Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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Y'all thinking miners wouldn't pay for sex gotta wake up. It's the oldest profession for a reason and they're all unionized, probably making a minimum of $75k/year. Obviously Greer's business is never going to be more than a twinkle in his eye but the idea of selling sex to workers isn't exactly far-fetched.
 
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The Stranger said:
Y'all thinking miners wouldn't pay for sex gotta wake up. It's the oldest profession for a reason and they're all unionized, probably making a minimum of $75k/year. Obviously Greer's business is never going to be more than a twinkle in his eye but the idea of selling sex to workers isn't exactly far-fetched.
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Not far-fetched, but investors would need far more than just Russ assuming that they will.

Doesn't matter anyway because Russ will never open a brothel.
 
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Useful_Mistake said:
Tip for anyone trying to remember when this all started - This lawsuit has survived Trump's First Presidency (and the literal riots and seccessions therein), Biden's Presidency, and is currently living in Trump's Second Presidency. Also to note is that Russell literally campaigned for Trump (unsanctioned, of course) on Reddit trying to convince die-hard liberals to vote for Trump. He was one of the only people to do so on Reddit.

So, not only has this lawsuit survived two presidencies, it has also survived efforts by Russell Greer to establish the Trump regime.

So, if you ever want to know how long ago this case started, just remember that it's seeing the third presidency so far, and only now with any sort of end in sight.
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Adding to this comment. Here's what I noted just before the last election. So long has passed since that comment, and yet so little.
Useful_Mistake said:
What is funny to me (and sad at the same time), is that this case might yet witness three different presidents (three presidencies certainly). This started during Trump's term, went through entirety of Biden's term, and it will either continue through another Trump term (making only two different presidents), or go through Harris term (thereby looking over three different presidents)
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break these cuffs said:
I do not respect the judicial process. This case exemplifies why I don't.
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If you think this case does, don't even think of looking at the Karen Read trial. That is a shitshow.
reptile baht spaniard rid said:
Greer has only responded quickly to .... I think maybe 2? 3? motions out of the 290+ entries on the docket. You have to wait until near or after the deadline (I am honestly surprised he filed his bullshit about trying to get the records this early, tbh - I almost suspect he threw it out because he saw the other shot into the docket).
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He's too busy making Powerpoint presentations to reply to motions apparently.
 
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FamicomGorby said:
From what I've read briefly about Nevada prostitution laws, being a registered prostitute puts a lot of power in the hands of the brothel owner. Like in some counties a registered prostitute can't even own a car which is obviously an issue when these brothels are usually out in the middle of nowhere. So I'd imagine it's harder for them to move from brothel to brothel.

Regardless, Gilman actually doesn't have any brothels in Winnemucca because there are no brothels in Winnemucca. The last one shut down years ago, which Greer touches on in his presentation, Gilman just owns all the land where prostitution is legal in the city. So in Greer's mind, if Gilman isn't gonna bring the whores to the city then the city should take the land via eminent domain to give to Greer. Winnemucca though is actually a fairly nice town from what I can tell, it's at least not the stereotypical small Nevada town in the desert that consists of bar and a couple of trailers, and Greer just cannot understand why they don't want a brothel in the middle of town.

Nearest brothel is in Battle Mountain about an hour away, which has a cat on their logo and is therefore excellent.

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It's got a cat in it because it's a cathouse, a slang term for a brothel. It's kind of olde time-y, but still modern enough. Another old time term for brothels is a bawdy house or bawd crib. That's more of an Old West term for it.

Wahgonga said:
Exactly.

He has a stereotypical concept of what a miner is, and he's probably never even met one.

And there are so many other things he's completely clueless about. I was a business owner, and even though I had a fair grasp of what's involved, I still had little idea of what was really required. I thought that getting investors, a lawyer, and an accountant were the big hurdles. LOL. Those were just the first 3 steps out of hundreds before you even open the doors for the first day of business.

But the one fatal flaw with Russ above all others is his complete lack of interpersonal skills. Maintaining a professional demeanor at all times is a must, and a degree of personal charm and diplomacy certainly helps as well.

Russ is just such a caustic, hateful, vindictive person, that there's no way he'll ever succeed as a business owner. He'd best make his peace with a broom he pushes, or with his delivery vehicle, because he's burned all of his other employment bridges.
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I think an even bigger fatal flaw with Russhole is his complete lack of theory of mind. It has plagued him with every scheme he's ever tried. Russ thinks everyone thinks the same way he does and wants the same things he does. Shit-Lips likes whores and wants more brothels, that means everyone else likes whores and wants more brothels. He is completely incapable of understanding that MANY, if not MOST, people do not see these things as positive or desirable. Having brothels in Winnemucca could bring enough prosperity to the town for every single resident to easily be able to afford their dream car regardless of how expensive it is, and they would still reject allowing them in their community. It just wouldn't be worth it to them.

There are miners who would never even consider for a moment going to a brothel or hiring a hooker. And most people aren't going to travel out into the middle of the Nevada wastes to visit brothels to the point of turning the town into a "tourist hotspot". If that were true then towns like Ely and Pahrump (might be Tonopah) would be more than just fly specks on a map.

But Russhole doesn't understand any of this. It has never once occurred to him because he is so disconnected from normal, regular people, so entirely fixated on himself and his own desires, and has no theory of mind due to his narcissism. That's why any time reality smacks him upside the head and says "Nobody else wants this shit, you dumbass mongoloid!" it completely short circuits his brain and he can't process it. Then he throws a tantrum and accuses people of lying about not wanting the things he wants because they hate the disabled. He genuinely believes that deep down they really do want what he wants, but are lying simply to spite him.
 
