Furry Fandom and Drama General

[Count groudon]

I'm actually surprised you guys just glanced over the things that happened this Weekend at RainFur..

I don't have any actual tweets or posts about it, but from my source(s) apparently there were a few series of events that led to the hot tub shitting incident.

Spoiler: Citations Needed

Someone had a bad "Moons over my Hammy" at Deny's.
This led said Deny's to be shut down.
Upset fur raged at Deny's closure, shits in hot tub, apparently with a diaper on.
Furs dub this "#Diapergate"
Another Fur upset at this, proceeds to masturbate in pool.
A different Fur found this hot, masturbates furiously while high on poppers and cocaine, nearly overdoes.
The Ambulances is called, furries panic.

Why do furry conventions even allow them in the pool area anymore? It seems like everytime they go there someone either ends up shitting in them or spanking it furiously or something.

 

[Enclave Supremacy]

Why do furry conventions even allow them in the pool area anymore? It seems like everytime they go there someone either ends up shitting in them or spanking it furiously or something.

By that logic they wouldn't let them hold a con; something nasty always happens when you get a few hundred deviant autists in for a fetish meeting.

 

[Jozef]

The diaper thing is disgusting. Leaving them around the hotel, and then shitting and masturbating in a hot tub? And to top it all off, being disgusted by this is "KINK-SHAMING?!" How many hotels refuse to host furry conventions? (then when they have to put up with shitty diapers and general nastiness, they're accused of "fursecution" for not wanting to deal with the disgusting hassle any more)

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Why do furry conventions even allow them in the pool area anymore? It seems like everytime they go there someone either ends up shitting in them or spanking it furiously or something.

Because hotels/convention centers apparently don't do their research before agreeing to host these things.

That or they don't expect men in diapers taking a shit in their hot tub.

 

[AnOminous]

The diaper thing is disgusting. Leaving them around the hotel, and then shitting and masturbating in a hot tub? And to top it all off, being disgusted by this is "KINK-SHAMING?!"

The fact they don't stop this means they approve of it.

The perps should be "kink-shamed" by the fucking cops, then they should be billed for the hazmat team needed to clean up the biohazardous crime scene and prosecuted for any criminal violations of the law.

 

[Night Terror]

The diaper thing is disgusting. Leaving them around the hotel, and then shitting and masturbating in a hot tub? And to top it all off, being disgusted by this is "KINK-SHAMING?!" How many hotels refuse to host furry conventions? (then when they have to put up with shitty diapers and general nastiness, they're accused of "fursecution" for not wanting to deal with the disgusting hassle any more)

Furry conventions bring in loads of money for a hotel because furries can drain a hotel's supply of booze extremely quickly. Not only that, but furries are generally regarded as being some of the BEST convention guests to have, because they're completely non-aggressive. Businessmen, sports fans, and other people tend to get very loud and often very angry when they're drunk, and might go on a jovial rampage through the hotel - furries just hug each other a lot. Incidents like hot tub shitting are very rare - hell, this is the first on record.
Most furry cons blatantly ban fetish gear, bad touches, and douchebaggery, and I think the community as a whole has had enough of fucking babyfurs. Most conventions are starting to outright ban them. No diapers, no baby toys, no babyfur badges, no weird fucking babyfur actions in public. We can only hope this continues.

 

[Watcher]

Yeah I can imagine Hotels would love a furry convention.

For one Furry conventions tend to prebook all of the rooms in a hotel for about a week and sometimes after. And they tend to spend a great deal of money on booze and book rooms like ballrooms and other areas. It feeds a lot of money into the hotel that makes something like cleaning a jacuzzi seem trivial in comparison.

 

[Reddit Avenger]

Nothing makes me take what you're saying seriously quite like proclaiming yourself as a "sparkledog" and using the phrase "tighten your diaper".

 

[Gensdupays]

There used to be people who would call and earn hotels about furry conventions so they knew what people would really be up to. Unfortunately I think furries got people with manipulative PR skills to convince them not to believe it so that the people who go to them can shit all over their room's bathroom and carry dildoes around in front of children all they want.

 

[Super Collie]

Incidents like hot tub shitting are very rare - hell, this is the first on record.

I hate to break this to you, but no it's not. Earlier this year (or maybe toward the end of last year) there was a pool area closed at a convention because someone straight up dropped a deuce in it. There was also "The Chlorine Incident" that led to the entire hotel being evacuated due to someone willingly breaking open a canister of chlorine gas. Furries may not be rowdy in the way of a Packers fan or anything, but they far exceed what's socially unacceptable in other horrifying ways.

When I was younger, the worst thing to happen at a furry convention was having to wait an hour to get an autograph from a comic book artist.

 

[Gensdupays]

What comic book artist with I assume a real career would go to a niche con like that?

 

[Super Collie]

What comic book artist with I assume a real career would go to a niche con like that?

