When asked to provide video proof so I could see that the face matched the driver's license and the voice matched the "Bella" recording, she sent me two videos, neither one showing her face. I let her know that I will no longer be speaking to her if she is going to be deceptive and waste my time. What she attempted to spin to me was the same narrative that she (and Louis, to some degree at least) have been spinning to GiBi and it puts the blame on Fiona, with the explanation that she leaked the video anonymously because "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" for her crush's mother. This is not unreasonable, however, texts from Fiona dating to after her finding out about the incest still showed that she wanted Chris, so it seems unlikely, and furthermore, the videos still very clearly were leaked from the "Kelly Osborn" account conclusively linked to ILJ, which "Bella" claims is a front for Fiona and is unable to explain the connections to Kelly/ILJ.

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Spooky Bones said:
I just had a very pleasant conversation for about 90 minutes with the poster who came on her self-identifying as "Bella," who has told me in some detail how ILJ and "Bella" are two different people. She offered to give me a voice recording and a photograph of a driver's license as proof. When asked to provide video proof so I could see that the face matched the driver's license and the voice matched the "Bella" recording, she sent me two videos, neither one showing her face. I let her know that I will no longer be speaking to her if she is going to be deceptive and waste my time. What she attempted to spin to me was the same narrative that she (and Louis, to some degree at least) have been spinning to GiBi and it puts the blame on Fiona, with the explanation that she leaked the video anonymously because "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" for her crush's mother. This is not unreasonable, however, texts from Fiona dating to after her finding out about the incest still showed that she wanted Chris, so it seems unlikely, and furthermore, the videos still very clearly were leaked from the "Kelly Osborn" account conclusively linked to ILJ, which "Bella" claims is a front for Fiona and is unable to explain the connections to Kelly/ILJ.

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So it's the same source pretending to be GiBi's and Fiona's friend, aka Bella?

Nice.
 
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msXselfdestruct said:
What I want to know is why is OP making it seem like Chris was influenced by Kelly(Whoever) when Chris admitted to doing it himself? Why are you fags trying to scapegoat for Chris so he walks Scott free?
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There is a thing called coercion and using manipulation to push someone into committing a criminal act falls under this.
Besides Isabella appears to be a zoosadist and for this alone she deserves a thread here.
 
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msXselfdestruct said:
I don't even know who Bella is or who op thinks it is. It's retarded. If I told you to rob a bank and you do that's on you. You're still going to jail for the bank robbery. He raped his mom, Bella or whoever the fuck didn't rape her. So why try and find her identity? You're just going to give the defense a reason to try and get Chris to walk free.
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You dont have to commit a crime to face social repercussions you fucking tard. Ever hear of the social contract? You don't tell the autistic caregiver of a senile bag of potatos who got tricked by a virgin doing falsetto that incest is okay. What the fuck do you think is going to happen?
 
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Spooky Bones said:
I heard you guys were freaking out because I went afk for 90 minutes

lol calm down
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Watching this thread has been so entertaining for so many reasons, including the above because even when nothing happens, people flip out.

I just hope the finalized OP includes Bella's posts on lolcow where she completely threw Louis under the bus to try and get attention off of her. Beautiful mix of desperation and sociopathy.
 
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msXselfdestruct said:
I don't even know who Bella is or who op thinks it is. It's retarded. If I told you to rob a bank and you do that's on you. You're still going to jail for the bank robbery. He raped his mom, Bella or whoever the fuck didn't rape her. So why try and find her identity? You're just going to give the defense a reason to try and get Chris to walk free.
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Chris is already detained and probably gave an officer a very lengthy explanation of everything and how he was a perfect lover that hit her G-spot better than Bob, and very considerate, an excellent gentleman...woman...thing. He checked himself for STDs before inserting his hooked duck into that sweet, sweet boyfriend-free china. And dementia means he can finally build his own sweetheart from the ground-up!. Poor officer.

This isn't a matter of kiwi opinions, it's a crime being processed. You said it, he raped his mother. Chris has an excellent record of causing his worst troubles himself. Bella is an asshole that might or might not have pushed it, but there's no question that it was Chris and his feminine penis who raped. You must understand Chris has burned a lot of sympathy this week. There are more people hoping Fiona-chan would notice them and give them china than people hoping they can bail out Chris.
 
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requisite0 said:
Not nothing. Gibi said he was presented with the same evidence, evidence that he was sure meant we were wrong.

This at least correlates that evidence with Gibi's so-called source.
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From what I gathered, this "source" isn't that credible to begin with, correct me if I'm wrong
 
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Spooky Bones said:
When asked to provide video proof so I could see that the face matched the driver's license and the voice matched the "Bella" recording, she sent me two videos, neither one showing her face.

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What a complete retard. Why would they be willing to give a license but not a face video?
Because they're full of shit.

Man she really thinks she's some kind of spook doesn't she? I wonder what kind of stories her mom and dad have told her, and what she has read. Because she's desperately trying FUD but is simply not competent enough to be fruitfully selective with her information.

e: Isabella Loretta Janke, you are marked for life. You will never ever be able to escape this. You'd need witsec level disappearing and that's just not going to happen honey. You were involved in the rape of a demented old woman, that shit doesn't just go away. You need to come clean and tell the whole story, then rat out your fellow weens and ooperators if you hope to misdirect and dilute the attention. That's the only way and you know it.
 
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Spooky Bones said:
with the explanation that she leaked the video anonymously because "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned" for her crush's mother. This is not unreasonable
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Not unreasonable, but willing to bet that shes trying to come up with an excuse as to why Fiona leaked the audio (even though we don't even care that much, it was the right thing to do, a week later), and probably latching onto the people here joking around about how Chris would rather fuck his mother than her.

Its jovial, but no, means basically nothing. Why did she hang onto information about Barbara being raped for a week+, did she and CwC discuss porn and other kinks on the regular, is she involved with other troll groups, etc.

Bella jerking this thread around and not being direct + trying to deflect this way honestly just digs things further for her. Way to go ween
 
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