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OrbiterSean Walker / @Psychic Espeon / WCT - Self-described "Final Protagonist of Christory", spree-killer fanboy, encouraged Chris to "channel" spree killer Randy Stair
two seperate groups doing basically the same thing but Praetor was also milking Chris to make merch, they were rivals, Bella was prob in Praetor and it seems that when Sean was killing off the Watchmen he was in cahoots somehow with bella/Praetor, or at least, asking for their help in doxxing Dominik
two seperate groups doing basically the same thing but Praetor was also milking Chris to make merch, they were rivals, Bella was prob in Praetor and it seems that when Sean was killing off the Watchmen he was in cahoots somehow with bella/Praetor, or at least, asking for their help in doxxing Dominik
I need to read the ILJ's Connection to Praetor thread again. In any case, WTC generally seems obsessed with keeping Chris tethered to himself above all else and I guess Watchmen was his way of doing that for a while and then Praetor was once he turned heel on Watchmen.
I need to read the ILJ's Connection to Praetor thread again. In any case, WTC generally seems obsessed with keeping Chris tethered to himself above all else and I guess Watchmen was his way of doing that for a while and then Praetor was once he turned heel on Watchmen.
two seperate groups doing basically the same thing but Praetor was also milking Chris to make merch, they were rivals, Bella was prob in Praetor and it seems that when Sean was killing off the Watchmen he was in cahoots somehow with bella/Praetor, or at least, asking for their help in doxxing Dominik
Hey @i am cancer do you know who WeisGuy was in the Discord chat? Or have any information that could lead to this user who named themselves after the Weis supermarket that Randy Stair murder-suicided in?
Also, WCT and the deleted user are congratulating WeissGuy on a "good stream" and having given WCT some good advice...
I searched for "randy stair stream" on youtube, this convo is on 10/3/19, and the stream nearest to that date is DeadwingDork's on 9/9/19
BUT I did a little digging and found this archive of WCT's youtube channel which lead me to evidence of a stream WCT recorded on 10/2/2019 [archive w dead video] [link to unavailable privated video], which would track with the screenshots that @i am cancer shared of the conversation about a stream taking place between WeisGuy and WCT on 10/3/19 entitled The State of Ember's Ghost Squad & Talking About Nazi Warbled (LIVE)
The stream:
WeisGuy referencing the stream:
More to the point of laughing at Sean Walker, while I was looking around I also found a pathetic bit of Watchmen fuckery that relates to the conversation from 9/26/19 about Ben Saint, in the form of a video called
Ben Saint gets EPICALLY TROLLED by WEEN CWC "DEFENDERS"
The conversation in the discord screenshots takes place on 9/26/19, a few days before this on 9/23/19 @The American Hedgehog made this comment in the Random Chris Updates thread, announcing that Chris had joined Ben Saint's discord channel. So naturally, Ben Saint is a topic of conversation in the "Sockness cancels his visit" thread.
On 9/23/19, the same day that Chris was reported to have joined Ben Saint's discord, Ben was streaming on Twitch while drawing and this message from our old friend MKR appears in the sidebar chat:
After some back and forth, Ben Saint has a moment of lucidity saying “my gut says that this seems really stupid and I think I’m being trolled. I have a feeling that something stupid is about to happen.” And it does. Ben joins a discord voice chat with MKR and the PAINFULLY AWKWARD 23 minutes of faggotry that ensues is reproduced for posterity in its own video called Ben Saint gets EPICALLY TROLLED by WEEN CWC "DEFENDERS"
At 0:13 Ben Saint reads aloud from the Discord messages he just got:
"I'm 'numbah three' and... *laughs* and I'm here on behalf of Kiwi Farms to say please do not engage with Chris-Chan. He needs friends. It's not cool to be Idea Guy 2.0, those last ones didn't fare well in their endeavor... I noticed... what? I noticed you're in the 'Morons who talk about Chris' thread, (I'm not in that thread, I've never posted on Kiwi Farms,) and now you've 'pozloaded my negholep thing' ...I don't know what that means... Um. Okay."
And Ben Saint, of all people, nearly dies of second-hand embarrassment MKR and 3-4 other members of the Watchmen invite him to a voice call.
The gist of this extremely retarded situation is that the Watchmen saw the news of Chris joining Ben Saint's discord server and read KF commenters sperging of Ben Saint possibly being a new Idea Guy, and trying to start a "Slime Saga" via his and Chris' proposed crossover comic. They used the KF search function and found the first (and probably only at the time of this call) mention of Ben Saint in the 'Morons who talk about Chris on Youtube" thread. Seeing that Ben was on stream, they joined his discord and messaged him posing as emissaries from the farms and looking to... I guess scare him or something?
