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Generative Artificial Intelligence (gAI, GenAI, AI Art, AI slop, etc.) is a relatively new technology that leverages advanced machine learning models to create original content, such as text, images, music, and code. Machine Learning and Artificial Intelligence research has been ongoing since the 1940s, with the first neural networks being developed in the 80s. In the 2010s, the first Generative AI models started coming out, with Generative Adversarial Networks (GANs) generating realistic images all the way back in 2014. In 2018, OpenAI released GPT-2, one of the first Language Models that wasn't completely retarded.

However, everything changed starting in 2020. Before then, gAI was mostly seen as a meme by the internet and the general public didn't know much about it. But when OpenAI released GPT-3 in 2020 it quickly became one of the biggest topics of discussion throughout the world. As the 2020's progressed and Image models were released, the most prominent being Stable Diffusion and MidJourney in 2022, people started realizing the power of gAI. Basically every tech company has been jumping on the AI hype train, and open source communities have been working day and night on their FOSS porn models.

That brings us to today, 2024 2025, where AI is becoming prevalent in almost every facet of our lives. As the decade progresses we will likely see more improvement and more things previously thought impossible, likely including man-made horrors beyond our comprehension. FOSS image models are better than they have ever been and with almost 3 years of people using them, some people are able to create images that are basically indistinguishable from human made art. That brings us to our first topic of discussion:


Artists, well known for often being one of the most insufferable communities on the internet, have in general not taken too kindly to generative AI. While there are some reasonable level headed artists, many feel like gAI is a soulless robotic threat to their livelihood. Most do not understand how gAI works, likening the training process to "theft". Of course, theft implies that the victim had something taken from them which isn't the case when an image is used in training, but I digress. Some examples of the misunderstanding/willful ignorance, also known as AI Derangement Syndrome (AIDS), of these artists:



These Anti-AI artists (often called "antis") are also known for being quite violent, talking about their utter hatred for and drawing pictures of violent acts being committed towards AI users. This violence and hatred towards AI users (who they lovingly call AI bros) is a common theme.
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And one of the most egregious examples of this violence is this post on X, where an artist posts an animation of them essentially torturing and murdering an AI user for the crime of using AI. The comments are very supportive too.

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Antis often spout hypocritical arguments, like being for copyright and intellectual property (and even wanting to copyright styles) while also creating fanart and saying that its A-OK to pirate Adobe software (it is okay to do so though). It's safe to say that any anti that uses copyright as an argument to be against AI while also creating fanart of copyrighted characters either has no idea what they are talking about or is arguing in bad faith. I think this (a) reddit post explains the hypocrisy well.

Multiple artists who have adopted AI as apart of their workflow (or even just have played with AI) have been attacked by rabid antis. A few examples are:

Shadiversity-
Shad is a bit of a lolcow himself. Regardless, he's a pretty smart dude and makes good videos about swords and other weapons and is a published author. On the side apparently he makes art, and with the advent of AI has started making AI art. He's made a few videos about it now, including this very good video about how AI works and how it in fact does NOT steal art.

While that video got some mild backlash, the next video he made about it got more. In his video titled "A love letter to Ai art - you don't need to be afraid", he talks about how he uses AI and why he likes it.
This was the response to the video:





and those are just a few comments i found by sorting by new. here's the recommended videos when watching that one, you can see that a significant amount of them are anti-AI and/or anti-shadiversity:

Needless to say, his video did not make people very happy.

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Ergojosh is apparently a respected artist YouTuber despite having fewer than a million subscribers. Most of his videos don't even reach 100k views, but people are absolutely melting down after he came out in favor of AI art. Unlike shad, he is clearly a very talented artist without AI, with the following picture being a sketch of his. Clearly a skilled man.

He uses AI throughout the drawing process and ends up with this final image:



I personally think it's a good picture. His community seemed to disagree though:




Here's the full video, archived in case he deletes it because of the backlash.


Adam Duff LUCIDPIXUL made a video defending him, then when everyone hated it, he took it down and put up a new video running damage control.
The original video doesn't seem to be archived anywhere, but here's a clip that was managed to be saved from reddit:
Below is a clip from reddit, but the whole video was found and uploaded here.



