🪦 Deceased Joe Winko - THE GAYMASTER/Lol-Bvll / Self admitted Gay Hawaiian Ricardo Milos Cosplayer/Uploaded his consciousness to the Sims/Ed Wood of Machinima

SCRAM said:

His suicide videos are now no longer on Google drive and the decomposition videos haven't been updated since the 26th. Oddly the decomposing folder was modified Aug 5 for some reason.

His YouTube keeps posting pictures and posts and comments are saying you can't schedule pictures and posts like you can do with videos. Someone may be running his account but I'm not a content creator so I have no idea.

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If he knew or stole a little bit of python he could absolutely schedule anything. Not sure if that's what's happening here but with an API key and a bot you can do a lot.

YouTube allows uploaded videos to be pre-scheduled for release. For other social media, there's either built-in options or outside tools like HootSuite. And for regular PC actions, there's like thousands of automation tools, atop of which sits AutoHotkey, being pretty much omnipotent at this point.

I did not follow Joe Winko, just thought he was an interesting weirdo. The feature got me to watch more videos and he’s far more interesting than I had imagined. He has no social facade whatsoever. I get tired of ppl claiming “I’ve got no filter” but Joe literally had no filter, but still had manners.

I’d bet an artist, or someone, is eventually going to take an interest in Joe and his online footprint. I’d expect to see Joe Winko in an art installation in a gallery or museum in the future. He will probably be remembered as noted early online version as an outsider artist, or whatever label they will have for this stuff in 20 years. His online suicide ensues it.

Awssum Possum said:

It's not letting me quote @MirnaMinkoff , but this is my reply to the above comment:

I can 100% confirm the "twin brother named Crystal Winko" is entirely fake and made up by him. The whole character of Crystal Winko originated in one of his Sims movies in 2011, and from then on he LARPed about it being real, and that Crystal's spirt is always with him despite the fact that he never met Crystal and he has no memories of him. His evidence for Crystal existing was that Crystal appeared to him in his dreams.

He also says that Crystal was named that because he had bright blue eyes, which is pretty unlikely given Joe's genetics.

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it’s interesting because those photos seem to show a brother who could be a twin. Did he ever acknowledge having a brother he grew up and was raised with?

He and the brother look different enough from the rest of the clan I believe adoption, or that one of his parents was biologically related to his adopted family. A drug addict parents resulting in adoption is a pretty common scenario. Whether they are dead is another matter. What adopted kids are told about bio parents can range from actual facts to total BS, what info is provided to adoptive parents varies wildly too, then zwhatever he was told got ran through the Winko brain filter.

People that invent adoption stories usually have some ideal or fantasy about their “real parents” whereas Joe just says they were fucked up drug addicts and has negative opinions.

Awssum Possum said:

It's not letting me quote @MirnaMinkoff , but this is my reply to the above comment:

I can 100% confirm the "twin brother named Crystal Winko" is entirely fake and made up by him. The whole character of Crystal Winko originated in one of his Sims movies in 2011, and from then on he LARPed about it being real, and that Crystal's spirt is always with him despite the fact that he never met Crystal and he has no memories of him. His evidence for Crystal existing was that Crystal appeared to him in his dreams.

He also says that Crystal was named that because he had bright blue eyes, which is pretty unlikely given Joe's genetics.

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If I had a nickel Everytime an autistic vlogger has vividly talked about an imaginary twin sibling named "Crystal" with blue eyes I would have two nickels. Which isn't alot but it's weird it happened twice.

neger psykolog said:

I think he was adopted. I'm not sure about the brother being a twin or just looking similar. It appears that he recently deleted some online profiles so is probably aware of what has happened.

If that's the case I'm guessing the brothers were adopted together or something?

Really hard to understand where reality/fiction start and end.

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He has stated he learned about his biological parents and his twin brother later in in life,so my theory is that his parents being insane druggies is true but that his extended family were nice and caring and gave him up to the Winkowskis but have had a shared connection with them.

I’d bet an artist, or someone, is eventually going to take an interest in Joe and his online footprint. I’d expect to see Joe Winko in an art installation in a gallery or museum in the future.

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I know him,he's me.

