Clayton Ray Huff / Dream / DreamOnPvP / DreamTraps / DreamAF / DreamXD / DeltaKnight / DreamSkilful / Clayman23 - Fat Minecraft Youtuber with fans that want to torture and rape him and are in denial that he's fat.

[financhu]

Are they, though? They're both multi-millionaires raking in thousands of dollars per livestream and tens of thousands per YT video. The income discrepancy is a lot less meaningful than, say, housemates earning $28k and $180k.

If anything causes a rift in the Dream Team, it would likely be between George and Sapnap, since despite them both being "Dream's Bestfriend", there's still a large gap between the two's popularity.

Then again, Sapnap's main focus is on Twitch, not Youtube, so that could be a major factor in the apparent income/popularity gap.


Honestly Dream stans annoy me a lot less now than they used to. However, a LOT of the creepy possessiveness seems to have migrated from Dream to those two, probably because it's easier to simp for someone whose face you've seen. I mean, George still has some very boyish features despite being 24, and while Sapnap isn't conventionally attractive, he's far from a bad-looking dude.

Lemme explain a bit more why I think this.

So let me put it simply. Sapnap is a jealous kind of person. I remember him complaining a lot about the rare-finding mechanics Munchy Prison ran by Dream at the time because some players were over four times as likely to find rares due to abilities earnt through gameplay. Not long after this feature was removed... Tbh, it was a fair complaint because it was imbalanced, but the way he'd bitch about it you could tell how much it bothered him that some players simply had way better odds than he did. He'd complain whenever they found a rare.

Another time I was in a discord call with a mutual friend, Sapnap and Dream. Dream had been discussing how he learnt to code, and the mutual friend asked if Dream could teach him. Dream initially declined saying it was the kind of thing one learns better alone, but then kinda toyed with the idea of like, giving him goals. Sapnap kinda jumped in asking if Dream could teach him to code, and I kinda got the sense that he really didn't want to be left out.

In recent streams and videos, Sapnap has made numerous comments indicating he's dissatisfied with his position within the Dream Team. During one of his pokemon streams, he awkwardly mentions being the poorest Dream Team member. At the end of one of Dream's "extra scenes" videos on his second channel, Dream cuts out Sapnap complaining about being the "third wheel", but leaves it contextually obvious that's what he was complaining about. In Sapnap's recent MCC performance, he complains that Reddit hadn't rated him an S tier player.

I don't think Sapnap is like, an angry confrontational person though. He could deal with it and it wouldn't be a problem.

The problem is Dream. Dream loves to talk highly of himself, he humblebrags constantly, he's the centre of MCYT right now and he knows it. The actual gap in money doesn't really mean as much as the knowledge that it's Dream's house and Dream is letting him live there, and that as far as he sees, within the fandom eyes he's the third wheel in Dream and George's duo.

If he's feeling third best, and he's living with a guy like Dream, I just imagine that'll grate on you after a while.

 

[Chilson]

Lemme explain a bit more why I think this.

So let me put it simply. Sapnap is a jealous kind of person. I remember him complaining a lot about the rare-finding mechanics Munchy Prison ran by Dream at the time because some players were over four times as likely to find rares due to abilities earnt through gameplay. Not long after this feature was removed... Tbh, it was a fair complaint because it was imbalanced, but the way he'd bitch about it you could tell how much it bothered him that some players simply had way better odds than he did. He'd complain whenever they found a rare.

Another time I was in a discord call with a mutual friend, Sapnap and Dream. Dream had been discussing how he learnt to code, and the mutual friend asked if Dream could teach him. Dream initially declined saying it was the kind of thing one learns better alone, but then kinda toyed with the idea of like, giving him goals. Sapnap kinda jumped in asking if Dream could teach him to code, and I kinda got the sense that he really didn't want to be left out.