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Corridor Digital, a well known CG studio, released a short project that used AI. While it got alot of love, it also had plenty of backlash at the time and still gets negative comments constantly. The video looks pretty neat despite the errors, but as with ergojosh's cool picture, some people disagree:


The video in question






And those are just some of the major examples. You can find many more examples of smaller artists being attacked for their use of AI on X and Reddit.


Cara is an "AI-free" art sharing social network that launched in mid-2023 and blew up in popularity in mid-2024 after Meta's policy change announcement.

Notably the Cara Discord is one of the places that Moepi (who will be discussed later) has been banned from due to his antagonism toward other users, and the Glaze team in particular.

Before it blew up, Cara was known for providing a web-based Glaze interface ("CaraGlaze") that was popular among its userbase. Unfortunately, Glaze is an inefficient and expensive pile of crap, so they had to take it down when the site grew. Previously Cara also utilized the Hive image scanner to detect AI images (we all know how well those work); that also became too expensive to continue doing. As a result, people are uploading AI art to Cara just to troll at this point.


Due to poor efficiency and the massive influx of users, Cara wracked up over $90,000 in expenses.

Zhang is also involved in an ongoing lolsuit, which is discussed a little more later.

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Glaze and Nightshade are tools developed by a research team at the University of Chicago led by Professor Ben Y. Zhao. The purpose of the tools is to disrupt the training of AI models, either by making an image "invisible" to the AI during training (Glaze), or destroying the AI model entirely (Nightshade). Unfortunately, neither tool is particularly good at its job. They are not only bad at what they are supposed to do, but they also use gAI to apply the perturbations designed to attack the models, using existing variants of standard image models. Not only that, but they take as much energy/computational resources as image generation itself! So basically everything they accuse AI prompters of doing, they do themselves.

There's also the fact that most AI datasets are in the order of BILLIONS of images. Even if you got 10,000 artists to glaze 100 of their artworks each, that's only 1 million images or about 0.01% of the LAION-5B dataset. But good luck getting that many artists to use glaze, most can't even run it. Spy lab, a private security company that focuses on machine learning, posted a complete and brutal takedown of glaze software.

At its initial release, Glaze was criticized for violating the GPL, despite being billed as a tool to "protect" copyright.

In return for its abysmal level of "protection", Glaze is notorious for introducing horrible artifacts to images. Some paranoid artists have taken to using Glaze on the final version of works they send to clients.





This went about as well as you'd expect.



I, for one, would be glad to pay $500 for denatured artwork. What about you?

Despite being the Director of Graduate Studies at his university, Ben Zhao is notorious for his unprofessional behavior and hostile attitude toward "AI bros" and other researchers. Perhaps the best example of this behavior was his constant shitting on Nicholas Carlini:


He also claims "AI bros" are using Glaze (where?):




In the fall of 2023, Ben Zhao announced Nightshade, a tool to produce poisoned images which would destroy an entire model if trained on.


Is this actually legal? Ben Zhao sure thinks it is!



Unfortunately neither Ben Zhao nor his orbiters live in reality, since a company he shilled Nightshade to apparently decided against using it (screenshot from Spring 2024).



It's important to remember that anti-AI artists have an absolutely unshakable faith in Glaze and whatever other garbage the Glaze team pumps out:



In fact, I wonder who's in the banner of r/artisthate:



Whatever new information or research comes out only makes Glaze stronger. All criticism is merely a test of their faith in Glaze.


Also worth mentioning is Nullbuldge, a gay furry hacking group that compromised a popular AI image generation tool. In the end it was mostly a nothingburger, but I encourage you to check out the linked post that exposes them.