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The Dude said:
He genuinely believes that deep down they really do want what he wants, but are lying simply to spite him.
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That, and that he's the only one with the "cahones" (or however he spelled it) to stand up and make a bunch of noise over it.

And that should be all it takes to make the rest of society rally together behind him in support of whatever he wants (that they all secretly want too, but were just cowardly and waiting for him to say it).
 
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not william stenchever said:
I don't think anyone has rolled up to a mine, especially a subterranean one, in a vehicle like this:
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Mining is regarded in the popular imagination as hard work with little pay in comparison to Oil and Gas jobs.
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That is "Boomtown" behavior, where any able-bodied worker can show up and suddenly find themselves on a large pile of cash. The local economy then turns into a casino-style racket to vacuum as much of that cash up, and is precisely the environment that brothels can be set to have decent income.
 
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Iron Hamster said:
He's too busy making Powerpoint presentations to reply to motions apparently.
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What is it with simple tasks that would take you or I 5 minutes to shit out taxing lolcows to the very limit of the capability and beyond?
If I was trying to convince a town to host my business I'd put a helluva lot more effort than a 5 page PowerPoint with images ripped from Google, saying things like you have miners, their only outlet will be hookers. You have no brothel. I'm your guy. Oh by the way that guy that owned the brothel there SUCKS.
 
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Goofy Logic said:
That is "Boomtown" behavior, where any able-bodied worker can show up and suddenly find themselves on a large pile of cash. The local economy then turns into a casino-style racket to vacuum as much of that cash up, and is precisely the environment that brothels can be set to have decent income.
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Casinos perhaps, but in the era of relatively rapid transit (Winnemucca miners could be in vegas in 7 hours or Reno in two) that's going to be thin on the ground.

Why pay $4k for a whore each month when you can get a cheap floozy girlfriend from Reno for half that?
 
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Dizzyuntildeath said:
If I was trying to convince a town to host my business I'd put a helluva lot more effort than a 5 page PowerPoint with images ripped from Google,
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That slide deck was one of the ugliest I have seen in a very long time. I’m pretty sure early-year High School students that struggle maintaining a C average can shit out a better presentation than that. I guess it is fitting though: an ugly man giving an ugly presentation at least gives it a consistent theme?

Power Point even has tools now that help format your presentation in a professional and appealing way, but that would require Russ to put a modicum of effort into anything in his life.

Also, lol at based Ruth’s responses to rat face. I can imagine the wide smile that crossed her face when she was asked to send Russell’s emails to Hardin.
 
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Power Point even has tools now that help format your presentation in a professional and appealing way, but that would require Russ to put a modicum of effort into anything in his life.
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Can any of the AI tools shit out a powerpoint? I"m sure they could do better than that. Which is why it's so precious.
 
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I was just thinking I really would love to know to what extent this real estate broker Waylon Huber is involved in Greer's shit.

Then I hit up the business entity search just for shits & giggles, entering Greer's name. Well, well, well. Look what's new, to fill the shoes of the sadly-revoked Intimate Dealings LLC!

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And when we view the new LLC's info, what do we find? Some familiar info at first:
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But then:
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Oh deary me. I sure hope Mister Hardin doesn't find out that Greer just registered a brand-new LLC while still professing to be too broke to pay for discovery documents!

I also sure hope Waylon Huber, Broker's family doesn't get wind of what he has involved himself in. Gee whillikers.

(Any way we can obtain those filing history deets? Since it's brand-new, maybe they just aren't uploaded yet?)

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Hello hello. Who do we have here?
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obsdj said:
I was just thinking I really would love to know to what extent this real estate broker Waylon Huber is involved in Greer's shit.

Then I hit up the business entity search just for shits & giggles, entering Greer's name. Well, well, well. Look what's new, to fill the shoes of the sadly-revoked Intimate Dealings LLC!

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And when we view the new LLC's info, what do we find? Some familiar info at first:
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But then:
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Oh deary me. I sure hope Mister Hardin doesn't find out that Greer just registered a brand-new LLC while still professing to be too broke to pay for discovery documents!

I also sure hope Waylon Huber, Broker's family doesn't get wind of what he has involved himself in. Gee whillikers.

(Any way we can obtain those filing history deets? Since it's brand-new, maybe they just aren't uploaded yet?)
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Dizzyuntildeath said:
What is it with simple tasks that would take you or I 5 minutes to shit out taxing lolcows to the very limit of the capability and beyond?
If I was trying to convince a town to host my business I'd put a helluva lot more effort than a 5 page PowerPoint with images ripped from Google, saying things like you have miners, their only outlet will be hookers. You have no brothel. I'm your guy. Oh by the way that guy that owned the brothel there SUCKS.
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obsdj said:
I was just thinking I really would love to know to what extent this real estate broker Waylon Huber is involved in Greer's shit.

Then I hit up the business entity search just for shits & giggles, entering Greer's name. Well, well, well. Look what's new, to fill the shoes of the sadly-revoked Intimate Dealings LLC!

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And when we view the new LLC's info, what do we find? Some familiar info at first:
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But then:
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Oh deary me. I sure hope Mister Hardin doesn't find out that Greer just registered a brand-new LLC while still professing to be too broke to pay for discovery documents!

I also sure hope Waylon Huber, Broker's family doesn't get wind of what he has involved himself in. Gee whillikers.

(Any way we can obtain those filing history deets? Since it's brand-new, maybe they just aren't uploaded yet?)
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Is there anywhere it specifically says Waylon Huber? Just in case Greer got another W.H. to go in on his scheme somehow.

If it is the real estate Waylon, maybe he just really hates the city council and figures enabling Greer will annoy them? I did see he at least ran for the council last year.

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