Philosophy Tube / Oliver Lennard / Oliver "Olly" Thorn / Abigail Thorn - Breadtube's Patrick Bateman.

YouTube doesn't let you pull up all comments from a given user, but the profile card shows the beginnings of the last two comments:
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So I searched for the full comments on those two videos and found the following chains. Note that replies are displayed in reverse chronological order.
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She mentions being a Patreon supporter of his- Olly prints out a list of his supporters to thank them after every video. On the newest one there is no Stephanie L., just a Stephanie Kuzminsky which turns up this channel that is subscribed to Contrapoints. However, people don't always have their Patreon account in their real name, and also you may need to pay a certain amount of money to make it onto the list.
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I also checked the end credits of his most recent videos and no Stephanie L. ever turns up. Again, people often use fake names when supporting on Patreon so we can't really draw any conclusions from this.
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ETA- Olly reads his comments section every video, it could be possible that Olly got the idea to pretend to be a woman with Turner syndrome after reading one of Stephanie L's comments about being a woman with Turner syndrome. Based off of the writing style though these seem to be the same person. This is incredibly odd.
 
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I’ve got no other theories except this, and even I can’t fathom this one
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Jim Sterling. Now known as Stephanie Sterling. Yeah I know, kind of insane; I’m not econvinced of it myself, however:
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If you read Jim’s tweets he does display some of the same writing quirks as snl, including the emphatic use of asterisks, the y’alling and the oddly spaced hyphens. Jim is anglo-American so at very least that could explain the odd mixture of British and American vernacular.

On the other hand, there’s nothing to suggest he’s particularly obsessed with Olly. He has a troon gf and seems happy with them. Also he’s not afraid to wade into endless petty arguments on his main Twitter so i don’t think he’d bother with an alt. Plus I can’t find any other connections to the personal info divulged by Stephanie L or snl such as the distant Judaism, veganism or Vermont connections.

I doubt that Jim Sterling would be obsessed with Olly enough to run an alt, but he’s the only “Stephanie” I can easily personally connect to Olly as they seem to know eachother.
 

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If you read Jim’s tweets he does display some of the same writing quirks as snl, including the emphatic use of asterisks, the y’alling and the oddly spaced hyphens. Jim is anglo-American so at very least that could explain the odd mixture of British and American vernacular.

On the other hand, there’s nothing to suggest he’s particularly obsessed with Olly. He has a troon gf and seems happy with them. Also he’s not afraid to wade into endless petty arguments on his main Twitter so i don’t think he’d bother with an alt. Plus I can’t find any other connections to the personal info divulged by Stephanie L or snl such as the distant Judaism, veganism or Vermont connections.

I doubt that Jim Sterling would be obsessed with Olly enough to run an alt, but he’s the only “Stephanie” I can easily personally connect to Olly as they seem to know eachother.
Nah, Sterling trooned out roughly at the same time Olly did IIRC. More importantly he's been a raging faggot much longer and leaned into it pretty hard so I just can't see him claiming to be intersex like some AGP TRAs do. There's no contact point or overlap between their core content either and I doubt they met in the USA - Olly's been busy fucking Nyk in the ass and Sterling's been busy being cucked by his hambeast wife while making his gayming content and wrestling.
 
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One hour after Olly tweets about one of the comments he received on the "Food" video, Stephanie L replies to it. So in an hour Stephanie L saw Olly's tweet and then waded through hundreds of Youtube comments to find it just to reply "LMAO BRUH I- 💀💀💀".

Stephanie constantly patrols the Youtube comments section of Olly's videos. Nine hours after the above comment Stephanie then goes on to explain to someone how Olly is giving away his Philosophy degree for free (the exchange is odd too, Stephanie knows way too much about Olly and even the op is weirded out). This isn't even on the "Food" video however, this is in response to the SOCIAL CONSTRUCTS video that was posted on July 9th, 2021. Two weeks ago Stephanie was still going through comments on a video posted in July.
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This massive wall of text was posted just yesterday in response to a comment that was left on his Social Constructs video yesterday:
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So utterly unhinged if it isn't Olly, so utterly unhinged if it is. I have no clue what to make of any of this. I'll keep digging through but had to share this because I'm genuinely baffled.

