Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

Total war in terms of mass mobilization as we understand it now
no, not just that, although mass mobilisation of that scale absolutely did exist pre french revolution (see: mongol conquests, basically every mongolian was a warrior first and whatever his civilian work was came second)

what i mean is total war in terms of "annihilate or be annihilated", total war in the sense of "victorious population displaces the defeated population" along with all the atrocities that entails. this is how anatolia went from being populated by greeks to being populated by turks, for example.
 
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what i mean is total war in terms of "annihilate or be annihilated", total war in the sense of "victorious population displaces the defeated population" along with all the atrocities that entails. this is how anatolia went from being populated by greeks to being populated by turks, for example.
i think the spanish did that accidentally, though most of the kills were disease and not intentional.
 
no, not just that, although mass mobilisation of that scale absolutely did exist pre french revolution (see: mongol conquests, basically every mongolian was a warrior first and whatever his civilian work was came second)

what i mean is total war in terms of "annihilate or be annihilated", total war in the sense of "victorious population displaces the defeated population" along with all the atrocities that entails. this is how anatolia went from being populated by greeks to being populated by turks, for example.
Sure, but as I noted the 18th century cabinet wars didn’t have that happen.
 
A big dumb retard that can't feed or cloth or equip himself. Give him a snickers and a stick, point him in a general direction of the germans, and let him go fodder himself by the millions so our boys can sit around and eat ice cream.

Works for me.
Yeah it worked for everyone until you started fighting wars without any communists to bail you out.
 
what do you mean by balkanize? im reading definitions and im not getting anything that would make the system that way.
Break apart into smaller nations, the biggest modern example is the former Yugoslavia. There are some redeemable parts of America that at this point would be better off as smaller states such as Texas to east to Florida after a few years of totalitarian rule to clean house.

Lots of people think about America's faults, it's too bad none of them are running your armed forces.
I concur, but that's here nor there.
 
This thread doesn't seem to be about afghanistan and the taliban anymore
i think the thread is rendered moot now. the taliban took over afghanistan and they're going back to their old ways. doesnt take a psychic.
i wonder if some rebelions could pop up due to the comfort kabul people got used to because of american intervention.
 
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ISIS Kilo. Sounds like some bad stuff that ISIS Kilo. I'm surprised they let him out in public anymore.
 
Any time you see a media rag talking about ISIS being a threat in Afghanistan its bullshit. Its the intelligence agencies trying to gin up the War on Terror again to justify their existence. The Taliban are ruthlessly more devoted to stomping out ISIS in Afghanistan, the country is unironically better off in Taliban hands than the Afghan Republic as far as matter is concerned -- the first thing the Taliban did when they took control of Kabul was head over the nearby prison and free all of their fighters, then they took the leader of ISKP out of his cell and executed him on the spot. The Taliban have more to fear than Westerners when it comes to ISKP attacks because they just whacked the leader and ISKP would be looking for reprisal opportunities.
 
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People who want to flee the country continue to wait around Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul, Afghanistan on August 24, 2021.
Kabul Evacuee With Potential ISIS Ties Detained at Qatar Base
Up to 100 evacuees have been flagged for further scrutiny during the more comprehensive screening they received at their first stop after Afghanistan.
By Tara Copp

Senior Pentagon Reporter, Defense One

Security screeners at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar have detected that at least one of the Afghans who was evacuated from Kabul Airport has potential ties to ISIS, a U.S. official confirmed to Defense One.
Moreover, the Defense Department’s Automated Biometric Identification System has flagged up to 100 of the 7,000 Afghans evacuated as prospective recipients of Special Immigration Visas as potential matches to intelligence agency watch lists, a second official said.
At least 6,000 fleeing Afghans have been evacuated to Al Udeid and thousands more have been flown to other temporary staging bases throughout the Middle East and Europe by U.S. military aircraft. At those bases, Customs and Border Patrol screeners are checking evacuees’ IDs and biometric data against law enforcement databases, the first official said.
Ultimately, thousands of those Afghans will come to the United States, where they will be initially housed at several military bases, such as Fort Bliss in Texas, Fort McCoy in Wisconsin and Fort Lee in Virginia.

“There’s certainly been a number of them” who triggered alerts, requiring agents to pull those evacuees aside for further screening, the first official said. In most cases, those Afghans—many of whom have already been vetted through the special immigrant visa process—were cleared by follow-on screening.


But in at least one case, the evacuee “looks like a potential member of ISIS,” the first official said. “They’re still working that through.”
On a Tuesday call with reporters, a senior administration official said that Afghans evacuated to third-party countries are going through “robust security processing” before coming to the United States.
“That process involves biometric and biographic security screenings conducted by our intelligence, law enforcement and counterterrorism professionals who are working quite literally around the clock to vet all these Afghans before they’re allowed into the United States,” the senior administration official said.
For the first few days after Kabul fell on Aug. 15, there were a limited number of U.S. screeners at Hamid Karzai International Airport working to vet hundreds, then thousands of evacuees. To date, the U.S. military and chartered aircraft have flown out more than 63,000 Americans, Afghans, and allied partners fleeing the Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan, in one of the fastest and largest air evacuation operations in the military’s history.
But it wasn’t just the sheer numbers of people that was the challenge. The agents were struggling with old vetting systems and could not integrate all of the information needed, such as the Defense Department’s biometric database information, said a second official who is familiar with the vetting process.
“CBP on the ground has old tech and they don’t know how to use it, integrate it,” the official said. “And there’s not enough people to process” all of the evacuees.
It can take up to an hour for the system to crunch the data and tell a screener whether a person is “green”—cleared—or “red” and a potential security risk, which has been part of the reason for large backlog of evacuees stuck at bases now.
“The bottom line is the system is working, but slow in the process,” the official said.
In the last few days, the U.S. military and civilian airlift operation has gained pace, flying out 21,600 people on Tuesday alone. Those operations are racing against an Aug. 31 deadline to get all troops out.
While most of the security alerts have occurred at Al Udeid, the massive airlift operation has expanded to the extent that it’s possible there are Afghans with potential terror ties getting flagged at other bases.
“I can’t rule it out,” the official said.
Jacqueline Feldscher contributed to this report.
 
