The 'punitive expedition' narrative is a CCP cope. The border towns they took required too much time and men to take from the Vietnamese. By the time they left, the Khmer Rouge were still out on their asses and the Slopes still held Cambodia.
Could the CCP have taken Hanoi? Probably, but not without losing more men than they cared to and getting bogged down in a counterinsurgency. Based on their 'performance' in the 'war', Deng Xiaopeng spent the next few years modernizing the PLA.
I'll agree it was a tactical success (NVA got blown the fuck out as is their style) but a strategic failure (Pol Pot still got wrecked, PLA performed like you'd expect a commie political peasant army to perform, Vietnam didn't suffer any lasting harm).
I mean both sides lost about equal number of troops (depending on who you believe), but China didn't even miss their losses. China could have literally put a soldier on every man, woman, and child in Vietnam if they had wanted to invade and weren't concerned about Soviet Senpai.
The Vietnamese took a beating and also their pound of flesh from the Chinese.
They performed about as well as they did in Korea if your remove the soviet logisitics.
I mean, imagine getting BTFO by soviet battle field supply.
The difference is taking a pound of flesh from China was like taking a pound of flesh from a subject of My 600 Lb life.
The Chinese response was a little more nuiances then ajust "Oh shit, these other rice farmers fucked our shit up". Specifically they realized that the human tide & inflitration tactics they'd managed to use in Korea to good effect didn't work as well after 20 years of weapons development and against people who didn't give a fuck about civilians.
They also learned their logistics were shit, which meant the Chinese were less concerned about their ability to hold off a Soviet advance but very concerned about their ability to be able to counter attack and punish Russia should the USSR decide to start playing games. It was more a wake up call to just exactly how much of their war planning more or less depended on the Soviets to organize and transport supplies, and they needed to build their own quartermaster core if they hoped to be able to be a credible threat to the USSR.
Delaying the withdrawal was both a good idea and a risky one. I don’t think any withdrawal was going to be smooth from Afghanistan. If the ANA didn’t fight for Kabul now, they wouldn’t have fought for it then. There were and are lots of mistakes made with this whole process, which compound on mistakes made months, years, and decades previously. It’s a massive convoluted mess of a conflict and I don’t think that Afghanistan will be peaceful any time soon. If that comes out as simping for Biden, fine. I don’t feel any one mistake in any of this can be pointed at as the worst fuck up of all time in Afghanistan. There’s so many moving parts in all of this that it’ll take time before any objective take on much of this can be done. Opinions are opinions.
The idea is simple. The main campaign season in Afghanistan starts around May. With the existing “don’t attack us” agreement already in place, we cuck the Taliban out of various strategic positions over a few months and make it harder for them to press their advantage as we’re drawing down. The US footprint by this point in country is pretty small by this point but it’s still enough to keep places out of their hands we don’t want them to have before we turn it over to the ANA. This burns away the time the Taliban have to really take crucial points of the country and (hopefully) means the Afghan government can establish a hold as the fighting winds down for the year, or at least means we can remove more people from the country. We did - lots of contractors left with the US military.
Dude I admire the dedication to physical fitness, but you need to find a new exercise routine besides carrying water for Sleepy Joe.
Biden fucked up. Yes, there is no guarantee that the withdraw would have been anything other than a complete Taliban steam roller, but it could have been a steam roller with a skeleton crew at the embassy and a few thousand fewer american cits. Biden didn't do anything to even try to mitigate the expected consequences of a deal he willfully broke and had no intentions of following because Muh Optics.
Biden didn't dial down embassy staffing until everything imploded because of state department hubris. This complete rejection of reality by the retards running our over seas civilian presence is not unique to Biden administration, but it happened on his watch with his secretary of state at the helm, so this one IS on him.
No advisories or travel warnings issues to people in country. Biden's administration played a stupid fucking game and won a really stupid prize, because they played the game with no thought of the consequences. He presided over an extreme fuck up and as he's let us know repeatedly when campaigning against Orange Man Bad, all these things are the responsibility of the President.
Well yeah that and half of them die from simple ailments that could be treated....tooth infections for example.
No different than our ancestors. My Pee-Paw had 11 brothers and sisters in the 1930's. Turns out People without distractions and entertainment tend to have alot of sex
Not just lack of entertainment. There wasn't a lot of reliable contraceptives.
I know some faggot will go "But muh sheepskin" having never actually tried to use one of the fuckers. They were expensive, you had to clean them, and if you think a condom is like a shower in a raincoat my dude unless you have one of the masterwork exemplars, this is like taking a shower but you're in a raincoat while standing outside of the bathroom.
The latex condom is a huge game changer for, most notably western civilization in ways that not even Prolifers fully grasp. "You can have sex with a girl reliably and not knock her up" is a brand new innovation.
This is what a lot of muh wimmin movements don't get, and why while SEA is infamous for Manlove Thursday and "women for children, boy are for pleasure" most every culture has some form of "Look me and bros get together to suck each other off & do a little manly buttfucking, but not in a GAY way like those fags at the fag club".
Well newfag let me explain. You faggots are mixing up culture with politics, and have been for a long time to the point where they’re synonymous for you. They aren’t the same. American culture like that of a lot of other colonial nations has been focused around regional identities. Culture is a set of shared stories, history, thought, expression, food, and (though this can vary in importance) language. Culture by its nature is changing all the time as people move around and share all these different things with one another. Sometimes an aspect of a culture takes over, and cultures steal from each other all the time. “Cultural appropriation” is fucking bullshit.
The thirteen colonies really didn’t have a concrete shared culture and while they agreed politically with one another on the concepts of independence and an enlightenment government, the idea of being an “American” didn’t really exist how you’d see it now, no matter how much some people want to pretend the founding fathers were paragons of culture. Every colony was founded for different reasons by different people in different areas, and their economies and shared experiences were, well, limited and didn’t interact as much. As time went on, you started to see more distinct flavors of culture pop up on a more regional level as the country expanded. Frontier life for example, was different than that on the coast and life in the north and south could and was very different. Within these regions some areas also absorbed in other cultures, like the French and Spanish influence in the south in various areas, the immigrant influx to the north and into the west, and so on.
This has established a variety of regional cultures that still hang around with their own linguistic twists and twangs. Culturally though a truly American identity has its roots as the industrial revolution starts to set in. Nationalism as an idea is in vogue, and as the country gets older, the more the various parts interact with one another and more and more bits get exchanged and the more we all felt we had things in common beyond sharing a general geographical area defined by lines on a map. Some parts of the culture of different regions spread a bit or grow more prominent, others fade away, but the thing that starts to unify the American culture is mass media and fast transport. I cannot stress enough how much mass media has effected the idea of American culture. Art, information, stories, etc are spread around faster than ever, giving everyone a larger shared pool of experiences. The American cultural umbrella also takes in lots of bits of foreign culture (mostly holidays, food, and some bits of language) and adds it as part of regional cultures and spreads it around. Today, you can easily find the life of your average person in say, New York, features many of the same experiences that someone living in San Diego would find on a daily basis. Cars, traffic, fast food joints, media, slang, furnishings, clothing, all of it is more similar now than it has ever been before in American history. Regional cultural differences still exist but compared to the 50’s? They’re not as prominent and mostly come down to accents.
This is a lot of words to call the Irish niggers, but I respect you for having the courage to post about the Eternal Mick.
