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I wonder if this pill won't just be ivermectin with some other ingredients and usuage slapped on so they can claim its not just ivermectin. "Noooooooo! You can't stop taking the vax after getting your pfizermectin, we don't know which one is doing the heavy lifting, and we lost all of our clinical trial patients!"
 
You'll know when a leftist is telling the truth when he gives up power in order to do so.
However, this has never happened in all of recorded history.
I mean East Germany didn't open fire on the people tearing down the Berlin Wall, so maybe there are exceptions?
It's high time people realized our ostensible leaders and those who direct them are completely and totally evil, in the most visceral sense of the word, regardless of their intentions or motivations.
I think it's because people can't define an evil society without just thinking "Hitler, Stalin, and Mao." People can't imagine that they might be living in a society ruled by evil leaders because "it can't happen here." The only difference between the aforementioned dictators and today's dictators is that our leaders now have evolved beyond the need to commit mass murder as a side effect of policies like forced labor camps, idiotic agricultural policy, or rewarding local leaders with how many "enemies of the state" they arrest and shoot.

I don't see much difference between the governments of the West and Chairman Xi's China. Both are dominated by unelected bureaucrats devoted to stripping the rights of their citizens to protect the ruling class who will use every tool they can to silence their opposition. There's a rising "Sinicization" of Western bureaucracy where they're copying Chinese methods to expand their power. There isn't much difference in not being allowed to make fun of troons to not being allowed to say how Chairman Xi looks like Winnie the Pooh. And Andrew Cuomo being forced to resign for "sexual harassment" (instead of, ya know, involuntary manslaughter of tens of thousands of elderly) is akin to the vague charges of "corruption" used to purge politicians in China.

In some ways, they're a unique sort of evil given their ideal system is techno-feudalism, where for the sake of efficiency you must be tracked at all times, you must rent all your property from the elites, you will only eat healthy foods like crickets and drink "efficient" drinks like cockroach milk, you will report on your fellow citizens, you will speak English and only partake in culture we can commodify and make into propaganda. The people calling the shots want this society, and politicians and bureaucrats who go along with it either want it too or foolishly think they can salvage something good out of it. You know, a textbook totalitarian society, "just following orders".
 
Why not allow people to get Ivermectin pills, that way they don't have to resort to horse paste. And if they die, we can make an example of the failures of Ivermectin! Wait you don't want anti-vaxxers dead by Ivermectin? Why not? :^))))
average democrat politician programming
C++:
switch (politicalIssue.type()) {
    case DRUGS_NOT_TOBACCO:
    case SEX:
        politicalIssue.setResponse(probablyBetterThanRepublicanParty);
        break;
    default:
        politicalIssue.setResponse(mostAuthoritarianThingPossible);
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Here we go with the bullshit.


A doctor in rural Oklahoma says the number of people overdosing on horse deworming medication ivermectin is so high that emergency rooms are filled to the brim.

The situation is so dire that even people with gunshot wounds have to wait their turn to get treatment, said Dr. Jason McElyea, an ER physician affiliated with multiple hospitals in Sallisaw, Oklahoma.
Edit: I swear to God like 50% of Yahoo's articles are on Ivermetcin right now.


LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — Several inmates at a northwest Arkansas jail said they weren't told a medication they were given to treat COVID-19 was actually an anti-parasite drug that federal health officials have warned should not be used to treat the coronavirus.

Three inmates at the Washington County jail told The Associated Press they didn't know they were being given ivermectin until its use at the facility was revealed last week. The American Civil Liberties Union of Arkansas, which on Wednesday repeated its call for the practice to end, said it's also heard similar complaints from inmates.
 
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While the NPC news claim that there's no way Ivermectin could work as a treatment, there seem to be a lot of papers exploring how Ivermectin could work via blocking certain molecules and stuff, like a protease inhibitor.
As @Drain Todger said, it makes most sense as a prophylactic or taken very early after infection.

Hey, remember when Pfizer announced their totally new COVID19 medication to be taken at the first sign of infection, way before hospitalization?
A protease inhibitor.
I'm sure there is absolutely no relation to Ivermectin in there. Ivermectin, after all, is a horse dewormer and doesn't work, studies showed that it didn't help! This is a new and original medication, hence the patent and price tag!
 
I find it hard to believe any “overflowing hospital” story without any photo or video proof, and I can’t seen to find any. This has been said before but I can get videos of Syrians shooting down planss in the fucking wifi-less desert and the Taliban on trampolines but Western hospitals somehow dont have internet? The lebanese explosion was caught on hundreds of cameras by accident and then filmed by hundreds more. There are thousands of videos of the BLM and anti lockdown protests. People will snapchat record random shit in the street, but there’s no video of overflowing wards or people dropping dead of ivermectin? The world is obsessed with their phones and being the next viral video and no one barring the media “i wish i took the vax” stories and dancing nurses in empty corridors is filming the overflowing hospitals? Not even the patients or some random janny who doesnt given a shit about privacy? China had videos of overflowing wards in the early days, so where are the Wests? It dont add up. a couple men were arrested near me for filming an empty hospital to prove covid was overblown in 2020 though. Anyway, UK government faces “challenge” in renewing the emergency powers for another 6 months as backbench unhappy. ( https://archive.is/wip/GFLI4) Will we go the route of Australia? Barely anything in the news regarding the passports, BBC frontpage didnt have it. Moving ‘closed’ to approving vaccines for 12 to 15 year olds dollar signs all around.
Edit - archive links broke
 
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Here we go with the bullshit.


