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BrunoMattei said:
Can't guarantee when but I'll work on it. I don't want to come off as the ultimate edge lord gatekeeping faggot of subversive/weird/disturbing/surreal literature.
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I think one can easily enjoy weird fucked up transgressive literature without being seen as an edgelord by having a defined understanding of what draws one towards the subject and strong sense of morality. For myself, I'm drawn to these books mostly because of their fictional nature. True crime produces a deep sadness in me since I can often only think about the victims as if they were someone I knew. I get lost in what their favorite things were, the little innocent idiosyncratic habits they held that made them smile each day, the little joys I've shared with them across time and space, ordinary items they keep around because of the happy memories they invoke along with far more intensely human experiences I can't remember here. Too a point where I find nothing but total disgust and disregard for the killers story that I simply can not follow it. However, I still seem endlessly fascinated by death and destruction and these books offer a better outlet since the victims did not truly suffer and the killers did not really kill, therefore the darkness of humanity can be explored in a manner I feel more comfortable in. I also view the reading of these books in the same vain as those who study rot and decomposition. Many of these books seek to break down and reform the barriers of humanity through words alone and the terror and shock they produce from general audience fascinates me in what feels like the same way a biologist watches the maggots and fungi writhe on decaying flesh. To me, being an edgelord is to focus on offloading ones juvenile grievances by attempting to be callous about tragedy.


Your posts have always struck me as someone who appreciates the horror art form in its entirety rather than anything close to being an edgelord. Plus, you seem far more well versed in this world of strange writing and bizarre movies than I am so I surely am curious the kind of lists of media you could compile, regardless of their themes.
 
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BrunoMattei said:
Just wanted to update this thread because a friend of mine sent me a PDF of the original publication of Soft Machine that's worth at least a grand now. I liked it. Kind of Naked Lunch-lite but that's fine. Enjoy. @AnOminous @trailcamwhore
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Too bad Maurice Girodias, who ran Olympia, was an absolute piece of shit who ripped off basically anyone who ever dealt with him, because it published some truly gnarly stuff.

The only more crooked book publisher I can think of offhand is Martin Greenberg of Gnome Press, who ripped off a huge number of SF authors (and was NOT Martin H. Greenberg the prolific SF writer).

Also I like Naked Lunch plenty, but it was sort of Burroughs's ultimate dive into pure edgelordery. I think he was better when he was at least slightly closer to conventional prose and topics. His first two straight novels (no I don't mean straight in that way), Queer and Junky, were among his best. I'm using the "y" spelling because Burroughs did in subsequent editions.
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If you had this in mint condition it would probably be worth about as much. Maybe more, since bibliophiles would probably be more likely to preserve an Olympia Press publication, while these Ace Doubles were basically trash.
 
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AnOminous said:
Too bad Maurice Girodias, who ran Olympia, was an absolute piece of shit who ripped off basically anyone who ever dealt with him, because it published some truly gnarly stuff.

The only more crooked book publisher I can think of offhand is Martin Greenberg of Gnome Press, who ripped off a huge number of SF authors (and was NOT Martin H. Greenberg the prolific SF writer).
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History repeats itself. Just like with Creation Books. They had an awesome catalogue and it sucked finding out the owner ripped off pretty much everyone and was a massive faggot.
 
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I don't know if it's been mentioned, but Jim Thompson's The Killer Inside Me is pretty fucked up, even though it is more noir than edgelord stuff. It's about a cop on the level of Harvey Keitel in The Bad Lieutenant, itself an incredibly fucked up movie (which does dive into edgelordery as do most Abel Ferrara films).

Yep, back in 2019:
 
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J'irai cracher sur vos tombes, by Boris Vian. It's definitely translated into English, I spit on your graves would be the title, but it lacks the verb tense distinction which implies whoever named it will be spitting on ''their'' tombs, in the future tense. I can't speak for the translation, but we were assigned it in college, and I wanted to throw up, not on graves but nonetheless. Initially hated being assigned it a lot because it goes against a lot of my beliefs and the content is not to my taste and it made me feel ill, but I found it masterfully written. You would probably too, if the translation is good, even if you don't share my beliefs. The author was also successfully sued for the book due to some retard being inspired by it in the context of a crime, Vian wrote it under a pseudonym and kept his anonymity until an amnesty law was passed concerning the content of the book, but he had translated his book in English to parry a lawsuit and that translation was used to vanquish him in the eye of the Court. He died during the showing of a play based off this book, which he had opposed the adaptation and content of after watching the pre-premiere, and requested his name be removed from the credits. Very sex-heavy because ofc, it's a French writer, and it's based on niggo-whitey relationships in the South.
 
