Dumb Shit on Wikipedia

  • 🐕 I am attempting to get the site runnning as fast as possible. If you are experiencing slow page load times, please report it.
A few posts in this thread have criticized wikipedia for having "useless articles" (usually just recent social/political phenomenon), but I think that those useless articles fit wikipedia's intended purpose. Those articles are real things that happened and people have talked about, and I think it's important we preserve that for future generations. Wikipedia is meant to be one huuuuge encyclopedia that has, on a surface level, entries on everything we humans have made, done, or discovered. That's fucking badass.
I agree 100% the wikipedia project on a whole does more good for humanity than bad, and 99% of my criticism is because it could be so good and useful, if the idea was a garbage heap I really wouldnt care.
 
I agree 100% the wikipedia project on a whole does more good for humanity than bad, and 99% of my criticism is because it could be so good and useful, if the idea was a garbage heap I really wouldnt care.
I would have agreed about 10 years ago, but currently, I view Wikipedia as an absolute cancer that literally harms humanity just by existing.
 
I would have agreed about 10 years ago, but currently, I view Wikipedia as an absolute cancer that literally harms humanity just by existing.
This may sound hyperbolic for some people, but I cannot see this as a baseless claim. From my position I see the current Wikipedia encyclopedical culture too much toxic for its sphere of influence. Wanna see a politics article to simply get informed, well according to the alignment of the editors you'll read an article biased by their points of view. Wanna see a history article, boom revisionism. Wanna see a technology, weaponry, cultural or philosophical article that the developing party has or had ideologies that collide with the ones from the editors, oh ho ho ho, you are not even free from this.
 
There are users who "specializes" in uploading ethnic diaspora maps on Wikipedia pages for these ethnic groups. I think a lot of their information is just copy and wasted from the estimates provided in Wikipedia pages. While certain information seems accurate or close to it, a lot of results seem dubious or unsourced.

Out of curiosity, I've looked at some of the sources and numbers provided on Wikipedia pages and other sources to gauge population estimates, as this is where they seem to get information. While I found some information to be relatively accurate, there are many countries highlighted on these maps where no reliable information was known or provided. Or the maps overestimated the diaspora in that country. Furthermore, some of the diaspora estimates provided either come from unsourced information that some editor decided to put on a Wiki page or may be the map makers own personal estimate/opinion.

Quite frankly, uploading these maps on Wikipedia seem useless given how much data is unavailable and may be unreliable or not counting everybody. But I guess I shouldn't be expecting qualify information from Wiki users...

Here's one of the users who does the map population estimates.
A few maps highlight provided by this user have alleged diasporas of some nationalities/ethnicities in the West African county of Mali, but I've seen no reliable sources about these estimates. From what I can tell, immigration to the country there seems to largely be from other African countries. As a well as the French. With the latter making sense given how they were part of the French Empire.
 
Last edited:

sources and numbers provided on Wikipedia pages to gauge population estimates
This has been an issue since before Wikipedia with political activists grossly over estimating deaths in Africa caused by "colonization". I wouldn't be surprised if the book about Leopould II killing africans written by the cofounder of Mother Jones is referenced on Wikipeda for its population estimates.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
This has been an issue since before Wikipedia with political activists grossly over estimating deaths in Africa caused by "colonization". I wouldn't be surprised if the book about Leopould II killing africans written by the cofounder of Mother Jones is referenced on Wikipeda for its population estimates.
Yeah, Some of the diaspora/diaspora sources I saw cited did not look reliable/usable. And quite a few figures looked like numbers pulled out of some users ass because nothing provided indicated said number. But I guess if Wiki users find it acceptable lol.

Anyways, I found this "lovely" talk page conversation in the "Transgender people in sports" page. Its the same old debate over the advantages troon women have in sports.
talk page.PNG
 
He’s a notable content creator with an extensive list of things he’s done??
I'd agree with you but then people like Chris O'Neil, Eddsworld, Arin Hanson, Zach Hadel, and on and on all have their own Wiki pages. There's something really bizarre about removing David Firth of all people from Wikipedia. His content is pretty influential and well-known, especially in comparison to those I just listed.