In recent streams and videos, Sapnap has made numerous comments indicating he's dissatisfied with his position within the Dream Team. During one of his pokemon streams, he awkwardly mentions being the poorest Dream Team member. At the end of one of Dream's "extra scenes" videos on his second channel, Dream cuts out Sapnap complaining about being the "third wheel", but leaves it contextually obvious that's what he was complaining about. In Sapnap's recent MCC performance, he complains that Reddit hadn't rated him an S tier player.

I don't think Sapnap is like, an angry confrontational person though. He could deal with it and it wouldn't be a problem.

The problem is Dream. Dream loves to talk highly of himself, he humblebrags constantly, he's the centre of MCYT right now and he knows it. The actual gap in money doesn't really mean as much as the knowledge that it's Dream's house and Dream is letting him live there, and that as far as he sees, within the fandom eyes he's the third wheel in Dream and George's duo.

If he's feeling third best, and he's living with a guy like Dream, I just imagine that'll grate on you after a while.

I get the analysis going on here, but there is a far simpler explanation. They are all clout chasing faggots who can't stand other people, even their supposed "friends", being more successful than them.

If Dream and Sapnap reversed positions it would play out almost the exact same way. Dream would be the almost exact same kind of jealous pissy bitch and Sapnap would be genuinely annoyed with having to support the third wheel that he can't get rid of without losing some of his audience being a jealous pissy bitch.

It doesn't matter that all these "friends" are making hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars and being the "poorest" is still living better than .01% of the population. Its all about that clout, jockeying for social positions and jealousy.

 

[Fortunato Brown]

I get the analysis going on here, but there is a far simpler explanation. They are all clout chasing faggots who can't stand other people, even their supposed "friends", being more successful than them.

If Dream and Sapnap reversed positions it would play out almost the exact same way. Dream would be the almost exact same kind of jealous pissy bitch and Sapnap would be genuinely annoyed with having to support the third wheel that he can't get rid of without losing some of his audience being a jealous pissy bitch.

It doesn't matter that all these "friends" are making hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars and being the "poorest" is still living better than .01% of the population. Its all about that clout, jockeying for social positions and jealousy.

And it's not particularly unique to them. It's a classic human condition, envy. Gore Vidal once said something along the lines of, "Whenever a friend succeeds in life, I die a little inside." It's interesting the imagine the pure amount of pettiness in 20 year Olds who have never done anything else in life and have frankly peaked where they are now. Now imagine knowing you and your friend have peaked at 21 and he reached an infinitely higher summit than you and always will have.

 

[Jester]

New picture just dropped. Someone on Twitter found it so I have no idea where is it from or the date. Archive: http://archive.md/jtyzk (because links don’t work for some reason)

EDIT: I was wrong, it’s from that JacobTDM guy, my bad.

 

[PinkStar]

New picture just dropped. Someone on Twitter found it so I have no idea where is it from or the date. Archive
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this is JacobTMK

 

[Shaka Brah]

New picture just dropped. Someone on Twitter found it so I have no idea where is it from or the date. Archive: http://archive.md/jtyzk (because links don’t work for some reason)
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this is JacobTMK

In fact it's from this youtube video. Please at least do a reverse image search before posting stuff like this.

 

[Jester]

In fact it's from this youtube video. Please at least do a reverse image search before posting stuff like this.

My bad, I was too quick and didn’t check.

 

[obama existence]

I'd love to hear more about this considering I only know Bad's content from a cursory glance, also the info would probably be useful in general if this thread does get rolled into a general "Dream Team" thread like I suggested.

AFAIK as the owner of MunchyMC which is a decently large MC server that like most servers is pay-to-win and has an extremely corrupt staff team (which is where I believe Dream, Sapnap, and George met), BadBoyHalo did a lot of the underhand tactics commonly done by Minecraft server owners like hiring people to DDOS competitors while also fostering a pay-to-win attitude and violating the Minecraft server EULA. His and Skeppy's early content largely also revolved around clickbait videos on MunchyMC that were basically an advertising ploy to get more people to join.

Take this with a grain of salt since it mostly comes from some videos and Reddit posts that are a few months old.

