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“Who were like”. Damn phone keyboard. Xenforo’s WYSIWYG editor has this weird bug, (in Safari, on mobile, that I know of) where if you make a new line break, it can actually go back and undo a change you made. I wish they’d patch that. I ran an XF board and noticed this years ago, and they still haven’t done anything about it.
 
I remember when Burger King released the vegan burger a couple years ago there was a hit piece released claiming this was an attempt by (((them))) to emasculate men further because soy and plant estrogen was present in the burger (obviously because it's made from plants). Everybody freaked out because soyboys.

It was later revealed the author of the article was a lobbyist for the dairy and meat industry.
 
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whats the point , whats the point of vaccinating, whats the point

covid will never go away. it will come back everytime anything opens up. i hate this soy country, whats the goal? maybe its just reddit crowd is that cucked, normal people are banned on reddit. its just retarded outliers posting.

i feel like this neverending nightmare is so suffocating
 
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whats the point , whats the point of vaccinating, whats the point

covid will never go away. it will come back everytime anything opens up. i hate this soy country, whats the goal? maybe its just reddit crowd is that cucked, normal people are banned on reddit. its just retarded outliers posting.

i feel like this neverending nightmare is so suffocating
The point is that The Man wants to make you do things that you don’t want to do in order to make it plain to you and everyone else that The Man has the power to do so. The less you want to do it, the more you resist it, the more important it is to The Man that you’re made to do it. An example is being made here that lets you know, as well as everyone else, who’s running the show.
 
About the risk of getting long Covid when vaccinated, because this is also a strong argument used for getting vaccinated:

One study based on UK data from Dec 2020 to July 2021 says that of 971'000 vaccinated people, 0.2 percent developed a breakthrough case (2'370 cases, per the study). These 2'370 cases are 49% less likely to develop long Covid compared to unvaccinated people. However:

“It remains relatively uncommon,” Hirschwerk said. “But we are experiencing an uptick in breakthrough cases compared to several months ago.”

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According to Hirschwerk, the increase in breakthrough infections is likely a combination of the more infectious Delta variant, some degree of waning immunity in people vaccinated over 6 months ago, and diminished community mitigation to prevent transmission.

So, based on data from before the Delta wave was in full, the vaccine only decreases chance of long Covid only by half.

How this chance will change as Delta takes it course, and after the eventual third booster, remains to be seen, of course.

EDIT - from here: https://www.healthline.com/health-news/people-who-were-vaccinated-and-got-covid-19-were-half-as-likely-to-have-long-term-symptoms (archive)

The study in question: https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(21)00460-6/fulltext (archive)
 
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Actually the Emergencies Act, which suspends the Charter of Rights and Freedoms, has not been invoked by the federal government in Canada. It's only the federal government that can invoke it. Provincial declarations of emergencies, which are actually fairly routine, do not suspend the Charter and the rights to which Canadians are entitled under it. The federal government under Justin Trudeau has explored the possibility of invoking the Emergencies Act to deal with the covid pandemic in communications with the provinces, but all provincial governments have expressed opposition to it.

But then this all makes covid lockdowns even more egregious, as the restrictions on fundamental rights could only be legal (in my view; not a lawyer) if the Charter was suspended by invoking the Emergencies Act. Anyways I will also vote for the People's Party.
I actually had no idea they didn't even invoke it at a Federal level. Then how the hell can they try to utilize something like the jab passport if it breaks every single fundamental right and freedom protected under the Charter. Beyond having gullible business owners treat their client base in a reprehensible fashion. Any business that tries to enforce this garbage, I find would be like financial suicide.
 
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@Drain Todger I remember the 90s. I miss the optimism, even though in retrospect I can see the foundations for all of this being laid back then.

@Heinrich Maneuver @teriyakiburns : this is why secondary legislation isan abomination and needs scrapped.
100%. Imagine trying to campaign for it though, especially in this political climate. Even if you could get past the midwits and their propaganda, you can bet any bill to scrap it would have special provisions to bring it back for "limited" emergency purposes.
 
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@Drain Todger I remember the 90s. I miss the optimism, even though in retrospect I can see the foundations for all of this being laid back then.


100%. Imagine trying to campaign for it though, especially in this political climate. Even if you could get past the midwits and their propaganda, you can bet any bill to scrap it would have special provisions to bring it back for "limited" emergency purposes.
Is true. And what could be a more dire emergency than a virus with a sub 2% death rate that especially smites the olds and the fats??
 
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whats the point , whats the point of vaccinating, whats the point

covid will never go away. it will come back everytime anything opens up. i hate this soy country, whats the goal? maybe its just reddit crowd is that cucked, normal people are banned on reddit. its just retarded outliers posting.

i feel like this neverending nightmare is so suffocating
Reddit has pretty much always been a doomer echo chamber. Any website with a heavy amount of moderation almost always leans left wing, especially authoritarian left, and that just so happens to be the side that's pushing for lockdownerism so much because they want big daddy gubbamint to take care of them since adulting is too hard.
 