ETA- Stephanie L is actively responding to comments left on the "Identity: A Trans Coming Out Story". Screenshots below are the most recent comments on "Identity" that Stephanie has replied to, meaning Stephanie is constantly checking in on Olly's comments section for a video that was posted January 31st, 2021. Stephanie also responds to these comments within 24 hours (sometimes as quick as 7 hours) after they're posted, meaning Stephanie would be checking in on the comments section persistently.
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This has to be Olly, he's the only one that would be getting notifications for new comments posted on his old videos, right?? How else would Stephanie be able to respond to this comment 7 hours after it was posted??? Remember the video was posted on 1/31/2021, and this comment was left on 7/12.
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Made an account to write this. You can compare two people's writing styles on this website here: http://www.utpsyc.org/synch/

So I checked out Stephanie L and SNL825 to see if the computer would pick up on any similarities. Bear in mind that the score is between .50 and 1, with most people hitting an average of .78.

I copied and pasted the most recent comments from Stephanie and SNL825. The computer needs at least 50 words to make an accurate analysis, so I used over 500 words from each account.

SNL825 and Stephanie L are completely unconnected, right? So they should - in theory - have pretty different writing styles and would therefore presumably hit a below average connectedness score - so something under .78...? To quote the website: "To give you an idea, most LSM scores for general writing samples range between .60 and .90" - so an LSM score of .90 would be close, but still fairly average in terms of showing a connection between these two people.

According to this website, Stepanie and SNL825 have a writing style similarity of '1'. That is to say that these two "completely unrelated" people write in extremely similar ways. So similar in fact, that they literally can't achieve a higher score. To quote the website: "LSM score is far above average."

Obviously this is circumstantial and not conclusive proof that these two people are related at all. But it is fascinating to me that these two apparent strangers write in such a similar way that the computer ended up giving them the highest possible score. That's definitely odd, right?

Gonna go on the hunt for some of Ollie / Abi's writing now since this has really piqued my interest.

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Yeah this looks very damning for Olly- given all of this and the Twitter account. I’m not sure I even want to consider that a fan could be this insanely obsessive. The character of Stephanie does seem a bit odd, however:

Olly’s transition has demonstrated he has some major delusions about being a woman. Half this thread is documenting his narc outbursts and delusions about his fame, appearance, talent etc. It’s not that far fetched to think a man who went so off the rails in lockdown that he decided to “become a woman” would also have an insanity-fuelled online second identity as an /educated American cis intersex woman/. Especially one he could use to defend himself online from eebil cis terven women and anti-trans bigots.

I think faxmachine and esmeggs hit this out of the park. Absolutely insane posting from “Stephanie” regardless of who’s behind the monitor. It’s almost disturbing.
 
@Tombigbee
At 43:30 he does an obnoxious semi name drop about a “reasonably quite famous man in Britain” who came to Olly’s dinner party and who says he liked the stupid cake Olly’ baked. The point was that people enjoyed the cake but he slid an obnoxious semi-brag in to it. He doesn’t actually name the person though, which is also obnoxious. Tee hee hee.
Does this mean he served up the lemon drizzle cake from the video? As in the one he'd already cut a slice out of? It doesn't really matter that much but if I was throwing a dinner party and famous people were attending I'd try and bring out an entire cake rather than serving my video leftovers.

This also strongly suggests he's been reading his thread again because there were several comments about how the cake looked bad.
 
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Does this mean he served up the lemon drizzle cake from the video? As in the one he'd already cut a slice out of? It doesn't really matter that much but if I was throwing a dinner party and famous people were attending I'd try and bring out an entire cake rather than serving my video leftovers.

This also strongly suggests he's been reading his thread again because there were several comments about how the cake looked bad.
No, he made a practice cake a week before the video and served it at a dinner party. But yes the same recipe.

