Cultcow Russell Greer / Mr. Green / @ just_some_dude_named_russell29 / A Safer Nevada PAC - Swift-Obsessed Sex Pest, Convicted of E-Stalking, "Eggshell Skull Plaintiff" Pro Se Litigant, Homeless, aspiring brothel owner

[FreeCandyVan]

So someone who isn’t a student or staff is allowed to hang around on their property without permission?

Yes. Many weird people do so daily. They don't have ID cards or whatever to allow them into secured buildings, but they're fully allowed to be on the public campus. They're publicly funded campuses. It would be like telling someone they're not allowed to walk down Main street unless they lived in a house on it.

Mini-PL, I worked for a uni for some years, and onboarding training when you're hired involves specifically learning that you are NOT allowed to take any action against these people. Some of them are there purely to annoy someone into punching them, have an accomplice video recording everything nearby, and make a living based on lawsuits from doing so. The court system aggressively enforces their right to be on campus whether anyone likes it or not.

Edit ^^^ those preachers are largely actively attempting to get punched and are who I was referring to

 

[DrJonesHat]

Yes. Many weird people do so daily. They don't have ID cards or whatever to allow them into secured buildings, but they're fully allowed to be on the public campus. They're publicly funded campuses. It would be like telling someone they're not allowed to walk down Main street unless they lived in a house on it.

Mini-PL, I worked for a uni for some years, and onboarding training when you're hired involves specifically learning that you are NOT allowed to take any action against these people. Some of them are there purely to annoy someone into punching them, have an accomplice video recording everything nearby, and make a living based on lawsuits from doing so. The court system aggressively enforces their right to be on campus whether anyone likes it or not.

Edit ^^^ those preachers are largely actively attempting to get punched and are who I was referring to

We had preachers all the time, and the local Church of Satan set up camp right next to them and started extolling the virtues of satanism, and one day the preacher tried to have them arrested because he thought satanism was illegal. When he was told it wasn't, and they had as much right to be there as he did, he stormed off campus in a huff. Mission accomplished.

Unlikely, but I think it'd be funny if another pro-decriminalization group came onto campus and starting soliciting support. Russ would probably get pissed because HE is pushing for decriminalization, no one else is allowed!

 

[Phil Ken Sebben]

Is a public university seriously public property? So I (not being a student or staff) could go and have a picnic on their grounds every day if I wanted to, and couldn’t be booted out unless I actively harassed someone?

That sounds odd.

You can be on campus if you're not a student. That's always been a thing. But I would think that if you showed up there every single day and used their facilities you might have somebody come up to you and ask you what you're doing there.

I could be wrong but in the times I've been on campus when I wasn't a student I've never had a problem.

 

[Sexy Senior Citizen]

I love it that he still can't decide if it's his or their campaign.

Oh, he's already decided: it's his campaign. He just lets the proverbial mask slip from time to time.

 

[Meredith Swift]

So someone who isn’t a student or staff is allowed to hang around on their property without permission?

Where I currently live, 99.9% of universities are public. People who live nearby will walk their dogs on the grounds, might grab a coffee from the Starbucks in one of the buildings, sit on a bench near some beautiful trees and read, etc. It's not anymore weird than doing those things in a public park, I shouldn't think.

 

[AbraCadaver]

I hope a bunch of girls had a fundraising bikini car wash right next to him and shook their asses temptingly, to borrow a phrase from Russ.

Like a superheated wind slamming up against an icy cold front, I want to see what happens when his misogynistic rage barrels full-speed into his horniness in public. I bet the head-tightening would be audible from a block away.

 

[DrJonesHat]

I hope a bunch of girls had a fundraising bikini car wash right next to him and shook their asses temptingly, to borrow a phrase from Russ.

Like a superheated wind slamming up against an icy cold front, I want to see what happens when his misogynistic rage barrels full-speed into his horniness in public. I bet the head-tightening would be audible from a block away.

Oh, he'd hobble over and ask how much for sex and get kicked off campus, all the while protesting they can't kick him out.

