US Instances of Voter Fraud (Megathread?) - Probably a good idea to have a thread on this given how often it's discussed and will continue to be discussed even after November.

[Constellationzero]

It's rather obvious that even if evidence is ever found, Biden is still in the White House no matter what. Trump's not getting back in unless he somehow pulls a Grover Cleveland in 2024 and I doubt he will.

Yet the DNC and MSM are still going apeshit over the election audits and trying to suppress any discussion of it and deem it "conspiracy theories" and all that. It comes off as if they're afraid something might be found.

Here's a theory. It's blind conjecture, so don't take it as gospel truth.

Spoiler: Autistic rambling

1. Trump is not getting back in, that is a hard fact. But something tells me that's not what the DNC is afraid of.

2. The DNC had no top-down plan to rig the 2020 Election but it's a lot more likely any fraud that could have occurred were a bunch of "stand alone complex" doings at the state and local levels. @Secret Asshole has proposed a similar theory.

3. Going with the second point, this would mean there was fraud on a state or local level and the federal level Dems just rolled with it. If so much as a single shred of hard evidence gets found, that's a huge black mark and media blackouts can only go so far if it gets proven in court.

4. The Democrats are worried about the 2022 midterms. The House is likely a lost cause and the Senate is in a precarious position as it is. HR1 failed in the Senate. The coming second wave of lockdowns and COVID-19 restrictions might be a last-ditch attempt to fortify it all over again, but a lot less people are going to be as compliant.

5. If the 2022 midterms go badly enough, there's a possibility the GOP will have a large majority in both chambers of Congress. That means they can get a lot of shit done if they decide to actually do so (lol)

6. With points 4 and 5 taken into account, if it gets proven in a state court that so much as one instance of electoral fraud happened, even if it was a few sheboons or woke neckbeards on the local precinct level that were acting of their own accord with no support from up on high, that gives a GOP-controlled Congress an opening to impeach Biden and Kamala since the national level Dems just rolled with it.

Impeaching Trump twice, the second time being done after he was out of office no less, is enough of a precedent for politicized bullshit impeachments (tbh, the same can be said of the Republicans doing the same to Clinton in the 90's) and there's a good chance that if the audits prove something and it's in the public record, even the RINO types plus maybe Manchin will vote to impeach Biden and Kamala just to ensure their reelection.

Autistic conjecture aside, I honestly don't think these audits will really amount to anything one way or the other.

But what if (now stay with me, please, because this is both possible and probable) OTHER world leaders hear of widespread election fraud being discovered, and proceed to REFUSE to recognize Biden and his whore?

What if Putin smirks while telling creepy corn pop to stick Kamala straight up his own asshole and have Hunter twist her sideways? What do? Because it is both possible AND probable that his removal would have to be an option when the other countries stand up (something our own fucking guys keep failing to do) and state brazenly and frequently that Corn Pop ain't even president of the ice cream truck let alone the US. What then?

 

[Blood Bath & Beyond]

Why would anyone realistically even want Trump back in office in the first place? Like I mean, fuck Biden, but the entirety of Trump's Presidency can be summed up as "sperging on Twitter about how he was gonna do something, but then never actually doing anything". When he had the option to do literally anything to proactively protect the election from tampering he instead decided to shit his pants, do nothing and rage on Twitter. When people rushed the capital to protest for Daddie's cummies he threw them under the bus and now some 100+ people are in indefinite detention without even being officially charged with anything. He was so infinitely butthurt about Twitter deleting his hot-takes and contradicting his opinions he began a crusade to literally destroy the internet as we know it. Anyone who still supports Trump after how he wasted his once in a lifetime opportunity to actually do something to positively affect the US is just as much of a useless brainlet as anyone who unironically supports Biden/Kamala.

I have no idea how American policy would actually play out in such a situation, but in my idealized best case scenario: Biden/Kamala get booted, DeSantis wins the emergency election and Trump never sets foot in the White House again.

Or, even better, we go back in time and Ron Paul wins.

 

[XYZpdq]

yeah from what I've gathered from multiple Professional Expert interviews, most of whom were balls-deep in TRUMP WUZ ROBBED and some of whom legit argue shit in SCOTUS, even if you found a notarized statement signed by Biden, Harris, JEB!, and Pelosi saying "lol us uniparty are gonna rig shit, eat me nerds" there is literally nothing in the constitution to accommodate for that, the USA's laws are written pretty specifically that once the person is sworn in your choices are impeach, ride it out, or minecraft, because the idea of trying to unravel laws signed while a president what got undone did is more hassle than anybody wants

 

[AMERICA]

Why would anyone realistically even want Trump back in office in the first place?

For the most part I am indifferent about Trump. I do want him back for one reason, I like his economic policies way more than Biden's, Trump's policies are better for a country trying to recover economically after all the lock downs.