 

[financhu]

AFAIK as the owner of MunchyMC which is a decently large MC server that like most servers is pay-to-win and has an extremely corrupt staff team (which is where I believe Dream, Sapnap, and George met), BadBoyHalo did a lot of the underhand tactics commonly done by Minecraft server owners like hiring people to DDOS competitors while also fostering a pay-to-win attitude and violating the Minecraft server EULA. His and Skeppy's early content largely also revolved around clickbait videos on MunchyMC that were basically an advertising ploy to get more people to join.

Take this with a grain of salt since it mostly comes from some videos and Reddit posts that are a few months old.

>like most servers is pay-to-win
I've mentioned this previously, but in my opinion as a player, pay to win isn't the only way to play, but it definitely *is* an option. pay to win players usually get outperformed by play to win ones though. I'd actually say it's one of the least p2w servers I've played.

2nd edit: I've been trying to find a post on Munchy forums from Dream about the server being p2w. It was a pretty well written post and I'm sure people here would have found it interesting, but it seems since I last checked, all of Dream's posts on Munchy have been deleted. His forum accounts are gone.

>BadBoyHalo did a lot of the underhand tactics commonly done by Minecraft server owners like hiring people to DDOS competitors while also fostering a pay-to-win attitude
Never heard this but it sounds kinda stupid. Which competitors were ddos'd? Munchymc gets a few hundred players at best, and what's more their server hardware can't handle anymore than that, so they've no ambition to become the next Hypixel. Munchy didn't originally struggle for a playerbase because most people early on came from directly from McPvp. Is there any source for this?

>violating the Minecraft server EULA.
Munchy violates the EULA, yes. A lot of minecraft servers do. It's been brought up many times that "munchy could get blacklisted!". Each time an admin generally replies that they already *are* blacklisted. I'm not sure but as I understand, until recently Mojang had no way to block MC clients from connecting to an IP. These days a few of Munchy's IPs are blocked by Mojang, but this didn't happen that long ago.

>His and Skeppy's early content largely also revolved around clickbait videos on MunchyMC
You talking later 2018 to early 2019 here? Some wouldn't regard that as early content. I assume this is about Skeppy's trolling vids where he griefs Munchy.

Edit: Ah, I missed perhaps the most important accusation, that >the staff team corrupt.

It's really difficult to answer this. There's a lot of different people on the staff team at different levels and "corruption" isn't really uniform between them. I'd say there's some members on the team who have been or were corrupt in some way, it's largely because Munchy absolutely sucks at running a staff team. Organisation is not a single one of these guys' strong suit. Senior staff are often inaccessible, and junior mods are often teenagers afraid to act because there's a ton of rules on *how to be staff*. They send you a document with all the guidelines if you apply successfully. The senior staff usualy have completely wild sleeping schedules, which makes communication difficult and lower staff are often left to themselves without the permissions to deal with regular problems. Basically, if you let a bunch of teens organise something, it runs like that.

Probably the most egregious case, and infact only case I can think of, involving p2w and corruption was a scandal back in december 2019 where BadBoyHalo was alleged to have given a Legendary Pickaxe to a big donator he'd recently become friends with for the small price of $200 dollars. The playerbase found out the pick had been spawned in because the player's rares found stat didn't change. BadBoyHalo never explained or owned up to this, but he did spend several hours giving away player heads that day. Given what I know about BBH and the player who was allegedly sold the pick, I'd hazard a guess BBH offered to spawn it in for him because he'd already bought a fuckton of crates and he insisted on paying $200 for the pick as well and BBH didn't say no. Probably something daft like "well if you want to do that, I can't stop you." In a sense I think BBH was trying to do something nice for his friend and top donator and underestimated how badly the playerbase would react to it.

I guess how much corruption happens depends on how you define corruption. Mods would occasionally use the perms they had for ingame shenanigans, but regarding p2w I've never heard anything other than that BBH pick.

