UK Parliament holds Joe Biden in contempt over Afghanistan

MPs and peers unite to condemn ‘dishonour’ of US president’s withdrawal and his criticism of Afghan troops left behind to face Taliban

Joe Biden's handling of the Afghanistan withdrawal was condemned as "catastrophic" and "shameful" on Wednesday as the Houses of Parliament delivered an unprecedented rebuke to a US president.
MPs and peers from across the political spectrum, including Boris Johnson, put some blame for the Taliban's takeover and the chaos that followed on Britain's closest ally.
Mr Biden was accused of "throwing us and everybody else to the fire" by pulling out US troops, and was called "dishonourable" for criticising Afghan forces for not having the will to fight.
Former defence chiefs who led British troops in the Middle East were among those to speak out, while there were warnings that the West's withdrawal would embolden Russia and China.
The interventions mark a deterioration in UK-US relations almost exactly 20 years after Britain joined America in invading Afghanistan to root out terrorism after the September 11 attacks.
But it was not just Mr Biden who faced criticism, with Mr Johnson and his ministers told they had overseen the worst disaster in British foreign policy for 65 years.
The Prime Minister was accused of not doing enough to rally allies to support Afghanistan as the US departure became apparent, including by his predecessor, Theresa May.

Wednesday's debate marked the first time Parliament has sat as normal in more than a year, as MPs and peers crammed into the chambers with Covid social distancing rules gone.
Mr Johnson began by arguing that America's decision to withdraw troops from Afghanistan had forced Britain's hand, saying it was an "illusion" to think other allies wanted to step in to keep the peace.
"The West could not continue this US-led mission – a mission conceived and executed in support and defence of America – without American logistics, without US air power and without American might," the Prime Minister said in a clear swipe at Washington.
MPs from all sides of the Commons were forceful in their criticism. Sir Keir Starmer, the Labour leader, said: "The US is, of course, an important ally, but to overlook the fighting of the Afghan troops and forces, and the fact that they have been at the forefront of that fighting in recent years, is wrong."
Sir Ed Davey, the Liberal Democrat leader, said: "The American decision to withdraw was not just a mistake – it was an avoidable mistake, from President Trump's flawed deal with the Taliban to President Biden's decision to proceed, and to proceed in such a disastrous way."
Tom Tugendhat, the Tory chairman of the foreign affairs committee, who fought alongside Afghans as a British soldier, called out Mr Biden's criticism of the Afghan army.
"To see their commander in chief call into question the courage of men I fought with, to claim that they ran, is shameful," he said, to murmurs of approval from other MPs.

Labour MP Chris Bryant called Mr Biden's remarks about Afghan soldiers "some of the most shameful comments ever from an American president".
Khalid Mahmood, a Labour MP and former defence minister, said: "The Biden government have just come in and, without looking at what is happening on the ground, have taken a unilateral decision, throwing us and everybody else to the fire."
Other MPs who served as soldiers also rounded on Mr Biden. Iain Duncan Smith, a former Tory leader, called his comments "shameful", while Labour MP Dan Jarvis described them as "particularly distasteful and dishonouring". Tobias Ellwood, a former veterans' minister, said the US withdrawal was "absolutely the wrong call".
Leading Conservatives in the Lords also made clear their disapproval. Lord Hammond, a former foreign secretary, said: "When I listen to the US president, I cannot help reaching the conclusion that this decision was made out of a sense of political tidy-mindedness – we need to close a file; we need to draw a line; it has gone on for too long."
Lord Howard, another former Tory leader, said Mr Biden's withdrawal "is, and will be seen by history as, a catastrophic mistake which may well prove to be the defining legacy of his presidency".

The heated rhetoric has thrust the state of the "special relationship" and the Biden-Johnson partnership into the spotlight. The Telegraph understands Mr Johnson had been attempting to get Mr Biden on the phone to discuss Kabul falling from Monday morning. The pair eventually talked at close to 10pm on Tuesday.
On Wednesday, General Sir Nick Carter, the head of the Armed Forces, accused the US of "shattering" the morale of Afghan troops when they stopped air strikes.
A UK defence source insisted the UK and US military were continuing to work closely at Kabul airport in a race against time under way to evacuate people with the Taliban nearby. However, there is concern amongst some in government that the US might soon pull out of the airport, according to Whitehall sources.
Philip Reeker, America's acting ambassador, went into Downing Street for talks with Will Gelling, Mr Johnson's foreign policy adviser.
While the day of debate was playing out in Westminster after Parliament was recalled from its summer recess, the Taliban was tightening its grip on Afghanistan. Militants shot dead at least three people after protesters pulled down the group's banner and raised the Afghan national flag in its place.

The Taliban was also tightly controlling which Afghans could enter Kabul airport to escape, leading to footage of girls locked out and begging to be helped by Western forces.
Senior former UK defence figures criticised Mr Biden, with Lord Dannatt, the former head of the British Army, saying: "The manner and timing of the Afghan collapse is the direct result of President Biden's decision to withdraw all US forces from Afghanistan by the 20th anniversary of 9/11.
"At a stroke, he has undermined the patient and painstaking work of the last five, 10, 15 years to build up governance in Afghanistan, develop its economy, transform its civil society and build up its security forces. The people had a glimpse of a better life – but that has been torn away."
Lord Houghton of Richmond, a former chief of the defence staff, said: "I think the American decision to withdraw military support was a dreadful one, and the resulting chaos should be of no surprise."
Mr Johnson came in for repeated criticism for his handling of the Afghanistan withdrawl, including by Mrs May.
She said: "In July of this year, both President Biden and my Right Honourable friend the Prime Minister indicated that they did not think that the Taliban were ready or able to take over control of the country

"Was our intelligence really so poor? Was our understanding of the Afghan government so weak? Was our knowledge of the position on the ground so inadequate? Did we really believe that, or did we just feel that we had to follow the United States and hope that, on a wing and a prayer, it would be all right on the night?
"We boast about global Britain, but where is global Britain on the streets of Kabul? A successful foreign policy strategy will be judged by our deeds, not by our words."
Mr Johnson talked to Mario Draghi, the Italian prime minister, on Wednesday as he pushed world leaders for a unified position on the new Taliban regime. Foreign ministers from the G7 group of nations will hold talks on Afghanistan on Thursday.
The UK had evacuated around 1,200 people from Kabul on military flights as of Wednesday morning. Around 300 were UK nationals and 900 were Afghans and others who had helped the UK's mission in the country.

