Trump Enslavement Syndrome - Orange man good. /r/The_Donald and any public demonstration of rabid pro-Trump enthusiasm in spite of all reason.

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Logjam Sliver said:
The ethnat shit is what baffles me in the first place. "Saving the white race"? What the fuck do they care? How much of a superfluous fucking nothing do you have to be where you consider your skintone one of the most sacred things about yourself, to the point that you'll alienate everyone around you just to fight an ideological war you'll stand to gain nothing personally from?
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*brownoid screeching*
Can a Nord live, can a Nord live, please? This country SUCKS. You can come here, eat skaven, you can eat people. You can drive your car into a store, a stolen car. Gang killings, gang killings all the time.

I understand this is a ecumenical thread for TES folks but this level of brownoid posting cannot go un-commented. "Drew from the genetic deck"? Like as if it was just pure chance I was born amongst the people I was, as opposed to any other birth? I am proud of my father, my mother, my long line of ancestors of a close ethnic and religious belonging that resulted in my existence. A existence and a line going from primordial times too now. And I'm not letting that go because some brownie feels icky living ina white country that isn't their own because their own homeland is a shithole.

I'm not even trying to be vulgarly racist, but this extreme attitude towards white identity only makes me more sure of it's rightness in the face of clear, statistical fact we are being replaced, by whatever mechanism you wish to ascribe it to.

I am a generous and kind person, believing everyone personally deserves of fair shake, whatever color or origin. But the White Race is not dead, nor will it go quietly.
 
prollyanotherlurker said:
USPG2 from what I've seen hates indians
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prollyanotherlurker said:
don't connect the dots
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It's still kind of funny to see Trump loyalists now and then pop out and try to argue on his behalf. Then when you confront them with facts, like how America's prestige is sinking and how Trump inflicted a gunshot wound to the economy, they always hide behind the tried and true classic of denying what's in front of them in order to sell their message.

SmokelessFire said:
I am a generous and kind person, believing everyone personally deserves of fair shake, whatever color or origin. But the White Race is not dead, nor will it go quietly.
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Not what I'm seeing in Europe and the West. Western white people, outside of the religious ones, don't seem to be too keen on having kids. They seem to want to go quietly.

And no, it's not just a white man problem, the Japanese, Chinese, and South Koreans have the same problem as white people, with how they will be replaced or outnumbered by brown-skinned people soon enough.

The way things are going, the Japanese and South Koreans would probably disappear before the white man does.

Logjam Sliver said:
The ethnat shit is what baffles me in the first place. "Saving the white race"? What the fuck do they care? How much of a superfluous fucking nothing do you have to be where you consider your skintone one of the most sacred things about yourself, to the point that you'll alienate everyone around you just to fight an ideological war you'll stand to gain nothing personally from? It's just another flavor of identity politics, the same thing behind troonism and the radfem wave of the 2010s. Are these husks so absolutely bereft of personality that they have to use their basic attributes to fill in the gaps, rather than having anything actually substantial to stand for? Do you have anything actually in common with your "white brothers" besides a shared trait so superficial it'd give even the high-school mean girls' lunch table pause over how shallow it is? It's fucking RNG.
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That, and we do have ethnic nationalist states that A) are tough on crime, B) strong on borders, C) big on capitalism, and D) take the needs of the primary populace over the needs of racial minorities and immigrants. Those nations are China, Japan, and South Korea. Guess how the native populations of those countries are doing?

They're absolutely fucking miserable, and they'll be extinct within a century or two.

The solutions that ethno-nationalists propose for "saving the white race" have already been done in other countries, and they didn't save the population for shit. The people of those nations are still fucking miserable to the point where the hope of them continuing to exist is diminishing as the population replacement rate is falling below acceptable levels.

If anything, a strong family ethic is what can save any race, regardless of color. If family bonds and ties are strong, if they support one another and help each other have kids, if the families act as tribal units that foster good parenting and strong bonds of kinship, then you will have youngsters who will have kids, who will be taken care of by their elders while the young adults go off to work. The kids will grow up in a healthy household with loving parents, and they will repeat the pattern, having experienced the loving warmth of a family and wanting to pass it on to the next generation.