The criticisms that Trump was in many ways a lame duck who knew of certain problems and did nothing is fair. He didn't do enough about social media and big tech issues. He didn't do enough for election security despite all of his crowing about it, I agree with you there. But the economy was a point of pride of his, and he actually acknowledged the stuff going on in the Rust Belt. Biden administration doesn't seem to care about the people effected by years of sending all of our industry over seas. Seems like now would be the perfect time to invest in those communities and bring back manufacturing jobs, which is more likely to happen with Trump than Biden administration. Also I think he's right about China.

 

[Gehenna]

For the most part I am indifferent about Trump. I do want him back for one reason, I like his economic policies way more than Biden's, Trump's policies are better for a country trying to recover economically after all the lock downs.

The criticisms that Trump was in many ways a lame duck who knew of certain problems and did nothing is fair. He didn't do enough about social media and big tech issues. He didn't do enough for election security despite all of his crowing about it, I agree with you there. But the economy was a point of pride of his, and he actually acknowledged the stuff going on in the Rust Belt. Biden administration doesn't seem to care about the people effected by years of sending all of our industry over seas. Seems like now would be the perfect time to invest in those communities and bring back manufacturing jobs, which is more likely to happen with Trump than Biden administration. Also I think he's right about China.

Also, the question rises of "What could Trump himself actually do?". If you don't have a congress willing to play ball, you are dead in the water. And rushing 'solutions' out the gate in the first two years isn't viable and is likely to backfire. This is why you generally see a lot more action in a second-term president than a first-term one. And that's ignoring the fact that the 100 day grace period that most presidents are offered to get their initial bills out was never given to Trump.

 

[Plank]

Colorado Sec. of State prohibits use of 41 components of Mesa County voting system after probe

The comments are noticeably lacking the usual Democrat damage control posts.

 

[Mr Cuddles]

Spoiler: Why I think the steal wasn't stand alone

I'm going to go against the grain regarding whether or not the 2020 steal was a stand alone complex. For me there was just too much going on between the pre-election lawsuits, Big tech, elections of BLM/far-left AG's/SOS and donations from dubious organisations going into specific counties for it to be a state and local level issue. I'm guessing that Biden's campaign were well aware that they were never going to win legitimately and were also well aware that the 2020 election would be decided by lawsuits.

The specifics on exactly how this would happen would be left to the states and local precincts but the plan was always to steal. This is why Big Tech went on censor hyperdrive on the 2nd and 3rd November. Their role was to limit as much information as possible coming out. The role of news networks including fox was to make it seem like Biden was always a favourite to win which is why they slowrolled calling any state for Trump and prematurely called states for Biden. Before those 5 states stopped counting the betting markets had Trump at 1/12 to win and yet the news networks still had Biden ahead of declared states. The precincts where the counting had stopped were already kicking out republican observers as early as 10am EST in the morning and fulton county georgia kicked out them at 10.30pm.

There is just too much coordination for this to be stand alone

When it comes to what will happen if election changing fraud becomes undeniable is a bit of a toss up in my mind. Trump will not be sworn in that much is near certain. I can see the Biden administration limping on in absurd fashion. It may look terrible but I really think the DNC is past caring about optics. The thing I think most people here forget is that is that most of them are ideologues. If they were so determined to steal 2020 blatantly and effectively gitmo their own citizens why would world leaders giving them the stink eye change their minds. I can honestly see a "deal with it" or a "well you stole the 2000 election" reaction.

The other possibility is that a lot of Red States come together and basically go to SCOTUS/Congress/any viable option " sort this out, or we are out". What the democrats did in 2020 was effectively a precursor to civil war. They broke the contract between the 50 states and have effectively rendered representative democracy moot in the US. Biden resigning and letting Kamala or whoever finish out his term would be unacceptable. If the red states actually pull the trigger on this one, I'm confident they would probably win.

And no this civil war won't involve guns or be anything like the first civil war. There would just be a special election.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

And no this civil war won't involve guns or be anything like the first civil war. There would just be a special election.

I still think some people would get rather upset at the situation, and specifically at the media that covered up the whole thing. Would be a bad time to be a journalist. Good time for rope salesmen, though.

 

[Random Internet Person]

I still think some people would get rather upset at the situation, and specifically at the media that covered up the whole thing. Would be a bad time to be a journalist. Good time for rope salesmen, though.

I didn’t know Minecraft and Roblox expanded their building capabilities.

 

[Badungus Kabungus]

I didn’t know Minecraft and Roblox expanded their building capabilities.

It's the business opportunity of the century. My rope futures contract is going to be worth a shitload. And don't get me started on the contract I made with that shovel factory last month.

We're about to open a chain of franchises called Rob's Rope (formerly Dave's).

 

[Jar-Jar Fanboy]

Why would anyone realistically even want Trump back in office in the first place?

