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I don't know of anywhere that Tylenol (paracetamol/acetaminophen) is controlled unless it's mixed with codeine etc. It's your bog standard over the counter pain relief worldwide.
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Then liver-fucking is all I've got.
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I don't think the medication being offered was the issue per se, it sounded like being expected to take anything orally (rather than administered IV) was what she was actually pissy about and refusing to do. She probably insists on the Tylenol because she thinks if she "needs" anything administered regularly by IV that she can't be turfed out of the hospital (or maybe she's after home health care as a consolation prize?). I'm pretty sure the doctors were basically trying to bribe her with an oxycodone script hoping she'd take it, shut up, and go away. A little unusual for a munchie/BPD case to turn down narcotics, but I think it just means she's committed to the bit, and not everyone experiences opiate euphoria anyway.
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IV acetaminophen is about 2000% the cost of enteric, so a lot of hospitals used to restrict it to ICU or periop, or if someone really and truly didn't have a butthole for rectal acetaminophen.
If she knows that, could there be munchie cred in being "that bad," like a bunch of Twitter ladies with tubes reenacting the business card scene from American Psycho?
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Well, you learn something new everyday.
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I am so tired of hospitals acting like if you have a butthole that butthole Tylenol is the only NPO Tylenol opinion. If there's a GI disturbance, do you think everything will magically freeze and absorb just as it is supposed to? Admin and pharmacists be acting like rectal Tylenol absorbs through sorcery, not the digestive tract.
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It absorbs through the highly vascular area around your rectum, it's nothing to do with the motility of your digestive tract or ability of your small intestine to absorb medications. It's a great option for many types of medications, especially if people have nausea or vomiting.
Drug users have enjoyed absorbing drugs via their rectums for centuries.
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Yeah, but if you have explosive diarrhea, the half-melted suppository just shoots out before it's fully absorbed.
Don't get me wrong, they're great for certain situations, but I get what Lonesome is saying. Sometimes you need IVs and not buttholes.
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In peds patient, if they are vomiting, they are shitting. Or they try to swap it out after GoLytely or a new tube feed. It does not have the same efficacy in these cases, and this is a hill I will die on.
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Caroline's husband seems to be a certain type of personality himself, he is enabling and enjoying the attention. Note he always uses "we" instead of just referring to his wife.
I once needed surgery at the same hospital where I worked. My anaesthetist ended up being a colleague I didn't really get on with, and she was gleeful at getting to anaesthetise me. When I was in the anaesthetic room we discussed analgesia and she told me she was going to give me PR (rectal) ketorolac. I said no, and went under still saying no. Apparently I woke up in recovery shouting "I DO NOT CONSENT, DON'T PUT ANYTHING IN MY ASS".
I still had colleagues saying this to me 5 years later.
I still had colleagues saying this to me 5 years later.
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Paracetamol: a review with specific focus on the haemodynamic effects of intravenous administration
I have never ever given paracetamol PR, over here it's either IV or oral. They probably tried to switch her over to endone because it was cheaper, and safer then keeping her cannula in.
idc if i'm dying, i would never ever ever let a single one of my coworkers see me naked or operate on me, what u went through is was such a violation of ur dignity, i hope ur doing okay <3
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they definitely switched her to oral so they could remove her IV. doing so is another step closer to discharge too and they obviously wanted her out. it's crazy that acting like this in the UK gets you oxycodone and an admission to hospital. is the NHS so strained because they let people like this take up beds? if you showed up to a canadian hospital with these complaints you would get ignored for 13 hours, then laughed at and discharged immediately. i've never seen acetaminophen in IV form here, sounds nice to be able to give it that way instead of shoving it up your patient's asshole.
i don't think i posted these recent videos from irene. the second video is so dramatic and ridiculous it genuinely seems like a bit. she's certifiably insane.
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If you have a severe fever and rigours, paracetamol actually does something to relieve it. Opiates don't. Caroline doesn't so its by the by but trust me if you have a fever of 39.9 and rigours and have to wait 7 hours for your next dose (and are in for something to which ibuprofen is contraindicated) all the oramorph or whatever in the world is nothing.
