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particular anymore. Um
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because it became very clear that
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everything is about her 100% all of the
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um, I have not spoken her spoken to her
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since January 6th. And yes, that January
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6th.
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date sticks in my brain. I mean, you can
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have problems with whoever you want to
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have problems with. That doesn't bother
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me at all. Um, it's not like I 100%
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endorse uh everything that uh people who
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I am friends with or friendly with um
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whatever. You know, it's not like I
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endorse everything they ever do. Like I
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am friendly with Kayn. I would not
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consider her a friend by any stretch of
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the imagination. Um I unfriended her on
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Facebook. Um,
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and I had even blocked her for a while
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because I didn't trust her. I thought um
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she was uh leaking information about me.
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because I kept hearing things about me
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online that uh were private uh like
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should not have been accessible to
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anybody who wasn't on my friends list.
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account. uh on Twitter because even when
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it was private, information was still
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getting out and I couldn't figure out
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who was doing it. What a complete
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like they're just hypocritical jerks.
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they they wanted all of these things
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from
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Doug,
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but like they don't think that they need
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to do anything for anyone else. They
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just want things from other people and
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don't think that they should ever have
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to give anything back. And
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that annoys the [ __ ] out of me. And that
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just take take with you. Yeah. I think
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with Marsha, Marca was was in a lot of
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ways a lot like Lewis in in that hyper
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loyalty
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because of that um plus like you know
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she was she had such severe anxiety that
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small things seemed so major to her that
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to lie. Um
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but I I think that she just didn't
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recall things
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uh the way they really happened. So I
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was like I mean
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but that like that's not true, you know?
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calm her down, I would be like,
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out there, so it's okay. Just, you know,
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dedication that she had to Eric. you
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I did what I thought was best
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uh what I thought was best was not
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always the best thing um because of the
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environment I was in. But um I made the
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best judgment that I could and because
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of that I don't you know I I feel bad
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for some of the decisions I made but I
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be a jerk or to, you know, uh like like
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Mantis and uh the Jorio situation. Um,
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had been assaulted because she knew that
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the backlash against her from his fans
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she wanted that to be private. And so,
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police involved and she said no. And so
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know somebody who was a crisis
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counselor. Um would you like to talk to
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them? And she said yes. And uh so I
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hooked her up with Iron Liz and I made
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that connection for her and then I said,
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unless you want to talk about this
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of me and that is how I we moved forward
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with it. You know, as soon as she went
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public with it, I I stood behind her and
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I said, "Yes, this is what happened.
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anyone about it before is because she
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didn't want that out there. And
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uh you know, uh hiding stuff or
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whatever, but it's not my place to out
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somebody else's sexual assault and their
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trauma. So,
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knew that was like a an actual issue
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with Jew Warriio was, uh, that he he did
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this is sort of like an inappropriate
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of herself wearing a naughty nurse's
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costume and all that. And I was like,
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mentally at best and I was like
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that I contacted her directly cuz I knew
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who she was and I was like
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to it on Tumblr. Um, and I was like, uh,
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if you want to step forward and make a
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complaint to the company, uh, I am,
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uh, more than willing to escalate this
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for you. And both, uh, publicly and
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with um this person who won't give their
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uh has said has has given these
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allegations against Jorio because the
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like there's nothing to move forward
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across as cancel culture and so I like I
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was really stuck there. Um
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the dock I was like
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complaint legally because there was no
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legal complaint to be made. So it
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that situation really frustrates
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um I am glad that Screaming Mantis did
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complain to the company about it when I
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asked her if she wanted to because um
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excuse me, because uh that meant we uh
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ended our association with him right
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away. And um then when uh she went
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public, a lot of uh like
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other women were able to come forward
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and say uh this also happened to me and
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telling people about it or telling me I
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I don't know if they ever went public or
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if they just told me because, you know,
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I was the only person associated
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uh in their brains with Channel Awesome
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who still cared even though I didn't
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work for the company anymore and there
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wasn't anything I could do. Um, and
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in their eyes it was like
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being able to tell somebody who worked
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for who had worked for the company was
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like a release in some way. And so,
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you know, I'm glad at least that I could
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do that for them. To make it totally
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clear, I am not friends with Allison at
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all. anymore.
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saying anything about her that is going
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to offend me. Um,
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like she and I had a falling out like 4
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years ago and uh like I don't really
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care about her but she is really bitter
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about it. uh to me. So,
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out on that or on her childish uh
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methods of non-communication
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and her passive aggressive behavior
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involved in it and they uh did not give
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well, there were two things that I was
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upset with Channel Awesome about, one
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was that it took three weeks. Uh,
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was just sort of like, "Hey guys, why is
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upset with them about is that
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by posting the chat log, they outed the
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victim.
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they knew who the contributor was and
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then people were able to piece it
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together. And the thing is, if we had
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gone out and told people, "Oh, by the
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way, uh
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Justin's a predator.
