Callum Nathan Thomas Edmunds / MauLer93 / MauLer and the EFAPshere - Objective discussion about not-Channel Awesome featuring Rags, Southpaw and more!

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So I made it 4 into his Black Widow review before clocking that he seems to have forgot what character development is in regards to Loki. I could then not be bothered watching the rest.

With a 4 hour review you'd think he'd rewrite the movie from scratch or some shit. Or finish of Force Awakens already.

I'm done even calling them videos or reviews.

When something is longer than a fucking movie I'm calling it a movie or a documentary. Is there another, better word? Because what it isn't is a response or a critique.

 

[6MillionCoofs]

I'm done even calling them videos or reviews.

When something is longer than a fucking movie I'm calling it a movie or a documentary. Is there another, better word? Because what it isn't is a response or a critique.

I’d call them what he does ‘Unbridled Rage’ and yet for some reason he doesn’t seem to take people saying he’s clearly butt hurt due to the length well.

Dude should just embrace that he is butt hurt. Getting so mad at something that you would talk about it for hours used to be the thing on the internet.

But that would mean not taking himself so seriously, so he won’t do that,

 

[Ragnarlodbrok]

https://twitter.com/MauLer93/status/1429731338899296257
Again with the complaints about people bringing up Jenny Nicholson. I know I'm a broken record about this, but Mauler when's the last time you say the thumbnail for that video?

If your're some random normie who gets this recommended for whatever reason, what to you expect them to think? Most of them aren't even going to click on the video to skim through it to see that you ONLY talk about her for five hours. Honest to God, how does he not understand the optics of how this looks, then again he and Rags willing associate with Sargon of Applebees, optics has never been a strong suit for a lot of these guys.

A lot of the critism of Jenny wasn't aimed at her takes on cinema but at her as a person just for disliking Joker, a mediocre movie in a sea of bad ones.

 

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A lot of the critism of Jenny wasn't aimed at her takes on cinema but at her as a person just for disliking Joker, a mediocre movie in a sea of bad ones.

Eh, fuck Jenny. I agree they made fun of her, but so what? I make fun of EFAP making a plush of a furry sex avatar.

More interesting. Joker is mediocre?

Redpill me!

 

[Dr. Pasquale]

A lot of the critism of Jenny wasn't aimed at her takes on cinema but at her as a person just for disliking Joker, a mediocre movie in a sea of bad ones.

They made fun of her for thinking that the movie's message was "Stop taking your pills if you're a crazy person" and for the fact that she went to see the movie in a drive in theater because she thought there was literally going to be a incel fueled mass shooting and that her shitty ass car would protect her from an AK-47 barrage.

She clearly didn't give a fuck about the movie, barely paid attention to it and just made the review for views and simping, it was a horrible video all around

 

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They made fun of her for thinking that the movie's message was "Stop taking your pills if you're a crazy person" and for the fact that she went to see the movie in a drive in theater because she thought there was literally going to be a incel fueled mass shooting and that her shitty ass car would protect her from an AK-47 barrage.

She clearly didn't give a fuck about the movie, barely paid attention to it and just made the review for views and simping, it was a horrible video all around

How could you not love Jenny's videos!

I mean, the human sized stuffed Porg?

Seriously, does it surprise you that a person like this would fail to 'get' Joker?

That's right guys. She made an hour long video about My Little Pony. With pony headgear.

 

[DisaffectedDude]

This should explain the uncharacteristic willingness to not nitpick a non-Marvel film and give it praise. For the director is James Gunn whose The Suicide Squad attempts to Marvelize the DCEU as much as humanely possible.

James Gunn didn't attempt to Marvelize the DCEU. Watch Super, Slither or the Guardians of the Galaxy films and you'll see that he just made a James Gunn movie - just in the DCEU this time.

* Mauler and company, without getting into Grace's points, immediately are hostile. They spend most of the remaining 9 hrs struggling to calm down before returning to the video. After an unbearable segment of let's play gaming they return. The key arrives when someone raises the ugly truth. That The Suicide Squad was actually closer to a bomb. Immediately the excuses fly. It's a good movie, saddled with DC's horrible reputation.

