Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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It's too bad so few MTFs would accept the 0-depth thing. They get a realistic coochie and don't have to deal with further outrageous medical problems. The unwanted gentleman bits would be gone forever and they wouldn't have to dilate until they rip themselves into hamburger meat down there. If sex is painful and dangerous for them and childbirth is absolutely impossible then what good is getting the hole at all?

I think 0-depth ought to be the *only* procedure available until medical tech improves drastically.
 
Time for my own dumb question: why not try to grow a dick the way they used to regrow noses back in syphilis times, by attaching an arm flap to the crotch or something, or doing some sort of skin expansion beforehand? I know it’s massively more complicated than that but why aren’t alternative techniques being at least attempted rather than “hack skin off of a forearm and leave it permanently looking like you’re suffered a horrendous injury”?

They do it with a flap from the abdomen. The problem really is that the structures of a penis can't be grown as easily as skin or cartilage can. Also that the type of skin is different, hence the newer exploration of buccal grafts. I believe there actually were a couple posts in this thread with an abdominal flap phalloplasty?


I stumbled on a recent article exploring methods of facial feminization surgery. Descriptions of the surgeries splits the face into thirds: upper, middle, lower. Ideally, all the procedures described should be done for a feminine facial structure.
"In the frontal view, the male face appears square and muscular with strong supraorbital ridges and jawline, while the female face appears more oval with a smooth forehead and small, pointed chin. In the lateral view, men exhibit frontal bossing, while females have sloped foreheads. Hence the FFS surgeries comprise frontal bossing correction, rhinoplasty, jaw and chin contouring, and Adam’s apple shave."

Source.


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( a ) Extent of exposure done for forehead and orbital contouring. ( b ) The margins of the frontal sinus have been marked with a pencil along with areas of orbital shave. ( c ) Cuts marked using a fissure burr. ( d ) Outer table of frontal sinus removed showing mucosa of frontal sinus cavity. ( e ) Outer table being put back in place after contouring and reduction of nasion. ( f ) Fixation using 1.3-mm titanium plates and 3-mm self-drilling titanium screws. ( g ) Use of 1.4-mm titanium mesh instead of titanium plate. ( h ) Forehead profile seen intraoperative. ( i ) Preoperative forehead profile for comparison

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( a ) Severe hypertrophy of frontal sinus; osteotomy cuts marked for frontal sinus and orbital rim shave. ( b ) Outer table removed and nasion area bone remodeling done. ( c ) Titanium mesh fixed over the defect after sinus exteriorization. ( d ) Clinical profile before. ( e ) Clinical profile after. ( f ) Postoperative CT scan. CT, computed tomography.

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V-line jaw shave. ( a ) Mandible body exposed. ( b ) Pencil marking of osteotomy. ( c ) After mandibular contouring showing preserved mental nerves on either side. ( d–f ) Postoperative CT scans showing reduction in front and side views. CT, ...

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( a–f ) Preoperative views before FFS. ( g–m ) Postoperative views 1 year after FFS. FFS, facial feminization surgery.
 
They do it with a flap from the abdomen. The problem really is that the structures of a penis can't be grown as easily as skin or cartilage can. Also that the type of skin is different, hence the newer exploration of buccal grafts. I believe there actually were a couple posts in this thread with an abdominal flap phalloplasty?


I stumbled on a recent article exploring methods of facial feminization surgery. Descriptions of the surgeries splits the face into thirds: upper, middle, lower. Ideally, all the procedures described should be done for a feminine facial structure.
"In the frontal view, the male face appears square and muscular with strong supraorbital ridges and jawline, while the female face appears more oval with a smooth forehead and small, pointed chin. In the lateral view, men exhibit frontal bossing, while females have sloped foreheads. Hence the FFS surgeries comprise frontal bossing correction, rhinoplasty, jaw and chin contouring, and Adam’s apple shave."

Source.


View attachment 2529918( a ) Extent of exposure done for forehead and orbital contouring. ( b ) The margins of the frontal sinus have been marked with a pencil along with areas of orbital shave. ( c ) Cuts marked using a fissure burr. ( d ) Outer table of frontal sinus removed showing mucosa of frontal sinus cavity. ( e ) Outer table being put back in place after contouring and reduction of nasion. ( f ) Fixation using 1.3-mm titanium plates and 3-mm self-drilling titanium screws. ( g ) Use of 1.4-mm titanium mesh instead of titanium plate. ( h ) Forehead profile seen intraoperative. ( i ) Preoperative forehead profile for comparison

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( a ) Severe hypertrophy of frontal sinus; osteotomy cuts marked for frontal sinus and orbital rim shave. ( b ) Outer table removed and nasion area bone remodeling done. ( c ) Titanium mesh fixed over the defect after sinus exteriorization. ( d ) Clinical profile before. ( e ) Clinical profile after. ( f ) Postoperative CT scan. CT, computed tomography.