And are the Uber drivers vaxxed? Alot of drivers are minorities who are hesitant to get jabbed.
It's enough to make one wonder if Uber (and other ride-share companies) will jump on the mandatory vaccine bandwagon or refuse to do so because of the minority angle. More curious is what might happen in Texas since Uber has promised safe harbor for women wanting abortions with the promise to pay for any legal fees in light of the new law. What happens if the driver spreads COVID to these women?

It's also supposed to be put top Parliament ervery 6 months for continued approval. Strangely enough, every six months there has been a sudden surge of cases or problems, which justify the government pressuring parliament to approve continued use of the act.
Sounds just like what happens here where the media reports numbers are going down than something almost always happens to lead the numbers to rapidly increase. Granted, I don't follow the numbers closely any more, but I'd be interested to know how many of these increases truly increase after large events and how many occur without such events and look more artificial.

The USA may have been founded by some wily survivors but the gene pool has gotten seriously watered down.
I think that during 9/11, people were so eager to open a can of whoop-ass on the perpetrators that they went along with the Government who promoted the Patriot Act as part of that plan without looking into what it all entailed.

It's become part of a bigger trend where people now believe they should accept everything being presented to them at face value and that questioning what's been said is wrong on some sort of level.

Maybe they flip the script—the whole zeitgeist, even—back and forth on purpose, to keep people confused and demoralized.
You make a good point. We had Desert Storm in the early 90's and many people jumped on the Patriotic Bandwagon to "Support the Troops." Shortly after that, we had the first wave of Political Correctness and the word-policing that came with it. That was the lead up to the events of the 2000s and 2010s you mentioned.

It truly feels as if this comes and goes in cycles so that anyone in the middle of the pendulum swings feel as if they don't know what to do or what's right any more.

I'm not surprised and I think it might be only the tip of the iceberg. Who knows if Pzifer and Moderna did more unorthodox tricks?
It really does feel as if Big Pharma has become more aggressive in its drug marketing and lobbying over time -- especially with the vaccines and increasing calls for 100% vaccination rates that are unrealistic. Even ordinary people have indirectly become drug shills when they dismiss existing medications as "horse dewormer" or other disparaging terms.

The aggressiveness from Big Pharma has gotten so bad that I've seen doctor's offices putting signs on their outer doors that state in some form, "We're too busy with patients to meet with Drug Reps. Please don't come in to see us."
 
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Lol. So much for "not at the peak yet".

I'll post the raw data from HHS when I can dig it up later.
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With more than half of people in the U.S. fully vaccinated, it's easy to think the country's situation with the COVID pandemic is improving. But when you look at the number of new cases nationwide, it's looking like a different story. At this time last year, during Labor Day weekend 2020, the seven-day average of daily new COVID-19 cases in the U.S. was about 40,000, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). This Labor Day weekend, it's nearly four times higher than that. The seven-day average as of Sept. 3 is 158,000 new cases per day, and that's largely because of the more contagious Delta variant. "We have an enormous amount of infections across the country," infectious disease expert Ashish Jha, MD, dean of Brown's School of Public Health, said in a Sept. 5 appearance on Fox News Sunday. "That said, I do think we are peaking, particularly across the American south."

Jha said specifically that cases in three hard-hit states are "starting to turn down." But with people traveling and gathering this holiday weekend, he predicts that things could change. "We might see a bump in the next week, 10 days. We have after every major holiday over the last year and a half, so I would not be surprised. But we have so many more tools now than we've ever had before," he added. "Certainly vaccines are one of them—more testing, mask wearing in key places. There's a lot we can do to prevent that kind of horrible surge that would have happened maybe last year given that when we didn't have all these tools."

At least for now, read on to find out which states are seeing numbers improve—and which areas of the country may have their worst days ahead of them due to Delta.

Florida
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Every time the country has seen a major surge in COVID cases, Florida has been hit particularly bad. Cases climbed in Jul. 2020, then from Dec. 2020 to Jan. 2021, and most recently, from Jul. to Aug. 2021. But now, the number of new cases is turning downward again. On Aug. 10, daily new cases peaked in the Sunshine State at 56,610, based on The New York Times data. As of Sept. 3, that number is down to 17,691.

However, as has always been the case with COVID, after a surge of new cases comes a surge of deaths: Florida's COVID-related death count is up 58 percent over the last two weeks. On Sept. 2, the Associated Press (AP) reported that Florida was experiencing its "deadliest wave of COVID-19 since the pandemic began." "Usually we serve between five and six families a week," a Tampa funeral home director told the AP. "Right now, we are probably seeing 12 to 13 new families every week. It's nonstop."

RELATED: These 6 States Are Where Your COVID Risk Is Highest This Labor Day Weekend.

Louisiana
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Daily new COVID cases peaked around the same time in Louisiana: Aug. 9 saw the highest number of the pandemic, with 16,543 new cases, according to The New York Times. As of the most recent data from Sept. 3, the state reported 2,625 cases.

Louisiana has seen its hospitalization and death toll improve over the past two weeks, but those numbers could be underreported as the state is currently also grappling with the devastating effects of Hurricane Ida.