I will again pause here. That argument is especially bad. Ayer's Squad actually did well financially, Snyder's MoS was controversial, but made money. WW and Aquaman were home runs while Shazam was a solid hit.

Snyder's Man of Steel came out in 2013, before anybody knew anything about how DC was trying to build their own Marvel-esque 'Cinematic Universe'. People were just like 'Hey, the guy behind Watchmen and 300 is working with the writer for Nolan Batman on a Superman flick...neat'.

2016 was the year Batman v. Superman and Suicide Squad came out. It was the beginning of the DCEU and people were hopeful. 5 years later and most people see that the DCEU is just a fucking mess and a shoddy attempt at creating their own 'Cinematic Universe'. Where they decided to release a Justice League movie before giving any of the characters their own movie, except 2, which is part of why the Snydercut was so damn long.

It's true '84 and Birds of Prey tanked, but, so did Black Widow. Does Marvel have a rep for bad films? Perhaps, just maybe, Grace has a point?

Trying to judge the box office of films released during a pandemic seems kinda dumb. Just looking at the 5-years before 2020, I'm talking 2015-2019, there were between 27 and 35 films every year that were grossing over $100 million dollars. Only FIVE films managed that in 2020. And at least 132 films each year were making over $10 million, but in 2020 only forty films managed it. Because there was a global pandemic going on for 10 months of the year! Which might've caused theaters to be closed, or a smaller percentage of them to be open, or might've had people double-thinking going out to watch a movie in a theater where they might expose themselves to a virus.

Wonder Woman 84 released during the pandemic in December of 2020. It had a limited released, about half the theaters as it normally would because of the pandemic. So, 'Global Pandemic' + 'Limited Released' = probably going to make less money. Probably. Based on it being the most popular straight-to-streaming title, though, it probably would've done pretty well in a non-global pandemic year!

You start with Marvel zombies. To be sure, some crossed over to watch Gunn's latest gross out fest. But apparently allot of them didn't. If SS2 had brought in the people who watched Ayer's first movie it would have been fine. But they didn't. Maybe because SS and SS2 were different movies with very different tones. Gunn's movie was designed to appeal to Marvel fans. It's entirely possible that that put off Snyderbronies, DC movie goers who like a less whimsical tone and expect more from a DC movie.

The Suicide Squad is not only tainted by being part of the DCEU but by being called 'The Suicide Squad'. The original film was impressively not good, so seeing it rebooted several years later might not excite most. It also released during a pandemic year, in fact, it releases just as the virus is having a resurgence. It's also releasing simultaneously in Theaters and on HBO MAX, where unlike Disney+ it can be watched for FREE if you have an account.

As far as 'attracting' fans, I don't think TSS had a problem with that. This is a very flawed and imperfect metric but if you look at both Metacritic and Rotten Tomatoes, then you will see it did better with BOTH critics and fans than the original. The Slashline (Critic/Users) on Metacritic and RT for Ayers Suicide Squad is '40/60' and '26/59', versus Gunn's The Suicide Squad which is '72/72' and '91/82'.

Everybody I know who was excited about the original Suicide Squad, only to watch it and be massively disappointed, have all posted their praise after seeing the new one.

If there's anybody who liked Suicide Squad more than The Suicide Squad they need to be sterilized.

Overselling it. allot. It wasn't Thor Dark World, Iron Man 2, Captain Marvel.....
People liked it. It was a fun movie that's real problem was it's script. Specifically it needed an Act III rewrite.
Your assessment, like theirs, is harsher. If it was a Marvel movie you'd give it a meh a move on.

Suicide Squad is far worse. It had more problems than just the script, serious problems. It was broken from the word 'go'. And as Folding Ideas showed off it's also a showcase in how NOT to edit a film.

Substance. For one. Originality.

Haha, good joke ... you are joking right?

Again with the complaints about people bringing up Jenny Nicholson. I know I'm a broken record about this, but Mauler when's the last time you say the thumbnail for that video?

