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A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

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Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

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TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.
 
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I'll never not laugh at seeing Indians buy crates and crates of bottled water whenever I'm shopping. Sorry pajeets, we actually have a functioning water system (for now).
Drinking tons of bottled water means they will get more microplastics into their system meaning they have less swimmers. Clearly we need to market more bottled water to Indians .
 
I'll never get the obsession with water filters because regular tap water is completely harmless. Either I'm seriously missing out on the water industry drastically getting worse over the past 10 years or you're all genuinely germophobes terrified of anything but atomically perfect H20.

I'll never not laugh at seeing Indians buy crates and crates of bottled water whenever I'm shopping. Sorry pajeets, we actually have a functioning water system (for now).
In my case we need a filter installed since our area has hard as fuck water. So using it as-is is a nice way to foul all the insides of the kettle, washing machine, etc with tons of limescale. It's cheaper to get the filter than have to deal with appliance replacements/fixups due to limescale buildup.
That plus the whole thing of hormones/microplastics/etc in the water supply and all that. If stopping my kettle from getting clogged to shit means I also don't have shitted-up water in general, then it all works out.
 
In my case we need a filter installed since our area has hard as fuck water. So using it as-is is a nice way to foul all the insides of the kettle, washing machine, etc with tons of limescale. It's cheaper to get the filter than have to deal with appliance replacements/fixups due to limescale buildup.
That plus the whole thing of hormones/microplastics/etc in the water supply and all that. If stopping my kettle from getting clogged to shit means I also don't have shitted-up water in general, then it all works out.
Yeah I've always used a brita filter for any water that's getting heated. I think people who haven't lived around hard water don't understand how much of a constant fucking nuisance it is.

Tastes good though, I don't filter the drinking water.
 
Yeah I've always used a brita filter for any water that's getting heated. I think people who haven't lived around hard water don't understand how much of a constant fucking nuisance it is.

Tastes good though, I don't filter the drinking water.
The taste of hard water is great. Soft is sweet and dusty. I don't miss my washing machine dying on me every 18 months though
On washing machines, my most recent one is a top loader and it's bloody amazing. Gravity makes it drain better and it washes so well. Why we're so beholden to front loaders is beyond me.
 
I'll never get the obsession with water filters because regular tap water is completely harmless. Either I'm seriously missing out on the water industry drastically getting worse over the past 10 years or you're all genuinely germophobes terrified of anything but atomically perfect H20.
The tap water where I am tastes and smells like pool water. There's way too too much chlorine in it to be used for anything other than to wash dishes or to shower.
 
I'll never get the obsession with water filters because regular tap water is completely harmless
I doubt a Brita filter could filter out these chemicals, but I can understand people being hesitant about tap water. More of an American thing, but this did happen here only about forty years ago:


The Camelford water pollution incident involved the accidental contamination of the drinking water supply to the town of Camelford, Cornwall, in July 1988. Twenty tonnes of aluminium sulphate was inadvertently added to the water supply, raising the concentration to 3,000 times the permissible level. As the aluminium sulphate broke down it produced several tonnes of sulphuric acid which "stripped a cocktail of chemicals from the pipe networks as well as lead and copper piping in people's homes."
Immediately after the contamination the authorities said that the water was safe to drink, possibly with juice to cover the unpleasant taste.

Drinking tons of bottled water means they will get more microplastics into their system
There's also this, yeah. Your little swimmers are damned if they do, damned if they don't.
 
The tap water where I am tastes and smells like pool water. There's way too too much chlorine in it to be used for anything other than to wash dishes or to shower.
You know your water’s clean when it smells like bleach, though.

It’s always struck me how different the water tastes from area to area. Brum water tastes fucking horrible. The water in the north west of Scotland tasted like cow shit. Where I am now there’s a slightly metallic, almost sweet taste to the water and it’s lovely. I do prefer hard water to make tea, though. It just tastes better. Maybe it depends what you’re used to.

The glass kettle fashion really made me realise just how much lime was in our water though, holy fuck. That thing is never clean. How do the water pipes all over the house not get clogged up with this stuff over time?

Edit: and I thought we were all supposed to be under water in tens years, save for a few towns on top of Snowdon and Ben Nevis. How are we short of water? There’s floods every year.
 
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On washing machines, my most recent one is a top loader and it's bloody amazing. Gravity makes it drain better and it washes so well. Why we're so beholden to front loaders is beyond me.
The objective reason is that front loaders wash better and use less water for the same load. The real reason is that they fit under the kitchen worktop.
 
The objective reason is that front loaders wash better and use less water for the same load. The real reason is that they fit under the kitchen worktop.
My house doesn't have a water meter, I'm on rateable value and tbh,a rammed full load washes great in my machine.And it doesn't have that fusty washing machine smell. I'll admit I'm spoiled because I have a cellar with the washing machine, dryer and food storage down there,and I am lucky for that. I know a top loader wouldn't fit in the kitchen but I am absolutely a convert now.

