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Should be a wild four years.

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The most shocking thing that happened last night was that, somehow, nobody summoned the Hulkster. I'd say I'm proud of all of you, but then way too many people kept falling for @Fatpacks' bait and I'm like come on guys.
 
PSA: SCOTUS will hear the tariff case that will make or break Trump's foreign economic policy for his entire second term in 5 minutes.
He’s already signaled that any negative ruling will be nignored
Definitely and it shows that:

1. Trump voters are not a given. Many of those outside the MAGA core gave Mandami a chance.
2. Young voters are not a given. Independent young men stayed home.
3. Democrat political games are guaranteed (no duh), and they are still smarter than they look.
4. Not cutting down on H1B is a losing game (weak economy or not).
5. MIGA/MUGA is not a winning solution no matter how much horse trading is done with the NeoCons.
6. Kirk's loss is still felt, especially considering the fact that the State Republicans are still losers who don't understand that the voting game has changed and you can't make it all up on Election Day.
7. States can be permanently lost- Virginia likely will be the next in line. As such, bragging about spending less is a fool's errand.
8. People want results. Fire Bondi, ignore the judges, and purge Washington- time's a ticking.
This summarizes what I think quite well. It’s worth noting that many of the major infrastructure/manufacturing investments Trump made a few months ago will only break ground early next year. Until those come to fruition and something is done about visa abuse, the economy will not improve.
 
No one could make a stereotype as viscerally offensive as your behavior already is. Your a foreigner here for marriage (one you couldn’t even be faithful in mind you) and try to gate keep our politics
Seethe is insane. I pointed out the ridiculousness of a naturalized citizen claiming to be more American than a natural born citizen, you took it somewhere else entirely

Can you point me towards those documents? (You can’t because they don’t exist)

The State Department paid hundreds of thousands of dollars in taxpayers grants to an Israeli group that used the money to build a campaign to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in last year's Israeli parliamentary elections, a congressional investigation concluded Tuesday.

Some $350,000 was sent to OneVoice, ostensibly to support the group's efforts to back Israeli-Palestinian peace settlement negotiations. But OneVoice used the money to build a voter database, train activists and hire a political consulting firm with ties to President Obama's campaign - all of which set the stage for an anti-Netanyahu campaign, the Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations said in a bipartisan staff report.

In one stunning finding, the subcommittee said OneVoice even told the State Department's top diplomat in Jerusalem of its plans in an email, but the official, Consul General Michael Ratney, claims never to have seen them.

He said he regularly deleted emails with large attachments - a striking violation of open-records laws for a department already reeling from former Secretary Hillary Clinton's handling of official government records.


Today, the House Judiciary Committee released a memo titled "The Biden-Harris Administration's Funding of Anti-Netanyahu Non-Governmental Organizations," detailing how the Biden-Harris Administration neglected its oversight responsibilities and misused taxpayer dollars through the U.S. Agency for International Development (USAID), the State Department, and other federal agencies. These funds were used—both directly and indirectly—to support anti-Netanyahu organizations and terrorist groups.
Israeli NGO Blue White Future received funds from NGOs—including some U.S. grant recipients—and funded the coalition headquarters for the anti-Netanyahu judicial reform protest.
The Biden-Harris Administration provided $42,000 to an Israeli NGO, Movement for Quality Government, to conduct "Civic Activism Training" in Israeli high schools.
U.S. nonprofit PEF Israel Endowment Funds provided over $884 million to groups involved in anti-democracy protests in Israel.
U.S. nonprofit Jewish Communal Fund (JCF) provided over $42.8 million to the anti-Netanyahu protest headquarters in Israel and the protests’ two main funders.
U.S. nonprofit Middle East Peace Dialogue Network (MEPDN) may be violating 501(c)(3) provisions of U.S. law by funding anti-democracy protests in Israel.
Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors likely provided portions of its $20 million in federal grants from the Biden-Harris Administration to groups funding Israeli protests.
The Biden-Harris Administration provided U.S. government funding to terrorist-linked NGOs.