Logjam Sliver said:
If you're gonna hate someone, at least do it for their fucking beliefs, not their genetics. "White" doesn't mean anything. There is nothing inherent to the white race that no one from any other race can't adopt and vice-versa. It's nothing more than the suit of the card they drew from the genetic deck, yet they act like it's the fucking Fire Nation or something. "Tally-ho! White Person Attack! You can't learn this technique, it's unique to my clan!"
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Exactly. Hate someone because they chose to be assholes, because they chose to be wrong, not because of something they cannot control.
 
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LORD IMPERATOR said:
If anything, a strong family ethic is what can save any race, regardless of color. If family bonds and ties are strong, if they support one another and help each other have kids, if the families act as tribal units that foster good parenting and strong bonds of kinship, then you will have youngsters who will have kids, who will be taken care of by their elders while the young adults go off to work. The kids will grow up in a healthy household with loving parents, and they will repeat the pattern, having experienced the loving warmth of a family and wanting to pass it on to the next generation.
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So if anything, fascism or other far right ideologies are a result of (and a driver for the continuing of) the breakdown of the institution of the family, just like far left degeneracy.
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
The solutions that ethno-nationalists propose for "saving the white race" have already been done in other countries, and they didn't save the population for shit. The people of those nations are still fucking miserable to the point where the hope of them continuing to exist is diminishing as the population replacement rate is falling below acceptable levels.
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I'd prefer to go extinct than be muttified or replaced by people whom my universe has no meaning.
LORD IMPERATOR said:
If anything, a strong family ethic is what can save any race, regardless of color. If family bonds and ties are strong, if they support one another and help each other have kids, if the families act as tribal units that foster good parenting and strong bonds of kinship, then you will have youngsters who will have kids, who will be taken care of by their elders while the young adults go off to work. The kids will grow up in a healthy household with loving parents, and they will repeat the pattern, having experienced the loving warmth of a family and wanting to pass it on to the next generation.
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No people survive contact with late-capital, industrial civilization. Neither the natives or the aliens who are here long enough. And I wish to push back on this idea that "in my culture, family and food are really important" crap. Having a house where 10+ people live, including various women without stable partners, with multiple bastard children, and non-immediate male relations hanging around is rife with abuse and other, much darker things. Them spurting out more kids at a higher rate supported by gibs, than natives is not a virtue.
 
Aero the Alcoholic Bat said:
So if anything, fascism or other far right ideologies are a result of (and a driver for the continuing of) the breakdown of the institution of the family, just like far left degeneracy.
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They're trying to replace the family with something that can never truly take its place, so yes. Modern far-right Trumpism is just SJW ideology for chuds.

Trump is their daddy, their fellow chuds are their brothers, their elder brothers are the online talking heads who pontificate to the masses. But in the end, that cannot truly replace family.

SmokelessFire said:
No people survive contact with late-capital, industrial civilization. Neither the natives or the aliens who are here long enough. And I wish to push back on this idea that "in my culture, family and food are really important" crap. Having a house where 10+ people live, including various women without stable partners, with multiple bastard children, and non-immediate male relations hanging around is rife with abuse and other, much darker things. Them spurting out more kids at a higher rate supported by gibs, than natives is not a virtue.
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Not quite. The third world survived contact with industrial civilization, yet they still have strong family ties. So do some communities in the first world that maintain strong familial ties thanks to religion and culture.

Also, having a house where there's only one small, nuclear family ends when the kids move out and the parents get too old to care for themselves and are tossed into nursing homes. Then the kids have new families completely alien to the old, with no knowledge of where they came from, while the old rot and wither away in some institution run by nurses who speak foreign languages.

The nuclear family is a corporate byproduct of a neutered family structure. A materialistic system where you only care for yourself and your immediate household while ignoring those who bear the same blood as you. Then folks act surprised when people end up dying alone.

