General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

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Let's take a brake from the numbertalk and see a duck.
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Omg. What a greedy cash grabbing behavior that prey upon weak and vulnerable lonely beta men! (/sneed because some people really can't read sarcasm)
 
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u/Reality_False

7 minutes ago


See ya later​



Misc.
I'm just going to explain why I started watching Vtubers and Why I stopped watching it.
Actually I started watching Vtubers because of Houshou Marine I guess I was really attracted to her voice but believe it or not I have never lasted more than 15 minutes of her streams because of language barrier and I really don't wanna waste some time trying to learn Japanese for that sole reason (I actually aspired on learning it but chose not to as it will not benefit me much in the future). So I switched to Hololive EN but the main reason of me giving up on Vtubers starts here, I still feel lonely every time I watch their streams and for some reason I can't bring myself to simp on them like I just really just can't seem to do it. So I tried to find other English speaking Vtubers and saw one Vtuber group by the grace of YouTube algorithm and I was grateful on one of those Vtubers because they helped me push the continue button in the game of "Living a Miserable Life" if it weren't for them I won't have any clear vision on my future and I may more likely have committed suicide due to the lack motivation in life and regrets in existing, that may lead me to the path of depression. They were the last Vtuber that I watched with commitment but I guess I totally quit due to me finally stopping on acting like I'm in some kind of illusion I always understood that ultimately, they are still a business and a broke kid like me has no chance on getting even at least a little bit close to that Vtuber so I just let my interest die by slowly moving on to other things like watching old classic anime, playing VNs and of course some NSFW stuff.
The only problem I have in vtubing is the same with my problem in irl streaming talking to alot of people doesn't make me feel special and the delivery of good content takes more time than watching a good old YouTube video.
This is why I don't watch Penguinz0 on twitch but I watch his YT videos everyday. Even though it's a premade content but the content creator gives you that facade that they are only looking at you or they are only talking to you but it's fine as long as they have a genuine and honest but also add the comedic character, then I can go with that.
With regards to the community idk you're all fine I guess
but I guess it's a bye for now and Idk when I'll come back since I already tried appreciating them thrice I might probably come back when I want to feel the bliss of impossibilities and I have enough cash on bank iykwim.
TL:biggrin:R quitting on watching vtubers because I still feel lonely and I can never be able to be invested on them due to slow delivery of quality content
bye bye
This is a prime example of the phrase "touch grass"
 
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u/Reality_False

7 minutes ago


See ya later​



Misc.
I'm just going to explain why I started watching Vtubers and Why I stopped watching it.
Actually I started watching Vtubers because of Houshou Marine I guess I was really attracted to her voice but believe it or not I have never lasted more than 15 minutes of her streams because of language barrier and I really don't wanna waste some time trying to learn Japanese for that sole reason (I actually aspired on learning it but chose not to as it will not benefit me much in the future). So I switched to Hololive EN but the main reason of me giving up on Vtubers starts here, I still feel lonely every time I watch their streams and for some reason I can't bring myself to simp on them like I just really just can't seem to do it. So I tried to find other English speaking Vtubers and saw one Vtuber group by the grace of YouTube algorithm and I was grateful on one of those Vtubers because they helped me push the continue button in the game of "Living a Miserable Life" if it weren't for them I won't have any clear vision on my future and I may more likely have committed suicide due to the lack motivation in life and regrets in existing, that may lead me to the path of depression. They were the last Vtuber that I watched with commitment but I guess I totally quit due to me finally stopping on acting like I'm in some kind of illusion I always understood that ultimately, they are still a business and a broke kid like me has no chance on getting even at least a little bit close to that Vtuber so I just let my interest die by slowly moving on to other things like watching old classic anime, playing VNs and of course some NSFW stuff.
The only problem I have in vtubing is the same with my problem in irl streaming talking to alot of people doesn't make me feel special and the delivery of good content takes more time than watching a good old YouTube video.
This is why I don't watch Penguinz0 on twitch but I watch his YT videos everyday. Even though it's a premade content but the content creator gives you that facade that they are only looking at you or they are only talking to you but it's fine as long as they have a genuine and honest but also add the comedic character, then I can go with that.
With regards to the community idk you're all fine I guess
but I guess it's a bye for now and Idk when I'll come back since I already tried appreciating them thrice I might probably come back when I want to feel the bliss of impossibilities and I have enough cash on bank iykwim.
TL:biggrin:R quitting on watching vtubers because I still feel lonely and I can never be able to be invested on them due to slow delivery of quality content
bye bye
MAKE ME FEEL SPECIAL!!!
The post history is all r/hentai or r/hentaisource. Makes sense.
 