They then spend 20 minutes being extremely fucking retarded while Ben Saint remains extremely confused and laughs in all their faces and the chat goofs on them. It's seriously worth the time to listen to it if you need a good laugh, I cannot encourage you enough. It's weird to see Ben Saint be the LEAST ween-y in a situation.
My favorite quote from one of the Watchmen in the voice call:
“It’s not about fighting, it's about letting anybody who tries to get to close to Chris slash Christine… It’s about letting them know what the rules are.”
The only voice I can pin down for certain in this clip is MKR, who identifies herself clearly to Ben. There are a few male voices in play, and I don't want to speak too soon as far as identifying them. I would like to call your attention to about 8:20 where we hear two different male voices, one of which could be WCT.
P.S. Would someone be a dear and archive the videos for me? I'm having trouble with that.
I don’t. WCT dm’d me like 2 years on here (under the Neko name) ago asking if I’d like to co-host or whatever a live stream of his going over the new faces of EGS and all the dumb shit they’ve been up to. I figured sure. Afterwards there was a “vetting call” with him and his friends. That’s where those discord messages come from. The call didn’t last long and I genuinely haven’t even logged into that account since.
I haven’t spoken to him in 2 years and I have nothing to do any CWC groups.
I don’t. WCT dm’d me like 2 years on here (under the Neko name) ago asking if I’d like to co-host or whatever a live stream of his going over the new faces of EGS and all the dumb shit they’ve been up to. I figured sure. Afterwards there was a “vetting call” with him and his friends. That’s where those discord messages come from. The call didn’t last long and I genuinely haven’t even logged into that account since.
I haven’t spoken to him in 2 years and I have nothing to do any CWC groups.
I don’t. WCT dm’d me like 2 years on here (under the Neko name) ago asking if I’d like to co-host or whatever a live stream of his going over the new faces of EGS and all the dumb shit they’ve been up to. I figured sure. Afterwards there was a “vetting call” with him and his friends. That’s where those discord messages come from. The call didn’t last long and I genuinely haven’t even logged into that account since.
I haven’t spoken to him in 2 years and I have nothing to do any CWC groups.
I was more interested in the “new generation” of EGS. I think he wanted to ride the coat tails of DeadwingDork since he did a similar stream the month prior and asked the guy who posted a lot of the screencaps DWD used to go into the details and explain things. Had it not been for that stream, we literally would’ve never crossed paths. The EGS group I stumbled upon by complete accident and it just became a rabbit hole of people encouraging each other to an hero or posting how much they hate everyone else and want to kill them.
I was more interested in the “new generation” of EGS. I think he wanted to ride the coat tails of DeadwingDork since he did a similar stream the month prior and asked the guy who posted a lot of the screencaps DWD used to go into the details and explain things. Had it not been for that stream, we literally would’ve never crossed paths. The EGS group I stumbled upon by complete accident and it just became a rabbit hole of people encouraging each other to an hero or posting how much they hate everyone else and want to kill them.
I still don't know who @WeisGuy is or if he has anything to do with anything, so I'm going to put the stuff I found on this topic under a spoiler:
BUT I did a little digging and found this archive of WCT's youtube channel which lead me to evidence of a stream WCT recorded on 10/2/2019 [archive w dead video] [link to unavailable privated video], which would track with the screenshots that @i am cancer shared of the conversation about a stream taking place between WeisGuy and WCT on 10/3/19 entitled The State of Ember's Ghost Squad & Talking About Nazi Warbled (LIVE)
More to the point of laughing at Sean Walker, while I was looking around I also found a pathetic bit of Watchmen fuckery that relates to the conversation from 9/26/19 about Ben Saint, in the form of a video called
Ben Saint gets EPICALLY TROLLED by WEEN CWC "DEFENDERS"
On 9/23/19, the same day that Chris was reported to have joined Ben Saint's discord, Ben was streaming on Twitch while drawing and this message from our old friend MKR appears in the sidebar chat:
After some back and forth, Ben Saint has a moment of lucidity saying “my gut says that this seems really stupid and I think I’m being trolled. I have a feeling that something stupid is about to happen.” And it does. Ben joins a discord voice chat with MKR and the PAINFULLY AWKWARD 23 minutes of faggotry that ensues is reproduced for posterity in its own video called Ben Saint gets EPICALLY TROLLED by WEEN CWC "DEFENDERS"
At 0:13 Ben Saint reads aloud from the Discord messages he just got:
And Ben Saint, of all people, nearly dies of second-hand embarrassment MKR and 3-4 other members of the Watchmen invite him to a voice call.