Also joys of living in an older house: built in cupboards and an airing cupboard. It's wonderful.
 
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It make ssense now, the whole "demote the st george flag (England) flag"...because it is the official representation of the church in England, many include symbols in the top left corner, but overall, the St.George flag is the official icon for the Church of England. I don't believe in god, but I don't believe in muslims here. I'm worried, if I flew a St. George flag outside my house, I would get reported. I live in a white majority neighbourhood.
 

The Secretary of State for Justice, Mr David Lammy, has officially announced in The House of Commons his proposals for criminal court reform during a speech.​


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Official Video: on Parliamentlive.tv at 12:40:27

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The reasons cited for the necessity of these reforms are:​

  1. A 78,000 record backlog of cases in the Crown Court.
    • Which is is projected to reach 100,000 cases by 2028
  2. Long wait times for cases to go before the Crown Court.
    • (Authors Note: The median waiting time was 44.7 weeks for a Crown Court Trial, from time of pleading Not Guilty)
  3. A decrease in the number of Guilty Pleassince the year 2000.

  4. In the year to June, 11,000 cases were dropped after a charge, as victims no longer supported or felt they could support the case.
    • (Authors Note: This figure includes ALL refusals by victims to support prosecution, regardless of reason)

Mr Lammy then announced the following reforms:​

  1. Up to £34 million per year in additional funding for criminal legal aid advocates.
  2. match-fund a number of pupillages in criminal law.
  3. Negotiate sitting days with the senior judiciary through the usual concordat process.
    • Aiming to give an unprecedented three-year certainty to the system.
  4. Create new “swift courts” within the Crown court (No jury) for triable either-way cases with a likely sentence of three years or less.
    • A judge alone deciding verdicts.
    • Judges must provide reasoning for their verdicts in open court.
      • (Authors Note: This is similar to the current Civil Court process.)
    • Estimated (By Sir Brian) to deliver justice at least 20% faster than jury trials.
    • The magistracy should decide where a case is heard.
    • prevent defendants from gaming the system.
      • (Authors Note: The UK is officially one of the first countries to state that electing a Jury Trial is "gaming the system")
  5. Limit appeals from the magistrates courts.
    • Only allowed on points of law.
      • (Authors Note: No right of appeal for sentence, or for challenging interpretation of facts.)
    • To "prevent justice from being delayed further".
  6. Increase magistrates court sentencing powers to 18 months.
    • So that they can take on a greater proportion of lower-level offending and relieve pressure.
    • Could be extended to two years, should it become necessary.
  7. Exceptionally technical and lengthy fraud and financial trials, judges will be able to sit without a jury where appropriate.
    • They place undue pressure on jurors to sit for months.
  8. Provide £550 million in multi-year funding for victim support services.
    • Including specialist emotional and practical support for victims of domestic abuse and sexual violence, and increase budgets to reflect rising costs.
It seems the rumours going around regarding the reduction in jury trials were right. From my understanding Primary Legislation — a bill passed by Parliament — is required to push these reforms through, and considering the shambolic state of the Labour Party's grasp on power, it's unlikely to go through without being either watered down significantly or causing a vote of no confidence. Reform voters ought to rejoice in hearing this, as the tried and tested method of doing nothing and letting your opponents shoot themselves in the foot is thus far a resounding success. Nigel Farage is likely to continue his unbroken streak of making easy slam dunks on the Labour Party, much to the chagrin of the average Labour voter.

@Null Please fix the list options on this gay website, it's fucking aids to make a list with nice even spacing and a. i. sublists options don't exist, also here is your daily dose of Angloid tears.

With your permission, Mr Speaker I will make a statement on criminal court reform.

As the House is aware, the first part of the independent review of criminal courts was published in July. I am grateful to its chair, Sir Brian Leveson—one of the foremost judges of his generation—and to his expert advisers, Professor David Ormerod, Chris Mayer and Shaun McNally. In this review, Sir Brian has produced a blueprint for once-in-a-generation court reform. That is desperately needed, because the Government inherited an emergency in our courts: a record and rising backlog currently at 78,000 cases, and victims face agonising delays, with some trials not listed for years. All the while, defendants bide their time. The guilty plea rate has decreased every year since the year 2000. In the year to June, 11,000 cases were dropped after a charge because victims no longer supported or felt they could support the case.

Behind the statistics are real people. Katie was repeatedly abused by her partner. She reported him to the police in 2017, but then had an unbearable six-year wait for justice. During that time, she lost a job because her mental health deteriorated. She became increasingly isolated, lived in fear and lost faith in the court system. That is not isolated; it is systemic.

We are all proud of our justice system, rooted in Magna Carta, but we must never forget that it implores us not to “deny or delay right or justice.”