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Posted by
u/Reality_False

7 minutes ago


See ya later​



Misc.
I'm just going to explain why I started watching Vtubers and Why I stopped watching it.
Actually I started watching Vtubers because of Houshou Marine I guess I was really attracted to her voice but believe it or not I have never lasted more than 15 minutes of her streams because of language barrier and I really don't wanna waste some time trying to learn Japanese for that sole reason (I actually aspired on learning it but chose not to as it will not benefit me much in the future). So I switched to Hololive EN but the main reason of me giving up on Vtubers starts here, I still feel lonely every time I watch their streams and for some reason I can't bring myself to simp on them like I just really just can't seem to do it. So I tried to find other English speaking Vtubers and saw one Vtuber group by the grace of YouTube algorithm and I was grateful on one of those Vtubers because they helped me push the continue button in the game of "Living a Miserable Life" if it weren't for them I won't have any clear vision on my future and I may more likely have committed suicide due to the lack motivation in life and regrets in existing, that may lead me to the path of depression. They were the last Vtuber that I watched with commitment but I guess I totally quit due to me finally stopping on acting like I'm in some kind of illusion I always understood that ultimately, they are still a business and a broke kid like me has no chance on getting even at least a little bit close to that Vtuber so I just let my interest die by slowly moving on to other things like watching old classic anime, playing VNs and of course some NSFW stuff.
The only problem I have in vtubing is the same with my problem in irl streaming talking to alot of people doesn't make me feel special and the delivery of good content takes more time than watching a good old YouTube video.
This is why I don't watch Penguinz0 on twitch but I watch his YT videos everyday. Even though it's a premade content but the content creator gives you that facade that they are only looking at you or they are only talking to you but it's fine as long as they have a genuine and honest but also add the comedic character, then I can go with that.
With regards to the community idk you're all fine I guess
but I guess it's a bye for now and Idk when I'll come back since I already tried appreciating them thrice I might probably come back when I want to feel the bliss of impossibilities and I have enough cash on bank iykwim.
TL:biggrin:R quitting on watching vtubers because I still feel lonely and I can never be able to be invested on them due to slow delivery of quality content
bye bye
What a freak. And Penguinz0? Good lord, not even once.
 
This is a prime example of the phrase "touch grass"
hate to admit it cause that's an over used phrase, but i mean yea.

Poor homie fell hard for the para-social thirst trap.
1st rule about Vtubers, they're entertainers not friends.
They have sex and likely a healthy relationship,
you re-post hentai and don't go outside.

to the homie who hit him with the ByeRys, Legend.
 
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Posted by
u/Reality_False

7 minutes ago


See ya later​



Misc.
I'm just going to explain why I started watching Vtubers and Why I stopped watching it.
Actually I started watching Vtubers because of Houshou Marine I guess I was really attracted to her voice but believe it or not I have never lasted more than 15 minutes of her streams because of language barrier and I really don't wanna waste some time trying to learn Japanese for that sole reason (I actually aspired on learning it but chose not to as it will not benefit me much in the future). So I switched to Hololive EN but the main reason of me giving up on Vtubers starts here, I still feel lonely every time I watch their streams and for some reason I can't bring myself to simp on them like I just really just can't seem to do it. So I tried to find other English speaking Vtubers and saw one Vtuber group by the grace of YouTube algorithm and I was grateful on one of those Vtubers because they helped me push the continue button in the game of "Living a Miserable Life" if it weren't for them I won't have any clear vision on my future and I may more likely have committed suicide due to the lack motivation in life and regrets in existing, that may lead me to the path of depression. They were the last Vtuber that I watched with commitment but I guess I totally quit due to me finally stopping on acting like I'm in some kind of illusion I always understood that ultimately, they are still a business and a broke kid like me has no chance on getting even at least a little bit close to that Vtuber so I just let my interest die by slowly moving on to other things like watching old classic anime, playing VNs and of course some NSFW stuff.
The only problem I have in vtubing is the same with my problem in irl streaming talking to alot of people doesn't make me feel special and the delivery of good content takes more time than watching a good old YouTube video.
This is why I don't watch Penguinz0 on twitch but I watch his YT videos everyday. Even though it's a premade content but the content creator gives you that facade that they are only looking at you or they are only talking to you but it's fine as long as they have a genuine and honest but also add the comedic character, then I can go with that.
With regards to the community idk you're all fine I guess
but I guess it's a bye for now and Idk when I'll come back since I already tried appreciating them thrice I might probably come back when I want to feel the bliss of impossibilities and I have enough cash on bank iykwim.
TL:biggrin:R quitting on watching vtubers because I still feel lonely and I can never be able to be invested on them due to slow delivery of quality content
bye bye
The real Redditors are starting to comment.
oh god.GIF
 
