Culture Carnival’s New Rules Got Black Folks All in Their Feelings, But Others Say the Cruise Line is Justified - Cruise line bans drugs and Bluetooth speakers, stops playing hip-hop or rap, and no longer offers unlimited drinks packages. Blacks most affected.

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Are Carnival's new rules restrictive, or racist? Some folks say it's the latter, and they're cancelling their reservations expeditiously.​

By Angela Wilson
Published July 2, 2025

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An aerial view of the Port of Long Beach at dusk Friday, Feb. 17, 2023. (Allen J. Schaben / Los Angeles Times via Getty Images) / TikTok screenshot

Brawls, assaults, drunken fights, boots on the grounds and fans in hands just might have Carnival Cruise Line saying, "Enough is enough!" And some Black passengers are returning the favor, cancelling their existing reservations or cancelling the cruise line all together because they deem their new rules are racist. But some argue, "Are the new policies racist, or just restrictive?"

The discourse began after Carnival — who has the most allegations of serious crimes committed at sea than any other cruise line sailing from North America, per the FBI — implemented new rules. According to reports, as of June 1, Carnival passengers received a new letter to reinforce their guidelines and code of conduct.

Stricter Enforcement on Drugs​

“Marijuana, including cannabis and its derivatives, and other illegal substances, are unlawful and strictly prohibited on board,” the letter emphasized. "Smoking of any kind in undesignated areas such as staterooms and balconies is strictly prohibited." Even if marijuana is legal for recreational or medicinal use in your home state, it remains illegal under U.S. federal law. Since cruise ships sailing from U.S. ports operate under federal maritime law, all forms of cannabis are prohibited and Carnival has a zero tolerance policy.

If caught, passengers are immediately removed from the ship at the next port, with no refund, permanent ban, the turning over to law enforcement and possible fines.

Curfews​

Guests 17 years of age and under must be out of public areas by 1:00 AM unless they are being accompanied by an adult from their traveling party, aged 21 years of age or older. They are allowed to be in public areas after 1:00 AM only if they are involved in a supervised Club O2 (ages 15-17) or Circle "C" (ages 12-14) teen activity, as these youth programs often host late-night events that allow teens to be out later under staff supervision.

"Boots on the Ground," BUT Leave the Fans at Home​

Passengers can still enjoy those battery-powered fans onboard, but as for those non-battery-operated fans, leave those at home. Carnival cites "safety reasons" for the specific ban for hand-held fans, made popular by "Boots on the Ground: Where Them Fans At?" line dance by 803Fresh, where dancers loudly "clack" fans on certain parts of the song. The cruise line says the "clacking" could cause accidental injuries.

No More Hip-Hop?​

Although Carnival Cruise Line has not officially announced a ban on hip-hop or rap music in their clubs, significant online chatter from some Black passengers say they noticed a reduction or absence of the genre in the clubs.

Some online discussions suggest that Carnival might be moving towards a more "pre-approved" song selection for DJs — who should reportedly decline passenger's requests. The perception comes in the context of Carnival's efforts to address "rowdy crowds" and disruptive behavior on board.

Limited, Unlimited Drink Packages​

The cruise line always had a 15-drink limit per 24-hour period for the "Cheers!" alcoholic beverage package, but now, there's a perception that alleged enforcement has become stricter. Some Black cruisers feel this targets groups who tend to purchase these packages and enjoy lively celebrations.

No More Bluetooth Speakers​

Carnival has reinforced rules against guests playing their own music loudly in public areas, including by the pools and hallways. While ostensibly for everyone's comfort, many Black passengers feel this rule is selectively enforced against them. They argue that other groups might play different genres of music without facing the same level of scrutiny.

Of course folks took to TikTok to express their concerns about the rules.

"Carnival does not have to worry about me," one TikToker said, who said she cancelled her reservation for a friend's birthday. "We got the message loud and clear, we are not your demographic anymore. [...] Carnival decided they wanted to rebrand."

While some were saying goodbye to the cruise line, others welcomed the change. "Y'all have to learn how to act... I'm not gone lie.. y'all really made the value go down. I'm not mad at it." Another added: "I've never seen a carnival cruise video on social media that makes me want to go. It's like the Walmart of cruise lines," while a third wrote: "It's not racism but certain stuff becomes a liability after a while."

"It's not a crackdown on a color its a crackdown on people's behavior," one person reasoned. Other comments included: "Carnival got tired of being the Section 8 of the Sea," "God forbid the company want to protect their brand," and "What's racist about asking ppl to act right?"

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I've only been on one cruise that my in-laws paid for. It was for their 60th Anniversary for their four kids and their spouses. It was a Celebrity ship and I had a pretty good time. Mostly white people, and the few PeeOhCees (PeeOhSeas?) were civilized. No brawls, no rowdiness, no music being blasted on personal speakers. It was exactly what it was supposed to be: a relaxing experience. We went to Cabo San Lucas and had a pretty good time, though we missed a day in Cabo because the ship had engine issues and had to run slower, so Mrs. Dude missed out on a swim with the dolphins experience that she was really looking forward to.
 
Carnival could make more money if they have a black only cruises, with an all black crew. Then they can say those rules don't apply. Everyone wins and we'd know where they are.
It sounds just like Kiwifarms. But would they be allowed to say nigger though?
 
Carnival could make more money if they have a black only cruises, with an all black crew. Then they can say those rules don't apply. Everyone wins and we'd know where they are.

Many of the poor third world schmucks roped into serving aboard a cruise ship rely on tips if they're in the hospitality side of it. They'd fucking mutiny
 
It's a line dance set to this song (archive) and they wave paper fans around as part of the dance:



Also, after watching those videos, I never want to hear "White people can't dance" ever again.
Imagine being some old grandmother who carries around one of those fans (my grandmother did) and finding out it was banned because of black people in a music video.

I take it you’ve never heard of Charley Pride.
Although he was a black man, and not a nigger.
The only other legit black country music star is Darius Rucker. Hootie came in slow and completely switched genres and paid his dues with a few hits, did country sounding country music that people liked, and took it seriously. Way different from Beyonce who just did a novelty record or...whatever this rap bullshit is. It's just hip hop line dancing and even the most "hip" or progressive line dance DJ isn't playing this at The Boot Barn on Line Dance Thursdays.
 
It never surprises me anymore that blacks consider the rule of law and social contracts oppression.
Judging from how Rawanda became less of a shithole when everyone let the less niggerly minority rule over the much more niggerly majority with an iron fist they may have a point. Just not a good one.
 
I'm still so confused at what the point of having a pool on a cruise ship is, sure it makes practical sense but not logical sense.
1. people can go swimming without needing the ship to come to a stop
2. 0 chance of wildlife chomping on passengers
3. retards would swim out of the marked area and get grabbed by a current, or try to dive under the ship and drown
 
The only rule I'd have a problem is the paper fan one since people are gonna stop "clacking" after the song's become old and forgotten, and I don't see why someone else using their fan properly ought to be punished because a nigger couldn't behave.
Would've made more sense to just ban the act of clacking than the fan.

Marijuana was always illegal, that was just the cruise line clarifying that, yes, it is illegal even if it isn't in your state. Curfews makes sense, I've only been on ferries and even they had a curfew. Stricter enforcement of the drinks package just means they've realised people are doing the "I'll buy one and give my drinks to everyone else" thing and the Bluetooth thing is just being respectful to the other guests, a foreign concept apparently.
 
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