Where I currently live, 99.9% of universities are public. People who live nearby will walk their dogs on the grounds, might grab a coffee from the Starbucks in one of the buildings, sit on a bench near some beautiful trees and read, etc. It's not anymore weird than doing those things in a public park, I shouldn't think.

I used to work across the street from a college, and I'd walk over and eat at their cafeteria rather than drive anywhere.

I wonder if Russ actually managed to make it through the day without getting kicked out.

 

[AbraCadaver]

Oh, he'd hobble over and ask how much for sex and get kicked off campus, all the while protesting they can't kick him out.

“I GUESS THIS CAMPUS HATES THE DISABLED,” he’d rage online while trying to find the school’s yelp page. Also, those girls were discriminating against cool studly guys who don’t have cars. How is he supposed to use their services? He slumped over and asked for the Car Wash Experience package, expecting the women to strip him down and soap him up with their tits.

The bikinis were false advertising! They weren’t even trying to sell sex! Duty to warn! Bigots! REEEEEEE!

 

[Bridgeburner]

He's "reaching out" at the local college.

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Love the slurp stains on his mask.

 

[Bob Loblaw]

He might also get treated as a pet idiot by someone or a group of people who think he's hilarious. He will assume someone finally sees his brilliance when in fact they are laughing at him.

 

[AnOminous]

Just what every college campus needs during its first week- A smelly Greenpeace guy with dreads, a evangelical preacher with a huge dead fetus poster, a Hare Krishna dancing in the middle of the walk way, and a greasy sex pest slurping about legalizing prostitution.

University Policies - University of Nevada, Las Vegas - Acalog ACMS™

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catalog.unlv.edu

Use of University Facilities

University facilities including campus grounds, are provided primarily for the support of the regular educational functions of the university and the activities necessary for the support of these functions. The university’s functions take precedence over any other activities in the use of university facilities.

Freedom to speak and to hear will be maintained for students, faculty, and staff, and university policies and procedures will be used to provide a full and frank exchange of ideas. An effort will be made to allow a balanced program of speakers and ideas. An invitation to speak at the university does not imply that the university endorses the philosophy or ideas presented by the speaker.


Fundraising

No individual or organization may sell, solicit, or peddle on university property without permission nor may funds be solicited from alumni of the university without initial permission of the Vice President for University and Community Relations and final approval of the president.

Any fund-raising efforts by student organizations off campus must be approved by the Vice President for Student Life.

University facilities may not be used for the purpose of raising monies to aid projects not related to some authorized activity of the university or of university groups, and no efforts at conversion and solicitation by uninvited non-campus groups or individuals will be permitted on campus.


Handbills and Posters

The university campus is maintained for the orderly operation of the school. Other uses are permitted only when they will not interfere with the normal functions of the university. The campus is governed by a university sign policy regarding distribution and posting of handbills and other printed materials. The Student Union has separate signage policies involving its spaces and functions.

Note there is absolutely no indication they have opened their campus to use by randos from outside the university. Creepy weirdoes smelling up the place like Russhole will be told to leave if they creep people out.

Is a public university seriously public property? So I (not being a student or staff) could go and have a picnic on their grounds every day if I wanted to, and couldn’t be booted out unless I actively harassed someone?

That sounds odd.

No, it isn't. Some universities do open some part of their campus for free speech use by the public, and if they do, they could conceivably (in some places) get in trouble if they discriminate based on viewpoint. And this university's policy is the campus is for the use of students and faculty, and they have a free speech policy for those students and faculty.

Never mind that Russ would violate some other policy very quickly that would have nothing to do with his speech that by itself would justify ejecting him and ordering him to stay away.

You can be on campus if you're not a student. That's always been a thing. But I would think that if you showed up there every single day and used their facilities you might have somebody come up to you and ask you what you're doing there.

There are universities that are entirely contained in a single building with key card access and they can certainly tell you you're not allowed to be there unless you have business there. Unless they've designated or allowed a part of the campus to be used for speech activities by the general public, they are not obligated to allow access.

If they have done such a thing, they can't discriminate based on viewpoint, but in general, if they haven't allowed access to the general public, for whatever reason, such as sheer impracticality, they're entirely within their rights. What public universities are obligated to do is to respect the free speech rights of students, faculty, and staff, and invitees, such as speakers brought to campus by student groups.