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I feel like the difference between Myth and Council can be attributed to a few things. One is 'sequelitis'. How often does the second iteration of a movie/video game/etc. outperform the original? In general, not too often. Too much to live up to, expecting lightning to strike twice...let's not forget that HololiveEN's smash hit success was an outlier, well outside the norm of expectations.

Another is that fucking LORE, which I think came about due to JP management seeing all the tremendous amount of lorebuilding that the members and fans both did for HoloMyth and saying 'Gee, we better create lots of prepackaged story for this batch of girls, so they can have something in comparison to the current ones!" Management, of course, not realizing that sort of thing has to come about naturally, not force-fed in huge, obnoxiously over-crafted chunks. You can tell the 'lore' was generated by committee with lots of managerial 'input', it has that overwrought gimmicky stink to it that only serves to bring them down in the end. Management really felt the pressure to live up to the first gen, so they wanted this one to be 'extra special', which meant lots of extra meddling in their case. Hololive JP managers' density is in direct proportion to their level of common sense.

I want HoloEN v2.0 to succeed. It's just that they have to rely on company management's way of doing things, which is unfortunate given Hololive's track record. I think Hololive succeeds in spite of their management, not because of them.

Just let Nene shoot them, and we'll all be better off.

nene with a gun.jpg
 
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u/Reality_False

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See ya later​



Misc.
I'm just going to explain why I started watching Vtubers and Why I stopped watching it.
Actually I started watching Vtubers because of Houshou Marine I guess I was really attracted to her voice but believe it or not I have never lasted more than 15 minutes of her streams because of language barrier and I really don't wanna waste some time trying to learn Japanese for that sole reason (I actually aspired on learning it but chose not to as it will not benefit me much in the future). So I switched to Hololive EN but the main reason of me giving up on Vtubers starts here, I still feel lonely every time I watch their streams and for some reason I can't bring myself to simp on them like I just really just can't seem to do it. So I tried to find other English speaking Vtubers and saw one Vtuber group by the grace of YouTube algorithm and I was grateful on one of those Vtubers because they helped me push the continue button in the game of "Living a Miserable Life" if it weren't for them I won't have any clear vision on my future and I may more likely have committed suicide due to the lack motivation in life and regrets in existing, that may lead me to the path of depression. They were the last Vtuber that I watched with commitment but I guess I totally quit due to me finally stopping on acting like I'm in some kind of illusion I always understood that ultimately, they are still a business and a broke kid like me has no chance on getting even at least a little bit close to that Vtuber so I just let my interest die by slowly moving on to other things like watching old classic anime, playing VNs and of course some NSFW stuff.
The only problem I have in vtubing is the same with my problem in irl streaming talking to alot of people doesn't make me feel special and the delivery of good content takes more time than watching a good old YouTube video.
This is why I don't watch Penguinz0 on twitch but I watch his YT videos everyday. Even though it's a premade content but the content creator gives you that facade that they are only looking at you or they are only talking to you but it's fine as long as they have a genuine and honest but also add the comedic character, then I can go with that.
With regards to the community idk you're all fine I guess
but I guess it's a bye for now and Idk when I'll come back since I already tried appreciating them thrice I might probably come back when I want to feel the bliss of impossibilities and I have enough cash on bank iykwim.
TL:biggrin:R quitting on watching vtubers because I still feel lonely and I can never be able to be invested on them due to slow delivery of quality content
bye bye
>watching Charlie
I only tolerate this from Mori because she is my oshi and even then i cannot understand what she sees in his current content.
 
