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Huh, well fuck me sideways, they're not complete assholes after all. Giving 1060 and 1080Ti users a little bit more longevity despite how much Nvidia hates Pascal cards? Couldn't have predicted that.
GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.
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Huh? Why would you say that? Pascal is alive and kicking.
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Nvidia said that it was a mistake because they made cards that were too good for their price, and ever since then you had the RTX rollercoaster where the value just wasn't there. The 30 series on launch was also really bad value, but with the 40 series coming around it became a very good value proposition, but on the second hand market. Now the 50 series gives the worst value in history and chances are that the 60 series will be even worse in that regard.
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That was due to the shortages caused by the home office and crypto boom and also new demanding games, like Cyberpunk 2077. It affected all GPUs, people were paying up bigly for nearly anything GPU. Old cards were sold way over their original price.
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the Rx 590 i bought in 2019 for like two hundred bucks was up to like 800 on eBay in 2021 or so. i remember people buying brand new PCS with like 1660s in them they paid 400 bucks for. it think it was the stimulus checks from covid plus everybody panic buying PCs for the lockdowns
it took like six years for GPU prices to get to a point where i could spend 200 bucks and get an all-around upgrade
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Well, exactly. I actually got me another laptop in '22 because that was the cheapest option to get a decent new PC back then, especially factoring in the much lower energy consumption. We pay like 40 cents a kWh, so that is absolutely a thing to consider as it can amount to even over a thousand bucks over the device's lifespan.
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i have likely the power hungriest system you can possibly buy before you start getting into mega sized server cpus and a conservative estimate is only a couple hundred bucks a year. but at nearly triple the cost of electricity that definitely makes a difference it would justify buying a whole new computer
Oh, Europe!
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If Nvidia really hated Pascal, they wouldn't have provided almost 10 years of support for it in terms of Game Ready Drivers. Considering that AMD sunset game ready drivers for Polaris/Vega after just six years and Nvidia could have simply followed suit without too much blowback, I'd say they can't hate Pascal too much.
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Micron Is Abandoning Consumer SSDs & RAM; Crucial Products Are Being Killed Off as the Company Shifts Everything Toward AI (archive)
They just said, "the money is greener on the other side, peace out".
I think we can start talking about $15/GB (RAM), e.g. $240 for a 16 GB DDR5 kit, if this gets much worse.
Moore's Law is Dead: Sam Altman’s Dirty DRAM Deal (archive) (ghost) (mega) (wayback)
^Something extra for tourists to read and consider.
They just said, "the money is greener on the other side, peace out".
I think we can start talking about $15/GB (RAM), e.g. $240 for a 16 GB DDR5 kit, if this gets much worse.
Moore's Law is Dead: Sam Altman’s Dirty DRAM Deal (archive) (ghost) (mega) (wayback)
^Something extra for tourists to read and consider.
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The future really is “you will own nothing and be happy”… Dell, HP, Lenovo etc are all going to transition into selling subscription services to access cloud PCs aren’t they?
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One of my old coworkers gave me a yeti nano that he bought in the hopes of doing some kind of podcast from his iphone and he couldn't get it to work. He was an idiot. But god damn it's kind of a piece of shit in everything except the microphone quality.
I assumed the headphone jack in my dogshit chinese monitor was going to be worse than the output on the mic. i also read online that you can disable the mic passthrough in the app. Not only can you not actually do that but also the DAC in my Sceptre Y32 is fuckin light years better than the DAC in that microphone. It's streamer bait, isn't it?
I assumed the headphone jack in my dogshit chinese monitor was going to be worse than the output on the mic. i also read online that you can disable the mic passthrough in the app. Not only can you not actually do that but also the DAC in my Sceptre Y32 is fuckin light years better than the DAC in that microphone. It's streamer bait, isn't it?
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Blue got bought out by Logitech so yeah, more or less. Serious streamers are still buying XLRs and actual audio interfaces so this is like a hobbyist sort of mic at best but there's other better USB ones out there for $99.