Because it would be fucking hilarious to watch the media and blue checkmarks shit themselves in anger if he suddenly got reinstated

 

[MadStan]

After all the court briefs (hundreds of pages combined), videos "Absolute Proof" and the Symposium I'd imagine I've thrown 40-60 hours into the reading of the tripe. Probably more.

And it is all total bullshit. Not even a thread of truth.

The only thing ever said in any of this that ever held any weight was the technical counting of the mail-in votes in PA simply because there was a reasonable ground to hear the matter based on the circumstances of that particular states law and how it unfolded. I agree with Kavanaugh that it probably should have been worthy of a hearing in the Supreme Court.

But still, even if it had been given a hearing that doesn't mean the votes would have been voided because the SC probably would have recognized the technical act was a law violation, but weighed it against the purpose of the law and weighed that against the constitutional right to vote and that laws are there to assist - not inhibit - voting.

So I doubt any relief would have been granted.

But that is it, there was never anything to any of the claims.

The first time I read Sidney's brief I just new that all that had happened is they put a bunch of people in a room and said "how do you steal an election? And let us say they did it. We will prove it later." And it really does show this was the process because when the briefs hit the courts, it was obvious someone who was not familiar with how elections are currently conducted, and the current election laws, that the briefs were ever valid.

 

[ZMOT]

Seriously, stop and think about it. Actually think about it. WHY would they want HARRIS in the office? To be a puppet? They could pick a ton more for that, hell they could raise a fucking nobody up to it and have a -better- puppet.

Right, so not that. Causes she's 'black'? See prior one.

Right, so some PERSONAL reason... no. Kamala has fuck and all strings to pull, she has nowhere near the influence to -begin- to do that.

There is legitimately not a single reason why "Get Kamala in for 10 years!" even approaches a plan to be made.

like who? at what cost? even your MSM cronies shilling for you isn't free.
it's kamala for the same reason lot of people pick a women - she's cheap and available.

charisma void doesn't matter, what you gonna do, impeach because public opinion? and who, gopcucks? and that's considering the public even hears or cares about it. the spotlights aren't on the white house anymore to get some trump soundbites as outrage material, before and after trump no one really cared who is doing what in there, that's suddenly only important when it's an election year (or someone gets his cock sucked).

 

[Mr Cuddles]

The first time I read Sidney's brief I just new that all that had happened is they put a bunch of people in a room and said "how do you steal an election? And let us say they did it. We will prove it later."

Look, we established in the Biden megathread that you never actually read anything you've claimed to have read. Please stop this faux intellectual shit.

 

[MadStan]

Look, we established in the Biden megathread that you never actually read anything you've claimed to have read. Please stop this faux intellectual shit.

I have read them.

That is why I am so fucking arrogant and laugh at these stupid dicks on here. If they ever read the briefs, they'd call up Trump for their money back.

Knowledge is power, and these tools on here know shit.

 

[MadStan]

For anyone interested, Slate provided the Courts opinion on the case of Rudi, Powell and Lindell, 44 pages. Why Dominions case holds water and why it will proceed.

Worth the read only because it really shows how utterly fucked they are. It also shows some interesting tactics from Rudi to have the suit dismissed. But for anyone interested, the opinion goes into why the case will not be transferred to the home states of the defendants, and why their case can not be dismissed and why there is a real case and assists the reader by showing the legal difference between opinion and stated falsehoods, and why Dominion may pursue economic loss, but it seems the part of damages is likely to be heavily debated in court.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.227759/gov.uscourts.dcd.227759.54.0.pdf

I usually cut and paste content so above I have simply given the web address of the opinion, but I do not know if it will accept it when I hit "post".

All in all reading between the lines, I'd say Dominion is after 200 Million in cash.

 

[X Prime]

Look, we established in the Biden megathread that you never actually read anything you've claimed to have read. Please stop this faux intellectual shit.

I applaud you for your restraint and exceptional magnanimity in not just pointing out the likelihood that the fellow can't read, and hence writes a whole lot of nothing in an attempt to hide that deficit.

 

[MadStan]

I applaud you for your restraint and exceptional magnanimity in not just pointing out the likelihood that the fellow can't read, and hence writes a whole lot of nothing in an attempt to hide that deficit.

So I take it you'll be ignorant of the election fraud evidence for as long as you live.

Let's test your genius and see if you can tell me (because you are so well read up on this) what is wrong with this image below. It is from one of the court cases your team filed claiming voter fraud.

I know you don't know already so you are going to google it; but if you can tell me what is wrong with it I'd find it interesting to see if you can explain away this giant, holly crap magnitude mistake of such epic proportions it would get a legal aide fired, let alone a lawyer your team gave 100 Million dollars to.

 

[X Prime]

Note the defensiveness. Seems my comment struck true.

 

[MadStan]

Note the defensiveness. Seems my comment struck true.

Dude, come to the party or get lost.

Here is the data of fraud from your team. The evidence. The 100 million dollars well spent.

Do you even know what is wrong with that picture - or this one below?