A doctor in rural Oklahoma says the number of people overdosing on horse deworming medication ivermectin is so high that emergency rooms are filled to the brim.

The situation is so dire that even people with gunshot wounds have to wait their turn to get treatment, said Dr. Jason McElyea, an ER physician affiliated with multiple hospitals in Sallisaw, Oklahoma.

This is about as real as all of the doctors walking out because of the unvaccinated.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/arkansas-inmates-not-told-were-212203355.html

LITTLE ROCK, Ark. (AP) — Several inmates at a northwest Arkansas jail said they weren't told a medication they were given to treat COVID-19 was actually an anti-parasite drug that federal health officials have warned should not be used to treat the coronavirus.

Three inmates at the Washington County jail told The Associated Press they didn't know they were being given ivermectin until its use at the facility was revealed last week. The American Civil Liberties Union of Arkansas, which on Wednesday repeated its call for the practice to end, said it's also heard similar complaints from inmates.

Can't be that dangerous then.



UK farmers, you can get your horse paste from www.hyperdrug.co.uk, or ivermectin in tablet form from www.indiamart.com (just that shipping is expensive).
 
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I used to think online classes were the future but in my experience so far online college has been awful. Not only do you have to deal with the usual college bullshit you also have to deal with teachers who are too retarded to use the interface. I had 2 quizzes overdue last week because my teacher broke the link somehow and only fixed it this week. Its ridiculous that the government expects teachers to be good at this when some of them still cant figure out how to work a vhs player.
 
I used to think online classes were the future but in my experience so far online college has been awful. Not only do you have to deal with the usual college bullshit you also have to deal with teachers who are too retarded to use the interface. I had 2 quizzes overdue last week because my teacher broke the link somehow and only fixed it this week. Its ridiculous that the government expects teachers to be good at this when some of them still cant figure out how to work a vhs player.
If it was half price it would be worth it but they are basically asking boomers and liberal arts people who have never had a real job to operate new often buggy software.

Also like @Salubrious says our hospital is so busy and overwhelmed with patients that we are somehow hemorrhaging money and making threats to fire our already critically short staff.
 
I used to think online classes were the future but in my experience so far online college has been awful. Not only do you have to deal with the usual college bullshit you also have to deal with teachers who are too retarded to use the interface. I had 2 quizzes overdue last week because my teacher broke the link somehow and only fixed it this week. Its ridiculous that the government expects teachers to be good at this when some of them still cant figure out how to work a vhs player.
I took some online college courses to pad out my electives in like 2012ish. It was such a joke, everyone basically got a 4.0. What would've been a 45 min PowerPoint lecture with discussion turns into 10 min of breezing through if you're a decently fast reader. Pretty sure I spent about an hour PER WEEK on each course and got perfect grades in all of them. It required no effort wwhatsoever.

My big question is what the hell are science majors doing this whole time? What good is a biochem degree with no lab time? Can they even graduate someone who doesn't meet the lab requirements? I would probably drop out of college if they did online only because it's worth even less than it usually is. You can always re-enroll and write some sob story about your mental health being bad cause muh pandemic.
 
For those who are looking for an actual real world treatment protocol and not just taking Ivermectin.

Frontline Covid-19 Critical Care Alliance

Their youtube channel that they have stopped uploading to due to censorship

Pierre Kory is a member.
You might have seen him on the Bret Weinstein podcast:

I assume their protocol is going to be similar to what Joe Rogan took and quickly recovered from.

Their latest podcast gives updates and tweaks to their protocol. And they discuss the problem that some states legally require pharmacists to provide doctor prescriptions. Some do not.

Bonus video.
Watch Alex Jones Take Nobel Prize Winning Drug Ivermectin
 
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@Save the Loli

Without a doubt, the overall goal is a technocratic neofeudalist society. This is what the Rockefellers, Rothschilds, Wall Street, and Silicon Valley are working towards. And they’re not exactly subtle about it, either.



@Meriasek

I’ve got a file on it right here.