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I'll happily watch them scramble for pennies once the bubble bursts and they have an "oh shit" moment when the demand dwindles and they will be in complete chaos. Bunch of short sighted idiots is what they are. Nvidia will be fine since they have plenty of other non-AI products to fall back on, but Micron doesn't have that luxury, and they're going "fuck the general market we're betting all on red"? Idiots!
Blue got bought out by Corsair. It's all you need to know. Also worth mentioning HP bought out the HyperX brand so the headphones are no longer the same Takstar Pro 80's that built the legend of the Clouds, so if you're looking for bog standard headphones, DT770/DT990 or some other classic studio pick. If you really want a good USB mic, try the Rode NT-USB. If you're serious about audio, you get something like the Rode NT-1 or the Shure SM57 and a dedicated audio interface with phantom power.
In other news, the GOATs are finally being put to rest.
NVIDIA Deprecates GeForce GTX 900-Series "Maxwell" and GTX 10-Series "Pascal" With Linux 590 Driver
Some of my thoughts on this:-it's interesting that the Linux driver branch is ahead of Windows given how Nvidia was always known to treat Linux as a second class citizen, but I guess the AI boom shook things up that much.
-can't wait to see how many issues will still remain unfixed in the 590 drivers just so that I'll have to live with 566.36 forever and ever.
-then again, if you hang back on 566.36 those will still support everything up to the 40 series and you can mix and match your GPU's if you really want to.
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PCs are dirt cheap. You can get great work/shitposting PCs for less than $100. No more than 4-core Skylake-Comet Lake is needed (you could go older, but these are a performance baseline with well-supported iGPUs). Some people probably got their hands on Windows 10 PCs that were being thrown out for free. Slap Linux on it, use the massgrave hack to get another couple years of Win10 updates, or put Win11 on it. The world is awash with usable PCs that take a pretty long time to break.
Maybe we'll reach a point where you can't get a good amount of DDR4 RAM in your used PC because DDR4 prices are too damn high, but you can still find stuff like this i7-6700T with 16 GB RAM for $66 right now: https://www.ebay.com/itm/306641202223 (needs storage and power adapter). If that was $150 ($200 with the missing components added) from skyrocketing DDR4 prices or Taiwan being blown up, it wouldn't be the end of personal computing as we know it.
If you want modern PC gayming as a POOR, the window could be closing, but not that fast. I noted you could get a Steam Machine specs clone (slightly better Zen 4/RDNA3 parts, 8 GB VRAM) for $550 on Blacked Friday. If you want a good amount of VRAM, 9060 XT 16 GB was under MSRP briefly, now back up to $370, 5060 Ti 16 GB is around $420. If you're stuck at 4-8 GB, you can learn to cope, or pray to Jensen to force devs to adopt neural texture compression. There's lots of low-hanging fruit ripe for optimization.
AI is the service that tech giants really want you to subscribe to, to provide some actual revenue to keep this bubble from popping. (Reading attention check: Strix Halo activation word.) The same 16 GB consumer GPUs can generate images, but if you want to access better capabilities, you may have to shell out some cash.
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It will be $360 for a 16gb ddr5 kit, and the ai companies will get bailed out anyways, so this is a long term issue that isn't going away.
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Those things have never given me anything but trouble on the software/driver side of things. The hardware was good but the hassle hacking around with that crap trying to get it to record sound was a pig. Maybe it works seamlessly on Macs, or with people who just click "Okay" on everything that pops up. Seems more like their target market.
Also, fun fact: the RAM that I purchased for two-hundred and fifty bongland units of currency, is now around eight-hundred. And out of stock! Wow!
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590.26 has been out for some time. You will need to register for a dev account to download it.
Just look for a used PC if you need a RAM upgrade at this point. Will be easier for DDR4 than DDR5, though.
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Of course, but eventually other people will catch onto that trick and do the same. Even sellers will raise up their prices relative to the current market. There is also the need to consider the condition and quality of the ram too. Beggars can't be choosers I guess.
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It's quite amusing to see how whiny people who have never experienced hardship can get, if they don't get what they want because the market won't deliver anymore.
Like a breadline in a Soviet Bloc country, but for RAM sticks and storage drives.