Out of curiosity what is the Taliban's stance on female circumcision? Out of call the kvetching from NGOs female circumcision is pretty gross (as is male circumcision but jews and muzzies seem dead set to die on that hill)
 
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People who want to flee the country continue to wait around Hamid Karzai International Airport in Kabul, Afghanistan on August 24, 2021.
Kabul Evacuee With Potential ISIS Ties Detained at Qatar Base
Up to 100 evacuees have been flagged for further scrutiny during the more comprehensive screening they received at their first stop after Afghanistan.
By Tara Copp

Senior Pentagon Reporter, Defense One

Security screeners at Al Udeid Air Base in Qatar have detected that at least one of the Afghans who was evacuated from Kabul Airport has potential ties to ISIS, a U.S. official confirmed to Defense One.
Moreover, the Defense Department’s Automated Biometric Identification System has flagged up to 100 of the 7,000 Afghans evacuated as prospective recipients of Special Immigration Visas as potential matches to intelligence agency watch lists, a second official said.
At least 6,000 fleeing Afghans have been evacuated to Al Udeid and thousands more have been flown to other temporary staging bases throughout the Middle East and Europe by U.S. military aircraft. At those bases, Customs and Border Patrol screeners are checking evacuees’ IDs and biometric data against law enforcement databases, the first official said.
Ultimately, thousands of those Afghans will come to the United States, where they will be initially housed at several military bases, such as Fort Bliss in Texas, Fort McCoy in Wisconsin and Fort Lee in Virginia.

“There’s certainly been a number of them” who triggered alerts, requiring agents to pull those evacuees aside for further screening, the first official said. In most cases, those Afghans—many of whom have already been vetted through the special immigrant visa process—were cleared by follow-on screening.


But in at least one case, the evacuee “looks like a potential member of ISIS,” the first official said. “They’re still working that through.”
On a Tuesday call with reporters, a senior administration official said that Afghans evacuated to third-party countries are going through “robust security processing” before coming to the United States.
“That process involves biometric and biographic security screenings conducted by our intelligence, law enforcement and counterterrorism professionals who are working quite literally around the clock to vet all these Afghans before they’re allowed into the United States,” the senior administration official said.
For the first few days after Kabul fell on Aug. 15, there were a limited number of U.S. screeners at Hamid Karzai International Airport working to vet hundreds, then thousands of evacuees. To date, the U.S. military and chartered aircraft have flown out more than 63,000 Americans, Afghans, and allied partners fleeing the Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan, in one of the fastest and largest air evacuation operations in the military’s history.
But it wasn’t just the sheer numbers of people that was the challenge. The agents were struggling with old vetting systems and could not integrate all of the information needed, such as the Defense Department’s biometric database information, said a second official who is familiar with the vetting process.
“CBP on the ground has old tech and they don’t know how to use it, integrate it,” the official said. “And there’s not enough people to process” all of the evacuees.
It can take up to an hour for the system to crunch the data and tell a screener whether a person is “green”—cleared—or “red” and a potential security risk, which has been part of the reason for large backlog of evacuees stuck at bases now.
“The bottom line is the system is working, but slow in the process,” the official said.
In the last few days, the U.S. military and civilian airlift operation has gained pace, flying out 21,600 people on Tuesday alone. Those operations are racing against an Aug. 31 deadline to get all troops out.
While most of the security alerts have occurred at Al Udeid, the massive airlift operation has expanded to the extent that it’s possible there are Afghans with potential terror ties getting flagged at other bases.
“I can’t rule it out,” the official said.
Jacqueline Feldscher contributed to this report.
I'm actually surprised they managed to find them or even bothered having a vetting process. It's a shame they won't be offloaded to a ME country for rapid liquidation though.
 
Our fearless leaders are now admitting they are planning to leave US citizens behind. Hope y'all are ready for the videos of American men getting decapitated and American Women sold into sex slavery. It's gonna be great. Well done everybody.
 
Been noticing some kind of messaging being conducted on behalf of the Biden administration by its shills. They're attacking the media for "hysteria" and claiming the evacuation numbers show he is doing a good job. Yes they are shills, several of these people have Media Matters or former MM in their profiles. I didn't clip everything but these summarize the various things they're shilling at the moment.


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Been noticing some kind of messaging being conducted on behalf of the Biden administration by its shills. They're attacking the media for "hysteria" and claiming the evacuation numbers show he is doing a good job. Yes they are shills, several of these people have Media Matters or former MM in their profiles. I didn't clip everything but these summarize the various things they're shilling at the moment.


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