 

[Not Based or Redpilled]

Edit: Most of this information may be incorrect.
After doing a little bit of digging I was able to find GeorgeNotFound's old Steam account (Archive), which seems to now be a bait account. Found the account and confirmed it was legit here (Archive), on a Steam banlist that confirms the account was called "GeorgeeeHD" quite a while ago. The other username of "GoodGirlHalo" only confirms it more. The account has had the past username of "JustAnotherNigga" and a community post saying "Feeling gay :/". It seems that the account is owned by someone else now (maybe this iTz_EXiiLE). Friends list archive.

Spoiler: Images

- Old usernames.

Edit: The account may have never been his to begin with, some attatched images. I am a bit confused now to say the least haha. I believe that George only had the account for a small bit.

Spoiler: Sent by a friend

Yes, I do know that you can change your nickname to anything, but I figured his name being that in the same timeframe was a bit too much of a coincidence.

 

[ILikeLeopards81]

After doing a little bit of digging I was able to find GeorgeNotFound's old Steam account (Archive), which seems to now be a bait account. Found the account and confirmed it was legit here (Archive), on a Steam banlist that confirms the account was called "GeorgeeeHD" quite a while ago. The other username of "GoodGirlHalo" only confirms it more. The account has had the past username of "JustAnotherNigga" and a community post saying "Feeling gay :/". It seems that the account is owned by someone else now (maybe this iTz_EXiiLE). Friends list archive.

Spoiler: Images

- Old usernames.

Adding onto RedPilled’s post, a paraphrased thread by someone who wanted to stay anon.

http://vacbanned.com/view/detail/id/76561198104089037

The link shows previous username history, and as you can see “Stimpay” is on it. Stimpay is another MC YouTuber who was popular around the time George was — in 2014. This points towards someone in the community using well known MC youtubers name on steam during 2014.

The first name that appears on the username history is “Nighthawk8449” — which again leads you to a MC YouTuber from the MCpvp community. YouTube account

Lewdnest, another past username, was allegedly one of Leafy’s past usernames.

The steam accounts current and past friend list has no overlap with George’s confirmed past steam accounts.

Of course George could’ve used the account when his name was set, as it seems the account has passed many hands, but it’s unlikely; he isn’t known to be connected to any of the people who had ownership of the account.

After the account used George’s old ign, it seems the account was passed to someone in New Zealand in October 2014, with the name “RomyyyDB”, to finally lead to “iTzExiile”. Confirming it was passed.

Feel free to debunk any statements that were made if you have the information to do so.

 

[Not Based or Redpilled]

Adding onto RedPilled’s post, a paraphrased thread by someone who wanted to stay anon.

http://vacbanned.com/view/detail/id/76561198104089037

The link shows previous username history, and as you can see “Stimpay” is on it. Stimpay is another MC YouTuber who was popular around the time George was — in 2014. This points towards someone in the community using well known MC youtubers name on steam during 2014.

The first name that appears on the username history is “Nighthawk8449” — which again leads you to a MC YouTuber from the MCpvp community. YouTube account

Lewdnest, another past username, was allegedly one of Leafy’s past usernames.

The steam accounts current and past friend list has no overlap with George’s confirmed past steam accounts.

Of course George could’ve used the account when his name was set, as it seems the account has passed many hands, but it’s unlikely; he isn’t known to be connected to any of the people who had ownership of the account.

After the account used George’s old ign, it seems the account was passed to someone in New Zealand in October 2014, with the name “RomyyyDB”, to finally lead to “iTzExiile”. Confirming it was passed.

Feel free to debunk any statements that were made if you have the information to do so.

Yes, I now think that the account isn't George's permanent account, but one that was passed around maybe. It also seems more likley that it was just a guy who set his username to be the same. I have no in-depth knowledge of the Minecraft community, so I figured initially that it was undoubtedly his account based off of the date the username had been selected. That would also explain the account following a few Aussie steam groups. I jumped the gun a little bit and should have looked into it a little more.

 

[obama existence]

>like most servers is pay-to-win
I've mentioned this previously, but in my opinion as a player, pay to win isn't the only way to play, but it definitely *is* an option. pay to win players usually get outperformed by play to win ones though. I'd actually say it's one of the least p2w servers I've played.