I just brought it up because he was saying he made a practice cake and that people liked it but he used that as an excuse to name drop (only without dropping the name.) The fact that a semi famous person was at the dinner party had nothing to do with the story he told. That’s our narc Olly.
 
I took one for the team and watched a bit of this Twitch stream. I don’t have time stamps. Just a few comments.

Near the end they watch various random videos - their commentary centers around whether the depicted women make Olly horny or not. One is a video of women like logsplitting. One of the panelists (not Olly) says, “that’s a BIG woman” when one of the women appear on screen. Coming on the heels of his last video I thought it ironic. But these stupid streams have a very junior high male locker room vibe to them. Someone else (I think Devon, the FTM) says “look at the fucking arms!” about one of the logsplitters with fairly muscular arms. It came across to me in a “ew gross” way. Which again, like any of these degenerates should judge people’s appearances.

Someone says something about Abi taking estrogen and Olly says “that’s never been publicly confirmed” or something like that. So he’s still leaving it ambiguous.

At one point they find a video where Olly really finds the woman hot, loves the American accent, and goes on about it. It’s gross. It reminded me of one of those Tube POWAH cartoons. Olly jokes that he needs to turn his camera off for a bit (so he can jack to her.). It’s at about 1:45:00. They are watching a spoken word performance by a brunette young lady with glasses. The other panelists constantly make fun of her voice which is incredible to me. Her voice is just standard uptalk, nothing special. But it’s pretty rich to mock someone for their speaking voice when you have “Abigail Thorn” on your panel. Fucking assholes. The woman says something about being paid to have sex in a parallel universe and the other panelists are like “uhhhh what universe would that be? No you wouldn’t.” As in she’s too unattractive. They also mock her clothes. I would recommend watching this part. I guess I’m naive but I was surprised to see what assholes they all were acting like in spite of their alleged leftism/feminism and how openly hostile they were to some random woman in a video.

They are making fun of the actor Chris Evans and Olly pipes up and makes a joke about the opinions are each their own and he’d love to work for Disney or Marvel. Cause I’m sure casting agents are watching.

At another point they are joking about possible 9/11 causes and the other panelists explain to Olly that most of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. I don’t know whether he was playing the bimbo or if he really didn’t know but I thought that was embarassing. I guess he was young during 9/11.

Olly says a Django actor asked him if transitioning changed his voice and Olly said he went “NOPE” in his full male baritone and the guy was impressed. [\spoiler]

 
I took one for the team and watched a bit of this Twitch stream. I don’t have time stamps. Just a few comments.

Near the end they watch various random videos - their commentary centers around whether the depicted women make Olly horny or not. One is a video of women like logsplitting. One of the panelists (not Olly) says, “that’s a BIG woman” when one of the women appear on screen. Coming on the heels of his last video I thought it ironic. But these stupid streams have a very junior high male locker room vibe to them. Someone else (I think Devon, the FTM) says “look at the fucking arms!” about one of the logsplitters with fairly muscular arms. It came across to me in a “ew gross” way. Which again, like any of these degenerates should judge people’s appearances.

Someone says something about Abi taking estrogen and Olly says “that’s never been publicly confirmed” or something like that. So he’s still leaving it ambiguous.

At one point they find a video where Olly really finds the woman hot, loves the American accent, and goes on about it. It’s gross. It reminded me of one of those Tube POWAH cartoons. Olly jokes that he needs to turn his camera off for a bit (so he can jack to her.). It’s at about 1:45:00. They are watching a spoken word performance by a brunette young lady with glasses. The other panelists constantly make fun of her voice which is incredible to me. Her voice is just standard uptalk, nothing special. But it’s pretty rich to mock someone for their speaking voice when you have “Abigail Thorn” on your panel. Fucking assholes. The woman says something about being paid to have sex in a parallel universe and the other panelists are like “uhhhh what universe would that be? No you wouldn’t.” As in she’s too unattractive. They also mock her clothes. I would recommend watching this part. I guess I’m naive but I was surprised to see what assholes they all were acting like in spite of their alleged leftism/feminism and how openly hostile they were to some random woman in a video.