Didn't know him until after his passing, but he seemed like an unique and interesting person. Too bad to have gone away so soon, didn't seem like a bad apple even if an odd one out.
The Monochrome Set - Goodbye Joe

Vinluv not archiving any of the videos he reposted on here over the years, despite being told to do so in the literally 7th post of the thread, 4 years ago, should be a criminal offence. Half of the videos are gone by now, and not accessible through the YouTube-links provided anymore.

verygayFrogs said:

Archive your links.

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It should be clearer once an obituary is released, but I believe the two older siblings (Ryan and Rochelle) are Joe's half siblings from his mother as they have a different surname. The latter three (Jessica, James Paul, and Joe) are all Winkowskis. These are all the names mentioned by Joe Winko in his suicide video (in addition to his parents' names) so it would make sense that they are his immediate family. (As an aside - my prayers are with his family.)

I think the "adoptive family" idea was fostered by his creative writing/movie-making outlets where he would place his self-insert in different adoptive family scenarios. This also seems to be where the Uncle Romario idea came from (Sims movie scenarios and creepypastas he would write). When you view Joe Winko's Facebook page chronologically, it is a bit chilling how his focus shifts from mainly fictional ideas (like saying RIP to characters who died in his movies) to real life murder/suicide victims. There does seem to be a fair bit of fiction and reality blending over the past decade plus. He was unwell for a long time and his autistic hyperfixations being primarily death-related was a recipe for disaster.

I believe he resembles both sides of his family and his siblings. I haven't been able to find a picture of his mother, only his maternal aunt, but there is definitely resemblance there IMO.


I could be wrong though. Regardless, whether he was actually adopted or not, I do believe it was 100% true in his mind either way.

Do we ever know why he was an exclusive top and seemed disinterested in giving anal? Is this normal among the gays?

MeeksPeak said:

Honestly, the more I see stuff about him and his family, the more I’m thinking he got lost in his own narratives and delusions, or he was doing a lot of attention-seeking online by creating this sad story about himself (which wouldn’t be surprising considering the huge set up he created for his suicide to be found online). With all of his Sims movies and his creativity, it’s not hard to believe he would come up with a story to make himself more interesting than he actually was. And all the countless failed relationships he had with these doubtful men… there must have been some sorta reason we didn’t know about. You know… I’m starting to wonder if his suicide was a big attention-seeking thing… and he didn’t actually want to die, and he got way too lost in his own delusions or “his sad story” he created for himself, and thought he was suffering mentally for real when it was more or less the case.

Either way, if he had a family who truly cared for him like we can see on the pictures, I can’t help but feel sympathy for them, with him having filmed his own suicide, easy to reach for anyone who truly cared about him. Can’t imagine having a family member’s suicide just being online forever.

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I don't think much more explanation is needed for why none of the relationships worked out than what was already publicly well known, he was an effeminate gay twink who only wanted to have his dick sucked never being the one himself to suck, never taking it in the ass and rarely if ever giving it in the ass while demanding that these old degenerate fags act constantly obsessed with him and remain exclusive to him and if that wasn't enough his social media is filled with his death note full of ex's, he clearly had an obsession with death and the occult and towards the end of his life started having fantasies about a literal corpse. I'm a desperate straight man and I wouldn't stick around with a woman who had that many red flags who demanded that I spend all day eating her out while she never reciprocates, and from my understanding gays are nowhere near as picky as actual women so there wasn't even much desperation to stick around him.

As for not wanting to kill himself... well you don't normally quadruple the lethal dosage of your poison of choice if you want to survive, nor do you schedule videos and pictures to be taken automatically as far out as he intended. Lets say he did survive his suicide attempt, what would even be on those photos? an empty room?

Shiva said:

When you view Joe Winko's Facebook page chronologically, it is a bit chilling how his focus shifts from mainly fictional ideas (like saying RIP to characters who died in his movies) to real life murder/suicide victims. There does seem to be a fair bit of fiction and reality blending over the past decade plus. He was unwell for a long time and his autistic hyperfixations being primarily death-related was a recipe for disaster.

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Even just in the farms thread there's a clear progression of detachment from reality in the time that it's gone on. early on it seemed he just viewed the suicides as relatable and sad but once the Rolf era started I knew his death was coming soon. Out of everyone that could be genuinely responsible for his suicide being this way I'd probably put it on the witchcraft community for encouraging his idea of "manifestation" which just further isolated him and make him look crazy while also presenting a means he can get to go on awesome heaven road trips with Rolf. 300 years ago someone like him would have had better theological grounding discouraging pointless death, discouraging his lifestyle and would have got him a nice wife to spend all day sucking his cock.