SmokelessFire said:
I'd prefer to go extinct than be muttified or replaced by people whom my universe has no meaning.
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Then go extinct you will.
 
Taser Confetti said:
>Lowest crime rate

lol, lmao even. Cities have been refusing to accurately report their crime rate to the FBI for decades now.
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I will also elaborate and slightly reveal my power level.

I work in law enforcement. Progressive cities were already refusing to report their crime states to the FBI during the Obama administration because crime statistics be racist yo.

COVID and BLM caused an absolute explosion to the crime rate because there’s still people economically fucked from the layoffs and niggers realized they could do whatever the fuck they want in major cities. YN’s in every major city are running around with illegally converted, full auto Glocks and the state prosecutors and Feds refuse to do anything about it.

Even a radical crack down on crime would result in a return to normalcy bringing us down to the early Obama years.
 
MazonLabs Recruitment Rep said:
I was tempted to inform him how his race he thinks he's willing to die for would shank him in a heartbeat to make a dollar.

Just like everyone else, and every other race.

But why bother at this point?
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Why bother, indeed........

Again, if they really wanted to save their people, the methods are there for everyone to see.

This mass deportation shit that Trump is running will only end with people getting angry at American whites. Even European whites have practically disowned any American white person who wears a MAGA hat.
 
LORD IMPERATOR said:
Why bother, indeed........

Again, if they really wanted to save their people, the methods are there for everyone to see.

This mass deportation shit that Trump is running will only end with people getting angry at American whites. Even European whites have practically disowned any American white person who wears a MAGA hat.
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If it really were limited to illegals, I wouldn't have a thing to say about it. I really wouldn't.

But between the rhetoric of the right wing actually wanting dissident citizens getting ICE'd and Trump saying "Homegrown are next", it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out where the endgame of this is, and the dumbasses forget the very thing they said administrations of Christmas past that "be careful, that weapon can be turned against you if you ever lose power."

After people like Jeremy Hambly getting exposed, you'd think they'd figure out how much of the whole thing is just one more hustle. Hell, I thought it would have been obvious after Jim Bakker! But no, we suck. We all suck.
 
MazonLabs Recruitment Rep said:
But between the rhetoric of the right wing actually wanting dissident citizens getting ICE'd and Trump saying "Homegrown are next", it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out where the endgame of this is, and the dumbasses forget the very thing they said administrations of Christmas past that "be careful, that weapon can be turned against you if you ever lose power."
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The Right cheered Bush Jr. for building the surveillance state, only to cry foul when Obama used it against them. What do you think will happen when ICE gets staffed by a leftist president?

MazonLabs Recruitment Rep said:
After people like Jeremy Hambly getting exposed, you'd think they'd figure out how much of the whole thing is just one more hustle. Hell, I thought it would have been obvious after Jim Bakker! But no, we suck. We all suck.
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It's been obvious since the end of Gamergate, after which the main players were exposed as people merely preaching to the choir in order for clicks.
 
MazonLabs Recruitment Rep said:
If it really were limited to illegals, I wouldn't have a thing to say about it. I really wouldn't.

But between the rhetoric of the right wing actually wanting dissident citizens getting ICE'd and Trump saying "Homegrown are next", it doesn't take a brain surgeon to figure out where the endgame of this is, and the dumbasses forget the very thing they said administrations of Christmas past that "be careful, that weapon can be turned against you if you ever lose power."

After people like Jeremy Hambly getting exposed, you'd think they'd figure out how much of the whole thing is just one more hustle. Hell, I thought it would have been obvious after Jim Bakker! But no, we suck. We all suck.
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You have to remember, a LOT of people do not think beyond the "now"; so they don't much consider the whole "uh gee, what if this could be used against me?" On top of which, when it comes to people like Trump, who're selling the whole idea of "we're absolutely up shit creek; we NEED to do X or we're all screwed!", the people become more open to using those rules, because they believe it's ok because it's an "emergency" situation, which is what makes it justifiable.