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there would have been a lot of
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backlash." And um that's exactly what
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the victim didn't want. Like she was
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afraid she would get death threats and
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things like that because you know people
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fans of Channel Awesome get crazy. You
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probably have a better understanding of
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like why we we didn't tell anybody. And
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I don't think um the initial not telling
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of people um is any more Channel
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Awesome's fault than it is my fault. our
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our uh displays of grief were done um
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with the consent of the victim because
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it was like if we
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if we ignore the fact that he died,
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people are going to wonder what the [ __ ]
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is up, right?
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So, we have to do something. But
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um
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I think
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people never realized that everything I
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brought up aside from like donating to
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uh suicide prevention hotline um which
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is actually just a good thing to do. Um,
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not nothing Justin related ever actually
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came to fruition from me.
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>> Like
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the the Jew Warriio hats never happened
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even though I got the patches. the um
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Con Bravo had me set up that um
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memorial for him and I didn't even go
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like I went as far as buying a ticket to
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Canada and then I didn't go.
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So, um,
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uh, there was a group that wanted to do
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the, uh, you can play this awards, and
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they asked me to be on the board of it,
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and I, uh, stuck around long enough to
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make make sure that got shot down. And
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it's like
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even
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um people don't know this, but even like
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Iron Liz talking about like a friend
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came to her and and was like, "Uh, hey,
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I have somebody who uh I'd like you to
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talk with, uh who was a
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a sexual assault victim."
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That was me.
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I asked Liz to talk to the victim
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because I knew that she had that crisis
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center training. My ex worked for Con
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Bravo and
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he had told me that he went to the
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president of Con Bravo and he was told
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that because
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uh contracts had already been signed
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that nothing could be done and Justin
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was an invited guest and so he was still
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going to be there
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and Um,
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this was obviously like in that year
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after the the rape but before Justin
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killed himself and
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I was just I was absolutely astounded. I
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was like, "What the fuck?"
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Okay, I guess I tried to do
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all of the best things to keep her safe
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and other people safe by trying to keep
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him away from other conventions. But
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um
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you know I could only do what I could do
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without
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you know uh putting the victim at risk.
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Um
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or
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you know being accused of slander if the
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victim then said well it didn't it never
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happened. Um you know in order to
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protect herself. Um, so
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yeah,
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it was a weird, awful, bad time. So, I
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don't know if you uh ever knew this, but
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I used to date uh Julian uh Sad Panda.
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And um
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that is part of how team Margan came to
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be. Um, and
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while I was dating Julian, um, I went to
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Magfest one year and, uh, Chaos D1 was
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there
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and,
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um, Chaos D1 is a
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uh,
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known philanderer.
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He cheats on his wife all the [ __ ]
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time. Anyway, so uh
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several of us are hanging out in my room
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one night and uh he wants to feel my
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breasts and I'm
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very uh
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like I don't care.
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like I did not view it in any way as
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like a sexual thing.
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Um, so I was like, "Whatever." Cuz like
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we're in front of people and
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you know, it's just like a weird thing
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to ask someone and I was like, "Uh,
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yeah, I I guess,
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you know, it's like it it was clear that
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I was like in no way interested or
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turned on. It was just like a
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what? Uh, sure. Uh, uh, do you want to
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touch my elbows later, too? Kind of
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thing.
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Um, and,
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uh, that's that's not actually the part
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why I, uh, have issues with, uh, chaos
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D1.
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Um but later a tickle fight started and
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he
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stuck his hand between my legs
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and
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um
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yeah touched me uh you know where
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and
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I
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immedi immediately pushed him away,
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pushed his hand away, sat up, and I was
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like,
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"Everybody get out now."
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And um
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yeah, that's why I don't like him. like
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he knew I was dating Julian
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and he did that and like he was already
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cheating on his wife with one of the
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girls in the room
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and I I'm friends with his wife. So I
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was like what the [ __ ]
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Um and I've been uncomfortable with him
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ever since.
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And what really bothers me is that
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I told people about this after it
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happened and
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um
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like well she Matt was at that magfest
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and
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um
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he I guess forgot or I wasn't I wasn't
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clear but because on the last day of
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that we were all there. We were getting
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ready to like leave to say goodbye, go
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to the airport or whatever. And
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John, who is KSD1, asks if he can come
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to my room.
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And I was like,
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uh, why? He says, I have something I
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want to give you. And I was like, uh,
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oh, okay. He's like, yeah, I have a I
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have a gift for you. And I was like,
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okay. And so I immediately m messaged
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Matt and I was like, "Can you get here
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as soon as possible because
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um
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John is coming to my room and I don't
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want to be alone with him because I had
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previously told him in the stairwell
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in a stairwell what had happened." But
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um it was like during a crazy night of
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partying and I think he just like forgot
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that I told him or
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got it confused with something else
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because that magfest I also had to
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accompany somebody to the emergency room
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cuz they got incredibly sick. Um, and I
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missed almost a whole day of Magfest
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uh because of it. And it really sucked.
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When we were all in the room together,
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they had ideas of like group sex and
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nobody communicated this to me and just
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decided to assault me.