The gist of this extremely retarded situation is that the Watchmen saw the news of Chris joining Ben Saint's discord server and read KF commenters sperging of Ben Saint possibly being a new Idea Guy, and trying to start a "Slime Saga" via his and Chris' proposed crossover comic. They used the KF search function and found the first (and probably only at the time of this call) mention of Ben Saint in the 'Morons who talk about Chris on Youtube" thread. Seeing that Ben was on stream, they joined his discord and messaged him posing as emissaries from the farms and looking to... I guess scare him or something?
They then spend 20 minutes being extremely fucking retarded while Ben Saint remains extremely confused and laughs in all their faces and the chat goofs on them. It's seriously worth the time to listen to it if you need a good laugh, I cannot encourage you enough. It's weird to see Ben Saint be the LEAST ween-y in a situation.
My favorite quote from one of the Watchmen in the voice call:
The only voice I can pin down for certain in this clip is MKR, who identifies herself clearly to Ben. There are a few male voices in play, and I don't want to speak too soon as far as identifying them. I would like to call your attention to about 8:20 where we hear two different male voices, one of which could be WCT.
I remember this pissing me off at the time. We get a lot of flack for being autistic as fuck and we deserve most of it, but for fucks sake don't go claiming to speak for all of us, and make us look worse doing so. Especially not when your telling people how to act, and setting rules like we all took a vote and agreed on it.
I literally don't know or remember. But I did receive email notifications from the server for about 3 months steady. Like these. I can take some time to go through and compile them. There's very little of that vetting chat, but you can see it was a point to not mention CWC in it for some reason:
Hi everyone, I've finally updated the OP. spent a better part of today rewriting it, I hope it's alright. Fuck man, so many people have helped make this possible, I love you all. While writing this comment I already noticed swome stuff I missed, so I'm gonna update it again lol, but yeah. New OP. I didn't add the stuff in the latest pages about wiseguy, because to be honest I don't understand it fully yet, but yeah. Thanks
Hi everyone, I've finally updated the OP. spent a better part of today rewriting it, I hope it's alright. Fuck man, so many people have helped make this possible, I love you all. While writing this comment I already noticed swome stuff I missed, so I'm gonna update it again lol, but yeah. New OP. I didn't add the stuff in the latest pages about wiseguy, because to be honest I don't understand it fully yet, but yeah. Thanks
to summarise, afaik (and correct me if I'm wrong here, @WeisGuy)
Weisguy is just a user who crossed paths with WCT over the topic of Randy Stair and Ember's Ghost Squad. Weisguy had contributed a lot of interesting information to the Randy Stair thread, especially on the topic of the EGS fandom that sprung up after Randy's murder-suicide.
Sometime in 2019 WCT noticed Weisguy in that thread, got in contact with him, and invited him to do a stream about Randy Stair and EGS, afterwards he was also invited to the WildCat Productions discord as any collaborator would be.
The collaboration with Weisguy did not blossom into a friendship, mostly because they ended up having little in common. WCT was trying to make Randy himself into a Chris-chan like figure while Weisguy was fascinated with the active fandom that had sprung up around Randy's work. They stopped conversing on the regular.
I took note of Weisguy's contributions while reading the Randy Stair thread looking for WCT and Chris-related info, and was suspicious at first due to WCT and his crowd's penchant for sockpuppets. When the username Weisguy showed up in some of the discord screens upthread, I noticed and did some extra digging.
For all my efforts checking out Weisguy, he seems to be unrelated to WCT's shadiness and unrelated to anything concerning Bella Janke or CWC.
Thankfully, what I found does help us construct a timeline of WCT's Randy Stair obsession. Weisguy's cordial participation in this thread has also been informational so far and he's based for that.
Hi everyone, I've finally updated the OP. spent a better part of today rewriting it, I hope it's alright. Fuck man, so many people have helped make this possible, I love you all. While writing this comment I already noticed swome stuff I missed, so I'm gonna update it again lol, but yeah. New OP. I didn't add the stuff in the latest pages about wiseguy, because to be honest I don't understand it fully yet, but yeah. Thanks
Hi everyone, I've finally updated the OP. spent a better part of today rewriting it, I hope it's alright. Fuck man, so many people have helped make this possible, I love you all. While writing this comment I already noticed swome stuff I missed, so I'm gonna update it again lol, but yeah. New OP. I didn't add the stuff in the latest pages about wiseguy, because to be honest I don't understand it fully yet, but yeah. Thanks
Great stuff! There's a lot of lore in this spinoff and a lot of plot holes yet to be explained. I look forward to learning more and I know the OP is going to help people to do that by setting forth where we are and where to start.