Same tactics as in the Ukrainian Maidan. I'm not mad at this as this is normal statecraft but there is a very well known deep state in Israel operating against Netanyahu that had the support of US Democrats.
States can be permanently lost- Virginia likely will be the next in line. As such, bragging about spending less is a fool's errand.
Virginia has a trend of flipping the opposite way from the presidency as I understand, doesn't really indicate much.
 
Why do you think he's telling them to get rid of the filibuster? He doesn't give a fuck that it's a safeguard for the senate, he's trying to get in as much shit as he can, as fast as he can, while he still can.
That’s not a bad thing! If they can push Voter ID through and codify the EOs, it’ll be a hell of a lot harder for the Dems to win come 28.
 
The tariff issue needs to be argued from a "if you remove this, despite it being given to the President and now magically it doesn't count because Trump is in power, you are explicitly stating America is an economic zone and not a country, beholden to other countries being allowed to do what they want." SCOTUS has to see that right now, if they fold on things, it will just make things infinitely worse in a few years. Trump is smart to talk about the filibuster by emphasizing they will pack the court.


As for last night, '22 was supposed to go one way but didn't, and lessons were learned quick. They always show their retard hand too early.
 
The election results were not a colossal defeat or a Pyrrhic victory. For governor elections, this was fairly typical when considering the historical trends.
That might be true, but the goal should be to buck trends, not keep to em.How do you like the 'trend' of mass migration buddy?

But i do agree with the spirit of your argument, doomposter are retarded, but changes need to be made regardless.
The tariff issue needs to be argued from a "if you remove this, despite it being given to the President and now magically it doesn't count because Trump is in power, you are explicitly stating America is an economic zone and not a country, beholden to other countries being allowed to do what they want." SCOTUS has to see that right now, if they fold on things, it will just make things infinitely worse in a few years. Trump is smart to talk about the filibuster by emphasizing they will pack the court.
I do not think that is what is being argued though.I believe that the arguments against the tariffs is that the specific reasoning he used to impose wide tariffs are not sufficient for the scope
 
That’s not a bad thing! If they can push Voter ID through and codify the EOs, it’ll be a hell of a lot harder for the Dems to win come 28.
I'm still concerned that they don't have the numbers in the Senate to ram everything through at once.

Rep. Collins
Rep. Murkowski
Rep. McConnell
Rep. Tillis
Rep. Paul

Are the ones that I could see throwing this all away, though I could see Collins and Tillis being negotiated with.
 
There’s been talk of funny business with Christie for years.

An Essex County Sicilian, Chris Christie could count the Genovese crime family in his kin, via his aunt who married to Tino “The Greek” Fiumara, former head of the family.

He was the US attorney between 2002-2008, appointed by George W Bush, despite never having practiced law in a federal courtroom and barely having any experience in criminal law at baseline.

During this time he successfully prosecuted 130 cases against corrupt state and local officials from both parties, even reportedly surprising the Bush administration with the targets he went after.
He pioneered the use of DPAs (deferred prosecution agreements) to squeeze lawbreaking corporations into cutting checks for political allies.

Oddly, the famous South Jersey Democrat political kingmaker George Norcross kept his sword in its scabbard during Christie’s tenure. (You may remember Norcross from a funny incident wherein the Philadelphia Inquirer was running a multipart exposé on the man, when its owner died suddenly in a private plane crash and the paper immediately became a toothless shitlib rag.) It’s been implied that they reached some kind of agreement that kept the democrats at bay when he ran for reelection, based on how little support Barbara Buono got from her party when she tried to unseat him in 2013.
TLDR
Nothing about that fat loser makes sense without corruption in play. The Democrat boss of the state was probably in bed with him at the time.
He's a greaseball from New Jersey. All of those Italians in the east coast are two family members away from organized crime.
 
Another update on this case today: The Ag Secretary has a new court filing.
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Attached to this are a letter to the states' SNAP administrators, with a chart detailing the reduced SNAP amounts for the states and territories/possessions.
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Minimal gibs forthcoming after all. USA! USA!