I guarantee if Newsom or AOC or whoever the fuck they decide to run in 2028 becomes prez, these same people praising all the shit ICE are doing, the excessive power they have and mocking Pretti and Goode will be screaming bloody murder and comparing the Dems to the Nazi party if they use the same powers/same things happen to right-wing people.
 
The Fuck's Going On Here said:
You have to remember, a LOT of people do not think beyond the "now"; so they don't much consider the whole "uh gee, what if this could be used against me?" On top of which, when it comes to people like Trump, who're selling the whole idea of "we're absolutely up shit creek; we NEED to do X or we're all screwed!", the people become more open to using those rules, because they believe it's ok because it's an "emergency" situation, which is what makes it justifiable.

I guarantee if Newsom or AOC or whoever the fuck they decide to run in 2028 becomes prez, these same people praising all the shit ICE are doing, the excessive power they have and mocking Pretti and Goode will be screaming bloody murder and comparing the Dems to the Nazi party if they use the same powers/same things happen to right-wing people.
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Yeah, like I'm not sure why so many MAGA people have practically cheered on having mass databases constructed for what are basically just political enemies.

That's like the easiest thing I could see being used against right wingers in the future.

I've seen some people get really worked up over that guy Howling Mutant on twitter getting outed, and that sort of thing will be even easier in the future if virtually anyone associated with the government is able to just pull up their handy Palantir (or whatever) app to identify people and plug them into whatever is the database de jour.

I remember a few instances of right wingers purposefully going into left wing protests to annoy people in hopes of getting into a fight, as it's routine for the dopamine or content. So what happens if law enforcement can check their Palantir app and see you have a profile with them of being an agitator eager to start fights? Would a future DoJ maybe get used to help create cases against such people?
 
Logjam Sliver said:
It's just another flavor of identity politics, the same thing behind troonism and the radfem wave of the 2010s. Are these husks so absolutely bereft of personality that they have to use their basic attributes to fill in the gaps, rather than having anything actually substantial to stand for
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The one thing I almost respect about the white identity politics. Is they are at least most of them are actually willing to admit they're hate filled racists. Unlike their black/brown/fag fellow culture warrior counterparts. But a lot of them still aren't willing, or able to admit they are just like the people they say they hate. So that kind of undoes the little bit of respect I would have for them willing to be a bit more honest.

They're both pretty insufferable to me. And they really do act alike. They both do the same insane non-sequitur when I push back on their beliefs. IDK how many times I've had the sjw for the white race types, respond with some insane shit like "oh so you just want our women to get raped and murdered?!" or some something equally absurd. It's the same kind of shit I've had troons say to me when I push back on their delusional beliefs. Just instead of it being about white genocide, it's literally just about trans genocide lmao. I swear all these people are exactly the same.

It's the most frustrating thing about it really. If people weren't so mind raped now days, they would probably get along fine. But we are all being manipulated from a million sides at once, and all being convinced that all the other poor, powerless people are actually the problem. So you should totally blame the other guy thats just barely getting by for your problems, and definitely don't look at the people who are making the laws, selling out the country, importing the slave labor to replace you, selling you the shit food that's killing you, creating the conditions that are making the future of you children look more and more dire by the day. Nah, blame the other guys that are in the exact same situation as you, but have slightly different beliefs, or even the same beliefs but a different skin color.


I've never really bought into the white supremacist shit. For one, in my life even though I've lived in fairly culturally mixed places, the biggest problems I've had haven't been with black guys. I have been robbed by a black dude before. But I've had WAY more problems with fellow white people, I've known way too many that act just like white supremacist say black people act. They chimp out the same way, they are just as criminal, they are basically white niggers. A great example of the kind of person I'm talking about is Ethan Ralph. I have known way to many "Ethan Ralphs" in my life to ever take one of these people seriously when they act like it's just a race thing. In general they tend to just have a very confirmation bias like mindset with this stuff. They also have the whole "well these people hate you" narrative, or some variant of that. I really do tend to think you can't be a christian while believing this kind of shit, because I just think, two wrongs don't make a right. Doing the exact thing I don't like another group doing is hypocritical and counter productive.

