Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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Greer v. Moon 2:20-cv-00647 — District Court, D. Utah

  • Docket No.
    2:20-cv-00647
  • Court
    District Court, D. Utah
  • Filed
    Sep 15, 2020
  • Terminated
    Apr 22, 2024
  • Nature of Suit
    820 Copyright
  • Cause
    17:0501 Copyright Infringement
  • Jurisdiction
    Federal Question
  • Jury Demand
    None
  • Last Filing
    Aug 6, 2024

Parties (4)

Parties
Joshua Moon, Kiwi Farms, Lolcow, LLC, Russell G. Greer

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 30)

# Date Description Filing
— Aug 6, 2024 Case no longer referred to Magistrate Judge Jared C. Bennett. (kpf)
113 May 15, 2024 ORDER of USCA Supreme Court Circuit as to 45 Notice of Appeal, filed by Russell G. Greer. Supreme Court order dated 05/13/2024 denying certiorari. (jrj) (Entered: 05/16/2024)
112 Apr 28, 2024 NOTICE OF TRANSMITTAL that case has been transferred to Northern District of Floridia via electronic given case number 3:24-cv-00122-MCR-ZCB. (nl) (Entered: 04/29/2024)
111 Apr 25, 2024 Report on the Final Decision of an action mailed to the Register of Copyrights Office. (kpf) (Additional attachment(s) added on 4/26/2024: # 1 Copy Right Form) (kpf). (Entered: 04/26/2024) PDF
110 Apr 25, 2024 NOTICE OF TRANSMITTAL that case has been transferred to Northern District of Florida. (kpf) (Entered: 04/26/2024)
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Greer v. Moon 21-4128 — Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit

  • Docket No.
    21-4128
  • Court
    Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit
  • Filed
    Oct 26, 2021
  • Nature of Suit
    3820 Copyright
  • Last Filing
    Oct 15, 2023

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 11)

# Date Description Filing
10010936535 Oct 15, 2023 Case termination for opinion
10010794067 Jan 5, 2023 [10967591] Calendar Acknowledgment Form filed by Joshua Moon. Served on 01/06/2023. Manner of Service: email. [21-4128] GGS [Entered: 01/06/2023 12:15 PM]
10010791785 Jan 2, 2023 [10966429] Order filed by Clerk of the Court denying Appellees’ Motion to Waive Oral Argument. The oral argument set for January 18, 2023 in Denver, Colorado remains set as scheduled. Counsel for Defendants - Appellees shall file a calendar acknowledgment form by January 5, 2023. Served on 01/03/2023. [21-4128] [Entered: 01/03/2023 10:16 AM]
10010776728 Dec 1, 2022 [10959168] Response filed by Russell G. Greer to Appellees' Motion to Waive Oral Argument. Served on 12/02/2022. Manner of Service: email. This pleading complies with all required privacy and virus certifications: Yes. [21-4128] AG [Entered: 12/02/2022 12:34 AM]
10010776140 Nov 30, 2022 [10958830] Calendar Acknowledgment Form filed by Russell G. Greer. Served on 12/01/2022. Manner of Service: email. [21-4128] GWK [Entered: 12/01/2022 07:49 AM]
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GREER v. MOON 3:24-cv-00122 — District Court, N.D. Florida

  • Docket No.
    3:24-cv-00122
  • Court
    District Court, N.D. Florida
  • Filed
    Mar 19, 2024
  • Terminated
    Jun 10, 2024
  • Nature of Suit
    820 Copyright
  • Cause
    17:501 Copyright Infringement
  • Jurisdiction
    Federal Question
  • Jury Demand
    None
  • Last Filing
    Oct 16, 2024

Parties (4)

Parties
RUSSELL G GREER, JOSHUA MOON, LOLCOW LLC, KIWI FARMS

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 30)

# Date Description Filing
— Oct 16, 2024 ACTION REQUIRED BY MAGISTRATE JUDGE: Chambers of MAGISTRATE JUDGE ZACHARY C BOLITHO notified that action is needed Re: 132 Mail Returned. (mah)
132 Oct 15, 2024 Mail Returned as Undeliverable. Mail sent to Russell G. Greer re: 128 ORDER. Order mailed to 1155 S. Twain Avenue, Suite 108420, Las Vegas, NV 89169. (Attachment: #1 Notice of Returned Mail). (mah) (Entered: 10/17/2024) PDF
131 Jul 10, 2024 AO 121 Copyright Case Notification of order entered. Copy sent to the Register of Copyrights. U.S. Copyright Office, 101 Independence Ave. S.E., Washington, D.C. 20559-6000. (adf) (Entered: 07/11/2024) PDF
130 Jun 10, 2024 ACKNOWLEDGMENT re 129 Case Transferred Out to Another District. Case transferred from Florida Northern has been opened in District of Utah as case 2:24cv00421, filed 06/11/2024. (jfj) (Entered: 06/13/2024) PDF
129 Jun 10, 2024 Interdistrict Transfer to the District of Utah. (jfj) (Entered: 06/11/2024)
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Greer v. Moon 2:24-cv-00421 — District Court, D. Utah

