Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[biozeminadae1]

Many of these posts are about males transitioning. I wonder if anyone has made a study of the overabundance of men transitioning, instead of the opposite?

 

[biozeminadae1]

My childhood friend who singlehandedly changed my life for the better became has been trooning out.

I won't powerlevel too much but let's just say that out of the chaotic mess that was my childhood, he was the first ever real friend I ever had back then. Absolute nerd with a borderline autistic fixation on whatever card game/series/anime he was into at the time, incredibly ballsy for a dried up shrimp, had crazy art skills at the age of 10, and to top it all off, had a pretty good home life too; his parents lived in the middle of nowhere but they didn't mind driving him a whopping 17 km to school 4 days per week.

Bar the nerdy part, he was the exact opposite of me. I was distrustful, poor, talentless and very prone to violence. But as years passed, somehow he taught me to stop being afraid of people, start acting a little more natural. I can't stress enough how this guy changed my life for the best (as much as I did for him, because holy shit the guy loved to poke the local school bullies).

So, fast forward a handful of years later, shenanigans happened and he graduated a year sooner than I did. Because I was being an ass.

By that point, I lost sight of him. I never got around to check up on how he was doing: I was still poor and never had a phone number to give, and I felt like I needed to truly work on myself. Another couple of years later, one special friend (that's leaning super trad) of ours from the circle Art Bro and I both made somehow found my phone number (I still don't have a clue how) and contacted me, he wanted to hang out and chat.

And so we did, and not long into our conversation, I asked how Art Bro was doing, and apparently he went to a very prestigious art school in Europe. And he would've been furious I referred to him as a dude.
Over the years, he had made friends with a group of degenerate socjus dangerhairs who more or less gave him carte blanche to give in to his spergy side. At one point Trad Bro felt forced to call out this bullshit. This, on top of Art Bro openly admitting he wanted to fuck him all along and getting politely turned down, led Art Bro to grow more and more distant from everybody except the soy posse.

By the time I reconnected with Trad Bro, he already was on HRT, his art studies were slowly falling apart, and he implied he was well on his way to try getting it chopped off despite his parents' disapproval. I tried contacting him through text and even tried calling but to this day I've never had a single answer. In fact, nobody who knew him does besides probably his family currently.

I sincerely hope he hasn't cut his dick off and hung himself yet. I don't want to see the man who gave me hope die like this.

I fucking hate this big pharma trend. The fact that there's already so many stories that are even worse than mine alarms me.

Wait, Trad bro was also trooning out, or is it a simple typo?

 

[Tinten]

My ex-best bud went troon. He ran from himself for so long (herself, I suppose) that it seems like it just consumed him. I look back on his profile on Insta and it's just LGBTHSJDBFHCII+ bullshit. His significant other seems to be some fucking tranny as well, just an endless symphony of the same song.




M.. if you're reading this.. I miss you. Also, your refrigerator is running.

 

[Foghot]

Wait, Trad bro was also trooning out, or is it a simple typo?

That's a typo. Trad bro is still true to his code.

Thanks for pointing it out, I'll make my wording less confusing.

 

[AMHOLIO]

Many of these posts are about males transitioning. I wonder if anyone has made a study of the overabundance of men transitioning, instead of the opposite?

If they did they would probably get one hell of a BTFOing by the sensitivity committees that govern funding. @Rainbow Frog Army didn't you have a study get nuked, not for males but in a general trans sense?

 

[KandinskyCandle]

Yeah androgynous fashion has always been pretty in style. Rick Owens, Rei Kawakubo, Raf Simons, Telfar, and countless others have based entire collections on androgyny. It’s not difficult to find if you got a good eye and just a little bit of tastes (sadly troons don’t).

Exactly. There are also brands like Hope that cut all their designs for both men and women. Dressing like a male model off duty would generally give dudes who want it a slightly more androgynous look what they want and so would buying the loose cut women’s suiting that’s popular now. Guy I know owns a women’s Acne suit because he liked the fabric and doesn’t give a fuck and it looks great.

Ultimately, they all go for “skirt go spinny” because it’s a sex thing and they actually don’t pay attention to anything women do if it doesn’t give them an erection. I try to give fashion advice to people I think are just slightly effeminate guys who don’t realise they can have a different style without deciding to change their entire gender, but most of them have already been pulled down the paraphilia rabbit hole by the time they express a desire to transition.