So if UNLV has what is legally considered a "designated public forum," distinguished between a "traditional public forum" like a public park or speaker's corner but serving the same purpose, they couldn't exclude Russ because of his viewpoint. There's a reasonable chance of this, as apparently UNLV has a 330 acre campus, so he wouldn't be in trouble just for being publicly a nut so long as he contained his activities to the parts of the campus designated for such activity.

 

[FreeCandyVan]

University Policies - University of Nevada, Las Vegas - Acalog ACMS™

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catalog.unlv.edu

Note there is absolutely no indication they have opened their campus to use by randos from outside the university. Creepy weirdoes smelling up the place like Russhole will be told to leave if they creep people out.

You're reading that statement incorrectly. The uni is saying that if they have some University-planned event happening somewhere on campus, it takes precedence over a random preacher's impromptu performance. UNLV is a public institution, and as such, people are free to wander that campus' public grounds as much as they'd like and say what they so choose. That includes Russell, for better or worse

 

[HavenlyKingdom]

If I had to bet. He will get thrown out when he starts creepily flirting the students (or if he has already started to do it, when they actually report it), it's Russ we're talking about. He just can't help himself.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

University Policies - University of Nevada, Las Vegas - Acalog ACMS™

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catalog.unlv.edu

Note there is absolutely no indication they have opened their campus to use by randos from outside the university. Creepy weirdoes smelling up the place like Russhole will be told to leave if they creep people out.

You're reading that statement incorrectly. The uni is saying that if they have some University-planned event happening somewhere on campus, it takes precedence over a random preacher's impromptu performance. UNLV is a public institution, and as such, people are free to wander that campus' public grounds as much as they'd like and say what they so choose. That includes Russell, for better or worse

Yep. And for the paperwork, unless it's changed recently. Time place manner restrictions is about it. Otherwise guests can try and preach their nonsense.

https://www.unlv.edu/sites/default/files/page_files/27/AboutUNLV-Policies-SpeechAdvocacyPublicAreas.pdf

 

[Cousin_Larry]

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Pretty sure the kids at UNLV are getting laid without Russ' help. And if they're not, they still don't want to talk to this... thing, about their sex lives.

 

[Constellationzero]

Yep. And for the paperwork, unless it's changed recently. Time place manner restrictions is about it. Otherwise guests can try and preach their nonsense.

https://www.unlv.edu/sites/default/files/page_files/27/AboutUNLV-Policies-SpeechAdvocacyPublicAreas.pdf

Okay, but unless I missed something, this isn't just garden variety freeze peach.
Pipsqueak ain't preachin' fire and brimstone. He ain't passing out da Gideon Bibles. He ain't rambling word salads on flat earth or the moon landing is faked.

By his own fruits shall ye know him. This greasy gourd is soliciting. Not freeze peach. He is the grease slathered sex pest iteration of Vemma and Primerica's rape baby. IDK if he's handing out flyers or whatever, but he's definitely soliciting for volunteers, possible donations in the form of free sweat equity at the business end of his harassing emails and phone calls.
We just don't know for sure exactly what he's "reaching out" with specifically because we aren't there, but I'd bet dollars to donuts, it is straight up soliciting, but I didn't catch anything in that PDF that would cover that.

 

[AnOminous]

You're reading that statement incorrectly. The uni is saying that if they have some University-planned event happening somewhere on campus, it takes precedence over a random preacher's impromptu performance. UNLV is a public institution, and as such, people are free to wander that campus' public grounds as much as they'd like and say what they so choose. That includes Russell, for better or worse

It says nothing about special university events. It says "the normal functioning of the university." I'm not sure where you're getting that. Because it doesn't say that anywhere.