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BrunoMattei said:
I'd also recommend Panzram: a Journal of Murder that I finished a month or so ago.
https://www.amazon.com/Panzram-Jour...8&qid=1547505933&sr=8-1&keywords=carl+panzram

It's the diary of serial killer Carl Panzram interspersed with an editorial clarifying the history of the U.S. and the prison system at the time. The authors of the editorial make the point that it was really the prison system that was at fault that created Panzram.
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Update: I just wanted to include a PDF I found of this off Libgen in case anyone here is interested but doesn't want to pay $30+ for the book.

It's an older edition with notations but you can't beat free, right? From what I've read of it, it's basically the same as the updated version I linked on Amazon.

But speaking of serial killer diaries... I just remembered this title I own and it's one of the last Creation Books titles I still own.

Gunfighter: the Autobiography of John Wesley Hardin. It's an old west diary from a Billy the Kid in training kind of guy. Fascinating shit and obviously recommended if you're into the old west. There's been republications of it that shouldn't be too difficult to find.

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Edit: for some reason I can't attach a 32mb PDF file, so fuck it. Here's the Libgen link for the Panzram diary:

 
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“In my lifetime I have murdered 21 human beings. I have committed thousands of burglaries, robberies Larcenys, arsons and last but not least I have committed sodomy on more than 1,000 male human beings. for all of these things I am not the least bit sorry. I have no conscience so that does not worry me. I don’t believe in Man, God nor devil. I hate the whole damed human race including myself.”
 
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Xarpho's Return said:
The IOC Manual of Sports Injuries: An Illustrated Guide to the Management of Injuries in Physical Activity.

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I was at a work seminar some years back, and the presenter decided to show a picture of some poor new eunuch's horrendously burned scrotum. Some warning would have been nice.
 
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OSHA manuals are insane.
Literally 3/4 of the 'manuals' are related to legal code references, fine schedules, jurisdiction, and required paperwork.

Nothing is about keeping workers safe. It's about keeping lawyers and government desk jockeys employed.
 
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glass_houses said:
I was at a work seminar some years back, and the presenter decided to show a picture of some poor new eunuch's horrendously burned scrotum. Some warning would have been nice.
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Yeah, the funny thing was I trying to look for a book that I remember some weird girl from high school (in theater, of course) looking at that had graphic pictures of injuries, like someone's wrist with all the skin gone and looking partially disconnected from the arm itself. As a teenager who wants to be edgy you want in on some of that, then you find out as an adult some questions you really don't want answers to.

Some of the stuff is legitimately horrifying, just scrolling through in the first chapter, I saw mangled faces and in one case, a cyclist that somehow got their glasses embedded in their lips. Unless you want to be a paramedic and resign yourself to the fact that you'll see all that plus some (and then deal with the psychological trauma yourself) there is absolutely no good reason to expose yourself to that.
 
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Xarpho's Return said:
Yeah, the funny thing was I trying to look for a book that I remember some weird girl from high school (in theater, of course) looking at that had graphic pictures of injuries, like someone's wrist with all the skin gone and looking partially disconnected from the arm itself. As a teenager who wants to be edgy you want in on some of that, then you find out as an adult some questions you really don't want answers to.

Some of the stuff is legitimately horrifying, just scrolling through in the first chapter, I saw mangled faces and in one case, a cyclist that somehow got their glasses embedded in their lips. Unless you want to be a paramedic and resign yourself to the fact that you'll see all that plus some (and then deal with the psychological trauma yourself) there is absolutely no good reason to expose yourself to that.
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My dad did emergency services throughout my teens. I was watching tellie one evening and he walked in with that thousand yard stare, sat down and looked at me. Then he said, "I pulled a kid's head out of a car radiator today. He was on his push bike and got hit by the car."

I asked my father if the boy was going to be okay, and he said, "Of course not, he's dead. His head was pulverised. I had to scrape his brains off of the bumper bar."