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V-line jaw shave. ( a ) Mandible body exposed. ( b ) Pencil marking of osteotomy. ( c ) After mandibular contouring showing preserved mental nerves on either side. ( d–f ) Postoperative CT scans showing reduction in front and side views. CT, ...

View attachment 2529928( a–f ) Preoperative views before FFS. ( g–m ) Postoperative views 1 year after FFS. FFS, facial feminization surgery.
Can someone medical tell me if are there complications to literally shaving down holes into someone's fucking skull right above their nose like that and into the sinus cavity?
What the fuck?
I didn't realise it left gaping holes with a bit of titanium mesh shoved over the sinus cavity.
 
They do it with a flap from the abdomen. The problem really is that the structures of a penis can't be grown as easily as skin or cartilage can. Also that the type of skin is different, hence the newer exploration of buccal grafts. I believe there actually were a couple posts in this thread with an abdominal flap phalloplasty?


I stumbled on a recent article exploring methods of facial feminization surgery. Descriptions of the surgeries splits the face into thirds: upper, middle, lower. Ideally, all the procedures described should be done for a feminine facial structure.
"In the frontal view, the male face appears square and muscular with strong supraorbital ridges and jawline, while the female face appears more oval with a smooth forehead and small, pointed chin. In the lateral view, men exhibit frontal bossing, while females have sloped foreheads. Hence the FFS surgeries comprise frontal bossing correction, rhinoplasty, jaw and chin contouring, and Adam’s apple shave."

Source.


View attachment 2529918( a ) Extent of exposure done for forehead and orbital contouring. ( b ) The margins of the frontal sinus have been marked with a pencil along with areas of orbital shave. ( c ) Cuts marked using a fissure burr. ( d ) Outer table of frontal sinus removed showing mucosa of frontal sinus cavity. ( e ) Outer table being put back in place after contouring and reduction of nasion. ( f ) Fixation using 1.3-mm titanium plates and 3-mm self-drilling titanium screws. ( g ) Use of 1.4-mm titanium mesh instead of titanium plate. ( h ) Forehead profile seen intraoperative. ( i ) Preoperative forehead profile for comparison

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( a ) Severe hypertrophy of frontal sinus; osteotomy cuts marked for frontal sinus and orbital rim shave. ( b ) Outer table removed and nasion area bone remodeling done. ( c ) Titanium mesh fixed over the defect after sinus exteriorization. ( d ) Clinical profile before. ( e ) Clinical profile after. ( f ) Postoperative CT scan. CT, computed tomography.

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V-line jaw shave. ( a ) Mandible body exposed. ( b ) Pencil marking of osteotomy. ( c ) After mandibular contouring showing preserved mental nerves on either side. ( d–f ) Postoperative CT scans showing reduction in front and side views. CT, ...

View attachment 2529928( a–f ) Preoperative views before FFS. ( g–m ) Postoperative views 1 year after FFS. FFS, facial feminization surgery.
LMAO he still has an obvious manly man-face.
 
first millennea: LEECHES
second millennea: genital mutilation is validating
2021: LEECHES
Hey, don't be disrespecting leeches. You want venous blood out of a congested area, you go to the leeches. Plastic surgery, sure, but you reattach a finger, you want leeches there. They're single-use medical devices, thousands of years tested and FDA approved since 2004. They deserve a hero's retirement, but after all their hard work we unceremoniously euth them in alcohol.

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Fuck troons. Think of all the poor leeches who gave their lives so that goofball's fake dick didn't turn into a rotting blood balloon.
 
It's too bad so few MTFs would accept the 0-depth thing. They get a realistic coochie and don't have to deal with further outrageous medical problems. The unwanted gentleman bits would be gone forever and they wouldn't have to dilate until they rip themselves into hamburger meat down there. If sex is painful and dangerous for them and childbirth is absolutely impossible then what good is getting the hole at all?

I think 0-depth ought to be the *only* procedure available until medical tech improves drastically.
Because they're all about being "uwu bimbo slut holes"
 
They do it with a flap from the abdomen. The problem really is that the structures of a penis can't be grown as easily as skin or cartilage can. Also that the type of skin is different, hence the newer exploration of buccal grafts. I believe there actually were a couple posts in this thread with an abdominal flap phalloplasty?
You are right, I think my problem is that I keep forgetting the 'need' to put an urethra in there because they're all obsessed with peeing standing up. If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to choose a type of phalloplasty (it is unlikely anyone could hold a gun to someone's head for as long as it would take, but let's roll with it) I would choose a fake dick that looked reasonable and didn't require me to lose a big chunk of flesh off of my body over a fake dick that allowed me to pee standing up. Plenty of men don't pee standing up anyway so who cares that much?