If your're some random normie who gets this recommended for whatever reason, what to you expect them to think? Most of them aren't even going to click on the video to skim through it to see that you ONLY talk about her for five hours. Honest to God, how does he not understand the optics of how this looks, then again he and Rags willing associate with Sargon of Applebees, optics has never been a strong suit for a lot of these guys.

It's funny because both her and Cosmonaut basically had the same reaction. 'Wow, somebody made an 'x amount of hours' video about me' - Like, the most milquetoast fucking response, and yet he gets massively butthurt and goes into full 'ACKSHULLY IF U WASTED HALF YOUR DAY TO TALLY THE TOTAL MINUTES WE ACTUALLY FOCUS ON YOU ITS ONLY 'y amount of hours'!.

Because he hates being misrepresented, and would never do that to anyone else...just ignore every clip he's ever used of another YTer where he's 100% deliberately misrepresented them.

 

[buying gf]

Wait, when did this thread get moved to IF? I figured it would get moved when something big and retarded happened e.g. a slapfight with RLM or some other high profile creator. But the only recent thing is the EFAP 150.
Or am I just super

 

[Berrakh]

Whenever I see videos like Mauler's length I wonder if he's looking for more things to dislike than anyone else.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Hearing the Black Widow video over the last couple of days, it's pretty amazing the amount of effort the guy put into about what is clearly a bad movie made primarily for retards. It's like dissecting a wafer thin mint and coming with the conclusion that it is, indeed, a mint.
Like just say the writing is bad and characters act like morons to advance the script. There's a political message but it's undercut by being written by the worst group of human being in history, and every moral or theme is just said out loud without actually being built up on everything.
You'd think that with a four hour runtime Mauler could talk about anything but the plot like the cinematography or action scenes but even those basic bitch things are glossed over.

 

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Well, Callum's still going. He and the crew have unleashed part II of the nauseatingly ass long anniversary stream.

I'm only two hours in and may continue later.

* Y'know, it's funny that Passing Through Town accused me of sounding like Mauler. At times, he says things that I said, only to then say things that Passing and others said. Mostly, its two hours of vicious, retarded autism over someone attempting to defend Martin Scorsese.

At this point, I'm going to pair this down. Scorsese has done more for film than Mauler or his boyfriend Joss Whedon will ever do. I fully can see his frustration and I encourage people to listen to his comments as I did. He essentially is an elderly man who views what he does as a fine art and is scared and offended that it's being put up with corporate copypasta superhero films. Basically everything he's saying applies to SnyderDC/MarvelFeige.

The EFAP crew take two hours of pausing a video to reach the consensus that this is all elitist garbage and that its all movies. In between gushing over the Marvel movies (Captain America and Iron Man). Finally my head hurt and I turned it off. Only to receive this notice.

I shudder in horror at an EFAP of the Snydercut. For starters, Callum's review is unfair and in some ways does a disservice to it. Add to that SouthPaw is there. Because if you want to overcome the perception your a brain damaged millennial that mistakes fillet mignon for a Big Mac; you bring the guy that claims Amazing Spider-man 2 is better than Spidey 2. Finally, the Snydercut is a soul crushing four hour marathon. In EFAP land, that translate to how fucking long????

 

[Ash97]

can anyone recap the anniversary stream? is it boring all the way through or are there any good bits?

I shudder in horror at an EFAP of the Snydercut. For starters, Callum's review is unfair and in some ways does a disservice to it. Add to that SouthPaw is there. Because if you want to overcome the perception your a brain damaged millennial that mistakes fillet mignon for a Big Mac; you bring the guy that claims Amazing Spider-man 2 is better than Spidey 2. Finally, the Snydercut is a soul crushing four hour marathon. In EFAP land, that translate to how fucking long????

shockingly not that much by EFAP's metrics

 

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can anyone recap the anniversary stream? is it boring all the way through or are there any good bits?

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shockingly not that much by EFAP's metrics

I've been slowly working my through. I previously wrote up part one and two hours of part 2. Honestly, the 11 hours I've done break down into Jim Sterling EFAP, appreciating fan memes, and Sperging about superhero movies and Martin Scorsese.

 

[Elescondido]

https://twitter.com/MauLer93/status/1429731338899296257
Again with the complaints about people bringing up Jenny Nicholson. I know I'm a broken record about this, but Mauler when's the last time you say the thumbnail for that video?