2nd edit: I've been trying to find a post on Munchy forums from Dream about the server being p2w. It was a pretty well written post and I'm sure people here would have found it interesting, but it seems since I last checked, all of Dream's posts on Munchy have been deleted. His forum accounts are gone.

>BadBoyHalo did a lot of the underhand tactics commonly done by Minecraft server owners like hiring people to DDOS competitors while also fostering a pay-to-win attitude
Never heard this but it sounds kinda stupid. Which competitors were ddos'd? Munchymc gets a few hundred players at best, and what's more their server hardware can't handle anymore than that, so they've no ambition to become the next Hypixel. Munchy didn't originally struggle for a playerbase because most people early on came from directly from McPvp. Is there any source for this?

>violating the Minecraft server EULA.
Munchy violates the EULA, yes. A lot of minecraft servers do. It's been brought up many times that "munchy could get blacklisted!". Each time an admin generally replies that they already *are* blacklisted. I'm not sure but as I understand, until recently Mojang had no way to block MC clients from connecting to an IP. These days a few of Munchy's IPs are blocked by Mojang, but this didn't happen that long ago.

>His and Skeppy's early content largely also revolved around clickbait videos on MunchyMC
You talking later 2018 to early 2019 here? Some wouldn't regard that as early content. I assume this is about Skeppy's trolling vids where he griefs Munchy.

Edit: Ah, I missed perhaps the most important accusation, that >the staff team corrupt.

It's really difficult to answer this. There's a lot of different people on the staff team at different levels and "corruption" isn't really uniform between them. I'd say there's some members on the team who have been or were corrupt in some way, it's largely because Munchy absolutely sucks at running a staff team. Organisation is not a single one of these guys' strong suit. Senior staff are often inaccessible, and junior mods are often teenagers afraid to act because there's a ton of rules on *how to be staff*. They send you a document with all the guidelines if you apply successfully. The senior staff usualy have completely wild sleeping schedules, which makes communication difficult and lower staff are often left to themselves without the permissions to deal with regular problems. Basically, if you let a bunch of teens organise something, it runs like that.

Probably the most egregious case, and infact only case I can think of, involving p2w and corruption was a scandal back in december 2019 where BadBoyHalo was alleged to have given a Legendary Pickaxe to a big donator he'd recently become friends with for the small price of $200 dollars. The playerbase found out the pick had been spawned in because the player's rares found stat didn't change. BadBoyHalo never explained or owned up to this, but he did spend several hours giving away player heads that day. Given what I know about BBH and the player who was allegedly sold the pick, I'd hazard a guess BBH offered to spawn it in for him because he'd already bought a fuckton of crates and he insisted on paying $200 for the pick as well and BBH didn't say no. Probably something daft like "well if you want to do that, I can't stop you." In a sense I think BBH was trying to do something nice for his friend and top donator and underestimated how badly the playerbase would react to it.

I guess how much corruption happens depends on how you define corruption. Mods would occasionally use the perms they had for ingame shenanigans, but regarding p2w I've never heard anything other than that BBH pick.

I agree on that play to win commonly outperforms pay to win, but from what I’ve seen the vast majority of public servers, excluding a few popular ones such as Hypixel, are pay to win to some degree. My main basis for pay to win came from the ability to buy unbans, something which a lot of people in the community hate. I’m sure if you dig further you could find other instances of pay to win such as in the server store.

The DDOS part comes from something I read around a year or so, where apparently someone who owned a smallish Minecraft server with mini games or whatever similar to munchy claimed he was approached by Bad to remove those mini games, with him threatening to ”be able to bring it down”. He could’ve been lying of course, but many people were saying that it would make sense as at the time this happened munchy was apparently “dying” and this sort of tactic wasn’t uncommon. I cannot for the life of me find where I read this, and I believe it could’ve been on some discord server I joined back when Minecraft was getting popular to see what the hype was about. Again take this with a grain of salt since there is no reliable source and the guy could’ve pulled it out of his ass, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s true because such tactics have been done by servers before.