Several doctor-initiated clinical trial protocols that aimed to evaluate outcomes, such as reduction in mortality figures, shortened length of intensive care unit stay and/or hospital stay and elimination of the virus with ivermectin use have been registered at the US ClinicalTrials.gov [7]. Real-time data is also available with a meta-analysis of 55 studies to date. As per data available on 16 May 2021, 100% of 36 early treatment and prophylaxis studies report positive effects (96% of all 55 studies). Of these, 26 studies show statistically significant improvements in isolation. Random effects meta-analysis with pooled effects using the most serious outcome reported 79% and 85% improvement for early treatment and prophylaxis respectively (RR 0.21 [0.11–0.37] and 0.15 [0.09–0.25]). The results were similar after exclusion based sensitivity analysis: 81% and 87% (RR 0.19 [0.14–0.26] and 0.13 [0.07–0.25]), and after restriction to 29 peer-reviewed studies: 82% and 88% (RR 0.18 [0.11–0.31] and 0.12 [0.05–0.30]). Statistically significant improvements were seen for mortality, ventilation, hospitalization, cases, and viral clearance. 100% of the 17 Randomized Controlled Trials (RCTs) for early treatment and prophylaxis report positive effects, with an estimated improvement of 73% and 83% respectively (RR 0.27 [0.18–0.41] and 0.17 [0.05–0.61]), and 93% of all 28 RCTs. These studies are tabulated in Table 1. The probability that an ineffective treatment generated results as positive for the 55 studies to date is estimated to be 1 in 23 trillion (p = 0.000000000000043). The consistency of positive results across a wide variety of cases has been remarkable. It is extremely unlikely that the observed results could have occurred by chance [8].

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People will insist that placebo-controlled randomized controlled trials are the gold standard and there’s no way you can dispute the results if they show no benefit when Ivermectin is used. However, it is very easy to construct RCTs that will make any antiviral fail to show a benefit in COVID-19. It’s simple. You limit the sample to people who have late-stage disease. This is called selection bias, and it afflicts basically every single study that shows no benefit for COVID-19 antivirals.

In fact, pretty much the only people who end up enrolling in these trials have COVID-19 that has already progressed to hyperinflammation. That’s not really so much the researchers filtering out presymptomatic people. It’s more a case of self-selection. People who are like “oh shit, my lips are turning blue, I need to go to the fucking hospital right now” are too far gone for antivirals.

”But, but it’s randomized!”

Randomization of clinical trials only affects allocation bias. It doesn’t miraculously enroll the ideal targets for prophylactic antiviral therapy; uninfected people who have yet to contract the disease, and presymptomatic people who have no idea they’re even sick. Those groups are not seeking treatment. Therefore, they don’t end up enrolled in RCTs.

My god. Am I the only one who’s seeing this shit?
 
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Ya know a friend of mine argued that the vaccines are probably safe because the money angle doesn't really exist since the vaccines are produced by pharma companies at cost. At the time I wasn't sure so I couldn't refute him He's not a die hard covidian, he just really doesn't like unconfirmed reports of stuff so it takes some really hard proof to convince him of something.

Looking back into that conversation, I realized maybe this is how'd they make money even if the vaccines were made at cost. You'd just have to take two pills a day forever, the margins on that will probably be crazy. Even if it's just basically Ivermectin or even a placebo it doesn't matter, everyone will think they beat the virus and they pocket a huge sum of cash. It's diabolical really if this was the plan from the start.
 
If the results that we're seeing in parts of India were happening with a $1000 a dose new drug from one of the big pharma companies the media would be cumming on their own faces.

The vaccines have obviously failed. They give about the same protective immunity as the annual flu shot, in other words almost none.

The Israeli media at the moment is claiming that while Covid case numbers continue to surge higher, even with the boosters, 'serious cases' (however that's defined) are falling.
Returning tourists from overseas are also being told that if they take the booster they only have to show a negative Covid test and they can be on their way. Folks who've only had the double dose will have to quarantine for 14 days.
This bullshit is not sustainable. How many people are going to accept an injection every few months, that can cause horrendous side effects, as a condition for leading something of a normal life?

Ya know a friend of mine argued that the vaccines are probably safe because the money angle doesn't really exist since the vaccines are produced by pharma companies at cost. At the time I wasn't sure so I couldn't refute him He's not a die hard covidian, he just really doesn't like unconfirmed reports of stuff so it takes some really hard proof to convince him of something.

Only Astra Zeneca are producing vaccines at cost, the other western vaccine makers are bringing in billions. One of the biggest reasons that the AZ vaccine has been shit on and refused an EUA in the US is because there's no profit in it. If Pfizer, J&J and Moderna were doing this for the sake of humanity they'd release their formula and let anyone make their wonder jabs. Here in Australia most people have held out for the Pfizer because they're retarded and think it's 'safer' because the talking man on tee vee told them so. Spoiler they're all fucking terrible.

 
BWA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

Oh that's... that's funny.

You're kidding yourself if you don't think Pfizer isn't making BILLIONS off of government contracts.
They're screwing governments to the floor and asking for top tier assets as security in third world shitholes.

Some nigger posted a long twitter thread showing one of the contracts.
 
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