When victims are left waiting for years, justice is effectively denied to them. That is a betrayal of our legal heritage and of victims themselves. Some will ask why we do not simply increase funding. This Government have already invested heavily in the courts, including nearly £150 million to make them fit for purpose, a commitment of £92 million per year for criminal legal aid solicitors, and funding for a record number of sitting days in our Crown courts—5,000 more than those funded last year by the previous Government.

Today, I can announce up to £34 million per year in additional funding for criminal legal aid advocates, to recognise the vital support that they give to those navigating the system. I will also accept Sir Brian’s recommendation to match-fund a number of pupillages in criminal law, to open a career at the Criminal Bar to more young people from across society. I will also negotiate sitting days with the senior judiciary through the usual concordat process, aiming to give an unprecedented three-year certainty to the system. I am clear that sitting days in the Crown and magistrates courts must continue to rise, and my ambition is to continue breaking records by the end of this Parliament.

However, as Sir Brian has made clear, investment is not enough. The case load is projected to reach 100,000 cases by 2028, and without fundamental change it could keep rising, meaning that justice will be denied to more victims and trust in the system will collapse. To avoid that disaster, I will follow Sir Brian’s bold blueprint for change.

First, I will create new “swift courts” within the Crown court, with a judge alone deciding verdicts in triable either-way cases with a likely sentence of three years or less, as Sir Brian recommends. Sir Brian estimates that they will deliver justice at least 20% faster than jury trials. While juries’ deliberations remain confidential, judges provide reasoning for their verdicts in open court, so this will hardwire transparency into our new approach.

Sir Brian also proposes restricting defendants’ right to elect for jury trials—a practice not found widely in other common law jurisdictions, and let us be honest: it is a peculiar way to run a public service. Our world-leading judges should hear the most serious cases, and I agree that they and the magistracy should decide where a case is heard. That will prevent defendants from gaming the system, choosing whichever court they think gives the best chance of success and drawing out the process, hoping victims give up. I will limit appeals from the magistrates courts, so that they are only allowed on points of law, to prevent justice from being delayed further.

Alongside those changes, we will increase magistrates court sentencing powers to 18 months, so that they can take on a greater proportion of lower-level offending and relieve pressure on the Crown court. I will also take a power to extend that to two years, should it become necessary to relieve further pressure. When it comes to exceptionally technical and lengthy fraud and financial trials, judges will be able to sit without a jury where appropriate. While those cases are small in number, they place undue pressure on jurors to sit for months—a significant interference with their personal and professional lives.

These reforms are bold, but they are necessary. I am clear that jury trials will continue to be the cornerstone of the system for the most serious offences—those likely to receive a sentence of over three years and all indictable-only offences. Among others, that will include rape, murder, manslaughter, grievous bodily harm, robbery and arson with intent to kill.

I would like to clear up some misconceptions that colleagues unfamiliar with this area might hold. In England and Wales, magistrates have long done the vast majority of criminal cases. That was true in the Victorian era, right through to Winston Churchill’s time, and today magistrates hear about 90% of criminal cases. In fact, only 3% of trial cases in England and Wales will ever go before a jury, and almost three quarters of all trials going to the Crown court will continue to be heard by one under our changes.

Conservative Members talk about the Crown court as if it were an ancient institution. I should remind them that it was established in 1971—the year before I was born—to replace a patchwork of part-time courts unable to cope with a rising caseload. Parliament acted because the country needed a more efficient system that could command public confidence. We now face an emergency in the courts, and we must act. As Lord Chancellor, my responsibility is to ground reform in the rule of law and the right to a fair trial. We will ensure cases are dealt with at the right level, proportionate to their severity, and deliver the swifter justice victims deserve.

I am also clear that we must future-proof our approach. Technology is changing almost every aspect of our lives, and the courts can be no exception. That means we must modernise. We have asked Sir Brian to write a second report, focused on efficiency and how we can make much better use of technology to deliver the modern and effective courts the public rightly expect.

We will also continue to support victims, to make sure they have the confidence to come forward and see justice through to its conclusion. I announced this week that I will provide multi-year funding for victim support services, including specialist emotional and practical support for victims of domestic abuse and sexual violence, and increase budgets to reflect rising costs. That will give providers the certainty to plan for the next three years. It amounts to a total record investment in victim support services of £550 million—more than half a billion. I want those victims to stay the course.

Finally, we must also be honest that this is a problem that has taken years to build up, so it will take years to fix. The changes I am proposing will require legislation, which will take time to implement. Our investment will also need time to have an effect, but we are pulling every possible lever to move in a positive direction, and my ambition for the backlog to start coming down by the end of this Parliament remains. I commend this statement to the House.
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It's actually quite baffling how Lammy can make gaff after gaff and still have the balls to come out and say he wants to overhaul a large part of the British judicial system (obvious "no mandate" comment goes here).

Want to know an easy way to speed up jury trials? Stop giving judges such massive breaks during trials.
 
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