Onion got spooked af :story:

I mean, who wouldn't be spooked by Haachama.

You know what, I like this Calli

Wow, Kanata's English has improved so much. Almost reaching ESL tier instead barely literate.

Polka still watching EN clips

Chicken still hasn't re-collabed with her since the EN curse.

Duck wants some normie gaming friends. Should just talk to Fauna to play Pokemon Unite together and slap some brats.
 
I never hold anything too hard against Hololive or Cover. Need to remember that they were basically a back alley corp. That went globally viral and managed to KEEP that audience. I wouldn't be surprised if no one at the company has the experience to handle such explosive growth, and there's a good chance Yagoo is the glue holding everything together while they're still trying to get things worked out.
 
Subscriber numbers mean literally nothing. Along with likes, Susan arbitrarily changes them all the time. Plenty of older channels have millions of subscribers and get piss poor views.

Watch time and cash money are the only important numbers. If you're going to analyze EN2, use those metrics.

\/\/ Hey chief, that's what I just said.
 
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I was kind of surprised that Hololive went for EN gen 2 so soon after Irys' debut - on the JP side they've lost two talents over the past year, Haachama will probably slow her activities down at the end of the month, plus you have a constant flux of members taking breaks for various different reasons. I guess they could still be waiting for the perfect group of girls - especially since they changed their audition process after gen 5, so that you can apply at any time.

Another is that fucking LORE, which I think came about due to JP management seeing all the tremendous amount of lorebuilding that the members and fans both did for HoloMyth and saying 'Gee, we better create lots of prepackaged story for this batch of girls, so they can have something in comparison to the current ones!" Management, of course, not realizing that sort of thing has to come about naturally, not force-fed in huge, obnoxiously over-crafted chunks. You can tell the 'lore' was generated by committee with lots of managerial 'input', it has that overwrought gimmicky stink to it that only serves to bring them down in the end. Management really felt the pressure to live up to the first gen, so they wanted this one to be 'extra special', which meant lots of extra meddling in their case. Hololive JP managers' density is in direct proportion to their level of common sense.
It's way too cringey for me, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of casual fans were turned off by that alone. Fortunately the girls themselves don't play into it too heavily. Similarly, I think having the EN equivalent of A-chan would've been a nice addition (talking about "Omegaα", whose name I copy and pasted because I don't fucking know how to type it) but they had to go and turn it into more chuuni lore. I can't even say it's good that the management is trying out new stuff - they should leave that to the talents (eg. HoloMyth 3D stream was an amazing success, thanks to Ame's genius content brain)
 
Can somebody link me to some notably good solo streams from HoloMYTH because I've been reading the past few pages and don't really understand where you're coming from with all the superlatives. I think they're all good at specific types of content (Gura with karaoke, Kiara with Holotalk, Calli with chatting) but not this huge irreplicable miracle for streaming or something that Gen2 has no way of measuring up to. From what I've watched of them, when it comes down to just watching an English streamer play a game, 9 times out of 10 I would choose to watch Baelz, IRyS, Reine, Iofi or the twitch streamers I've watched for years over them.

(I haven't watched that much admittedly and do think they're good as a group. I genuinely do want some recommendations to see what I'm missing)
 
Reading everyone's views and opinions on the whole EN subs and all that fuckery has reaffirmed what I been thinking as of late to myself. EN1 was the perfect storm at the right time and all that, they came in when there really was bugger all ENvtubers now and a year later of everyone seeing their success, there are MANY more now. EN2 have had more of a interesting start off with susan being the useless ass she is and id also say maybe the lore thing as well.

I will always cherish EN1 Gang the most myself personally but that probably because I've been watching them at the best and worst all this year. I really want EN2 to find their groove and sail away, I think give it a couple of months and they will really start to shine. I aim to try and watch more of EN2 but it just finding the time to do so. Ill stop here and wont add much more to the topic as all the biggest points have been made already.

Also shamefully taken from Reddit but this is a really cool art piece. Slowly going around zoomed in working out who each duck is rather cool. There is even a few Easter eggs. (Going to shrink it a fair bit, so click on it to see it fully)
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