They are making fun of the actor Chris Evans and Olly pipes up and makes a joke about the opinions are each their own and he’d love to work for Disney or Marvel. Cause I’m sure casting agents are watching.

At another point they are joking about possible 9/11 causes and the other panelists explain to Olly that most of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. I don’t know whether he was playing the bimbo or if he really didn’t know but I thought that was embarassing. I guess he was young during 9/11.

Olly says a Django actor asked him if transitioning changed his voice and Olly said he went “NOPE” in his full male baritone and the guy was impressed. [\spoiler]

even completely objectively, that stream is a shit show : their mics are all at different levels, and all too loud, Tube's is fucking clipping all over the place and sounds god awful he seems to have his mic ABOVE his pop shield leaving it completely exposed? like it just there for decoration cos thats what other people seem to have? lmao

They have like 4 different noise sources/voices all competing and its just a mess.

Russo anthem salute 'joke' is painful levels of cringe.
it just never calms down, gets onto an actual track of content which is followable, its just a disjointed mess of piss poor production and complete absence of content
Im fucking jumping around on my volume non stop to try to hear anything of the video then their voices come in insanely loud and clipping, Powah you fucking idiot- you see those red bits on your sound meter?
that big bad- them no good,
Obvious liar, making out he edits his own stuff or has a single clue about jack shit, lol.

Yes, the girls standup is painfully shit, but its honestly not much worse than their stuff.
But why have they got to find some undergraduates crap routine and rip the whole length of it anyway? who cares? why?
they are basically just being not-very-nice to some random girl.
I guess they probably be like 'she's a lib! shes an oppressor' but LOL the privilege of all of them, they cant even lean on that crap excuse for trying to rag people.
"Abi" ripping on ''the voice'' (indeed just a normal young American woman voice) = Staggering lack of self awareness.

So its not just ''British'' and ''middle aged'' women he hates. Good to know.

Lmfao the idea of any of them taking the piss out of her looks. They are just like...you know when snotty little kids, who havent had any experience of being bullies before, due to their low social standing all their lives, get the opportunity and try their hand at it? and just like...try to pick on anything they can think of despite it having no ammunition in it?
its like that.

So, just showing us completely unrelated (occasionally very dated much discussed) videos- as if the audience will just find anything they deign to opine on, interesting worthwhile content. And then not saying anything anyway lol.
They just stare into space while the videos play, absolutely no banter at all (also, lol at the cluelessness of Olly not knowing why someone would need to saw off a shotgun.
utterly uninterested /unable to empathise with any other point of view / way of life than his own).

all the way through- they've just got NOTHING to add even without being funny they dont even have any observations or conversation, to anyones viewing experience- the only thing they do constantly interrupt and disturb it with is joking about how horny themselves/each other are.

We're calling it junior high / middle school craic, but honestly it would be funnier to hear kids that age talking and at least saying absurd stuff, than these creepy, cynical, painfully slow, grifting old drips.

Also: sigh, why always this sort of thing? flagrantly unlikely to be an ironic joke
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(huh, the company initials spell out ABBS. Tube calls himself that, gross. )

@Tombigbee
I dont know how you got through the whole of it.
Their stream.....the utter state of the audio of it demands all of your attention, but you get nothing for it.
When you very occasionally do, what you get isnt nice.
I dont know who the fuck this is for. Really.
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I took one for the team and watched a bit of this Twitch stream. I don’t have time stamps. Just a few comments.

Near the end they watch various random videos - their commentary centers around whether the depicted women make Olly horny or not. One is a video of women like logsplitting. One of the panelists (not Olly) says, “that’s a BIG woman” when one of the women appear on screen. Coming on the heels of his last video I thought it ironic. But these stupid streams have a very junior high male locker room vibe to them. Someone else (I think Devon, the FTM) says “look at the fucking arms!” about one of the logsplitters with fairly muscular arms. It came across to me in a “ew gross” way. Which again, like any of these degenerates should judge people’s appearances.