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This is the case of Half the States v. America, filed in the District Court of Massachusetts. As I've shared previously, USDA bent the knee and agreed to blow all the meager contingency funds on letting people have partial gibs for the month of November. (Recall that the contingency fund contained only about $6 billion, whereas it costs about $9 billion per month to administer full SNAP benefits.) Yesterday they submitted their plan to the court, such as it was. The judge then put out a docket text order telling the parties to keep her updated on how it's shaking out, essentially:
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Today, though, the states are big mad, see attached. They confirm that USDA did indeed do what they said. But...
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"This is going to be too hard! It'll take too long! We can't do math! We'll make mistakes, even though distributing the monies to the recipients is literally our job! WE WANT FULL BENNIES EVEN IF YOU TAKE IT FROM THE KIDS' SCHOOL LUNCH MONEY LIKE THE JUDGE SAID BEFORE!"

As of this morning, there is still no TRO or injunction in place. Yet. A hearing is scheduled for November 13.

Link to the CourtListener docket (be warned though that the docket consists mostly of lawyers requesting pro hac vice and submitting notices of appearance; literally half the states are suing after all, and they each have multiple lawyers).
 
white pill, status quo is a huge victory for the left apparently.
MAGA can turn out for these off-year races but it shouldn't be up to Trump randomly screeching about them online. It looks like we could actually win them if the GOP actually put money and time into them but the old guard with all the money and political clout seem to be declaring Jihad on everybody who thinks that we need to pull back on Internationalism a bit to fix the country. Extremely dead set on Israel first at all costs even if it means that the US collapses. No more weapons and moneys to protect their precious jews from everybody around them who wants them dead.

The Biden admin should've given the Israel firsters, now trying to sabotage the Republican party over Tucker Carlson talking to a gay mexican, a glimpse of a world without the US. A bunch of dune coon ragheads armed with vintage Cold War kit being able to embargo their precious Israel cutting them off from the rest of the world. The US Navy is the sole entity on the planet that guarantees Global trade. You would think that they would be able to think that far ahead into the future.
 
There is nothing more cosmically frustrating than having two political parties where one is utterly demonic and evil but extremely capable and persistent and the other is right on most things but is the absolute most docole, spineless, pathetic group of losers imaginable. You could hand them victory on a silver platter and they'd still fuck it up.
 
It seems to me that Republicans will come out and vote for the big ones, and neglect smaller elections. Even with people having nazi tattoos and saying they want to kill Republican children, it doesn't matter to these people.
Me, i dragged myself out of an office job, that I hate, to go vote yesterday. Such a struggle.

I never thought I was old until yesterday, when I saw a lot of people my age voting in the middle of the day.
 
As of this morning, there is still no TRO or injunction in place. Yet. A hearing is scheduled for November 13.
Aren't those kind of "TROs" where a judge declares the entire government do something (as opposed to restraining them from doing something) explicitly forbidden by SCOTUS now?
 
Go kill them then. Dunno why the fuck you're tagging me to whine.
@Null please bully at me too!!!!
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wait til they count my votes, Ross Perot still has a shot!
Oh you believe Obama is Christian lol
anyone can believe anything and say they are Christian, many "Catholics" and Christians are pro abortion even though it is foundationally inappropriate to be.
Let's not pretend that tonight wasn't a giant assfucking for team Red
All areas that lost have historically gone Blue went blue, but republicans can't keep letting that happen if they want to start winning midterms. I do wonder if some of the VA GOV win was contributable to the complete rejection of the (liberal) Washington DC establishment and the current shutdown, it's my understanding that's where the wealthy workers of DC live.
 
Goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooood morning, USPG2, and welcome to a very special post-off-year-election edition of Whitepill Wednesday with your host, Diana Moon Glampers!

Lot of doomposting last night and this morning about Mr. Mamdani being elected the mayor of New York City in the year of our Lord 2025.

To this doomposting, I can only ask:

Do you actually think socialism works?

No, I mean, sit with that for a minute. Do you, Mr. "I'm a Republican and I believe in conservative values," actually somewhere on the inside think socialism is actually the best system, one that will make life better for others? Are you only against it because you're greedy and don't want everyone to be prosperous, only you?