Obscura-Justin said:

Joe Winko lived down the street from me and his death has resonated with me.

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You knew him? How long? Did you know him well? Or was he always a cryptid? It's like God wanted Joe to become an enigmatic legend.

I'm a bit confused about the earlier recounting of the technique. (not suicidal, just confused)

When he was talking about 21 grams, he was measuring the cup that he was filling with a white substance — a white substance that he had stowed and then re-stows in several layers of zip-lock bags. Later he adds a transparent liquid to the cup containing the desired amount of the white substance, and stirs until dissolved. He then gets distracted by something, so he put the cup down closest to him on the table, he left then came back, talked for a while, then drank the mixed liquid. After drinking this solution, he then reached into the fridge, got a black bottle container about the size of his hand, attached the mask to it, then strapped it to his head.

The white substance, the liquid substance, that comprises the solution that he drinks, and the black bottle that he straps to mask then straps to his face, are distinct things. So far the the recounts seem to conflate these things. What are they?

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As for the phone disappearing in the last screenshot tuple, notice his bandana was also moved. Someone had come in, checked him, taken the phone, and then would have returned and ended the uploads.

This guy was incredibly interesting. This family story collapsing really is insane. Makes me wonder what else he intentionally or delusionally lied about, and what his real reason for suicide could have been. Any armchair psychiatrists want to tell us what kind of mental illness he could've had besides autism. 90% this website is autistic and we don't slip into such insane beliefs.

balupton said:

The white substance, the liquid substance, that comprises the solution that he drinks, and the black bottle that he straps to mask then straps to his face, are distinct things. So far the the recounts seem to conflate these things. What are they?

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Sodium Nitrate and Carbon Dioxide canister with a sealed mask designed for suicide. You can look here at an old method people used back in 2022-2023, but this guy who ran this website is one of the biggest murderers ever. Here's the same guys different website selling Sodium Nitrate. There's multiple people selling this stuff, so even if it doesn't match the ones in the video, it is from another source.

Read the thread next time, nigger.

Sieg1888 said:

This guy was incredibly interesting. This family story collapsing really is insane. Makes me wonder what else he intentionally or delusionally lied about, and what his real reason for suicide could have been. Any armchair psychiatrists want to tell us what kind of mental illness he could've had besides autism. 90% this website is autistic and we don't slip into such insane beliefs.

Sodium Nitrate and Carbon Dioxide canister with a sealed mask designed for suicide. You can look here at an old method people used back in 2022-2023, but this guy who ran this website is one of the biggest murderers ever. Here's the same guys different website selling Sodium Nitrate. There's multiple people selling this stuff, so even if it doesn't match the ones in the video, it is from another source.

Read the thread next time, nigger.

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Schizophrenia PTSD from being molested and depression and BPD for his cattiness. This is my best guess with Joe. Reminds me of how other lolcows will rally behind one REALLY obvious mental illness just to ignore all the others so they. technically aren't lying or hiding the truth.

Wow, guys, great job on your internet sleuthing!
I met Joe Winko in 2020, my landlord at the time got him a bus ticket to visit Orlando. He brought him downtown while he worked and let Joe roam Lake Eola, the Orlando Weekly wrote an article about it. I always thought it was funny that Winko described my landlord as a stranger in the video.

He arrived in civilian clothes and gladly changed to his iconic look when I asked him why he wasn’t sporting it. I talked to him a little bit, he had a hard time with understanding humor, so I had to be plainspoken. What I remember most was him talking about tornados and how he scientifically proven he could use fat people to save himself if he was in the path of one. Joe Winko was no scientist.

Eventually they retired to his room. I’ve tried many times to ask him what happened in there but the most I got out of him was “It was too odd. I couldn’t wait to get rid of him.” He dropped off Winko at the bus station the next day.

I’ve been following Winko ever since.

I was surprised you guys were able to figure out his real name, I found it out through connections. I know that they even called the bomb squad in.

I’m really curious about what parts of his life story was true, I believe that he wasn’t actually adopted, never lived in Hawaii, and that his uncle was made up.