Someone says something about Abi taking estrogen and Olly says “that’s never been publicly confirmed” or something like that. So he’s still leaving it ambiguous.

At one point they find a video where Olly really finds the woman hot, loves the American accent, and goes on about it. It’s gross. It reminded me of one of those Tube POWAH cartoons. Olly jokes that he needs to turn his camera off for a bit (so he can jack to her.). It’s at about 1:45:00. They are watching a spoken word performance by a brunette young lady with glasses. The other panelists constantly make fun of her voice which is incredible to me. Her voice is just standard uptalk, nothing special. But it’s pretty rich to mock someone for their speaking voice when you have “Abigail Thorn” on your panel. Fucking assholes. The woman says something about being paid to have sex in a parallel universe and the other panelists are like “uhhhh what universe would that be? No you wouldn’t.” As in she’s too unattractive. They also mock her clothes. I would recommend watching this part. I guess I’m naive but I was surprised to see what assholes they all were acting like in spite of their alleged leftism/feminism and how openly hostile they were to some random woman in a video.

They are making fun of the actor Chris Evans and Olly pipes up and makes a joke about the opinions are each their own and he’d love to work for Disney or Marvel. Cause I’m sure casting agents are watching.

At another point they are joking about possible 9/11 causes and the other panelists explain to Olly that most of the hijackers were from Saudi Arabia. I don’t know whether he was playing the bimbo or if he really didn’t know but I thought that was embarassing. I guess he was young during 9/11.

Olly says a Django actor asked him if transitioning changed his voice and Olly said he went “NOPE” in his full male baritone and the guy was impressed. [\spoiler]


The girl doing stand up ironically looks like a female version of Mia Mulder. I couldn't even focus on what she was saying as they just talked over her/interrupted each other with probably equally unfunny takes. I do not understand how people are watching this for entertainment - the production alone is terrible.

My origin story:

I had already peaked by the time I found PT but they managed to super peak me. When I watched their stuff all I saw was a pompous man. I've never seen a pompous woman - the cognitive dissonance was insane. I keep on expecting them to throw off the woman face and break the troon wall and declare that what they were doing all along was "ACTING, DARLING - GENDER IS JUST A PERFORMANCE AFTER ALL" but it hasn't happened yet.
 
It could. When in hyperfocus. However, being actually sperging (something that is both useful but also quite rare in regards of AD(H)D), about someone as Olly is just quite sad.
Yeah I was going to mention that whoever is behind these accounts should just delete them and get screened for adhd (getting a sleep study done too wouldn't hurt, there's an insanely high comorbidity rate between sleep disorders and adhd). To my knowledge, for some adhd is mostly just having a racing mind- making it hard to start certain tasks or commit to tasks that aren't immediately gratifying. If someone with adhd takes stims their mind calms down, making it easier for them to focus on tasks that aren't stimulating to them and actually start tasks. Internet fights are stimulating, especially for someone locked up during quarantine with nothing to do, and they don't really require any effort so they're easy to engage in. Some of my friends with adhd would joke about how when they ran out of their meds they would start getting into stupid arguments online for hours every day. I could see how someone with untreated adhd and an obsession with Olly (or an obsession with himself) could go off the rails and get addicted to internet fights and sperging about Olly in the comments section of his videos. I have no clue if that's actually the case here though, and it's still strange how they seem to check the comments section of Olly's videos daily. If snl825/Stephanie (or anyone) has any questions or wants to talk about adhd/getting screened/etc. my dms are open and I can keep things strictly confidential. I'm critical of psychiatry/therapy but adhd meds can greatly improve someone's quality of life.

There was actually an interesting moment in one of Olly's recent livestreams (the 1 million sub celebration one I think) where he said he very much does not have ADHD. I'm struggling to find it but he went on a little tangent about how he doesn't have any issue concentrating and how that has never been an issue for him.
 
I guess I watched it for the same reason you apparently did. And I skipped around a lot and fast forwarded when I watched. I probably watched about 30 to 40 mins of it. I joined kiwi specifically to gawk and make fun of Olly, because I couldn’t believe he actually did this insane thing. Still can’t. So I’m motivated lol. But yeah those streams are tough going.
 
