Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

[feedtheoctopus]

If my deformed, insane, ass can get laid that's either a sign that I'm way more charismatic then I thought or you guys are just that fucking lame and horrible.

 

[ロボ﹏§¤r﹏h¶rœ]

Most self-proclaimed 'incels' are lonely teens who grow out of it eventually.

 

[Never Scored]

In my experience there are two categories of incels:

1) People who suffer from some kind of neurosis or other mental block that keeps them from getting laid. Here you have your autists, your anxious, your overthinkers, etc. Basically they're just socially inept. I think these people can get laid with coaching.

2) People who are totally undesirable mates and physically repulsive in some way. Really short guys, cripples, guys with a grotesque underbite, multiple non-desirable male traits like being physically smaller than most women, weak, narrow shoulders, small dick(You can probably get away with one of these, but not a whole bunch). Think Hot Wheels, even though he did eventually get laid. There is less hope for these people.

If you're not in the second category, having sex is really not that hard. I know there are people reading this don't believe me because I've gotten in slap fights over this before. Unless you think Never Scored of Kiwi Farms is some kind of master sex-having chad, it is not difficult to have the sex and you need to get over your mental blocks because they're holding you back. I'm not saying you're going to bang a cheerleader, but as long as you're not physically repulsive, you can probably land a chubby chick with nice cans. It's about confidence and showing women you can take care of their needs. That doesn't have to literally be money. You have to remember that even though people are intelligent and have developed the ability to reason, at the end of the day we're just born into the world a naked, screeching animal, and that's what we'll always be. Women respond base animal instinct stuff that tells the subconscious cavewoman living inside her that the caveman inside you can feed her and protect her and her offspring from lions and shit. This is why women find men who are good at sports attractive. This is why women find men who can build stuff or fix stuff attractive.

If you're a literal cripple in a wheel chair, well, maybe you can find some girl who has that as a fetish.

 

[WhiteLivesMatter]

Blackpilled Inceldom is a symptom of the clown world. In a world where whites are becoming marginalized and have to hide from the impurity and seek refuge at their home, men with cut off dick being the "women",
Being an incel is just logical behaviour in 21st century.

 

[Euler's identity]

Being an incel is just logical behaviour in 21st century.

Lmao, cope.

 

[Knight of the Rope]

Blackpilled Inceldom is a symptom of the clown world. In a world where whites are becoming marginalized and have to hide from the impurity and seek refuge at their home, men with cut off dick being the "women",
Being an incel is just logical behaviour in 21st century.

None of the problems that you think are problems actually exist.

Crow about "muh interracial impurity!" all you want but overwhelmingly people pair up with members of their same race, and that's probably not going to change anytime soon so you really don't need to worry about it.

Trannies are a small, small segment of particularly loud troublemakers, but that's all they are. In reality a small majority of people will acquiesce about them deserving basic human rights like not having to worry about being gunned down in the street for being the godless abominations that they are. Fewer than that will actively support them or give more than a token virtue-signalling gesture of sympathy. Even fewer than that are okay with the idea of dating or even befriending one. So again, you really have nothing to worry about.

You guys' collective decision to abandon happy sexy fun times with the 50% of the population that you're attracted to, based solely on delusional rhetoric about problems that don't matter, is pathetic.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

If you're a literal cripple in a wheel chair, well, maybe you can find some girl who has that as a fetish.

It doesn't have to be a fetish. Think of caretaker complexes or maybe she just genuinely likes the guy regardless - that does happen.

Incels and femcels are just retards that don't understand water finds its level. You can't get a 10 when you are a 3 (both physically and mentally). Fix what you can/better yourself, adjust expectations, and few people will actually be doomed to being forever alone.

Being an incel is just logical behaviour in 21st century.

Believe it or not, tradish white women actually do exist, they just expect you to, I dunno, be a man and not a whiny cunt.

 

[Mr Snek]

It doesn't have to be a fetish. Think of caretaker complexes or maybe she just genuinely likes the guy regardless - that does happen.

Incels and femcels are just retards that don't understand water finds its level. You can't get a 10 when you are a 3 (both physically and mentally). Fix what you can/better yourself, adjust expectations, and few people will actually be doomed to being forever alone.

It's not a matter of how attractive the woman you can get is, it's more a matter of how trustworthy they are. And I'd hazard a guess that maybe one in every hundred women won't try and screw over their partner in some way. I personally never like taking bets where the odds aren't in my favour.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

In my experience there are two categories of incels:

1) People who suffer from some kind of neurosis or other mental block that keeps them from getting laid. Here you have your autists, your anxious, your overthinkers, etc. Basically they're just socially inept. I think these people can get laid with coaching.

2) People who are totally undesirable mates and physically repulsive in some way. Really short guys, cripples, guys with a grotesque underbite, multiple non-desirable male traits like being physically smaller than most women, weak, narrow shoulders, small dick(You can probably get away with one of these, but not a whole bunch). Think Hot Wheels, even though he did eventually get laid. There is less hope for these people.