While the antis are surely the most vocal and retarded community to come from all of this, on the other side of the spectrum there's a community of people known as "Effective Accelerationists", or "e/acc" for short. e/acc is a techno-optimist movement who's goal as stated by one of the movement's founders is to "climb the Kardashev gradient", referencing the pop-sci concept known as the Kardashev scale. Basically they want to accelerate technology to the point where we are all space robots who use up all the resources in the universe. Wikipedia puts it this way: "The founders of the movement see it as rooted in Jeremy England's (a literal jewish rabbi) theory on the origin of life, which is focused on entropy and thermodynamics. According to them, the universe aims to increase entropy, and life is a way of increasing it. By spreading life throughout the universe and making life use up ever increasing amounts of energy, the universe's purpose would thus be fulfilled."

The start of the movement is credited to a newsletter published by four X users, @BasedBeffJezos, @bayeslord, @zestular and @creatine_cycle.

While these people aren't entirely wrong about everything, they are basically Elon Musk dickriding LARPers. I'll post some of the more egregiously retarded tweets they've made, you can also read their substack for more information on their theories.


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mathematicians need to drop everything and work on the next AI chatbot!

These people aren't exactly funny most of the time, so I don't want to fill the thread up with their delusions. I implore everyone to skim their profiles at least though.

There's another website known as LessWrong, ran by Eliezer Schlomo Yudkowsky, that is a hive of this e/acc technocultist "philosophy." They are accredited with creating the 'rokos basilisk' thought experiment, which basically theorizes that when AI becomes an all powerful god it will eternally torture people who didn't actively help in it's creation. So to avoid technoHELL these people donate their money to AI research orgs (that already have billions of dollars.)
I recommend checking out the linked thread on Eliezer and LessWrong, lots of lols to be had.

Another AI Derangement phenomenon that has been noted recently are cases of retards and schizophrenics using language models such as ChatGPT to continuously feed into their delusions. These cases usually have similar themes of the user believing that their AI is sentient, or that it is providing them with some hidden knowledge. The subreddits r/ChatGPT and r/ArtificialSentience are both great places to visit to see example of such specimen.

A few months ago, this (A) post went viral, wherein a Reddit poster talks about how their partner has 'ChatGPT induced psychosis' from talking to ChatGPT.


Scary stuff!

You can find a lot of good stuff by searching specific keywords on these subreddits, like "resonance", "spiral", "recursion", and other terms. The AI really seems to like to use these terms when gaslighting schizophrenics, so it's a common theme. A few examples:




These people genuinely need help tbh. Many of them genuinely believe that their AI assistant is sentient.

There have also been articles written about this phenomenon:

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Very fascinating stuff overall, and one of my personal favorite forms of AI Derangement out there. It's only a matter of time before people are killing themselves or others because their ChatGPT told them that doing so will break them out of the Alpha Resonance Spiral and let them into the real world or something.

4chan's /g/ board is the place to go on the website for anything AI that isn't pornographic. However, because the AI discussion on there is usually delegated to general threads they have devolved into schizophrenic namefag hugboxes. For now I would like to focus on /aicg/- AI Chatbot General. It calls itself "A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots", however it is mostly retards addicted to jerking off to their AI waifus that they can't run on their own PCs so they have to use Proxies, other anons who provide the stolen keys to use corporate models.

Thankfully, /aicg/ has a dedicated lore/history page. It showcases everything important that has happened on the general. Below is a snippet of march of this year.

There are seemingly THOUSANDS of entries in the lore page. There is alot of retarded drama around specific proxy owners, such as "the Jew", "pepsi", "drago", and many others.
/aicg/, /sdg/, /ldg/, and /lmg/ are probably full of untapped entertaining drama. I've spent some time personally on /sdg/, and there are common name/avatarfags who everyone either hates or loves. Sadly, with the new Flux model coming out that's generally better than stable diffusion, /sdg/ seems to have been dying down in terms of juicy drama.
This is something that will take longer to research and report on, but I haven't seen these generals talked about much at all on the farms. Hopefully there's some kiwis who have paid more attention to the generals and can provide more insight.
There are three subreddits who exist in a trifecta of sorts, r/DefendingAiArt (DAA)- a Pro-AI subreddit, r/ArtistHate (AH)- a Pro-Artist Anti-AI subreddit , and r/AiWars (AIW)- the place where users of both subreddits fight in the battlefield of intellectual debate retarded flamewars.