I was one of those whose first/only experience of Joe was the suicide video, and wondering why he was a lolcow, however figured it out.

Watching this video linked earlier — https://youtu.be/EUMoralg60c?si=Mdq2wHd2xQ-7g2lh&t=2086 — Joe had some serious main character syndrome:
"I have a strong sense of identity."
"I would stab myself in the heart, before I changed myself, seriously."

He does say however he would only wear the bandana for photos/videos/etc. However, I wonder if he were ever to attend a wedding or funeral whether he would attempt to wear it, and when everyone there becomes horrified at the distracting redirection of attention away from the event's purpose and towards him, he would lambast everyone as "selfish stupid judgemental idiots not even worth his time in the first place".

The world didn't reject Joe, Joe rejected the world. You gotta build bridges in the world, but he requests everyone to already be on his side, and is vindictive and patronising when they are not.

Sieg1888 said:

Sodium Nitrate and Carbon Dioxide canister with a sealed mask designed for suicide.

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Thanks. Still trying to understand the reason for the combination. Are they meant to interact with each other? Surely nitrogen or carbon monoxide would have been better things to inhale? Inhaling carbon dioxide seems awful.

Shiva said:

I think the "adoptive family" idea was fostered by his creative writing/movie-making outlets where he would place his self-insert in different

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Ok, seeing these ppl I can believe they are his parents. The photos before I didn’t see obvious white polish parent, but who you show as his dad plus a black woman would produce Joe Wilco no problem. Or dad had babies with some other black woman and remarried another. Whatever it may be those photos are definitely candidates as being his actual parents.

If the adoption thing is 100% fiction it’s even more interesting, given that Hawaiian and adopted were two major components of his identity. I wonder if the Hawaiian thing is a total fabrication too. Could be. A mixed raced guy like that would be told he looked Hawaiian by nice Midwestern ppl trying to avoid saying mixed or part black.

His fixation on true crime might explain the origin story he came up with. It’s like a perfect serial killer origin story.

Vinluv Handesbukia said:

I know him,he's me.

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I’m glad, and glad there was someone taking an active interest while he was alive because that was obviously very important to Joe.

The way he meticulously planned his death, produced lots of media in anticipation for it and even stuff uploaded after death, is like nothing I’ve ever seen.

Joe definitely was around or affected by some grief filed black funeral culture at some point. I almost want an airbrushed “fly high Joe Winko” in neon calligraphy with a grainy b&w photo on a t-shirt.

Unfortunately his death with be the focal point but he seemed to well understand that and revel in it. watching a guy plan his death and his digital afterlife will certainly interest a lot of ppl, well beyond us weirdo connoisseurs at KF. It’s definitely something the performance art niche in the artworld would be crazy about.

Joewinkohistorian said:

I know that they even called the bomb squad in.

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What do you mean? When he was found dead? What's the image in relation to? You're skipping over too many things here lol

Sieg1888 said:

What do you mean? When he was found dead? What's the image in relation to? You're skipping over too many things here lol

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Sorry, I thought the photo was easy to distinguish. That’s a photo of the dispatch for Winko.

Just a tourist here from the post on the front page, but I have to say, that Joe Winko is absolutely fascinating. Having gone through the entire thread, leading up to the last few pages where the mystery of Joe Winko’s real identity are being uncovered is almost surreal. This very much reminds me of an internet serial (think a slender man series or something like that), where every day you get a new clip or post or something to add a little to the mystery or reveal some small truth pointing to a bigger picture. I don’t know if that’s intentional on his part, but it almost seems that way.

In any case, fly high Joe Winko. In death you’re spreading even farther than before, and I think you knew that

Rome Is Burning said:

Just a tourist here from the post on the front page, but I have to say, that Joe Winko is absolutely fascinating. Having gone through the entire thread, leading up to the last few pages where the mystery of Joe Winko’s real identity are being uncovered is almost surreal. This very much reminds me of an internet serial (think a slender man series or something like that), where every day you get a new clip or post or something to add a little to the mystery or reveal some small truth pointing to a bigger picture. I don’t know if that’s intentional on his part, but it almost seems that way.

In any case, fly high Joe Winko. In death you’re spreading even farther than before, and I think you knew that

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I almost don’t want his real identity spread. Weirdly enough I prefer to spread whatever his ideal was. Maybe because he was such a harmless/goofy guy.