Regarding his and skeppys videos, yes I was referring to the griefing ones which were basically just an intricate advertising ploy to get kids to join the server with the premise of meeting Skeppy and Bad of something.

The issue of corruption isn’t straightforward by any means, and I was mostly referring to internal disorganization and lack of punishment for trainees fucking up along with high ranking members only enforcing the rules with some members and having “favorites”. Then again this happens with basically any teenage staff team as you have mentioned, because back in 2014 or something when I decided it would be cool to be staff on a Minecraft server the higher ranked staff basically held all the power and if they broke a rule no one could do shit.

 

[Novichops]

I've been hearing something on Twitter about Dream admitting to faking his viewer count to get into MC Monday [his first "big streamer event"] does anyone have a source for this? All I can find are vague Tweets that aren't helpful whatsoever.

Background: MCM requires at least 2k viewers on average to get into the event, Dream allegedly botted those viewers to get into the event.

 

[thinking about mr hands]

I've been hearing something on Twitter about Dream admitting to faking his viewer count to get into MC Monday [his first "big streamer event"] does anyone have a source for this? All I can find are vague Tweets that aren't helpful whatsoever.

Background: MCM requires at least 2k viewers on average to get into the event, Dream allegedly botted those viewers to get into the event.

He might have brought it up while on Captain Puffy's stream with Minx perhaps? The stans last night were fuming because they hate Minx and got her trending for neg because she apparently brought up DNF a few times, despite the fact she's made it clear that she doesn't like the queerbaiting. From what I hear, Dream was skitting around the subject or hesitating a bunch before answering while George was just doing what George does and ignored it/went with the flow.
Interesting how Clayton can be bold and proclaiming "DNF canon" everywhere while with his group, The Britts and Kaceytron, but when it comes to being around CaptainPuffy, an actual lesbian, and Minx, who has a number of creators in her park and a large following plus is also actually LGBT, he seems to not be able to do his gig of him and George being "made for each other". Is he afraid of being called out for it by someone who's actually what he's trying to be, plus has a large following? It's kind of interesting.


Edit: I am big retard, CaptainPuffy is bi, please excuse my messup

 

[ILikeLeopards81]

I've been hearing something on Twitter about Dream admitting to faking his viewer count to get into MC Monday [his first "big streamer event"] does anyone have a source for this? All I can find are vague Tweets that aren't helpful whatsoever.

Background: MCM requires at least 2k viewers on average to get into the event, Dream allegedly botted those viewers to get into the event.

I’m not too sure about Dream, but quackity and other contestants during MCM used to lie regularly about their viewer count to get into and maintain their position in MCM .

Keemstar was very lazy in his management and never really checked to confirm viewer count on his contestants.

Also, unrelated but Hands, Captain Puffy is bisexual.

 

[financhu]

I agree on that play to win commonly outperforms pay to win, but from what I’ve seen the vast majority of public servers, excluding a few popular ones such as Hypixel, are pay to win to some degree. My main basis for pay to win came from the ability to buy unbans, something which a lot of people in the community hate. I’m sure if you dig further you could find other instances of pay to win such as in the server store.

The DDOS part comes from something I read around a year or so, where apparently someone who owned a smallish Minecraft server with mini games or whatever similar to munchy claimed he was approached by Bad to remove those mini games, with him threatening to ”be able to bring it down”. He could’ve been lying of course, but many people were saying that it would make sense as at the time this happened munchy was apparently “dying” and this sort of tactic wasn’t uncommon. I cannot for the life of me find where I read this, and I believe it could’ve been on some discord server I joined back when Minecraft was getting popular to see what the hype was about. Again take this with a grain of salt since there is no reliable source and the guy could’ve pulled it out of his ass, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it’s true because such tactics have been done by servers before.