If your're some random normie who gets this recommended for whatever reason, what to you expect them to think? Most of them aren't even going to click on the video to skim through it to see that you ONLY talk about her for five hours. Honest to God, how does he not understand the optics of how this looks, then again he and Rags willing associate with Sargon of Applebees, optics has never been a strong suit for a lot of these guys.

To be fair Rags was friends with him at least a couple of Years before Sargon started embarrasing himself in public

 

[LionoRaptor]

Whedon Justice League is an okay/good film if you have never seen any DCEU movies and go in completely blind.
Problem was the tone was a complete flip from the established tone of the universe under Snyder. Like going from Burton's Batman to Batman & Robin.

SnyderCut fits in more with his previous films. Its dark gritty overling and pretentious but he did learn from his mistakes and made it funnier and more emotional.

Suicide Squad 2016 is a okay movie ruined by bad editing. They hired a trailer house company to edit the film. I mean WTF. It has the attitude of a try-hard look at me im cool/badass. Acting likes its cooler than it is.

 

[Ash97]

Whedon Justice League is an okay/good film if you have never seen any DCEU movies and go in completely blind.
Problem was the tone was a complete flip from the established tone of the universe under Snyder. Like going from Burton's Batman to Batman & Robin.

I have this problem with Suicide Squad 2k21: suddenly we have a cartoonish shark eating people, goofy ass spandex suits and Bloodsport's (cool, but) insanely advanced gun tech.

it's not a bad movie, it's just very jarring as the part of DCEU - take Harley, Waller and Rick Flag out and it might as well be it's own thing (universe wise)

 

[TheClorax]

I have this problem with Suicide Squad 2k21: suddenly we have a cartoonish shark eating people, goofy ass spandex suits and Bloodsport's (cool, but) insanely advanced gun tech.

it's not a bad movie, it's just very jarring as the part of DCEU - take Harley, Waller and Rick Flag out and it might as well be it's own thing (universe wise)

I actually really like the different tones DC’s given us so far. It offers a lot more than what Marvel’s put out. DC can go from a darker toned introspective on a modern Superman, to light hearted fun with Aquaman and Shazam, to Joker, to a self-aware jab at American government and comic movies as a whole.
Marvel may be more consistent in it’s quality, but DC so far has a lot more variety in what you’re getting into.

 

[Ash97]

I actually really like the different tones DC’s given us so far. It offers a lot more than what Marvel’s put out. DC can go from a darker toned introspective on a modern Superman, to light hearted fun with Aquaman and Shazam, to Joker, to a self-aware jab at American government and comic movies as a whole.

Joker is it's own thing

I disagree, I find it hard to believe that characters like Superman and Weasel are from the same universe

if Gunn directed MoS, he'd be like idk... Silver Age Supes or some shit, something out of Superfriends and if Weasel was a character from Snyder movies, he'd be like some grimy creepy monster thing, all edgy and shit.

My point is that MoS, BvS, WW, Suicide Squad 2k16 and the Snyder Cut all feel like the same universe, same visual style, same level of grimyness/edgyness and (more or less subjective) realism

With movies like Suicide Squad 2k21, Aquaman and Wonder Woman 1984 my suspension of disbelief gets annihilated with both of them, either via comic booky goofiness (TSS, Aquaman) that wasn't present in any of the previous movies, or via explicit character assassinations and huge retcons/continuity errors (WW84). With all of them you can see that the director was given cart blanche and so they didn't give a fuck about trying to align with the previously established tone and just did their own thing. The result is that SS 2k21, Aquaman and WW84 stick out like sore thumbs from the other movies.

Somehow I don't have this problem with Shazam despite the lighter tone, I can absolutely see it as part of the Snyderverse/DCEU despite the highjinx.

And I don't want to talk about Birds of Prey.

 

[WULULULULU]

A bit off-topic but I just noticed a TVTropes review of MauLer. I suspect he has not changed.

 

[Aaron McIntyre]

EFAP #151 is live right now. They are reacting to the No Way Home trailer. Sounds boring tbh.