I stopped asking questions at that point.
 
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Reading through this thread reminded me of a book a teacher read to my class in grade school, The Puppy Sister, a story of a puppy turning into a human. It weirded me out as a kid and it's only weirder looking back.
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I've seen plenty of rekt both IRL and online and it never phased me, but for some reason sports and fitness injuries really get under my skin.
 
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Hello everyone, I decided to read through this entire thread and make lists of mostly everything recommended and mentioned here. These are more of a slightly curated set of lists for me but if users feels there are omissions or mistakes let me know and I'll edit the post. There is little distinction for genre and content, but in theory everything listed here leaves some dark aspect or bruised impression upon the readers mind. All the lists are alphabetized by author's last name and I am spoilering them so as not to condemn people to scroll a thousand years.

This is a list of notable authors who's body of work seem to embody dark strangeness quite often. Most here are fiction authors but there are a few nonfiction writers in here as well.
Svetlana Alexijevich
Isabel Allende
Antonin Artaud
Barbey d'Aurevilly
Clive Barker
George Bataille
Baudelaire
Aaron Beauregard
Gottfried Benn
Poppy Z. Brite
Lord Horror (David Britton)
William S. Burroughs
Angela Carter
Denis Cooper
Nick Cutter
Samual R. Delany
Bret Easton Ellis
Harlan Ellison
Wade H. Garrett
Jean Genet
David Grossman
Pierre Guyotat
Sven Hassel
Rayn Havok
John Hawkes
Mo Hayder
Michel Houellebecq
Aldous Huxley
Elfriede Jelinek
Ernst Junger
Sarah Kane
Jack Ketchum
Jerzy Kosinski
Edward Lee
Thomas Ligotti
Bentley Little
Cormac McCarthy
Rex Miller
Henry Miller
Chandler Morrison
Ryu Murkami
Joyce Carol Oates
Chuck Palahniuk
Jodi Piccoult
Cameron Pierce
Arthur Rimbaud
Marquis De Sade
Harold Schechter
Hurbert Selby Jr.
Matt Shaw
Michael Slade
Peter Sotos
Mathew Stokoe
Supervert
Kristopher Triana
Paul Verlaine
Brendon Vidito
Francois Villon
D.J. Volpe
Irvine Welsh
Wrath James White
Elias Witherow