If you're not in the second category, having sex is really not that hard. I know there are people reading this don't believe me because I've gotten in slap fights over this before. Unless you think Never Scored of Kiwi Farms is some kind of master sex-having chad, it is not difficult to have the sex and you need to get over your mental blocks because they're holding you back. I'm not saying you're going to bang a cheerleader, but as long as you're not physically repulsive, you can probably land a chubby chick with nice cans. It's about confidence and showing women you can take care of their needs. That doesn't have to literally be money. You have to remember that even though people are intelligent and have developed the ability to reason, at the end of the day we're just born into the world a naked, screeching animal, and that's what we'll always be. Women respond base animal instinct stuff that tells the subconscious cavewoman living inside her that the caveman inside you can feed her and protect her and her offspring from lions and shit. This is why women find men who are good at sports attractive. This is why women find men who can build stuff or fix stuff attractive.

If you're a literal cripple in a wheel chair, well, maybe you can find some girl who has that as a fetish.

I agree for the most part. I think that if I was a cripple in a wheel chair though that I'd prefer to keep whatever little pride I'd have left than beg for pity fucks or seek being someone's weird fetish.

Sex isn't important enough to go through that and it'd probably have unintended consequences on one's psyche. What happened to men having a bit of self-respect, is sex really valued more than that now?

That's a rhetorical question by the way, the existence of simps answers it.

 

[Blobby's Murder Knife]

It's not a matter of how attractive the woman you can get is, it's more a matter of how trustworthy they are. And I'd hazard a guess that maybe one in every hundred women won't try and screw over their partner in some way. I personally never like taking bets where the odds aren't in my favour.

How do I know that some man will not screw me over? Are they all honorable with honest intentions? Listen to a bunch of spinster femcels as a woman then you would come to the opinion that all men are worthless pieces of shit and better to be a lesbian (LMAO) then chance it again with men, never taking into consideration that the common denominator in all their failed relationships is them. Same with incels. They make an echo chamber where all women are whores and out to rob them when in reality, there are actual women who are serious and committed if they actually bettered themselves and bothered to look at more than just anime and incel forums for 10 seconds. But nah, just sit on the internet and complain you are not assigned a 9/10 waifu for no fucking reason.

 

[Mr Snek]

How do I know that some man will not screw me over? Are they all honorable with honest intentions? Listen to a bunch of spinster femcels as a woman then you would come to the opinion that all men are worthless pieces of shit and better to be a lesbian (LMAO) then chance it again with men, never taking into consideration that the common denominator in all their failed relationships is them. Same with incels. They make an echo chamber where all women are whores and out to rob them when in reality, there are actual women who are serious and committed if they actually bettered themselves and bothered to look at more than just anime and incel forums for 10 seconds. But nah, just sit on the internet and complain you are not assigned a 9/10 waifu for no fucking reason.

I never said men were any better, a vast majority of the population are terrible people and most of the ones that aren't are so stupid they might as well be terrible. The reasonable solution for both genders is to avoid trusting people as much as possible and focus on gaining monetary value and maybe seek a partner to procreate with if they have the means to do so. But looking for someone as a trustworthy lifelong companion is a mistake.

 

[Dreamer]

I never said men were any better, a vast majority of the population are terrible people and most of the ones that aren't are so stupid they might as well be terrible. The reasonable solution for both genders is to avoid trusting people as much as possible and focus on gaining monetary value and maybe seek a partner to procreate with if they have the means to do so. But looking for someone as a trustworthy lifelong companion is a mistake.

People outside of the Internet are rarely untrustworthy cunts for no reason, or at all for that matter. It really depends on your setting but i find there aren't a lot of actively malicious people around. Being a dick takes energy, most people are just too lazy for that.
Thinking people are somehow naturally evil is just a cope. It absolves you from responsibility.

 

[Mexican_Wizard_711]

I never said men were any better, a vast majority of the population are terrible people and most of the ones that aren't are so stupid they might as well be terrible. The reasonable solution for both genders is to avoid trusting people as much as possible and focus on gaining monetary value and maybe seek a partner to procreate with if they have the means to do so. But looking for someone as a trustworthy lifelong companion is a mistake.

You are sadly correct my good sir aka people = shit

 

[Megatardingo]

People outside of the Internet are rarely untrustworthy cunts for no reason, or at all for that matter. It really depends on your setting but i find there aren't a lot of actively malicious people around. Being a dick takes energy, most people are just too lazy for that.
Thinking people are somehow naturally evil is just a cope. It absolves you from responsibility.

Maybe you're the untrustworthy asshole and that's why you can't notice anyone evil, food for thought.

 

[Dreamer]

You are sadly correct my good sir aka people = shit

Anon, watching lets plays is not a substitute for human interaction, if you get your outlook on life from shit like this then im really sorry for you
Social media was a mistake, people are unable to distinguish sensationalized stories from reality and its really fucking with everyone's heads. Stories always replaced reality but ever since media realized doomer shit gets more clicks = more money that's the only thing they've been pushing and the impact on society is clear.
When watching a video the first question is always "why does this exist?" and the most likely answer "money and fame for the creator".

