US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

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Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?
 
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asr said:
Like many of you have said this is an unmitigated disaster, but my question is how did it get to this? I understand that we're not privy to everything these glow in the darks do but this defies all rationality. We released people from gitmo who now make up their leadership, we've ran glow in the dark ops there for so long the whole area glows like it's fucking irradiated but somehow there's no info, no forwarding intel about what might happen if we didn't adhere to the deal, no learned lessons after 20 years there in regards to local tribal politics? Suspending my disbelief am I to assume that the US intelligence apparatus is this incompetent?
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If you want a non-conspiratorial take on this, I have one.

Power structures are inherently a disinformation system. Those below don't want to give bad news to those above. Those above don't want to appear weak by asking for information or advice from those below. The more entrenched and severe a power structure is enforced, the greater these problems are exacerbated.

In short, at every level the negative news is sugar coated more till even a turd becomes a boiled sweet. If someone on the ground says the ANA are jokers who will couldn't tell one end of a rifle from another then by the time that reaches the generals, they're a fighting force that would make the SAS quiver in their boots.
 
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Fucking limey retards, just dump the papers and disks into a steel barrel and douse it with gas you morons
I-chi said:
The point is not that anyone gives a shit that you can admit to anything, the point is that we like holding your nose to the shit and we aren't going to stop bullying you for it. We know that makes you seethe, we are aware that the only reason you haven't been kicked is because you're janny-shielded, and that whatever reputation you held for your post history is pretty much buried under the garbage that has been your attitude for over the past year. I mean, it's like what Null said, right?

Don't be smug, because people will go out of their way to knock you for it on pure spite alone, and you just can't ever learn. :story:
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He's a janny? of what?
 
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asr said:
Like many of you have said this is an unmitigated disaster, but my question is how did it get to this?
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From what I can tell, it's the end result of what we've been building towards in Afghanistan for over a decade now. What we saw there for a long time was a strange confluence between something at once vitally important and something not given a lot of oversight. For the most part, what political forces wanted to say happened there was what was going on, regardless of the facts on the ground. The Washington Post has a far more in-depth analysis of this here, but suffice to say there were plenty of voices speaking out and plenty of eyes seeing differently. It just wasn't politically desired or expedient, so they were ignored in favor of a safe, stable quagmire, and the tax of dozens of American soldiers and billions upon billions of dollars each year.

And then, suddenly, it's coming to an end. The Trump deal is put into place, and now there's a deadline. Regardless of the Biden administration's actions, the situation not only was going to change, but all the pieces were going to fall into place. The fiction that financial and political interests were telling themselves was about to get a reality check... but my thought process is, they spent so long lying to themselves that they started believing it. I think there was a genuine belief that Afghanistan would at least hold out until we left.

Until it didn't. Until the end result of almost decades of work, trillions of dollars, and thousands upon thousands of lives was a government propped up to extract as much from us as it could before it collapsed and fled in a matter of days. Until the intelligence apparatuses we trusted were revealed to have been either unwilling or unable to tell the truth on the ground. Until it became clear that every life lost on the ground these past few weeks, every person stranded that we cannot evacuate, every square meter of land lost to the Taliban/ISIS wasn't an accident or act of God. It was all part of a grand tapestry of the demise of our Afghanistan fiction, the end of the intoxicating delusion that's defined the last four presidential periods in the United States.

Was it all worth it in the end? All of those lives, all of that money, political capital at home and Internationally spent, was it worth it? The answer to all of us is "absolutely not." It's our moonshot crashing back to Earth without leaving the atmosphere, our grand society devolving into a hellscape (if ever it wasn't), and our dreams of who were are and what we can do consumed into a nightmare. This is who we are now. God help us all.

Tl;DR: Just imagine somebody screaming until their lungs give out.
 
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