For instance, guy I know—who was actually already into fashion—transitioned and started copying some of the stuff I wear... but only the things that were most unsuited for him. Like I’m not butch but I do wear a lot of styles that could probably work on a dude, but he only went for the most revealing outfits I own even though delicate thin strapped tops paired with big trousers are the worst fit if you’ve got a man’s body. But the stuff women wear normally to get about our days don’t fuel the bimbo fetish I guess. Anyway the whole thing made me feel weird, but also like I was being overly paranoid lmfao. I don’t post outfits online anymore.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Many of these posts are about males transitioning. I wonder if anyone has made a study of the overabundance of men transitioning, instead of the opposite?

I remember reading an article somewhere claiming it was actually more women transitioning in recent years, i searched on google and found this

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/trgh.2019.0070#:~:text=A%20recent%20meta%2Danalysis%20of,)%20per%20100%2C000%2C%20respectively).

If i read correctly mtfs have indeed always been more common but nowadays ftm has increased so much lately is now equal to mtfs, and for both males and women incidence has been increasing and also the age where they seek treatment is decreasing for both groups.

 

[Rainbow Frog Army]

If they did they would probably get one hell of a BTFOing by the sensitivity committees that govern funding. @Rainbow Frog Army didn't you have a study get nuked, not for males but in a general trans sense?

I didn't even get it that far--I got far enough to do the checks on if I had a snowball's chance in hell of getting it through and was told the odds weren't good enough for it to be worth doing all the paperwork.

I feel for anybody who actually cares about tranny health who wants to look at something the long-term consequences of female hormones on transwomen, though. I doubt you'd get that one through, even if you were able to recruit a trannie as one of the authors...and sent her to make the case in terms of "I like breathing."

Not unless your actual goal is to catch video of a sensitivity committee BTFOing the only transwoman in the room for being insensitive to transwomen.

 

[Fish Fudge]

I remember reading an article somewhere claiming it was actually more women transitioning in recent years, i searched on google and found this

https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/pdf/10.1089/trgh.2019.0070#:~:text=A%20recent%20meta%2Danalysis%20of,)%20per%20100%2C000%2C%20respectively).

If i read correctly mtfs have indeed always been more common but nowadays ftm has increased so much lately is now equal to mtfs, and for both males and women incidence has been increasing and also the age where they seek treatment is decreasing for both groups.

I think there's an important distinction to keep in mind - the MTF types typically get going in later years (20s-50s and beyond) whereas the FTM types are overwhelmingly teenage girls still at school.

 

[Windows Error 98]

Literally all of my female friends in freshman year of high school. I almost got caught too, but then my parents dragged me 1500 miles across the country for a work move and I realized “hey wait this is retarded”
“Not a social contagion” My ass

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Literally all of my female friends in freshman year of high school. I almost got caught too, but then my parents dragged me 1500 miles across the country for a work move and I realized “hey wait this is retarded”
“Not a social contagion” My ass

Is weird because almost all women i know, even the most feminine ones had at least a phase in their lives where they dressed more manly or decided to "not be like other girls" avoid makeup and anything girly and stuff like that. I guess if i was 10 year younger all of them would have had the same phase except it would have involved neo.pronouns and troonism and maybe a couple would have considered doing something more permanent to their bodies they would have regretted. Even had a friend who exclusively dressed as a man for years, never saw her in anything other than combat boots and baggy pants and male shirts, now is not only in a heterosexual marriage but can't be seen without makeup, and also wears heels, cleavage blouses and skirts routinely, she was never even bisexual, it was just how she felt back then and then she didn't, we humans are always growing and changing but i imagine if she was 15 today retards online would be diagnosing her as terminally transexual and totally and egg_irl.

 

[Windows Error 98]

Is weird because almost all women i know, even the most feminine ones had at least a phase in their lives where they dressed more manly or decided to "not be like other girls" avoid makeup and anything girly and stuff like that. I guess if i was 10 year younger all of them would have had the same phase except it would have involved neo.pronouns and troonism and maybe a couple would have considered doing something more permanent to their bodies they would have regretted. Even had a friend who exclusively dressed as a man for years, never saw her in anything other than combat boots and baggy pants and male shirts, now is not only in a heterosexual marriage but can't be seen without makeup, and also wears heels, cleavage blouses and skirts routinely, she was never even bisexual, it was just how she felt back then and then she didn't, we humans are always growing and changing but i imagine if she was 15 today retards online would be diagnosing her as terminally transexual and totally and egg_irl.