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But Matt always has my back. And
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Matt
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un like uninvited him to his wedding.
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Even though I ended up not being able to
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go, he uninvited him to his wedding and
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everything. Um, and I was very thankful
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for that. And I had told
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um
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both Failen and
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uh Julian and I know Julian never liked
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him in the first place. So like Failen
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and Allison still talk to him. And
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that's another one of the big reasons
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that I I don't talk to her anymore.
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I'm like, this is a real thing that
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really happened to me and
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like you just hang out and talk to this
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guy.
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Like
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my roommate came back to the room
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shortly after it happened and she saw
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the look on my face
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um and she was like, "Oh my god, what
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happened?
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um in a Spanish accent because she's
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Puerto Rican.
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But yeah, um and and she's hated him
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ever since. Um so
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yeah, that's the that's the story about
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uh Chaos D1 and why I have uh no pity
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for him whatsoever. And he can die in a
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fire. First of all, I think Nettles is a
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jerk and he's really only there to uh
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tear people down. Uh supposedly he
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thinks some people have real grievances,
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but um
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he's really cherrypicked who he thinks
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those people are. Um and it's only like
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two people or something. So, one of the
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things they wanted me to do when they
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first brought me on was to have me uh go
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through the books because they were
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running everything through QuickBooks.
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And uh part of the problem was they did
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not bring back receipts from Kickassia.
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None. They had like no receipts. And I
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was like, how am I supposed to verify
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if any of these charges are correct or
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valid or like I can't balance the books
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if you if you guys don't get receipts.
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And I tried explaining that to Michad
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and he just he wouldn't listen.
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And um
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you know, in the meantime,
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Ellis is telling me like what a great
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worker I'm going to be and all of that.
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And you know, then I find out that he
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it's just him buttering me up because he
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wants me to date him, you know, and he
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comes over to my house one night and
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he's like holding my hand and stroking
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it and talking to me. And I was just
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like, "All right, but like you have a
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wife." And then like as I start going
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through the books more and more, I start
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seeing all of these
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charges where it's like
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every time Ellis goes somewhere, he buys
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himself a meal, he gets gas.
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Even if it's just like
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driving to Rob and Doug's house or cuz
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this is, you know, way before we had a
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studio. So,
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we would just meet up at each other's
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houses.
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So, if it's, you know, meeting at Rob
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and Doug's house, or if it's meeting at
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Mich's house or if it's coming over to
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my house, he would get gas, he would
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have a meal. Um, and then I would I
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started seeing like all these Walmart
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charges and it would be like 15 c cans
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of cat food or something like that and I
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was like, "What the [ __ ] There's no way
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that this is a valid charge. Like, what
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am I supposed to do with this?"
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So like he's
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essentially embezzling money from the
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company through his corporate card by
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just like charging anything in the world
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he wants to it and
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ash's just letting it happen. Finally, I
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get
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pulled aside for not doing my job on the
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books. And I'm like, "Listen, here's
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what's going on with the books if you
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guys want to talk about the [ __ ]
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books."
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Um,
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and I was like, what he's really mad
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about is, um, cuz you know, now this is
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Alice calling me out about the books. um
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why haven't I been doing my job? Um
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because I I turned him down. And
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um
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he's like, "It it's not your business
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what I spend money on." And I'm like,
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"It is my business what you spend money
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on because this is what you've asked me
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to do."
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It was so It was so dumb. And no, I I
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wouldn't trust Mars Girl as far as I
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could throw her. I'm pretty sure that
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she was um leaking stuff from my Twitter
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account at one point. Um my old Twitter
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account. And so like that was part of
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what caused me to shut down my old
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Twitter account because I could not
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figure out who was on my friends list
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and still um screenshotting old tweets.
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And I knew that Mars Girl had a history
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of being like she had an account on Kiwi
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Farms and she had been like she had had
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an account on something awful and like
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she's always been in touch with trolls
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and so I was like, you know what, I just
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I don't trust her. But yeah, I like I
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watched I think the first couple videos
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in in Nettle's series and he was
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basically like uh there's only couple
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couple people in this document who I
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think have real legitimate grievances
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and um you know it was like fool
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fantastic and a couple of other people
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but even then he's not very sympathetic
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to them. So, um,
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yeah, he just, uh,
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he just seems to be in it to like tear
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everyone down. I mean, like I said about
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my falling out with Allison, it's
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they care about their own mental health
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and they don't really care about anyone
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else, about how they're doing or
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anything. It's about, you know, what can
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you do for me? But with Kayn, I just
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feel like
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she just likes to be involved in drama,
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whatever that drama is. I have no idea
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if Nettles has done a video on me yet or
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not. Um,
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cuz I don't keep up with that stuff.
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So, yeah. I don't know. uh he he may
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have done
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uh
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but I I would guess probably not because
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I haven't gotten like an influx of
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trolls so I already know I did the right
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thing so [ __ ] it. Um if he's going to
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talk about the other stuff then you know
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I'm more than more than happy to chime
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chime in about those things. Um, those
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were funny stories that I told on
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Twitter.