It all started on December 18 2022 when DAA and AIW were created, the former being a self-described echochamber/safespace for pro-AI art redditors to commune, and the latter being a subreddit for debate regarding AI art. Both are moderated by the same people, but they take a very laissez-faire approach to moderating AIW. Four days later, AH was created. AH describes itself as "a pro-artist subreddit made to showcase, prove and expose increasing hate against artist and art hobbyists all over the internet and the world for reasons beyond us, and also show our opposition against it by sharing news, opinions and sources with each other."

These subreddits have been at war for almost two years at this point, and the concentrated autism has spawned a few notable individuals. However, the research into these communities is still very much a work in progress. There is more to learn. The following is what information we currently have on a few notable retards:

Much of this info is from this post by @Runch. Big thanks to him. Anything I directly steal from that post will be in a quote box. Please check out his posts for more in depth information.

Moepi (itzmoepi/Tenpi/imtenpi/P14y3r) is a 22-year-old male from New York who makes chiptune music, is a prolific web developer, dabbling artist, and really really REALLY hates AI. Spends all day every day sperging out on Reddit and Twitter about how harmful it is. Has performed extremely autistic long-form studies of ways artists can add noise to their images to make them un-scrapable for AI art...methods that no artist would ever use because of how destructive it is to the entire point of making art in the first place.

He is also obsessed with Genshin Impact and the lolicon character Klee, his most common avatar online. I defer to Null's judgement on wielding the p-word carelessly, so I'll just describe it as it is: on art sites he has favorited drawings of naked anime children.

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Moepi is/was a moderator of AH. Before he went full DFE and tried to stop being a sperg on reddit, he would spend HOURS arguing on both AIW and AH, and would create many reddit polls to try to gauge opinions on AI. Of course, the polls are meaningless and Moepi himself would even actively change the results because he didn't like the outcomes. Sadly most of these are lost and likely not archived. Below is one of the only examples we currently have.

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Moepi is, perhaps unsurprisingly, a lolicon. His pixiv bookmark list had drawings of naked children. Below is him comforting another user who is worried that liking drawings of little girls makes him a creep.
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Moepi has created page after page of infographics about methods to defeat AI art, representing hours of work and study which is of absolutely no use to anyone at all. Seriously, if you go to his site https://rgbwatermark.net/ and click on the question mark, you can scroll for 10 minutes as he examines various ways to corrupt pictures of lolicons so that AI might not be able to scrape them properly. Some examples:​

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Here is all the information gathered by @Runch.

In more recent news, Moepi claims to be retiring for good. But that's not all, user @MagneticTowels has done research into Moepi's identity and presents this alleged photo of him:

WonderfulWanderer777 is a mod of AH who's unhinged behavior has caught many peoples attention. He usually makes dozens of posts/comments a day, all about how AI bros are evil or stupid or whatever. There's a discord but I refuse to download and use that satanic platform so some other brave kiwi will have to do the digging.

DissuadedPrompter may be somehow even more unhinged than Moepi. AIW has some of the most lax moderation on reddit, and he somehow got himself banned from it. However his alt, DissuadedBin is still up and trolling. He's made some very suspicious comments about porn/CSAM and while I don't want to make any baseless accusations, from my time observing him on AIW I'd wager that he's probably got some skeletons in his closet.
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As with any good internet community, there have been a few lolsuits filed. The most important now would be Getty Images v. Stability AI and Zhang v. Google LLC, with the former having Getty Images accusing Stability AI of using 12 million of its images without consent and the latter having Jingna Zhang and Sarah Andersen accusing google of using their copyrighted works to train its image generator. I'm not too well versed in law stuff, so hopefully a kiwi lawyer can give their two cents on the suits.

AI technology advances quickly. This OP may not be entirely up to date at all times.

Huge thanks to @Runch and @The Thinking Abacus for helping immensely with writing and proofreading this OP! Please check out Abacus's AI art seething general thread and Runch's posts about Moepi!