You won't even be allowed a cup of tea, which to a Brit is tantamount to torture, or a blanket. And the stupid doctors will refuse to overdose you or give you a different medication to reduce your temperature if it is bad for whatever organ is infected to cause the fever. You can assure them your liver has taken worse and they won't care a jot. They just increase frequency of oberservations in case you need to be moved to a higher level of care or whatever it is they'd do if those observations gave them numbers they didn't like.
From someone who likes opiates a bit too much, this is the one situation where the OTC alternative is vastly preferable. You can't even ask someone to sneak you some paracetamol in unless you actively want to fuck with your doctors ability to accurately assess your situation. That would be insanely stupid if you're facing potentially serious organ damage due to whichever infection landed you there.
I haven't thoroughly read everything from Caroline but saw no mention of seriously elevated temperature. I'm just clarifying that there is at least one genuine reason to prefer paracetamol over opiates.
Also, has this woman not heard of an eye mask. Like ffs, if you are wearing something that touches your mouth and nostrils and not washing/rotating it frequently you are just going to have a nice warm and moist environment for passing microbes to settle in on. From there I imagine they can easily take a little jaunt into your lungs.Hopefully its not as gross as Vicky Markhoffs bedazzled getup.but it'll get there. I'm sure mask spergs have elaborated better than I can.
Final thing, what Caroline and indeed all munchies should do and general unsolicited advice: leave your comfort zone. The more you stay in it, the smaller your world gets. Many genuinely significantly disabled people still manage to attempt to provide a sense of normality, care, and support for their kids. If she won't even talk to them she can't tell them what to do in case of emergency. People with chronic health conditions at risk of things such as a diabetic hypo explain to their children what it looks like and what to do if it happens. Afaik (not.a parent) its the number one thing you do if you have times with sole care of children and this is a risk.
Like the above re paracetamol, that doesn't really apply to Caroline cos she's full of shit. But those children have no way of discerning when she's just normal lying in bed in a balaclava refusing to talk to them and when its bad lying in bed in a balaclava refusing to talk to them.
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Yes Irene, it's the medical system that slashed open your arms and sliced off your ear.
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Something very funny about the way she tells her own illness/diagnosis timeline: every time she mentions getting a new diagnosis, the symptoms start after that. Like she starts with endometriosis, then she gets a diagnosis of ME/CFS at some appointment for that. And THEN the extreme fatigue and inability to do anything takes over her life. And then she gets the MCAS diagnosis, and THEN extreme allergies take over her life. A halfway intelligent faker would phrase this story like "just when I thought I couldn't take anymore with the endometriosis, suddenly I found myself sleeping 16 hours a day. I was so fatigued I could barely move my body to get to the toilet, let alone get out of bed to have a productive day with the children. These new symptoms led to a whole nother round of testing, which finally led to a devastating diagnosis of ME/CFS. But then more symptoms started to come up..." She's an idiot.
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Cross-posting from the Krissy Klein (MbP mom of the “Klein Girls Nightmare”) thread because y’all will care more than the guys on that board.
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/kristi...ein-klein-journey-of-hope.61409/post-24749539
Basically, back in 2020 the OP of Krissy Klein’s thread posted about one of Krissy’s orbiters, Stephanie Freeze, who was also a mom who destroyed her child’s health. Freeze had two kids. The older boy apparently had some head/neck issues and was diagnosed with a chiari malformation, for which he underwent surgery. The surgeon told Stephanie that chiari malformations run in families and suggested they do a brain MRI on her younger daughter, Emmalyn, who was 3 at the time and perfectly healthy. Wonder of wonder, the MRI showed that Emmalyn had a chiari malformation, too, and mom signed her happy, healthy toddler up for unnecessary brain surgery. The outcome was horrific. Emmalyn woke up from surgery in excruciating pain from pressure in her head due to CSF leaks and was in constant, unending agony 24/7, especially when upright. Over the next 7 years her mom flew her all over the country, sometimes as often as twice a month, to have dozens of additional brain and spine surgeries, countless lumbar punctures, a complete spinal fusion and unfusion, horrific hardware infections, a reoccurring pseudomeningocele, and so many shunts. It’s worth reading the mom’s account of all this in @large_farva ’s post that I quoted, but be warned, there’s a photo of the infection in the back of the girl’s head that I see every time I close my eyes now.