I stumbled on a recent article exploring methods of facial feminization surgery. Descriptions of the surgeries splits the face into thirds: upper, middle, lower. Ideally, all the procedures described should be done for a feminine facial structure.
"In the frontal view, the male face appears square and muscular with strong supraorbital ridges and jawline, while the female face appears more oval with a smooth forehead and small, pointed chin. In the lateral view, men exhibit frontal bossing, while females have sloped foreheads. Hence the FFS surgeries comprise frontal bossing correction, rhinoplasty, jaw and chin contouring, and Adam’s apple shave."

Source.


View attachment 2529918( a ) Extent of exposure done for forehead and orbital contouring. ( b ) The margins of the frontal sinus have been marked with a pencil along with areas of orbital shave. ( c ) Cuts marked using a fissure burr. ( d ) Outer table of frontal sinus removed showing mucosa of frontal sinus cavity. ( e ) Outer table being put back in place after contouring and reduction of nasion. ( f ) Fixation using 1.3-mm titanium plates and 3-mm self-drilling titanium screws. ( g ) Use of 1.4-mm titanium mesh instead of titanium plate. ( h ) Forehead profile seen intraoperative. ( i ) Preoperative forehead profile for comparison

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( a ) Severe hypertrophy of frontal sinus; osteotomy cuts marked for frontal sinus and orbital rim shave. ( b ) Outer table removed and nasion area bone remodeling done. ( c ) Titanium mesh fixed over the defect after sinus exteriorization. ( d ) Clinical profile before. ( e ) Clinical profile after. ( f ) Postoperative CT scan. CT, computed tomography.

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V-line jaw shave. ( a ) Mandible body exposed. ( b ) Pencil marking of osteotomy. ( c ) After mandibular contouring showing preserved mental nerves on either side. ( d–f ) Postoperative CT scans showing reduction in front and side views. CT, ...

View attachment 2529928( a–f ) Preoperative views before FFS. ( g–m ) Postoperative views 1 year after FFS. FFS, facial feminization surgery.
The person on top has quite a good result but the old dude just looks the same but with a clip in his hair. I guess his porn fetish didn't tell him how to use purple shampoo, either.

The supraorbital ridges are something I was talking about somewhere else in the context of FtMs; the fact that they don't have a strong brow is why so many of them turn out with faces that look permanently surprised and childlike, because your brain mismatches the 'male' features with the clearly feminine upper face.

I did look up 'facial masculinization surgery' and it does exist, but currently it mostly seems to be done on men who want Chad jaws lol

Edit: I can't say I blame them, who wouldn't want to get this done?

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It's too bad so few MTFs would accept the 0-depth thing. They get a realistic coochie and don't have to deal with further outrageous medical problems. The unwanted gentleman bits would be gone forever and they wouldn't have to dilate until they rip themselves into hamburger meat down there. If sex is painful and dangerous for them and childbirth is absolutely impossible then what good is getting the hole at all?
Nah 0 depth is still liable to be botched and only looks good compared to full SRS - the doctor is still flaying and rearranging the penis while placing the "clit" and urethral opening properly is difficult independent of 0 depth vs. full butchery because men and women just have different anatomy. There is no dilation and much less to no infection potential because there is not a gaping wound but there are still potential issues with leftover erectile tissue, "squirting" (read: ejaculating) through the urethra, and even the "clit" necrotizing.

Here is a NeoVaginaDisasters post describing just how wrong this surgery can go.

EDIT: Wow troons don't have a fucking clue about female anatomy, in that post I linked the guy mentions he had "zero depth" surgery but still thinks he has a vagina. I know gay guys who aren't this clueless about women's parts.
 
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Nah 0 depth is still liable to be botched and only looks good compared to full SRS - the doctor is still flaying and rearranging the penis while placing the "clit" and urethral opening properly is difficult independent of 0 depth vs. full butchery because men and women just have different anatomy. There is no dilation and much less to no infection potential because there is not a gaping wound but there are still potential issues with leftover erectile tissue, "squirting" (read: ejaculating) through the urethra, and even the "clit" necrotizing.

Here is a NeoVaginaDisasters post describing just how wrong this surgery can go.

EDIT: Wow troons don't have a fucking clue about female anatomy, in that post I linked the guy mentions he had "zero depth" surgery but still thinks he has a vagina. I know gay guys who aren't this clueless about women's parts.
There is a post on that site where a guy describes having his balls cut off only to realise it was a fetish all along.