Probably fucking not, right? You probably think, because you haven't totally ignored the lessons of the 20th and 21st centuries, that socialism doesn't work very well at all! You probably think that it is a bullshit system that lends itself to corruption on a massive scale, raises crime rates, makes things more unaffordable, and in many other ways is just a bad idea.

It's not 2027 right now. It's 2025. This election means Mr. Mamdani has several years to fuck up New York City before the Democrats can hold their next primary. Do you think he's capable of being an effective mayor for that long? Do you think he'll be able to avoid illegal corruption in that time (or that the current feds have any interest in covering it up if he does)?

But Diana, you say, that's accelerationism. Accelerationism never works!

Dummy, I'm not talking about the fucking presidential election. New York City is the best possible place for this to occur. It's too large for a socialist platform to effectively manage even for a short time. It's full of finance guys and large corporations and Very High Net Worth Individuals who can make a huge part of the city's tax base disappear even with only a 1-2% pullback in population. Oh yeah, and the vast majority of companies with a location there either have one somewhere else, too, or could afford to have one somewhere else.

It's also just a municipality. It's not a state, or a country. If Mamdani says it's time for sharia law or appropriating the houses of the rich, the Supreme Court will shut him down instantly. He is under a microscope. If he steps one toe outside the bounds of constitutionality, he will get a rapid judicial slapdown.

All regular Americans also know that New York City's residents aren't...exactly like us. But what's about to happen will be wild: New York gets worse, while New Yorkers who voted for Mamdani loudly proclaim that it's getting better. People will be getting knifed on the subway every week and when it drives down prices of the housing near the stations where it happens most, they'll celebrate affordability. And because New York is uniquely full of journalists and has a spotlight on it at all times, it'll all be broadcast live to all of regular America. Everyone will see the bloom come off the rose.

By the time the 2028 primaries come around, one of two things will have happened: Mamdani will have disastrously implemented socialist policies and the whole country will have gotten to see socialism in action...or he will be a normal politician who brings no change and represents the status quo.

Either way, it's hard to see a socialist candidate prevailing at the primaries almost exactly two years after Mamdani takes office: they'd be seen as either all talk and no action, or as a dangerous and irresponsible expansion of policies already failing in the largest US city.

The only way you can believe that the outcome will be anything else is if you think socialism is actually kind of good, might actually work, might be just the thing NYC really needs. As long as you don't live in the NYC metro (sorry, @Catch The Rainbow ), the fact that this happened three years out from the next presidential election is a gift. It's enough time to let socialism work some of its magic...the same kind of magic that made Yugoslavia and Angola prosperous and peaceful.

Meanwhile, it looks like the Somalian pirate isn't going to win in Minneapolis (I noticed that the liberal media took this election out of the news cycle when it became apparent it wouldn't result in another progressive victory to tout, which makes me wonder how many other progressives got shut out and we didn't even hear about it because the "story" was already prewritten: whichever "socialist progressive" looked most likely to win would get coverage so the media can talk about how this means people are fed up with Trump, while the rest would go quiet). That would have been worse, because Minneapolis has a lot of decent people and doesn't have enough local reporters on the ground (or with enough national connections) to actually ensure the results of such an election in the coming years would have been visible nationwide.

Anyway, if you see someone doompilling about Mamdani today, you have every right to ask them if they're really a pinko on the inside. We all know 2-3 years is plenty to disillusion people about an ideology, that's literally why midterms are almost always a swing toward whatever party isn't in power. Mamdani is positioning himself as the bastion of socialism at a time when the "midterm" evaluation of his administration (which, again, is almost always negative for every party!) will be happening right as Democrats duke it out over who will be the party nominee in 2028.

If you actually do live in NYC...maybe consider some alternative options. I hear the Poconos are lovely, with a commutable radius for a hybrid job.

Anyway, this has been Diana Moon Glampers with a Whitepill Wednesday. Chin up, and don't let the commies grind ya down.
 
Are absolute lies allowed in this thread?
I mean, you post on here right?
Yesterday they submitted their plan to the court, such as it was. The judge then put out a docket text order telling the parties to keep her updated on how it's shaking out, essentially:
What exactly do they expect? THERE IS NO MONEY! Anyway, i expect the shutdown to end pretty soon.
 
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