  • Docket No.
    2:24-cv-00421
  • Court
    District Court, D. Utah
  • Filed
    Jun 10, 2024
  • Nature of Suit
    820 Copyright
  • Cause
    17:0501 Copyright Infringement
  • Jurisdiction
    Federal Question
  • Jury Demand
    Plaintiff
  • Last Filing
    Apr 27, 2026

Parties (4)

Parties
Russell G. Greer, Lolcow LLC, Kiwi Farms, Joshua Moon

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 50)

# Date Description Filing
473 Apr 27, 2026 RESPONSE re 468 Objection to Magistrate Judge Decision 460 to District Court filed by Russell G. Greer. (alf) (Entered: 04/28/2026) PDF
472 Apr 14, 2026 MEMORANDUM in Opposition re 465 Response re 462 Order filed by Russell G. Greer. (alf) (Entered: 04/15/2026) PDF
471 Apr 14, 2026 MEMORANDUM in Opposition re 469 MOTION to Strike 464 Answer to Counterclaim and Memorandum in Support; MOTION to deem factual allegations admitted filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (alf) (Entered: 04/15/2026) PDF
470 Apr 13, 2026 Modification of Docket re 469 MOTION to Strike : Error: The document is requesting two possible reliefs. An event should be chosen for each relief filer is requesting, including motions in the alternative. Correction: MOTION to deem factual allegations admitted added to the entry. No further action is needed. (alf) (Entered: 04/15/2026)
469 Apr 13, 2026 MOTION to Strike 464 Answer to Counterclaim and alternative MOTION to deem factual allegations admitted and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants Lolcow LLC, Joshua Moon, Counter Claimants Lolcow LLC, Joshua Moon. Motions referred to Jared C. Bennett.(Hardin, Matthew). Added MOTION on 4/15/2026 (alf). (Entered: 04/14/2026) PDF
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I particularly like this page:
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Russ, you utter mong, how do you think the court would theoretically be able to decide issues around fair use if the Defense isn't allowed to discuss said issues with people on the record? The legal term for those people is "witnesses," and collecting a list of those people is definitely something a lawyer would want to do now while discovery is stayed. IANAL, but I can still think of several ways in which those "irrelevant" issues would actually be relevant to claims of fair use.
 
Accept Only Substitutes said:
I particularly like this page:
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Russ, you utter mong, how do you think the court would theoretically be able to decide issues around fair use if the Defense isn't allowed to discuss said issues with people on the record? The legal term for those people is "witnesses," and collecting a list of those people is definitely something a lawyer would want to do now while discovery is stayed. IANAL, but I can still think of several ways in which those "irrelevant" issues would actually be relevant to claims of fair use.
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I like that Greee cites Chapter 5. Sadly, the court has never seen Chapter 5 to understand what the citation means. Maybe Green should file the rest of the book so he can cite it.
 
Useful_Mistake said:
The KF link is a bit weird, since our .st did not exist at the time the lawsuit started
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I think that might be Word autolinking, but it should be Kiwifarms.net or just KiwiFarms, A Website™.

Russ seems completely incapable to realize that a court case is often an onion, with layers (like ogres) - and Hardin is frying all the layers so that the case is salvageable even if ogre. Egads this got away from me.

Anyone who has read cases knows you have "it didn't happen; if it did happen it wasn't my fault, if it did happen and was my fault I had good reasons" etc.

Russ is still so set on settlement as the outcome that he doesn't realize all the various possible outcomes of the case, many of which would hinge on evidence provided by witnesses about the damage or fair use of the content.
 
FamicomGorby said:
Since Hardin is an actual lawyer that knows what he's doing and Greer is a bamboon, I'd lean towards Greer being wrong. The discovery stay just means they can't subpeona witnesses, there's nothing that prevents them from voluntarily talking to Hardin or Hardin letting Greer know that he will subpeona them when discovery resumes.
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And once again Hardin is REQUIRED to inform Greer of them as soon as he believes they may be relevant. He must disclose them to the drooling shit monkey sooner rather than later. To not do so is sanctionable and can be case ending.
 