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At least in the good old days, bullets were thrown by slings, which took years to get really good at.

A Balearic slinger kills you, and as you lay dying you can at least know that it was done by a real artist.
The most truly artful slingers chiseled witty insults on their projectiles to fully assert dominance over their victims. I will say its a shame its hard to do that with a modern-day round given their size.
So Wandering Jew then, gotcha.
Ay gevalt, good luck tryin' to Torquemada anything!
 
Americans pulling out in this retarded fashion makes me have zero hope in their involvement in our country and how they'll behave if they decide to pull out here too.

One unironic hope would be that Hunter Biden is just in too deep here. :D
 
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Americans pulling out in this retarded fashion makes me have zero hope in their involvement in our country and how they'll behave if they decide to pull out here too.

One unironic hope would be that Hunter Biden is just in too deep here. :biggrin:
Are you Ukrainian?
 
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America, do you want rid of Biden or not?

Your MSM won't do shit against him, where ours and our government, will. Think about it, the internal pressure on Biden will never be as great as the external pressure on America. If you whole nation looks like a bunch of clowns and an international laughing stock, the whole of America will rally to get rid of Biden.

Those in this thread that think there's only America in Afghanistan, and from 2001 ONLY America has carried the weight, don't be so stupid. What did happen, is the MIC ignored international advice on how to operate in Afghanistan, making it inevitable that the Taliban would take-over the country the second the west left. They did this because the MIC wanted their forever war.

Your country should see this crisis as an opportunity. Back the Brits who want Biden gone, who want the MIC off of the world stage and who want America to return to it's full power (which it had only 9 months ago!).

It's really easy to do. What's the most touchy subject in the history of America? The founding of America. If you guys back the Crown on this one, Biden will be gone by Monday. Nothing tells the American government they've fucked up more than their population saying "The Brits are right on this one". Backing the Crown over the Capitol....oooooffft level: 11
 
America, do you want rid of Biden or not?

Your MSM won't do shit against him, where ours and our government, will. Think about it, the internal pressure on Biden will never be as great as the external pressure on America. If you whole nation looks like a bunch of clowns and an international laughing stock, the whole of America will rally to get rid of Biden.

Those in this thread that think there's only America in Afghanistan, and from 2001 ONLY America has carried the weight, don't be so stupid. What did happen, is the MIC ignored international advice on how to operate in Afghanistan, making it inevitable that the Taliban would take-over the country the second the west left. They did this because the MIC wanted their forever war.

Your country should see this crisis as an opportunity. Back the Brits who want Biden gone, who want the MIC off of the world stage and who want America to return to it's full power (which it had only 9 months ago!).

It's really easy to do. What's the most touchy subject in the history of America? The founding of America. If you guys back the Crown on this one, Biden will be gone by Monday. Nothing tells the American government they've fucked up more than their population saying "The Brits are right on this one". Backing the Crown over the Capitol....oooooffft level: 11
Oh boy, I can't wait to replace Biden with Kamala. Oh gee I better get down on my knees and suck crusty limey cock, please sir I'd like to get out of the frying pan.
 
God damn it now I gotta defend Biden.

Fuck off Britbongs, we afghanistaned you 200 years ago, go Watch some Syrians rape your kids.
Former Brits fought Brits and won (with the help of France whose King practically bankrupted his nation supplying you guys with ships). You were losing to the Brits at first.

Also, Britain is 80% White. America has dipped below 60% White. We've all seen how Blacks own you..
 
I'm amazed by the reaction of the Americans in here, thought you lot would be all over this and using it as justification for how right you all were about Biden and the democrats all along. The fact us 'cucked' Brits are willing to come out and so openly shit all over you yanks a the moments is huge, for the first time in as long as i can remember we're basically saying the special relationship is not really worth it for us.

Even with Trump at his most bonkers and all the pressure from the MSM nothing even close to this ever happened.
 
Even with Trump at his most bonkers and all the pressure from the MSM nothing even close to this ever happened.
Watch how more retards come in and REEEEEE about the Brits.

Maybe yanks should really fuck off for a century and self-fellate themselves with them blackies and brownies.

Make America Wild Again. By the time the century is over, we'll have to recolonize you.
 
In all fairness to the Yanks, more than one have managed to leave, this time, so one isn't always in a position to pass comment, let alone criticize. Would be happy to have that in the W column...
 
How's that elite force in Kabul working out for you? Too busy listening to demented mans' orders?

Leave it to the professionals, son.
I honestly don't know what on Earth you're talking about at this point.

I'm amazed by the reaction of the Americans in here, thought you lot would be all over this and using it as justification for how right you all were about Biden and the democrats all along. The fact us 'cucked' Brits are willing to come out and so openly shit all over you yanks a the moments is huge, for the first time in as long as i can remember we're basically saying the special relationship is not really worth it for us.

Even with Trump at his most bonkers and all the pressure from the MSM nothing even close to this ever happened.
You're amazed that people don't like foreigners criticizing their country, right or not? I guess Britain really is dead as a nation.
 
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