So I decided to see what ever happened to Emmalyn, who would be 16 now, and I found a GoFundMe with over $70,000 raised and hundreds of updates. Unfortunately, nothing has changed, Emmalyn has now had over 60 brain and spine surgeries and is still in agonizing pain every waking moment. But she has a new care team, and when I read the name of her new doctor, a chill went down my spine (reminding me to never let a butcher touch my spine).
Edited to fix link to my post with more screenshots in the Krissy Klein thread
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/kristi...ein-klein-journey-of-hope.61409/post-24749539
Basically, back in 2020 the OP of Krissy Klein’s thread posted about one of Krissy’s orbiters, Stephanie Freeze, who was also a mom who destroyed her child’s health. Freeze had two kids. The older boy apparently had some head/neck issues and was diagnosed with a chiari malformation, for which he underwent surgery. The surgeon told Stephanie that chiari malformations run in families and suggested they do a brain MRI on her younger daughter, Emmalyn, who was 3 at the time and perfectly healthy. Wonder of wonder, the MRI showed that Emmalyn had a chiari malformation, too, and mom signed her happy, healthy toddler up for unnecessary brain surgery. The outcome was horrific. Emmalyn woke up from surgery in excruciating pain from pressure in her head due to CSF leaks and was in constant, unending agony 24/7, especially when upright. Over the next 7 years her mom flew her all over the country, sometimes as often as twice a month, to have dozens of additional brain and spine surgeries, countless lumbar punctures, a complete spinal fusion and unfusion, horrific hardware infections, a reoccurring pseudomeningocele, and so many shunts. It’s worth reading the mom’s account of all this in @large_farva ’s post that I quoted, but be warned, there’s a photo of the infection in the back of the girl’s head that I see every time I close my eyes now.
So I decided to see what ever happened to Emmalyn, who would be 16 now, and I found a GoFundMe with over $70,000 raised and hundreds of updates. Unfortunately, nothing has changed, Emmalyn has now had over 60 brain and spine surgeries and is still in agonizing pain every waking moment. But she has a new care team, and when I read the name of her new doctor, a chill went down my spine (reminding me to never let a butcher touch my spine).
Edited to fix link to my post with more screenshots in the Krissy Klein thread
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Catching up on the thread a bit.
Re: Aster, I didn't see anyone mention Ketamine abuse in their discussion/speculation about what her deal is. From my own experiences (in this thread, the Chelton thread and far beyond), seeing a munchie with bladder problems and a lethargic/gross lifestyle immediately screams Ket to me. Ket makes you lethargic and sleepy and less able to look after yourself, and its by-products build up in the bladder very rapidly and royally fuck it up. Heavy users can become completely incontinent within a few months of first taking it and they get constant UTIs.
Up until very recently, you had to get Ket prescribed or find some from a consignment that had been stolen from the veterinary supply chain, but (at least in the UK) late last year rogue labs started springing up supplying it for recreational use and the price dropped through the floor. As a consequence it's everywhere. A friend works in a homeless shelter and she said that before Christmas they never had someone come in with a Ket problem and they didn't even have an entry for it in their computer system, now about a third of the intake are addicted to it when they arrive. Another friend works in a special school (retard school) and he says it's everywhere to the extent that there are 12-year-olds who are urinary incontinent and running out of the classroom to top up in the toilets. He also said that it is particularly appealing to people with autism and ADHD because it slows their brains down and helps with over-stimulation, but I don't know how true that is because said friend is very into woo.
There has also been a movement to use ketamine to treat resistant depression, similar to how there was a brief fad for using psychedelics for the same purpose until it became apparent that it was just as likely to break the patient further as it was to help them. I wonder how many munchies saw "there is a small amount of evidence that microdosing Ketamine might re-wire the brain away from the wrong pathways as a last resort in extreme cases, further studies needed" and read it as "spending months in a K-Hole is totally a valid treatment for all your disabilities and anyone who says otherwise is a cross between Hitler and Ming the Merciless"?