Regarding his and skeppys videos, yes I was referring to the griefing ones which were basically just an intricate advertising ploy to get kids to join the server with the premise of meeting Skeppy and Bad of something.

The issue of corruption isn’t straightforward by any means, and I was mostly referring to internal disorganization and lack of punishment for trainees fucking up along with high ranking members only enforcing the rules with some members and having “favorites”. Then again this happens with basically any teenage staff team as you have mentioned, because back in 2014 or something when I decided it would be cool to be staff on a Minecraft server the higher ranked staff basically held all the power and if they broke a rule no one could do shit.

With MunchyMc, when a player is banned they're sent to the purgatory server where they can earn an unban by breaking 12000 stone blocks. The purgatory server is frequently completely unmoderated, so with a hack client you can earn an unban in less than a day. So as far as bans go, Munchy isn't p2w.
On prison the way one pays to win is just buying shitloads of crates and selling the rares, but that won't get you that far unless you have literally thousands to spend and nothing better to spend it on (and there has been people like this), or you actually have the skill to use money and items wisely and survive outside, and even if you do, you're probably going to be targeted by groups because everyone sees ingame purchases and knows who the p2w players are. In earlier maps there were peace passes, which completely disabled pvp for 5 minutes. These initially were very underused but later became a staple of the server. However, people would buy them and sell them ingame, allowing non-p2w players to get them.
On Kitpvp, which admittedly I know a lot less well, you can buy kits, but if you can't soup and you can't refill, it doesn't matter how much you spend. Kits used to be able to be bought with ingame tokens, and these days free to play players can rent them for a fairly low ingame cost. The kits are (usually) fairly well balanced, with the one that received the most recent update usually having an edge. All in all, while having p2w elements, it's a lot more playable than most other servers of a comparable size or status. Skeppy's server, for example, will have free to play players going up against prot 4 diamond in prot 1 iron.

Now that story about Badboyhalo seems a lot more likely than him actually ddosing. I've mentioned before, and it's probably obvious to most people, but Badboyhalo is kind of autistic. If someone was ripping off a gamemode Munchy had developed like Wool Wars, I can totally imagine him being possessive and making vague threats about "bringing it down". What I can't imagine is him actually doing that though. At most I imagine he probably wanted to sound as if he meant ddosing, but meant just talking shit about their server. In any case, it wouldn't have taken long for BBh to realise that bothering with a tiny ripoff server with likely no active playerbase harms him more than it helps him.

As far staff selectively enforcing rules... similar to pay2win this actually a lot less of a problem then you'd expect. Staff do have favourites, but they're almost frustratingly paranoid of the accusation of bias. Most staff, however reluctantly, will punish their friends. The only case I can think of recently where players connections with staff were used to evade punishment was after Alyssa got muted for ddos threats, and was later unmuted by the console, and when a friend of Awsamdude/Alyssa abused a glitch to escape being killed outside and his tempban duration was reduced. That's not to say there isn't corruption on the staff team, but it's usually more lowkey stuff like info leaks of upcoming changes to the game, or using /tp perms to teleport your team outside somewhere remote to test items

I've been hearing something on Twitter about Dream admitting to faking his viewer count to get into MC Monday [his first "big streamer event"] does anyone have a source for this? All I can find are vague Tweets that aren't helpful whatsoever.

Background: MCM requires at least 2k viewers on average to get into the event, Dream allegedly botted those viewers to get into the event.

Interested in this source too. I have no doubt this is true, because Dream was real desperate to hit the viewer count on the day of Minecraft Monday, he came into our groupchat and begged us all to watch... Which I did. Literally the only reason I ever made a youtube account was to watch his minecraft monday stream and sub to him.

As far as I remember he got around 300-500 viewers during the event. Way below the cap. He'd never streamed before, so there's literally no way he could have even applied to be on Minecraft Monday without lying. It was no big deal at the time, since they'd already snuck BBH and a6d into the event without Keem kicking off. I think the week Dream played is the week Keem started getting pissy about small streamers.