Arkansas
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Arkansas witnessed its biggest surge of the pandemic in January, with its highest number of cases in a day on New Year's Day at 4,304. But its Aug. 19 count came close with 3,549, according to The New York Times data. Now, per the most recent numbers from Sept. 5, daily new cases are down to 1,072. Deaths and hospitalization rates are declining as well, indicating Arkansas may be on the other side of its Delta surge.

The Northeast's Delta surge may still be ahead.
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Jha, however, did not have such great news for other parts of the country. "Infection numbers are still rising in the Midwest and Great Plains and the Northeast, but at much slower rates, particularly in states that have high vaccination numbers," he said.

Recently, former Food and Drug Administration (FDA) commissioner Scott Gottlieb, MD, told CNBC's Squawk Box on Sept. 3 that the Northeast hasn't seen the worst of Delta yet. "I think there's sort of a perception that we're sort of through this Delta wave here in the Northeast because we've seen Delta cases go up and go down in places like the New York metropolitan region," he said. "[But] I don't think that that was the true Delta wave. I think that that was a Delta warning." Gottlieb predicted that northeastern states will see the Delta wave "start to build after Labor Day."

Like Jha, however, Gottlieb believes northern states' Delta-related spikes won't be as high as the numbers southern states saw as a result of the variant, thanks to high vaccination and previous infection rates, "which we also know is protective," he said.

Florida
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Every time the country has seen a major surge in COVID cases, Florida has been hit particularly bad. Cases climbed in Jul. 2020, then from Dec. 2020 to Jan. 2021, and most recently, from Jul. to Aug. 2021. But now, the number of new cases is turning downward again. On Aug. 10, daily new cases peaked in the Sunshine State at 56,610, based on The New York Times data. As of Sept. 3, that number is down to 17,691.

However, as has always been the case with COVID, after a surge of new cases comes a surge of deaths: Florida's COVID-related death count is up 58 percent over the last two weeks. On Sept. 2, the Associated Press (AP) reported that Florida was experiencing its "deadliest wave of COVID-19 since the pandemic began." "Usually we serve between five and six families a week," a Tampa funeral home director told the AP. "Right now, we are probably seeing 12 to 13 new families every week. It's nonstop."
 
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Here's a low IQ take I've been thinking about recently. The way the vaccines are being pushed reminds me a bit of what Naomi Klein summarized in the Shock Doctrine. Some big corporations taking advantage of a new crisis to quickly capitalize on it as much as they can before the dust settles and people realize what's going on. Only this time for the first time it's happening on a global scale.
 
Lol. So much for "not at the peak yet".

I'll post the raw data from HHS when I can dig it up later.

I think my state has peaked. Everyone around me done got Covid..immunity to Delta is soon if not already.

Gonna be a good fall/Winter for Florida but not for the rest of the country as some narratives about Vaccines are about to be disproven.

50% of Florida is Vaccinated, it didn't matter for us...the Media conveniently doesn't cite that number. You would of expected some impact atleast.

So using the 70% ratio for herd immunity to a strain, 15 million Floridians got Covid already.

30,000 died supposedly.

Disabled or Long Covid unknown but all in all its not bad. School has been opened for 30 days so there is no surge coming here. Its already happened.

I have laid out the fact above in an easy to understand Reddit format. Its probably over for Florida for now
 
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I'm fucking pissed about the fact we even have a delta variant. All people had to do was wear the mask, get the jab and we'd all have our freedom again, but because a bunch of hicks out in Gary Indiana had to go their own way, we're in year 3 of covid.

Fucking rednecks man.
All the other stupidity in this statement aside, are you aware that Gary, Indiana is almost entirely blacks? I know when he died he was bleached white, but Michael Jackson started off a black dude.
 
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whats the point , whats the point of vaccinating, whats the point

covid will never go away. it will come back everytime anything opens up. i hate this soy country, whats the goal? maybe its just reddit crowd is that cucked, normal people are banned on reddit. its just retarded outliers posting.

i feel like this neverending nightmare is so suffocating
I like how this guy doesn't question the efficacy of these vaccines. Anyone with a shred of critical thinking skills would be curious as to how being double dosed with these supposedly reliable vaccines did shit to prevent infection, but I guess questioning Fauci and the CDC is too much for some people.

And of course, god forbid people try to live their lives after being promised that the vaccines would be "salvation".
 
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Here in Leafland, I saw a few headlines recently, where "experts" claim that come Fall/Winter, we could see as many as 10 000 new cases per day in Canada. Huh, that sounds pretty familiar, right? Same thing they said last year, except last year they were claiming 10-15 000/day in Ontario, alone. I thought that number sounded like bullshit then, too, so I looked up the nation's most recent case count. Not even once, throughout this whole shitshow of a year and a half, did we ever hit 10 000 new cases in a single day, nationwide. Not fucking once. And now we're vaccinated and going to hit it? Yeah, sure, whatever you say, turbo nerds. They're just pulling big, scary numbers out of their assholes, and banking on people being too stupid, or naive, or lazy to question or check into things for themselves
 
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