This is the list of mostly standalone novels or series that made particualr disturbing impacts on various Kiwi's over the coruse of the thread. This is the bulk of what I pulled from the thread. There are a few authors who have two books listed but if they have other notable works they may be fine to move to the author list.
The 11,000 Rods by Guillaume Apollinaire's
Blood and Guts in Highschool by Kathy Acker
The Eye’s by Jesus Ignacio Aldapuerta
BabyFucker by Urs Allemann
Bastard out of Carolina by Dorothy Allison
The Red Laugh by Leonid Andreyev
Diary of an Oxygen Thief by Anonymous
Chameleon in a Candy Store by Anonymous
House of Holes by Nicholson Baker
Crash by J.G Ballard
The Wasp Factory by Iain Banks
Cruddy by Lynda Barry
Mouchette by Georges Bernanos
The Other Side of the Mountain by Michel Bernanos
Sweating Blood by Léon Bloy
2666: A Novel by Roberto Bolaño
This Way too the Gas by Tadeusz Borowski
Enemies Foreign and Domestic by Matt Bracken
The Most Beautiful Woman in Town by Charles Bukowski
Tractatus Logico-Suicidalis: On Killing Oneself by Hermann Burger
A Clockwork Orange by Anthony Burgess
The Bloody Chamber by Angela Carter
The Ass Saw the Angel by Nick Cave
Journy to the End of the Night by Céline
Death on the Installment Plan by Céline
Spirits of Flux and Anchor by Jack L Chalker
Duet for the Devil by T. Winter-Damon and Randy Chandler
The Pit: A Group Encounter Defiled by Gene Church
The Diary of a Rapist by Evan S. Connell
Heart of Darkness by Joseph Conrad
Feast of Snakes by Harry Crewes
Left Hand by Paul Curran
Body Shocks by Ellen Datlow
Maladoror by Comte De Lautreamont
House of Dolls by Yehiel De-Nur
Daniella by Yehiel De-Nur
Elle by Phillipe Dijan
Room by Emma Donoghue
The Obscene Bird of Night by Jose Donoso
Bad Wisdom by Bill Drummond
Geek Love by Kathrin Dunn
I Have no Mouth, and I Must Scream by Harlan Ellison
Bear by Marian Engel
The Collector John Fowles
Tiger by Margaux Fragoso
The Tunnel by William H. Gass
The 25th Hour by Vhirgil Gheorghiu
The Consumer by Micheal Gira
The Seven Days of Peter Crumb by Jonny Glynn
Pornografia by Witold Gombrowicz
The Tin Drum by Günter Grass
The Sad Tale of the Brothers Grossbert
The Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins
Suicide Note by Mitchell Heisman
The Rats by James Herbert
The Fog by James Herbert
The Nazi and the Barber by Edgar Hilsenrath
The End of Alice by A.M Homes
Elementary Particles by Houellebecq
Slugs by Shaun Hutchinson
À Rebours (Against Nature) by Joris-Karl Huysmans
Là-bas by Joris-Karl Huysmans
The Melancholy of Anatomy by Shelley Jackson
Aztec by Gary Jennings
The Triflers by Mumkey Jones
The Vegetarian by Han Kang
All I Need is Love by Klaus Kinski
The Beginning Was The End, by Oscar Maerth Kiss
Out by Natsuo Kirino
Skin by Kathe Koja
All Tomorrows by C. M. Kosemen
The Notebook Trilogy by Agota Kristof
The Drive In by Joe R Lansdale.
Some Girls by Jillian Lauren
The Monk by Matthew Gregory Lewis
Let The Right One In by John Ajvide Lindqvist
Erskine's Box by Kin Lloyd
Find a Victim by Ross MacDonald
The Hill of Dreams by Arthur Machen
HMS Ulysses by Alistair Maclean
The Sound of Building Coffins by Louis Maistros
One Hundred Years of Solitude by Gabriel García Márquez
Gladiator by Korie Massey
Hell House by Richard Matheson
Jurisdiction Series by Susan R. Matthews
The Butcher Boy by Patrick McCabe
Zola by D E McCluskey
The Cement Garden by Ian McEwan
Teeth and Tongue Landscape by Carlton Mellick III
Torture Garden by Octave Mirbeau
The Bluest Eye by Toni Morrison
Kafka on the Shore by Haruki Murakami
Lolita by Vladimir Nabokov
Pin by Andrew Neiderman
Suicide Cassanova by Arthur Nersesian
Vurt by Jeff Noon.
Gor series by John Norman
Tampa by Alissa Nutting
Merlin by Robert Nye
Z for Zachariah by Robert C. O'Brien
TRANCEformation of America by Cathy O'Brien
Prayer for the Dying by Stewart O'Nan
Revenge by Yoko Ogawa
Hotel Iris by Yoko Ogawa
Petrolio by Pier Paolo Pasolini
The Gas by Charles Platt
The Story of O by Pauline Réage
Might is Right by Ragnar Redbeard
Husk: A Novel by Corey Redekop
Bleakwarrior by Alistair Rennie
The Dice Man by Luke Rhinehart
The Drift by John Ridley
A Sentimental Novel by Alain Robbe-Grillet
The Zombie Room by R. D. Ronald
The Breast by Philip Roth.
Pedro Páramo by Juan Rulfo
Sins of the Blood by Kristine Kathryn Rusch
Air by Geoff Ryman
The Fat Girl by Marilyn Sachs.
PUSH by Sapphire
Blindness by José Saramago
Killer Fiction by G. J. Schaefer
A Hangman's Diary by Franz Schmidt
Living Dead Girl by Elizabeth Scott
Cock & Bull by Will Self
Equus by Peter Shaffer
The Hollow man by Dan Simmons
The Terror by Dan Simmons
The Jungle by Upton Sinclair
Blood Electric by Kenji Siratori
Relations by Caroline Slaughter
House of Stairs by William Sleator
The Ruins by Scott Smith
Go Ask Alice by Beatrice Sparks
Fun With Pedophiles: The Best of Baiting by Doug Stanhope
Perfume by Patrick Suskind
The New Order of Barbarians: The New World System
Battle Royale by Koushun Takami
Welcome to the N.H.K (novel) by Tatsuhiko Takimoto.
Quicksand by Junichiro Tanizaki
Nothing by Jann Teller.
Assisted Living by Nikanor Teratologen
The Killer Inside Me by Jim Thompson
A Confederacy of Dunces by John Kennedy Toole
Paprika by Yasutaka Tsutsui.
The Maimed by Hermann Ungar
Legend of a Suicide by David Vann
J'irai cracher sur vos tombes, by Boris Vian
The Invisible Glass by Loren Wahl
A: a novel by Andy Warhol
Starfish by Peter Watts
Blindsight by Peter Watts
The Necrophiliac by Gabrielle Wittkop
Peace by Gene Wolfe
Dark Spring by Unica Zurn