Re: Aster, I didn't see anyone mention Ketamine abuse in their discussion/speculation about what her deal is. From my own experiences (in this thread, the Chelton thread and far beyond), seeing a munchie with bladder problems and a lethargic/gross lifestyle immediately screams Ket to me. Ket makes you lethargic and sleepy and less able to look after yourself, and its by-products build up in the bladder very rapidly and royally fuck it up. Heavy users can become completely incontinent within a few months of first taking it and they get constant UTIs.
Up until very recently, you had to get Ket prescribed or find some from a consignment that had been stolen from the veterinary supply chain, but (at least in the UK) late last year rogue labs started springing up supplying it for recreational use and the price dropped through the floor. As a consequence it's everywhere. A friend works in a homeless shelter and she said that before Christmas they never had someone come in with a Ket problem and they didn't even have an entry for it in their computer system, now about a third of the intake are addicted to it when they arrive. Another friend works in a special school (retard school) and he says it's everywhere to the extent that there are 12-year-olds who are urinary incontinent and running out of the classroom to top up in the toilets. He also said that it is particularly appealing to people with autism and ADHD because it slows their brains down and helps with over-stimulation, but I don't know how true that is because said friend is very into woo.
There has also been a movement to use ketamine to treat resistant depression, similar to how there was a brief fad for using psychedelics for the same purpose until it became apparent that it was just as likely to break the patient further as it was to help them. I wonder how many munchies saw "there is a small amount of evidence that microdosing Ketamine might re-wire the brain away from the wrong pathways as a last resort in extreme cases, further studies needed" and read it as "spending months in a K-Hole is totally a valid treatment for all your disabilities and anyone who says otherwise is a cross between Hitler and Ming the Merciless"?
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I think the governments, at least in the West, were really scared that shit was going to hit the fan, so they tried to keep up the pretense of normalcy even though the pretense contributed a lot to the failings of the quarantine protocols. The country in which I lived at the time had initially claimed that children were immune to the disease, so schools weren't cancelled. Later on, the kids had to do online school, and I always thought that was so fucked up. They really should have just called off school entirely and dealt with the aftermath properly instead of half-assing it all.
I don't think TV or screens are the answer for everything though. Books, puzzle games, art, music, cooking, these are all things that children would be better off doing than sitting in front of a screen. I don't really blame the parents during COVID, it really was an unprecedented event for most people and we all dealt with it in different ways. Kids that lagged behind during COVID will catch up if they have good parents, but the typical millennial isn't a good parent.
The plague years won't be discussed in meaningful ways for a while, it's too traumatic for the people. It'll be like the Spanish Flu. Researchers and academics didn't really start to analyze it or write about it until half a century after it had happened.
I don't think TV or screens are the answer for everything though. Books, puzzle games, art, music, cooking, these are all things that children would be better off doing than sitting in front of a screen. I don't really blame the parents during COVID, it really was an unprecedented event for most people and we all dealt with it in different ways. Kids that lagged behind during COVID will catch up if they have good parents, but the typical millennial isn't a good parent.
The plague years won't be discussed in meaningful ways for a while, it's too traumatic for the people. It'll be like the Spanish Flu. Researchers and academics didn't really start to analyze it or write about it until half a century after it had happened.
K has been easily available in the UK for years and years now. I remember my mates talking about the dreaded ketholes back in 2017/2018. Every recreational drug is readily available if you go to parties semi-frequently or have a good network.
I really doubt she's on ketamine. She probably takes low doses of edible cannabis and thinks that's hardcore. I think she's just a lazy good-for-nothing and she can't be assed to clean up after herself. I doubt drugs are involved in anyway.
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Wait, I thought that the proper way to deal with EDS was to quit working, demand gobsmacking amounts of opioid painkillers, scream at doctors, and turn your loved ones into "caregivers?"
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Are you Retarded?
Like a genuine window licking drooler?
NOTHING will save this child.
She seems to have a very good grasp on the reality of having a terminally ill child.
Grow up.
Edited to Add: This kid (and his older, now dead sibling) have a really fucked up genetic profile that is not just norrie disease.
He has very limited cognition and what he has is being destroyed by seizures and apnea.
His Mother seems like shes a bit of a 'medically complex Mom' but not a Horrorcow.
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