Are FtMs even on egg_irl? I’ve gone there a few times because I am a firm believer in Know Your Enemy and it was like 95% MtFs.

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Are FtMs even on egg_irl? I’ve gone there a few times because I am a firm believer in Know Your Enemy and it was like 95% MtFs.

I guess there are but is reddit so it makes sense that 95% are neckbeard agps though.

 

[behindyourightnow]

'Complicated gender feelings'? What ever happened to 'dressing up and playing with a novel aspect of your identity can be fun'? Or 'I kind of enjoy having a boyish look. Neat. Time to perfect the look, and go on with my life.'

They're fucking clothes, people. Who cares.

 

[Nigger Respecter]

If your gender can change based on pants, then your gender is meaningless

 

[Aunt Carol]

Is weird because almost all women i know, even the most feminine ones had at least a phase in their lives where they dressed more manly or decided to "not be like other girls" avoid makeup and anything girly and stuff like that. I guess if i was 10 year younger all of them would have had the same phase except it would have involved neo.pronouns and troonism and maybe a couple would have considered doing something more permanent to their bodies they would have regretted.

The feeling is kind of "shit, not only do I have to master adulthood, but I also have to master womanhood on top of that?" Breasts come in on their own timetable and you can't hit snooze.

In a way, it was safer back then. Plenty of girls had their unappealing androgyny phase while they were test-driving their new bodies, then came to the independent understanding that you can just wear or do whatever, fuck 'em. A decade or two later it would have been easy to fall into the inescapable genderspecial vortex, where such conclusions are not allowed and fragility is encouraged.

(Would I have been thus, I always wonder. My parents did stand back and let me get my glasses in unflattering wire aviator frames, but they might have just realized that was more reliable than birth control.)

I think that if someone could articulate it better than me (not hard), it'd sound familiar to a lot of women and explain why all the grandkids are they/thems these days. It's not just the darn phones.

 

[Dorbis]

I discovered my little cousin's twitter account as she uses the same nick on her Xbox One. Searched for it on Twitter because I'm a creep. Besides obviously supporting all the progressive bullshit and being a vegan, she now uses "any pronoun", as it says on her bio. She just made 14. I'm pretty sure this will affect her brother too, who's 5 years younger. The funny part is that her father is somewhat a "redpilled" guy. Well, we are good friends so we discuss political matters and we agree on everything, including jews, racial questions, all that good stuff. Lol, he's even rich and has given truly an incredible life to her, very good education and all. Based on her posts I don't doubt she will "come out" as transgender soon. I will not have kids. There's no escape from this shit.

 

[Vingle]

I discovered my little cousin's twitter account as she uses the same nick on her Xbox One. Searched for it on Twitter because I'm a creep. Besides obviously supporting all the progressive bullshit and being a vegan, she now uses "any pronoun", as it says on her bio. She just made 14. I'm pretty sure this will affect her brother too, who's 5 years younger. The funny part is that her father is somewhat a "redpilled" guy. Well, we are good friends so we discuss political matters and we agree on everything, including jews, racial questions, all that good stuff. Lol, he's even rich and has given truly an incredible life to her, very good education and all. Based on her posts I don't doubt she will "come out" as transgender soon. I will not have kids. There's no escape from this shit.

I would seriously tip her father about this, letting kids that young roam free on the internet is retarded. He can still get it in kinda control because she's under 18.

 

[Dorbis]

I would seriously tip her father about this, letting kids that young roam free on the internet is retarded. He can still get it in kinda control because she's under 18.

Indeed. I will be talking to him about the hellhole the internet can be, especially for teenagers and kids, next time we meet.

 

[SaltyFanta]

If your gender can change based on pants, then your gender is meaningless

I've come to the conclusion that gender itself isn't real. I think it's just something trans people tell themselves exists so there's atleast one part of them that is authentically and naturally the same as the sex they want to be.