I guess I watched it for the same reason you apparently did. And I skipped around a lot and fast forwarded when I watched. I probably watched about 30 to 40 mins of it. I joined kiwi specifically to gawk and make fun of Olly, because I couldn’t believe he actually did this insane thing. Still can’t. So I’m motivated lol. But yeah those streams are tough going.
I'm just a dumbass, but before he grew his hair out, I never would have seen this coming. He seemed actually a pretty nice guy. Guess that's how they reel you in.
 
I'm just a dumbass, but before he grew his hair out, I never would have seen this coming. He seemed actually a pretty nice guy. Guess that's how they reel you in.
Yes, same.

My “story” as such is that back in the day I would watch Nyktyne or whatever it was. I would watch Prof Corey Anton, Thunderfoot, that guy who was an anti-natalist (Immhendam or something like that).

I remember Contra would occasionally dress up in like 17th century wigs and makeup but I assumed he was a drunk, effete college student. I didn’t connect it to gender issues, not at all.

Then I heard he had a “breakdown” or something. Then I learned he was back and was presenting as queer or whatever. I was surprised but I did remember how he would dress up like I said. So in retrospect it sort of fit.

But then out of nowhere I heard that “Philosophy Tube” (who I vaguely had seen) was ALSO trans and coming out. Seemed like a normal enough dude, so I was shocked and wondering how the hell these leftie dudes were trooning out. Then I saw his Identity video, remembered that Contra talked about “kiwi farms” (which I had never heard of) and how it would shit talk him, so sought it out figuring people would be dunking on Philosophy Tube.

And the rest is history, here I am shit talking Olly and Contra (but especially Olly) with the rest of you fine people lol.
 
My “story” as such is that back in the day I would watch Nyktyne or whatever it was. I would watch Prof Corey Anton, Thunderfoot, that guy who was an anti-natalist (Immhendam or something like that).

I remember Contra would occasionally dress up in like 17th century wigs and makeup but I assumed he was a drunk, effete college student. I didn’t connect it to gender issues, not at all.

Then I heard he had a “breakdown” or something. Then I learned he was back and was presenting as queer or whatever. I was surprised but I did remember how he would dress up like I said. So in retrospect it sort of fit.

But then out of nowhere I heard that “Philosophy Tube” (who I vaguely had seen) was ALSO trans and coming out. Seemed like a normal enough dude, so I was shocked and wondering how the hell these leftie dudes were trooning out. Then I saw his Identity video, remembered that Contra talked about “kiwi farms” (which I had never heard of) and how it would shit talk him, so sought it out figuring people would be dunking on Philosophy Tube.

And the rest is history, here I am shit talking Olly and Contra (but especially Olly) with the rest of you fine people lol.

Pretty much the reason I'm here lol. I liked Contra back in the day inc. his cross-dressing weirdness. It was refreshing to see a man dressing up without linking it to his lady brain. Next thing you know, he's fallen for the trans 'wrong brain' shit hook, line and sinker and started transitioning into whatever the hell he is now.

Ollie's videos were also kind of good at the beginning but a bit dry and not really in-depth or critical in any real way. Then he started copying every part of Contra's shtick like a bad rip off, so it didn't surprise me hugely when he came out as trans. The whole thing's just been so performative: unveiling his coming out video, media interviews timed to release on practically the same day etc.

Obviously being trans makes him the most oppressed person on the planet, esp. as he lives in the evil terfy UK and not somewhere more progressive like Russia or North Korea. Ignore the fact that his acting career has since taken off, he has tons of new followers, a shit load of press since 'coming out' etc. So presumably becoming trans has been big bank for him too.

And yet, not one person in the mainstream has even suggested that this was perhaps a little bit calculated or manipulative, you know.

So yeah, finding that Kiwi Farms is the only place you can say this kind of stuff. Eugh.
 