Back in the 1990's there were publishers like Antarctic Press and Fantagraphic Books who made their living serving specifically the furry fandom (or "anthros" as it was called professionally back then). I'm a but fuzzy on everyone these days, since most have gone on to bigger and better things, but I don't know if furry comics ever specifically paid someone's bills; they would be contributors to multiple publishers and get paid a little bit by all of them.

edit: Also, the fandom wasn't seen as gross as it largely is today. There were still a few isolated cases of crazy back then (Foxwolfie Galen and Dennis Falk) but by and large furry cons were just viewed as Trekkie or sci-fi cons for a different kind of nerd.

 

[Trilby]

Back in the 1990's there were publishers like Antarctic Press and Fantagraphic Books who made their living serving specifically the furry fandom (or "anthros" as it was called professionally back then). I'm a but fuzzy on everyone these days, since most have gone on to bigger and better things, but I don't know if furry comics ever specifically paid someone's bills; they would be contributors to multiple publishers and get paid a little bit by all of them.

edit: Also, the fandom wasn't seen as gross as it largely is today. There were still a few isolated cases of crazy back then (Foxwolfie Galen and Dennis Falk) but by and large furry cons were just viewed as Trekkie or sci-fi cons for a different kind of nerd.

It use to be different.

Reminded of Mike Kalazeh publishing his Captain Jack comics through Fantagraphics in the late 80's. He's still at it. Just yesterday he shared a pic on his FA page of two of his Captain Jack characters having an erotic good time together.

 

[AnOminous]

For one Furry conventions tend to prebook all of the rooms in a hotel for about a week and sometimes after. And they tend to spend a great deal of money on booze and book rooms like ballrooms and other areas. It feeds a lot of money into the hotel that makes something like cleaning a jacuzzi seem trivial in comparison.

That tends to buy a lot of tolerance. One thing furries are good at is not getting thrown out of places despite being weird and creepy as fuck.

When you hear about things like Dashcon failing utterly, it's because of things like reserving giant blocks of rooms and then, when the day of the con comes, not coming through with the guests to fill them. That is the kind of thing that causes the hotel to accelerate the payment due and demand it all at once or throw the con out.

This is something that generally does not happen with furry cons. They do, in fact, fill the rooms.

Which is why they get away with literal shit like this, although this is seriously pushing what even a well compensated hotel puts up with.

 

[Gensdupays]

That tends to buy a lot of tolerance. One thing furries are good at is not getting thrown out of places despite being weird and creepy as fuck.

When you hear about things like Dashcon failing utterly, it's because of things like reserving giant blocks of rooms and then, when the day of the con comes, not coming through with the guests to fill them. That is the kind of thing that causes the hotel to accelerate the payment due and demand it all at once or throw the con out.

This is something that generally does not happen with furry cons. They do, in fact, fill the rooms.

Which is why they get away with literal shit like this, although this is seriously pushing what even a well compensated hotel puts up with.

It's both filling rooms as well as being seasoned damage control experts. Seriously, I bet the people behind the hot tub shitting con will somehow convince the hotel to let them back next year. It's bizarre.

 

[Enclave Supremacy]

It's both filling rooms as well as being seasoned damage control experts. Seriously, I bet the people behind the hot tub shitting con will somehow convince the hotel to let them back next year. It's bizarre.

There's nothing bizarre about a ton of money being paid up-front. I'm sure management doesn't care if some minimum wage drone as to clean out the hot-tub.

As long as other guests weren't disturbed then they won't care too much.

 

[Gensdupays]

There's nothing bizarre about a ton of money being paid up-front. I'm sure management doesn't care if some minimum wage drone as to clean out the hot-tub.

As long as other guests weren't disturbed then they won't care too much.

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure most of the ween-level attempts to get furries kicked out of hotels don't work. Money talks.

 

[Enclave Supremacy]

Come to think of it, I'm pretty sure most of the ween-level attempts to get furries kicked out of hotels don't work. Money talks.

According to the Rainfur website it's the 5th year they've frequented the hotel. So yeah, I'd say that the Hilton is happier with the money.

 

[AnOminous]

Back in the 1990's there were publishers like Antarctic Press and Fantagraphic Books who made their living serving specifically the furry fandom (or "anthros" as it was called professionally back then).

Fantagraphics did, and still does, a lot of other stuff like republishing classic works and non-furry stuff like Jim Woodring. I used to read a fair amount of Fantagraphics stuff like Critters, where Captain Jack and Usagi Yojimbo showed up first, as well as Steve Gallacci, who did Albedo. Also stuff like Gnuff by Freddy Milton, who was more well known for work on Disney comics and was more Carl Barks-influenced. Never got into the fandom as such, though. Dodged a bullet there, really.

At the time, most of that stuff was fairly mainstream and hadn't completely degenerated into pure fetish material.

 

[Gensdupays]

I think we got into furry history stuff before, wasn't it really that whole Burned Furs thing being viciously anti-homosexual in addition to its anti-public freakiness that really caused people to explode with not powerleveling in public because any attempts to do so was seen as homophobic or something? I'm confused by this all, I just recall hearing that Burned Furs was really anti-gay and associated the increasing sexual nature of the fandom with gay people.