The Second Numidium said:
When relevance has been established already
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Indeed. The Judge himself explained the relevance to him.
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Ultimately, Congress has determined that if IFP petition contains false statements then a court has no jurisdiction to hear the case. As the Judge says, because he filed IFP, claims about his finances are relevant to question of jurisdiction - if Greer lied, the Judge literally has no authority to make any judgement granting relief to Russ.
 
RodgerDodger said:
And once again Hardin is REQUIRED to inform Greer of them as soon as he believes they may be relevant. He must disclose them to the drooling shit monkey sooner rather than later. To not do so is sanctionable and can be case ending.
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so much trouble would be adverted if people actually knew how trials worked, you know, the kind of training paralegals would get

phoenix wright and tv law shows have fucked up society and the court system; it'd be fun to hear a judge rant about it all
 
RodgerDodger said:
And once again Hardin is REQUIRED to inform Greer of them as soon as he believes they may be relevant. He must disclose them to the drooling shit monkey sooner rather than later. To not do so is sanctionable and can be case ending.
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It’s a great strategy. Get the notifications stricken, now Hardin is in violation since the court does not acknowledge any notification occurred, sanction Hardin, end case in favor of Greer.
 
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With any justice in the world, Hardin will be granted the unusual but justified punishment of forcing Greer to write "Witness disclosure is not discovery." 500 times on a chalkboard.
It does not compel testimony, documents, or evidence, and it does not invoke any coercive power of the court. No subpoena has issued, no discovery device has been used, and no third party has been compelled to do anything.
 
Apteryx Owenii said:
I've said before that it looks like everyone is playing a game of appearing to be highly motivated to get to trial while avoiding the reality of such a thing (for different reasons)- and any talk of another venue swap would fall into that model, without getting any more specific for fear of it getting stuck into some AI prompt.
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Defendants aren't. They're highly motivated to have the case dismissed outright and not have a trial at all.
 
reptile baht spaniard rid said:
phoenix wright and tv law shows have fucked up society and the court system; it'd be fun to hear a judge rant about it all
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Josh has expounded on courts and lawyers on MATI. I'd love to hear him ranting about it more. Hardin would make a good guest for that and also to talk about the ol' switcheroo in Republican Virginia.
 
m1ddl3m4rch said:
Josh has expounded on courts and lawyers on MATI. I'd love to hear him ranting about it more. Hardin would make a good guest for that and also to talk about the ol' switcheroo in Republican Virginia.
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It's not wise to talk about an ongoing case you are involved with. I'm imagining we'll get a solid rant about this case once it's done. Maybe even a special episode with the Hardship. At this rate, I'm not holding my breath that it will be this year.
 
Russell's response for Hardin's stay will be interesting, as he often argues the same in reverse against the defence. Will he concur or argue?
 
Sneed Force One said:
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With any justice in the world, Hardin will be granted the unusual but justified punishment of forcing Greer to write "Witness disclosure is not discovery." 500 times on a chalkboard.
It does not compel testimony, documents, or evidence, and it does not invoke any coercive power of the court. No subpoena has issued, no discovery device has been used, and no third party has been compelled to do anything.
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I'm pretty sure that if Russ's "stay on discovery" was granted the way he desired it, you'd have a very strong case that it harshly violates Hardin's (and by extension Null's) first amendment rights.

A Stay on Discovery means a Nigger can't Talk to Nobody is certainly a thing that could be decided, I guess. Courts have done worse.
Yandex Captcha Solver said:
It's not wise to talk about an ongoing case you are involved with. I'm imagining we'll get a solid rant about this case once it's done. Maybe even a special episode with the Hardship. At this rate, I'm not holding my breath that it will be this year.
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It's probably for the best that this stuff stay second hand from @Potentially Criminal and others, because even if Russ is defeated and sent to the vexatious zone, there may be others and no need to give them background ammo.
 
Mr. Hardin has offered the Court another reasonable off-ramp. Lets see if they continue to accelerate past it.
 
reptile baht spaniard rid said:
A Stay on Discovery means a Nigger can't Talk to Nobody is certainly a thing that could be decided, I guess. Courts have done worse.
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A stay on discovery has no relevance whatsoever to nonjudicial investigation, even including stuff as potentially invasive as hiring private investigators to stalk the adverse party 24/7. There might be remedies for severely over the line behavior, but in general, investigators can do things that would get a normal person arrested.
 
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