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Wait, so he didn't actually win anything and he's issuing this pseudo-press release just in case? Sounds extremely egotistical to turn up your nose at an award you haven't even won yet (regardless of ideological disagreement— can't fault him for having those). Wouldn't the not egomaniacal normal thing be just turning the award down if/when you won it, instead of this weird preemptive thing? (It also just smells like cope, like he knew that he wasn't going to win and didn't want to be embarrassed so he puts out some dumb statement saying that he doesn't even want the award anyway.) Posh narcissist through and through.

Also, I don't know if anyone has been keeping tabs on the @snl825 account, but it hasn't tweeted anything since July 28 (around the time someone posted about the account on here).

Hi, long time-first time poster here. I haven't yet finished the thread but this press release about quitting the LGBT awards things due to disliking a sponsor *before he's even won a thing* is just so.....I mean, I shouldn't be surprised at the depths of dude's pathological narcissim but somehow I am.

Also noted how he was hyping up the "Food, Beauty, Whatever" video with multiple "best thing I've ever done"...."best character I ever wrote!"...."best thumbnail I've ever made!" tweets and I'm just wondering how THE HELL has his fanbase not turned on him yet? This is almost like Twilight Zone.

Also, the reason I even popped up was to post about some recent remarkably unsubtle snl825 sperges. I'm behind on the thread but hopefully someone will have mentioned it by the time I catch up.

Hmmm perhaps his mood will darken if the possible anticipated reunion with Contra has been cancelled…

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And also Philosophy Tube is unlike anything else. And using his million subscribers milestone to wheedle out a few more Patreon bucks. Correct me if I’m wrong but even Contra wasn’t so obnoxious with the constant talk of subscriber counts and the success of the channel:

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I do agree that Philosophy Tube is weird though….

Where else can you see weird shit like that? Well, on Contrapoints, Olly. Only weirder and better and more original.
 
Stephanie L made some odd comments under a Vaush video about Olly being cancelled for his "transphobic" joke about Trump being trans or whatever. Stephanie says that they think Olly is going to troon out soon (citing that Olly has been dropping hints on his livestreams). I know someone a while back (@Tombigbee I think?) made a post about how Olly was dropping major hints on livestreams way back in May 2020, but it's still odd to defend someone by basically going "well they can make a trans joke because I think they're going to troon out". Stephanie literally says that people should revisit in a few months because they think Olly will have come out as a trans by then.
Here's part of one of these comments that really sticks out: "(Aaalso re "when trans people make the joke it's different" : without going TOO deep down the speculation rabbit hole, I'm increasingly not so sure Olly still identifies as cis ... all I'm sayin' is Philosophy Tube Season 3 is apparently coming Jan 2021, so maybe we revisit this whole thing after that and see if it lands differently? :) )"
HUGE claim to make when you're uncertain, and Stephanie was dead on too.
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Screenshots below are more of Stephanie defending Olly, other things that point to it being Olly is how certain Stephanie is that the backlash Olly faced for his trans joke was actually much less severe than the backlash he faced for being friends with Contrapoints (when Contra was being "cancelled"). Stephanie also mentions how people tried to figure out what triggered Olly (by going through his more personal videos) and then used that against him (he might have mentioned this on a livestream but still... very odd). Stephanie also says "big mad" a few times and Olly said that just a few days ago. Lastly Stephanie also defends his eyebrows.
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There was actually an interesting moment in one of Olly's recent livestreams (the 1 million sub celebration one I think) where he said he very much does not have ADHD.
I was wrong, it was actually from the Social Constructs livestream (July 18th, 2021.). Here's his strange rant about how he doesn't have ADHD:
Comment he's responding to is: "'Yeah I just do things'- there's someone who doesn't have adhd."
"Yeah I think I definitely do not have that um I find it quite hard to relate when people talk about adhd because i'm just like- (*spaces out*) and I used to be when I was like a teenager quite sort of not very compassionate when people said that they couldn't pay attention. I was like what do you mean you just you just pay just do it just pay attention, and now I recognize that actually that's uh not everyone can do that and that actually I am perhaps even have a slightly enhanced capacity to do that and I'm also not invulnerable um so yeah."
 
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