The last thing I'll say about this. Is I think both sides of this have it completely wrong in the first place. I think the progressives are wrong, when they want to just point out socio-economic factors. Which obviously tends to come from their generally socialist view of the world which I find fundamentally flawed. Even if in this case economic, and social factors do have a role to play. Meanwhile the far right tends to go full retard in the opposite direction. Usually they tend to solely, or at least almost entirely blame genetics. Which again, is pretty obviously flawed. Even if genetics do play a factor. I think genetics plays a limited role, economic status plays a role, but one of the most important things I see both ignoring is culture, and this is where I think the biggest problem at least with blacks really falls into, with anything else being a contributing factor. The leftists I think would just think it's racist to say black culture is the problem (because most tend to blame white people, and the system), it's as much on the black people in America at this point as it is on anyone else. If more of them actually tried to take responsibility and change their culture in a real way. I think everyone would be better off for it. And i do see some of them that are actively trying to do it. Like that one black guy I've posted here a few times that put's Nick Fuentes videos up. I actually think I agree with that guy on most things more than I agree with Fuentes (I which makes sense he seems like he's generally a libertarian).

The one thing I will say, is jews definitely seem to try just as hard to subvert the blacks (if not harder) than they try to subvert the whites. I mean, look at the kind of music they push to these people. It's shit that literally promotes perpetuating repeating the same cycle that they've been stuck in. All of these music production companies are jewish, and they pretty much only push music to them about doing drugs, selling drugs, doing crime, and generally try to make their kids think the cool thing to do is to grow up to be a criminal and a degenerate piece of shit. It seems like a lot of them are also starting to notice that too. Which IMO is great. I really do think there has been a very deliberate effort to try to play into the already present cultural problems with black people, for whatever their goal is. Along with doing that, they've made a deliberate effort to promote a cultural divide between poor blacks, and poor whites as well. I would say it's just a classic divide and conquer. But idk it's hard to say. Depending on which people you think are doing it, and why. Either way, I think race relations could easily be much better than they are now, if it were for people like the subversive jews that have come in and exacerbating the existing divide. Obviously I don't think it's just the jews that caused this, but they definitely haven't been helping.
 
SmokelessFire said:
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Can a Nord live, can a Nord live, please? This country SUCKS. You can come here, eat skaven, you can eat people. You can drive your car into a store, a stolen car. Gang killings, gang killings all the time.

I understand this is a ecumenical thread for TES folks but this level of brownoid posting cannot go un-commented. "Drew from the genetic deck"? Like as if it was just pure chance I was born amongst the people I was, as opposed to any other birth? I am proud of my father, my mother, my long line of ancestors of a close ethnic and religious belonging that resulted in my existence. A existence and a line going from primordial times too now. And I'm not letting that go because some brownie feels icky living ina white country that isn't their own because their own homeland is a shithole.

I'm not even trying to be vulgarly racist, but this extreme attitude towards white identity only makes me more sure of it's rightness in the face of clear, statistical fact we are being replaced, by whatever mechanism you wish to ascribe it to.

I am a generous and kind person, believing everyone personally deserves of fair shake, whatever color or origin. But the White Race is not dead, nor will it go quietly.
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Try again, motherfucker. I'm white. Pasty as you can fuckin' get, in fact, and from a pretty damn pure Mediterranean genetic lineage that I'm fairly proud of myself. Olive oil and tomato sauce run through these veins with gusto, and I'm also said bloodline's last chance of passing anything on genetically considering both my siblings have sworn off children for various reasons... and yet my girlfriend is a mid-toned Native American. I ain't exactly broken up about the impending miscegenation.