There were some interesting mentions of comics and manga artists that would certainly leave the taste of bile in ones mouth, tighness of the chest and tears in the eyes so here is a small list of those works and artists.
DeadWorld (1993)
My Friend Dahmer by Derf Backderf
100 Bullets
Ben Is Dead
Faust
My Favorite Thing is Monsters by Emil Ferris.
Jun Hayami
ANSWER Me! All Four Issues
No Long Human by Osamu Dazai/Junji Ito
Fukitor by Jason Karns
Meathouse Man
Suehiro Marou
From Hell by Alan Moore
Vitiators by Elytron Frass & Charles N.
Red Room by Ed Piskor
“Did you Hear What Eddie Gein done?” by Harold Schecter and Eric Powell
Hiroaki Samura
Oka Sundome
Uzigawa Waita
Radical Eye by Miron Zownir.

Finally this is the woefully incomplete non-fiction list. I'm sure there are plenty of rightful entries that could be made on here that I havn't heard of and I didn't see mentioned in this thread. But for now these are the few real life horrors that I and others felt noteworthy.
Sniper on the Eastern Front: The Memoirs of Sepp Allerberger, Knight’s Cross
Love as always, XX Mum by Mae West
The Crime And The Silence by Anna Bikont
The Indifferent Stars Above By David James Brown
My war gone by, I miss it so’ by Anthony Lloyd
The Night Stalker by Philip Carlod
A Slow Death: 83 Days of Radiation Sickness by NHK TV Crew
Killing For Culture.
Blood on the Information Super Highway by Cliff Dearing
Final Truth by Pee Wee Gaskins
Midnight Furies by Nisid Hajari
Gunfighter: the Autobiography of John Wesley Hardin
French Children of the Holocaustby Serge Klarsfeld
The War of The End of The World by Mario Vargas Llosa
Panzram by Thomas E. Gaddis and James O. Long
Working Stiff by Judy Mellinek and T.J Mitchell
The Phantom Killer by James Presley
Cold Storage by Wendell Rawls Jr
Stiff: The Curious Lives of Human Cadavers by Mary Roach
Jack the Ripper by Donald Rumbelow
Kolyma stories by Varlam Shalamov
The Shoemaker by Flora Shreiber
With the Old Breed by Eugene Sledge
Brotherhood of Heroes by Bill Sloan
Gulag Archipelago by Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn
The Shoe Leather Treatment by S.L. Stebel
The Anatomy of Evil by Michael H. Stone
The New Evil by Michael H. Stone
Psychopathia Sexualis by Richard Von Kraft-ebing
Rose West: The Making of a Monster by Jane Carter Woodrow

Thank you everyone who contributed to the thread, I hope you all enjoy this partial reading list from Hell and it's outskrirts. Special thanks to @BrunoMattei for the thread itself, some of the most unqiue and informative posts contained within the thread, and his dedication to the horror genre in general.
 
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Currently reading Weaveworld by Clive Barker. I love it, but it is CRAZY! What I've read/experienced so far, without giving you guys too many spoilers:

* The sisters of Immacolata are like something out of Nightbreed or Hellraiser
* The Fuge itself and the unweaving
* Immacolata's sisters raping a guy in detail and the abomination looking like him.
* Descriptions of the Seerkind and their clothing and the raptures they possess.
* The death of Jerichau
* A scene in the police station where Hobart sees two of his men locked in a cell naked covered in their own shit and playing with it

Not done with it, but I'm more than halfway through. I'm not disappointed. Clive Barker serves up some legit dark fantasy. Thief of Always is my absolute favorite.

When I'm done with this, I might read Everville.
 
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