These guys are acting out the pre nut bravado that vanishes the moment you nut.

"Im gonna cum 10 times *nut* nah not interested anymore"
 
If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to choose a type of phalloplasty
I would just ask they pull the trigger already.

There is a post on that site where a guy describes having his balls cut off only to realise it was a fetish all along.
That's the only good thing coming out of it, at least fetishists are permanently unable to 1 reproduce 2 cum. That way they're less likely to assault women.
 
They do it with a flap from the abdomen. The problem really is that the structures of a penis can't be grown as easily as skin or cartilage can. Also that the type of skin is different, hence the newer exploration of buccal grafts. I believe there actually were a couple posts in this thread with an abdominal flap phalloplasty?


I stumbled on a recent article exploring methods of facial feminization surgery. Descriptions of the surgeries splits the face into thirds: upper, middle, lower. Ideally, all the procedures described should be done for a feminine facial structure.
"In the frontal view, the male face appears square and muscular with strong supraorbital ridges and jawline, while the female face appears more oval with a smooth forehead and small, pointed chin. In the lateral view, men exhibit frontal bossing, while females have sloped foreheads. Hence the FFS surgeries comprise frontal bossing correction, rhinoplasty, jaw and chin contouring, and Adam’s apple shave."

Source.


View attachment 2529918( a ) Extent of exposure done for forehead and orbital contouring. ( b ) The margins of the frontal sinus have been marked with a pencil along with areas of orbital shave. ( c ) Cuts marked using a fissure burr. ( d ) Outer table of frontal sinus removed showing mucosa of frontal sinus cavity. ( e ) Outer table being put back in place after contouring and reduction of nasion. ( f ) Fixation using 1.3-mm titanium plates and 3-mm self-drilling titanium screws. ( g ) Use of 1.4-mm titanium mesh instead of titanium plate. ( h ) Forehead profile seen intraoperative. ( i ) Preoperative forehead profile for comparison

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( a ) Severe hypertrophy of frontal sinus; osteotomy cuts marked for frontal sinus and orbital rim shave. ( b ) Outer table removed and nasion area bone remodeling done. ( c ) Titanium mesh fixed over the defect after sinus exteriorization. ( d ) Clinical profile before. ( e ) Clinical profile after. ( f ) Postoperative CT scan. CT, computed tomography.

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V-line jaw shave. ( a ) Mandible body exposed. ( b ) Pencil marking of osteotomy. ( c ) After mandibular contouring showing preserved mental nerves on either side. ( d–f ) Postoperative CT scans showing reduction in front and side views. CT, ...

View attachment 2529928( a–f ) Preoperative views before FFS. ( g–m ) Postoperative views 1 year after FFS. FFS, facial feminization surgery.

That's got to be a massive risk for stuff like gum / jaw erosion and sinus issues. I don't even want to imagine what would happen if you were in a car accident and got hit with an airbag.
 
Can someone medical tell me if are there complications to literally shaving down holes into someone's fucking skull right above their nose like that and into the sinus cavity?
What the fuck?
Messing with the frontal (forehead) region should be relatively safe (no major nerves; bleeding is a problem with any meddling with the scalp but surgeons are used to it). They might literally hit a nerve if the jaw shave is done too zealously; the Lingual Nerve runs along a groove at the medial ("inner") side of the mandible. But then, jaw shaves are done regularly to non-gender-confused women, so plastic surgeons have plenty of experience. The fun would really begin if gender-confused men or women become obsessed with the maxilla like "incels" do; that region is not to be meddled with lightly.

It just occurred to me how would the man's voice change if they change the shapes of the frontal sinuses? It will definitely be less resonant and less deep, but does it mean more feminine? The bets are all off; the voice might end up with a Donald-Duck nasal quality.
 
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In korea they shave off the jaw bone almost to nonexistence, it shouldn't be a problem to have slim pointy anime jaw
Not just South Korea, pretty much everywhere. There's the normal reduction and the v-line surgery which cuts off the corners to give a v-shape. There's also chin reduction.
I had heard there was sketchier stuff done in South Korea that involves breaking the jaw and reconstructing it, but I can't find anything on those procedures.
 

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If someone put a gun to my head and forced me to choose a type of phalloplasty
I would chose death. I'd rather have a quick death than having my genitals multilated, an ugly flesh roll attached to my crotch, infections, necrosis, hair on and inside (!) the fake dick and so on. The fake dick abomination would lead to suicide sooner or later anyway so better make it quick & just pull the trigger.
 
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