Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

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Greer v. Moon 2:20-cv-00647 — District Court, D. Utah

  • Docket No.
    2:20-cv-00647
  • Court
    District Court, D. Utah
  • Filed
    Sep 15, 2020
  • Terminated
    Apr 22, 2024
  • Nature of Suit
    820 Copyright
  • Cause
    17:0501 Copyright Infringement
  • Jurisdiction
    Federal Question
  • Jury Demand
    None
  • Last Filing
    Aug 6, 2024

Parties (4)

Parties
Joshua Moon, Kiwi Farms, Lolcow, LLC, Russell G. Greer

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 30)

# Date Description Filing
— Aug 6, 2024 Case no longer referred to Magistrate Judge Jared C. Bennett. (kpf)
113 May 15, 2024 ORDER of USCA Supreme Court Circuit as to 45 Notice of Appeal, filed by Russell G. Greer. Supreme Court order dated 05/13/2024 denying certiorari. (jrj) (Entered: 05/16/2024)
112 Apr 28, 2024 NOTICE OF TRANSMITTAL that case has been transferred to Northern District of Floridia via electronic given case number 3:24-cv-00122-MCR-ZCB. (nl) (Entered: 04/29/2024)
111 Apr 25, 2024 Report on the Final Decision of an action mailed to the Register of Copyrights Office. (kpf) (Additional attachment(s) added on 4/26/2024: # 1 Copy Right Form) (kpf). (Entered: 04/26/2024) PDF
110 Apr 25, 2024 NOTICE OF TRANSMITTAL that case has been transferred to Northern District of Florida. (kpf) (Entered: 04/26/2024)
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Greer v. Moon 21-4128 — Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit

  • Docket No.
    21-4128
  • Court
    Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit
  • Filed
    Oct 26, 2021
  • Nature of Suit
    3820 Copyright
  • Last Filing
    Oct 15, 2023

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 11)

# Date Description Filing
10010936535 Oct 15, 2023 Case termination for opinion
10010794067 Jan 5, 2023 [10967591] Calendar Acknowledgment Form filed by Joshua Moon. Served on 01/06/2023. Manner of Service: email. [21-4128] GGS [Entered: 01/06/2023 12:15 PM]
10010791785 Jan 2, 2023 [10966429] Order filed by Clerk of the Court denying Appellees’ Motion to Waive Oral Argument. The oral argument set for January 18, 2023 in Denver, Colorado remains set as scheduled. Counsel for Defendants - Appellees shall file a calendar acknowledgment form by January 5, 2023. Served on 01/03/2023. [21-4128] [Entered: 01/03/2023 10:16 AM]
10010776728 Dec 1, 2022 [10959168] Response filed by Russell G. Greer to Appellees' Motion to Waive Oral Argument. Served on 12/02/2022. Manner of Service: email. This pleading complies with all required privacy and virus certifications: Yes. [21-4128] AG [Entered: 12/02/2022 12:34 AM]
10010776140 Nov 30, 2022 [10958830] Calendar Acknowledgment Form filed by Russell G. Greer. Served on 12/01/2022. Manner of Service: email. [21-4128] GWK [Entered: 12/01/2022 07:49 AM]
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GREER v. MOON 3:24-cv-00122 — District Court, N.D. Florida

  • Docket No.
    3:24-cv-00122
  • Court
    District Court, N.D. Florida
  • Filed
    Mar 19, 2024
  • Terminated
    Jun 10, 2024
  • Nature of Suit
    820 Copyright
  • Cause
    17:501 Copyright Infringement
  • Jurisdiction
    Federal Question
  • Jury Demand
    None
  • Last Filing
    Oct 16, 2024

Parties (4)

Parties
RUSSELL G GREER, JOSHUA MOON, LOLCOW LLC, KIWI FARMS

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 30)

# Date Description Filing
— Oct 16, 2024 ACTION REQUIRED BY MAGISTRATE JUDGE: Chambers of MAGISTRATE JUDGE ZACHARY C BOLITHO notified that action is needed Re: 132 Mail Returned. (mah)
132 Oct 15, 2024 Mail Returned as Undeliverable. Mail sent to Russell G. Greer re: 128 ORDER. Order mailed to 1155 S. Twain Avenue, Suite 108420, Las Vegas, NV 89169. (Attachment: #1 Notice of Returned Mail). (mah) (Entered: 10/17/2024) PDF
131 Jul 10, 2024 AO 121 Copyright Case Notification of order entered. Copy sent to the Register of Copyrights. U.S. Copyright Office, 101 Independence Ave. S.E., Washington, D.C. 20559-6000. (adf) (Entered: 07/11/2024) PDF
130 Jun 10, 2024 ACKNOWLEDGMENT re 129 Case Transferred Out to Another District. Case transferred from Florida Northern has been opened in District of Utah as case 2:24cv00421, filed 06/11/2024. (jfj) (Entered: 06/13/2024) PDF
129 Jun 10, 2024 Interdistrict Transfer to the District of Utah. (jfj) (Entered: 06/11/2024)
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Greer v. Moon 2:24-cv-00421 — District Court, D. Utah