You know what I think? I think fears of one's heritage being superseded by others' is a sign of insecurity in the worth of said heritage. If your values and culture are worth passing on, then fucking pass them on. Be the ambassador of that ancestral line to whatever company you end up settling down with, rather than looking at other lineages with trepidation, like an amoeba scared some bigger amoeba will absorb and eradicate any last trace of itself. What's with the fear that your own heritage will be rejected by others if it's supposedly so noble and precious, and that everyone else is out to overwrite you with themselves? Is it projection of some similar "there can be only one" ethnoimperialism you yourself hold towards supplanting other races, or is this akin to some hipster sneering that anybody else "just wouldn't get" his favorite garage band? Or do you think your line isn't admirable... as in you don't believe it's something others would also admire and invest their own effort into preserving? Because that doesn't sound very proud to me. Have some actual fucking pride in who you are. If it has worth, then not everyone is going to be out to fucking destroy it.

"But Tumblrites are out to destroy it! They've said so! They want to assimilate every actually unique individual and identity into a factory-stamped line of ambiguously-brown dangerhaired genderfats in the oxymoronic name of 'diversity' because that's what misguided American social studies classes taught them is good and proper!"

Yeah, and they'll fucking lose. They're as delusional and powerless as toothless Klansmen saying "all of America's problems will disappear the moment we drive out all them thar filthy negros/latinos/Indians/Arabs/[Fox News' villified ethnicity of the week]", only from the other direction. Contrary to the hysterical frenzy /pol/ wants to whip you up into, the white race isn't under fucking threat. No one cares. No one of any actual means has anything to gain from it, which is why--again--there's nothing to be gained from being so fucking militant about this whole "you will not replace us" bullshit. Because I'll tell you: such belligerent affectations aren't a display of strength. They're a display of fear. A reflexive lashing out that is nothing other than a sign that something has got your hackles up and feeling the need to push back. Otherwise you wouldn't bother. And fear of fucking what? JadeHarleyKin_196 on Bluesky? Fuck her. I'm not afraid of her. I'll ram a boot right up her neodick if she tries anything, which she won't, because she's too busy wasting away whacking it to Deltarune yaoi on AO3 whenever she's not writing one of her breathless "transing the world" manifestos to the tune of approximately fifteen updoots.
 
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prollyanotherlurker said:
The one thing I almost respect about the white identity politics. Is they are at least most of them are actually willing to admit they're hate filled racists. Unlike their black/brown/fag fellow culture warrior counterparts. But a lot of them still aren't willing, or able to admit they are just like the people they say they hate. So that kind of undoes the little bit of respect I would have for them willing to be a bit more honest.

They're both pretty insufferable to me. And they really do act alike. They both do the same insane non-sequitur when I push back on their beliefs. IDK how many times I've had the sjw for the white race types, respond with some insane shit like "oh so you just want our women to get raped and murdered?!" or some something equally absurd. It's the same kind of shit I've had troons say to me when I push back on their delusional beliefs. Just instead of it being about white genocide, it's literally just about trans genocide lmao. I swear all these people are exactly the same.
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Funny thing is, you go out of the West and watch videos of South African blacks like Julius Malema from the EFF, Muslim supremacists in Islam majority countries, Hindu nationalists in RSS/BJP/whatever the fuck their group is, etc. THEY have no issue pushing their "Yes, we are the supreme race/ethnicity/religion/whatever."
It seems that it's only when they're in the west, they have to push the leftist idpol shit. To which, I think the reason is that many of them (at least the ones in charge, not the massive amounts of useful idiots they have) are coming at it from the whole "marxist critical theory" lens, which is just applying his retarded economic ideas to culture. So them being the minority makes them the 'proletariat', ergo they're just "punching up", not actually "being racist"; since, of course, racism is P+P=R bullshit.
The other probable reason they don't openly go racist in the west, is they know that the majority of the west doesn't like racism in general, and given they are still an absolute minority, it'd stall their movement even faster due to them possibly losing the support of the 'majority group' that is supporting them. So they have to hide it behind the buzzwords and bullshit.
But if tomorrow, the whites were transported to South Africa or India or whatever other hellhole, they'd see open racists proud of being racists; since there is no fear of being "the minority" over there for those specific groups.
 
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