Eta: I've been a David Firth Enjoyer for a long time. He has collaborated several times, mostly for music, and almost none of his content is partisan. His most well known interview is from UNILAD and he's remarked that he hated doing it. Notably, a Google search reveals that he's done several more interviews with small-time publishers since the UNILAD interview in 2018. While David has never come out and defined his artwork for viewers, the most commonly accepted takeaway is that his works are mostly allegories for mental health. Of course, some touch on politics, and some content is designed to just not make sense. I really can't figure out why he'd get scrubbed other than hardline Leftists finding his content too distasteful, or some moron getting mad and deleting it.

IMHO David has been a sellout for a while. He constantly implies that he hates the establishment while doing nothing of value and providing no new content of substance. Salad Fingers is his most popular content and he's using it to remain relevant. I can't fault him for that necessarily, he needs to make a living, but whenever he does speak he acts like he's been some counter-culture icon for his entire career despite following the same stepping stones as his peers in his day. He's never been outside of the corporate world, I don't know where that comes from. Your money comes from YouTube and royalties from companies you've done voice, animation, and music work for. How is that not corporate? Because you don't work in an office building making inbetweens you're not corporate?
 
Last edited:
I feel like this might be coincidental, but a Youtuber named Wendigoon published a video on Salad Fingers less then a day ago, and suddenly his wiki page is deleted.

I know Wendigoon previously said some anti trans shit about Chris-Chan so I wouldn't be shocked if some Wikigoon said ey now we have a reason to yeet this shit, cause he's affiliated with some Transphobe.
 
In that case I whole heartedly agree with Osmosis Jones' opinion: he's actually not that relevant. His animated series, while well known, isn't iconic enough beyond an occasional reminder that it exists when he posts a new episode. Yes, he's had voice acting gigs, but that was for a video game over ten years ago. You can't really compare him to someone like Arin Hanson cause he puts out content daily and tours around, while Firth takes years to do another episode. Hell, I didn't even know his name until today.
 
Salad Fingers is his most popular content and he's using it to remain relevant. I can't fault him for that necessarily, he needs to make a living, but whenever he does speak he acts like he's been some counter-culture icon for his entire career despite following the same stepping stones as his peers in his day.
I don't think I've even seen him actually interviewed, I've just liked a lot of what he's made, even more recent stuff like Cream showed a lot of development in his skill set. I think his post-super-edgelord phase is actually better although he's much less prolific. Cyriak Harris is another of that general oddball cartoonist/animator generation, and despite having fairly disturbing and confusing content, he's managed to turn it into a fair amount of corporate money too (which I see nothing wrong with personally).

At some point you gotta make money man, and it's just a matter of what bits of your soul you have to sell off to keep the vessel for the rest of it intact.
In that case I whole heartedly agree with Osmosis Jones' opinion: he's actually not that relevant. His animated series, while well known, isn't iconic enough beyond an occasional reminder that it exists when he posts a new episode. Yes, he's had voice acting gigs, but that was for a video game over ten years ago. You can't really compare him to someone like Arin Hanson cause he puts out content daily and tours around, while Firth takes years to do another episode. Hell, I didn't even know his name until today.
It seems somewhat of an eccentric choice that the cartoon is considered encyclopedic while the article on the dude himself isn't, but the edits GW was making seemed to be eliminating superfluous crap being added in a haphazard way. I can't really say she's wrong just because she's just a bitch in general.
 
It’s the digital ministry of truth

Most likely someone in the thread decided to change it. Judging by their edit history, they're a mecha anime and 40k nerd, so almost certainly someone who posts here.

Bad move, whoever did this, because Molly White now has your IP address and she knows you're a KFer. You are nothing to her but just another far-right troll. So you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid.
 
Most likely someone in the thread decided to change it. Judging by their edit history, they're a mecha anime and 40k nerd, so almost certainly someone who posts here.

Bad move, whoever did this, because Molly White now has your IP address and she knows you're a KFer. You are nothing to her but just another far-right troll. So you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You're fucking dead, kid.
They are so fucked
i also found this article
 
Back