  • Docket No.
    2:24-cv-00421
  • Court
    District Court, D. Utah
  • Filed
    Jun 10, 2024
  • Nature of Suit
    820 Copyright
  • Cause
    17:0501 Copyright Infringement
  • Jurisdiction
    Federal Question
  • Jury Demand
    Plaintiff
  • Last Filing
    Apr 27, 2026

Parties (4)

Parties
Russell G. Greer, Lolcow LLC, Kiwi Farms, Joshua Moon

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 50)

# Date Description Filing
473 Apr 27, 2026 RESPONSE re 468 Objection to Magistrate Judge Decision 460 to District Court filed by Russell G. Greer. (alf) (Entered: 04/28/2026) PDF
472 Apr 14, 2026 MEMORANDUM in Opposition re 465 Response re 462 Order filed by Russell G. Greer. (alf) (Entered: 04/15/2026) PDF
471 Apr 14, 2026 MEMORANDUM in Opposition re 469 MOTION to Strike 464 Answer to Counterclaim and Memorandum in Support; MOTION to deem factual allegations admitted filed by Plaintiff Russell G. Greer. (alf) (Entered: 04/15/2026) PDF
470 Apr 13, 2026 Modification of Docket re 469 MOTION to Strike : Error: The document is requesting two possible reliefs. An event should be chosen for each relief filer is requesting, including motions in the alternative. Correction: MOTION to deem factual allegations admitted added to the entry. No further action is needed. (alf) (Entered: 04/15/2026)
469 Apr 13, 2026 MOTION to Strike 464 Answer to Counterclaim and alternative MOTION to deem factual allegations admitted and Memorandum in Support filed by Defendants Lolcow LLC, Joshua Moon, Counter Claimants Lolcow LLC, Joshua Moon. Motions referred to Jared C. Bennett.(Hardin, Matthew). Added MOTION on 4/15/2026 (alf). (Entered: 04/14/2026) PDF
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Irene and 22 others said:
Is there any reason for Null not to let it remain in that state as the defendant in the case outside of wanting to be out of it? There's no prejudice against the defense for not trying to move the case forward and Greer seems incapable of doing that.
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I can't remember the exact details, so somebody feel free to fill in the blanks for me, but here is the quick recap.

Back when Skordas was Null's lawyer during the appeal and Greee got free lawyers, Skordas got a bit lazy at the end of his tenure and didn't oppose things he had the right as the defendant to oppose, expecting to do so at a later time if truly needed.

However, the judges at the time basically said "You didn't object to the plaintiff's motion within 3 seconds of them filing it, so we are going to take that as you waiving your right to object, lol." This led to a fair amount of bullshit that occurred in that case.

Therefore, Null's order to Hardin is "Fight everything, as long as it is within the rules of the court. Doesn't matter how petty the matter is, file the motion." Since us Kiwis have proven willing and eager to keep the legal warchest loaded, Null is going to keep to this strategy.
 
obsdj said:
Let's be clear, Greer did not stipulate in order to spare his family from being deposed out of any concern or care for their feelings, convenience, or privacy. He doesn't want them being deposed because of the embarrassment that would result to him personally. Whether their depositions/testimony have any relevance to the copyright issue doesn't matter; the fact is they would have to answer questions under penalty of perjury about him, and that would be humiliating for him.
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I'm not so sure he cares about his reputation that much. He lives off of claiming he is not whole because of his disability. He thrives on that. His concern is witnesses not backing his preferred narrative. It's like his dead witness: he told the court what that guy would say. It was all made up. He doesn't care if they ridicule him as long as they don't show him lying. He starts to freak out when people directly contradict his narrative. I think that's worse than just an ego because it shows he understands that he is lying. He excludes narratives that contradict the main character story he writes. He is perfectly fine with people thinking he can't have normal relationships with women and needs prostitution to have a fulfilled life. But he was terrified that his dad or brother would not back up his account that he discussed KF with them. He was livid when Hardin approached the Winnemucans with the truth. He wants to cut out everyone not telling his preferred narrative. Which is everyone except him.
 
.iota. said:
technically, he is allowed to present evidence. the problem with doing so is twofold, though. first, greee cannot testify regarding any evidence that he may present. the stipulation that he signed at ecf 201 includes his own testimony:
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second, the only "evidence" that he has is poorly cropped screenshots of his thread, his text messages, and his emails.


never.
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You can't submit evidence without laying a foundation for that evidence, which is done through witness testimony.