Maybe you're the untrustworthy asshole and that's why you can't notice anyone evil, food for thought.

What kind of backward logic is this? Wouldn't a con man be the first person to spot a con man?
Hey, maybe you just see miserable retards because you're one yourself, that would make logical sense at least.

 

[Megatardingo]

What kind of backward logic is this? Wouldn't a con man be the first person to spot a con man?
Hey, maybe you just see miserable retards because you're one yourself, that would make logical sense at least.

A fly finds shit enjoyable while the rest would find it disgusting. So maybe if everyone's saying "god it stinks in here" and you say "what do you mean stink it smells like a feast" is because you are a fly and eat shit. Follow the logic or do you need a graphic and some piecharts?

 

[Never Scored]

I never said men were any better, a vast majority of the population are terrible people and most of the ones that aren't are so stupid they might as well be terrible. The reasonable solution for both genders is to avoid trusting people as much as possible and focus on gaining monetary value and maybe seek a partner to procreate with if they have the means to do so. But looking for someone as a trustworthy lifelong companion is a mistake.

Bruh, I've had four serious relationships with women over the years and I've never had one of them screw me over. Get the fuck out of here with your 1 in 100 women are trustworthy shit. If I had to throw out a number, it's probably closer to 75% trustworthy 25% untrustworthy for the population as a whole. You have to get off the internet and interact with people to see this.

Unless your bar for "untrustworthy" is "she'll leave if she's unhappy" which is weird and toxic. Why would you stay with someone who makes you unhappy? You're going to die someday, why waste your life being unhappy?

A fly finds shit enjoyable while the rest would find it disgusting. So maybe if everyone's saying "god it stinks in here" and you say "what do you mean stink it smells like a feast" is because you are a fly and eat shit. Follow the logic or do you need a graphic and some piecharts?

Maybe the rest of the world is flies and you're the maladjusted asshole who is too good for shit.

 

[Dreamer]

A fly finds shit enjoyable while the rest would find it disgusting. So maybe if everyone's saying "god it stinks in here" and you say "what do you mean stink it smells like a feast" is because you are a fly and eat shit. Follow the logic or do you need a graphic and some piecharts?

Anon, your analogy would be accurate if i said "man, i love shitty, lying, manipulative assholes so fucking much haha", meanwhile i'm here saying "people aren't shitty and you haven't talked to them in a good while".
Do you see the difference or ...
Look, just stop coping. Thinking other people are evil for no fuckin' reason whatsoever is a cope, because with this mindset you can blame your shitty relationships or lack of thereof on others instead of seeing how they reflect on you. You would rather think everyone is out to get you than try to talk to them.
Just because people CAN be shitty doesn't mean you can dismiss them outright.

 

[Megatardingo]

Anon, your analogy would be accurate if i said "man, i love shitty, lying, manipulative assholes so fucking much haha", meanwhile i'm here saying "people aren't shitty and you haven't talked to them in a good while".
Do you see the difference or ...
Look, just stop coping. Thinking other people are evil for no fuckin' reason whatsoever is a cope, because with this mindset you can blame your shitty relationships or lack of thereof on others instead of seeing how they reflect on you. You would rather think everyone is out to get you than try to talk to them.
Just because people CAN be shitty doesn't mean you can dismiss them outright.

My analogy is good if you're the shitty lying manipulative asshole because he'd be too narcissistic to admit he's the issue. Also it's kinda funny how you keep saying "People are good except you, you're not good", what is it? Is everyone good? Or are there shitty people out there? Even if I'm the issue there'd be more people like me out there, so your argument can't even fucking work properly for 3 secs. Just stop thinking like a baby boy and realize that there's evil out there and more often than not it pays dividends to people and it is encouraged. It's not like current year is encouraging healthy dating habits at all.

 

[Dreamer]

My analogy is good if you're the shitty lying manipulative asshole because he'd be too narcissistic to admit he's the issue. Also it's kinda funny how you keep saying "People are good except you, you're not good", what is it? Is everyone good? Or are there shitty people out there? Even if I'm the issue there'd be more people like me out there, so your argument can't even fucking work properly for 3 secs. Just stop thinking like a baby boy and realize that there's evil out there and more often than not it pays dividends to people and it is encouraged. It's not like current year is encouraging healthy dating habits at all.

1. A narcissist wouldn't work to improve the perception of other narcissists. They want the attention for themselves only. A narcissist would gladly work to undermine positive perception of other people because it elevates him by default. This is how this shit works in real life, unlike your cartoon world.
2. What possible reason can i have to manipulate you into a more positive outlook? Am i going to try and scam you somehow? What's my angle here?
3. IM not saying everyone's a saint, i'm saying majority of people don't give a fuck enough to be malicious. Fundamentally different. Also, even if majority of people were "good" (???) whatever that means, there would still be room for a retard like you. "Majority" doesn't mean "everyone".
4. C O P E M O R E
5. You're not worth talking to anymore so i won't bother. cu qt bb xoxo