Here's the actual more detailed policy, which does in fact designate some areas for public use:

7.13 Posting, Distribution, and Exhibition of Printed Materials
Office of Media Relations
Flora Dungan Humanities Building (FDH), Room 716
mediarelations@unlv.edu, 895-3102 / FAX 895-4057 /

University-level Media Relations

go.unlv.edu

Inquiries about posting, distribution or exhibition of printed materials on campus should be directed to the Office of Media Relations using the contact information shown above. Posting of signs, fliers, placards, or any similar printed material is prohibited on the UNLV campus, except in the following locations: a. Sites available to members of the campus community and general public:
• Academic mall area – fliers of a political nature or nonprofit nature may be passed by hand in the academic mall area only.
• Lied Library bulletin boards with the permission of the Lied Library Administration and in accord with the library’s posting policy.
• UNLV Student Union bulletin boards with permission of the UNLV Student Union office and in accord with the Student Union posting policy.
• Residence halls’ posters are to be left with the Campus Housing office, which will post them. • Thomas & Mack Center (TMC) with permission of the TMC director’s office and in accord with the TMC posting policy.

So the only area where the general public, including Russhole, may distribute "fliers of a political nature or nonprofit nature" is the academic mall area. He can't just go wandering around areas, even ones generally accessible to the public like the library, and shove grease-stained leaflets in people's faces.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Okay, but unless I missed something, this isn't just garden variety freeze peach.
Pipsqueak ain't preachin' fire and brimstone. He ain't passing out da Gideon Bibles. He ain't rambling word salads on flat earth or the moon landing is faked.

By his own fruits shall ye know him. This greasy gourd is soliciting. Not freeze peach. He is the grease slathered sex pest iteration of Vemma and Primerica's rape baby. IDK if he's handing out flyers or whatever, but he's definitely soliciting for volunteers, possible donations in the form of free sweat equity at the business end of his harassing emails and phone calls.
We just don't know for sure exactly what he's "reaching out" with specifically because we aren't there, but I'd bet dollars to donuts, it is straight up soliciting, but I didn't catch anything in that PDF that would cover that.

Knowing Russ, he may still find himself vamoosed when someone finds an excuse to deep-six the creepy (obviously not a student) old dude from the commons. But solicitation of volunteers or even funding for a political goal certainly involves free speech and 1st Amendment issues, particularly since Citizens United.

I wish we would end up of a recording of him but I have a feeling people will stay away from him and he'll end up just standing around like Chris Chan hoping someone comes up to him.

Alternatively, he's just LARPing again and is treating the campus like he does a the gym- a place to take photos and pretend to be doing something (besides leer at women).

 

[AnOminous]

But solicitation of volunteers or even funding for a political goal certainly involves free speech and 1st Amendment issues, particularly since Citizens United.

It certainly does if he contains it to the designated area and they exclude him not because of his viewpoints but because of his behavior. A university, even a public university, has no obligation whatsoever to provide such a designated area, though. That the overwhelming majority of large state universities choose to do so has more to do with academic tradition than legal obligation. A public university that operates entirely inside of a single building can install keycard access and entirely exclude the public.

In fact, the smaller University of Nevada, Reno campus does exactly that, locking all external doors to buildings so that only students, faculty, staff, or other authorized personnel can enter, citing the need "to maximize the security of the buildings, occupants, and building contents."

Courts also definitely have distinguished between the rights of the general public to access the campuses of public universities, including the outdoor spaces of such a campus, as compared to the rights of the students, faculty, etc. ACLU v. Mote (4th Cir. 2005) (holding that political speaker who was not a student could be restricted from political speech in publicly accessible areas of a public university other than those designated for speech). The case implies that the result might be different if it involved a total ban on all speech rather than a reasonable time, place, or manner restriction.

Just because a public university has parts accessible to the public does not mean you can engage in unlimited public speech in all of them.

 

[Kosher Salt]

By his own fruits shall ye know him. This greasy gourd is soliciting. Not freeze peach. He is the grease slathered sex pest iteration of Vemma and Primerica's rape baby. IDK if he's handing out flyers or whatever, but he's definitely soliciting for volunteers, possible donations in the form of free sweat equity at the business end of his harassing emails and phone calls.

The law on peddling/soliciting applies to selling goods or services, so wouldn't apply to him. I think his activity would probably violate the university's rule against fundraising though, unless he got permission.