The exception for this is when both parties stipulate to its authenticity. For instance, in a criminal trial, the defense might stipulate to the authenticity of recorded jail calls because they don't want the jury to know that the defendant was in jail. I don't think that Null is going to stipulate to anything.
 
ShinyStar said:
You can't submit evidence without laying a foundation for that evidence, which is done through witness testimony.
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You CAN submit all the evidence you want, but the jury is going to fucking ignore bullshit (especially if the other lawyer is somewhat alive at least). The jury will also get instructions about how they're supposed to look at reals not feels so evidence about how Russ was "hurt" or "depressed" will be absolutely worthless, no matter how proven.
 
Sexy Potoo said:
Back when Skordas was Null's lawyer during the appeal and Greee got free lawyers, Skordas got a bit lazy at the end of his tenure and didn't oppose things he had the right as the defendant to oppose, expecting to do so at a later time if truly needed.
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Though I've mocked his strategy of "Uncontested, uncontested, yawn, uncontested" Russell did admit to DJF's strategy being to bankrupt Null (not knowing Skordas received a $7000 flat rate for the appeals)

So their endless and increasingly stupid excuses for continuances might have been intentional ploys to make Hardin respond in hopes of costing Null money while they worked pro bono, and Hardin letting it all go uncontested was him refusing to play their game, which would've only cost his time, not Null's money.

I've also suspected that the "file stupid excuses for continuances to goad Null into spending money replying" strategy was discussed with Russell, and he's still using it today
 
DiabeticSydePhil said:
I can't wait for this case to hit discovery because if Russ is this much of a flailing retard when nothing has happened yet, it can only get better once he has to do things.
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We had first discovery, he didn't do things in that one, I don't expect him to do any better this go-around.
 
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reptile baht spaniard rid said:
You CAN submit all the evidence you want, but the jury is going to fucking ignore bullshit (especially if the other lawyer is somewhat alive at least). The jury will also get instructions about how they're supposed to look at reals not feels so evidence about how Russ was "hurt" or "depressed" will be absolutely worthless, no matter how proven.
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That is literally not true. There are rules for what is allowed in and what is kept out at a trial. Most of what is allowed in is agreed to before the trial in preliminary motions. If a party attempts to introduce something that both parties didn't agree to pre-trial during the trial, and/or without a witness to say what that evidence is, and how they got it, then the opposing lawyer will say, "Objection, lack of foundation." Then the judge will say, "Sustained," and the evidence will not be allowed into the trial. It will not be presented to the jury. You cannot show up to the day of trial with a bunch of stuff you want to prove your case and then just show it to the jury. That isn't how court works (unless you're only talking about small claims). Evidence can be kept out because it is irrelevant, because it is more prejudicial than probative, because it was the fruit of a poisoned tree, because it lacks foundation, because it wasn't handed over in discovery, and other reasons. This is why there are pretrial conferences and motions, and why following proper discovery procedures matters.
 
ShinyStar said:
You cannot show up to the day of trial with a bunch of stuff you want to prove your case and then just show it to the jury.
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Look, I’ve watched pretty much all of Perry Mason and you’re definitely wrong.



Jokes aside, the wall of emails he’s been sending with no headers or any way to validate the truthfulness of them is going to be really interesting if the case ever moves forward. Watching this case and Stebbins it’s got to send chills down the spine of lawyers and judges when a pro se litigant shows up. They don’t know the rules, they don’t know how to do basic stuff and now with ChatGPT they can generate mounds of trash filings faster than ever before. The pace of the courts was glacial before but now it’s worse.
 
reptile baht spaniard rid said:
I like ruling if favor of cocks in general, but please explain like I'm a fucking retard
(i am)
or link to the thread where people do the sneedful.
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This is technically the thread for that:

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Law Thread 'Supreme Court Seeks U.S. Govt’s View on ‘Repeat Infringer’ Piracy Cases'


November 26, 2024 by Ernesto Van der Sar

The Supreme Court has signaled its interest in a landmark case that could redefine anti-piracy enforcement. By calling on the Solicitor General to weigh in on the "repeat infringer" dispute between Cox Communications and several record labels, it has become more likely that the Supreme Court will eventually share its opinion on the "billion dollar" piracy controversy.

In 2019, Internet provider Cox...
Reactions:Informative x 9 Like x 4 Semper Fidelis x 1 Lunacy x 1 Horrifying x 6 Thunk-Provoking x 2

I haven't read it fully, but SCOTUS limited when contributory infringement occurs, and states that repeatedly warning users about about not infringing (say like how Null does) weights it in favor of not being contributory infringement.

This is still preliminary, of course, since I've just skimmed it so far.
 
This case concerns contributory liability, which requires that a provider intended its service to be used for infringement. A copyright owner can show the requisite intent in two ways. First, it can show that a party affirmatively induced the infringement...
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Not gonna help Null if the court still insists the DMCA mockery was inducement?
 
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