 

[thinking about mr hands]

Also, unrelated but Hands, Captain Puffy is bisexual.

s h i t, I forgot. Thought she had a girlfriend so my first instinct went "lesbian" my bad! Thanks for the correction!!

 

[Sn3x]

He might have brought it up while on Captain Puffy's stream with Minx perhaps? The stans last night were fuming because they hate Minx and got her trending for neg because she apparently brought up DNF a few times, despite the fact she's made it clear that she doesn't like the queerbaiting. From what I hear, Dream was skitting around the subject or hesitating a bunch before answering while George was just doing what George does and ignored it/went with the flow.
Interesting how Clayton can be bold and proclaiming "DNF canon" everywhere while with his group, The Britts and Kaceytron, but when it comes to being around CaptainPuffy, an actual lesbian, and Minx, who has a number of creators in her park and a large following plus is also actually LGBT, he seems to not be able to do his gig of him and George being "made for each other". Is he afraid of being called out for it by someone who's actually what he's trying to be, plus has a large following? It's kind of interesting.


Edit: I am big retard, CaptainPuffy is bi, please excuse my messup

Yep he admitted to faking viewers in capt puffy stream to get into Minecraft Monday (I got the feeling he photoshopped his numbers or something I’m not sure how YouTube works).

Techno also did this when he entered but he successfully pulled the numbers he claimed to get and even surpassed them, which dream didn’t. in the “podcast” dream said he didn’t perform well because he was more worried about the number of viewers than the actual tournament.

also related a6d and Wilbur both didn’t get the viewer threshold and they made jokes about getting kicked while in the tournament. A6d was eventually kicked out because of low viewership iirc.

also I’ll say the shippers where mad happy with this stream, so I’m not sure where are you getting your info, but they did pull the dnf card a lot. Dream usually responds with “whaaat” when directly asked about “would you kiss George” or any similar question. So it wasn’t as you told it.

seems like people here don’t watch the content (can’t blame you) but that stream had a lot of “juicy” bits, such as the dream minecraft Monday part, in which he admitted of trying to “taking advantage” of techno pretty much. Techno ignored him.

I know I don’t exactly fit here because I won’t call Dream any variation of his alleged real name, but I find this thread entertaining and I hope I won’t be written off just for that

 

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also I’ll say the shippers where mad happy with this stream, so I’m not sure where are you getting your info, but they did pull the dnf card a lot. Dream usually responds with “whaaat” when directly asked about “would you kiss George” or any similar question. So it wasn’t as you told it.

I got the info about Capt.Puffy on Twitter and honestly, there was a lot of shippers actually pissed at Minx for bringing up DNF and claiming she “never saw a gay couple before” and a bunch of weird things like that, as well as constantly telling her to “shut up” and “stop talking over Dream and George.” this wasn’t on the stream, this was more of the Twitter base, but she got trending because of how many people were just bashing her repeatedly for being on a stream with her friend.
It’s nothing new when it comes to Minx as she can’t even interact with George without stans absolutely flipping their shit at her which she mentioned in a stream, this was a few months ago so I don’t know if an archive exists, I can check later on YouTube and post what I find if it’s still relevant to the thread.,that it sucked because her and George are friends.
(Side note about Minx and George, back in mid 2020, Minx won George’s Love Or Host which was positively received by Twitter Stans, and now she can’t interact with him without some variation of “GET BEHIND ME GOGY” being flooded in her quote retweets and death threats. Absolutely insane how quickly the fandom quickly spiraled into more and more insanity.)

It was also a few shippers who were bringing up how Dream and George were responding to questions and saying that, namely Dream, kept pausing and stammering when answering. Granted, I haven’t seen them interact outside of Dream demanding George say “I love you” so I figured if the stans were bringing it up, then it must be something different.

Good news about Captain Puffy’s stream tho, she has a lot of overlaps with Dream’s fanbase due to her being on the DSMP, plus almost any moment that Dream is on a stream will get snatched up by clip channels with very telling titles, so the stream is more than likely to be archived by a bunch of kids on YouTube.