ContraPoints / William Nicholas Parrott / Natalie Wynn Parrott / Nykytyne2 - GamerGhazi Cannibalism Victim, Youtube "Intellectual"

Contra looks like he has no fucking chin

saltnpepe said:

He thinks his height of all things is conspicuous.

Those hugbox discords in which hons tell each other how well they pass in the face should be banned in the interest of all trans people. Contra, this is what you look like next to a natal woman:

Trust me, your height should be the least of your concerns.

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Lol what is it about most transwoman looking better as a guy than they do as a woman? It'd be funny if it weren't kinda sad.

Buer said:

Lol what is it about most transwoman looking better as a guy than they do as a woman? It'd be funny if it weren't kinda sad.

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it's because they don't put any effort in

Buer said:

Lol what is it about most transwoman looking better as a guy than they do as a woman? It'd be funny if it weren't kinda sad.

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It's because what's attractive on a man is fugly on a woman.

Also, uncanny valley effect and the fact that feminine fashion creates an unflattering contrast with male features.

LetterlandMafia said:

I say the same about Tim Blake aka demotimvator. Another apparent ‘good SJW’, but will always go to bat for his ‘side’ and will never say when they’re wrong. Hell, just the other day he was staunchly defending some guy who exists purely to troll antis. Meanwhile I’ve never seen him pop up to defend Shoe from anything, only to argue with her.

Bqck on topic, be interesting to see if Shoe says anything about this video. Nothing on her twitter, so either she doesn’t know or has taken it up with Contra in private, which is entirely possible (she mentions talking frequently with RantingF in private).

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She was in the comments section

Also "Gwen No Fear" seems like a lolcow to me.

Feline Darkmage said:

She was in the comments section
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Also "Gwen No Fear" seems like a lolcow to me.

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Sounds like Shoe was a bit in denial about what was said tbh. In the stream Contra definitely did her best to underplay her obvious friendship with Shoe, trying to pass her off as "her colleague that she doesn't totally hate." As for changing her mind on some things, Contra also made it clear that that's basically a one way street. She's in it to try and sway people, but more or less said that she has no intention whatsoever of listening to the other side and considering that their concerns could be rooted in anything other than bigotry.
Hell, at one point in the stream (can't remember when) Contra outright says that she might need to cut off Shoe entirely if her audience thinks that it's necessary, and Shoe0nHead just acts like this didn't happen.

Appreciate Shoe0nHead wanting to give all different types of people a chance, but I really think she should have decided to stop talking to Contra after this. Contra basically admits that she never talks to people she dismisses as "bigots" in good faith, so really why continue a one sided relationship? Seems like a bad idea to me.

Grand Lunar said:

Sounds like Shoe was a bit in denial about what was said tbh. In the stream Contra definitely did her best to underplay her obvious friendship with Shoe, trying to pass her off as "her colleague that she doesn't totally hate." As for changing her mind on some things, Contra also made it clear that that's basically a one way street. She's in it to try and sway people, but more or less said that she has no intention whatsoever of listening to the other side and considering that their concerns could be rooted in anything other than bigotry.
Hell, at one point in the stream (can't remember when) Contra outright says that she might need to cut off Shoe entirely if her audience thinks that it's necessary, and Shoe0nHead just acts like this didn't happen.

Appreciate Shoe0nHead wanting to give all different types of people a chance, but I really think she should have decided to stop talking to Contra after this. Contra basically admits that she never talks to people she dismisses as "bigots" in good faith, so really why continue a one sided relationship? Seems like a bad idea to me.

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I remember reading somewhere that Shoe said something about it being important to have friends no matter what they say or do. I really get a sense from Shoe she is deep down deathly afraid of being alone, and of people not liking her. Others have said in threads I've read about her in the past how she kind of draws in all the interests and likes of the people around her, to make herself more likable.

It's why she tends to seemingly change opinions while never really appearing to have a solid reasoning of her own, she seems to repeat just other points people around her make. She just wants everyone to like her. She'll ignore things if she thinks it might cause her the people around her to dislike her. But if she feels she has the support of the group she'll go through with something.

Medicated said:

I remember reading somewhere that Shoe said something about it being important to have friends no matter what they say or do. I really get a sense from Shoe she is deep down deathly afraid of being alone, and of people not liking her. Others have said in threads I've read about her in the past how she kind of draws in all the interests and likes of the people around her, to make herself more likable.

It's why she tends to seemingly change opinions while never really appearing to have a solid reasoning of her own, she seems to repeat just other points people around her make. She just wants everyone to like her. She'll ignore things if she thinks it might cause her the people around her to dislike her. But if she feels she has the support of the group she'll go through with something.

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I was thinking the same thing. The issue isn't that Contra has different views, it's that she outright admits that her reason for wanting to be friends with dissenters is that she wants to act as a sort of "morality chain" to make them think twice before posting something that might hurt SJWs' feelings, even if its true. Since Shoe says that Contra is the reason she changed her mind on some things and deleted a video, I would guess that it was Contra that got her to:
1. Renounce her stance that you need to actually have gender dysphoria to be trans, because even though this is true it hurts peoples' feelings.
2. Told other people to shut up about Milo and stop criticizing her because she said that she's now open to disagreement and disavowed Gadzi. Seems to be a case of letting herself hear what she wants to hear, since Milo really only apologized for ignoring criticism from other SJWs (still thinks antis are all trolls) and only disavowed Gadzi after being informed that he's an anti-semite, still not caring about all the bigoted garbage he's said about white people.
3. Removed her "Dear LGBT People" video, in which she never endorsed Trump and simply tried to reassure LGBT fans that Trump is actually a bit of a step forward by Republican standards and that his inauguration wouldn't be the end of the world. But apparently any take on Trump that isn't full of massive hyperbole and doesn't have an apocalyptic tone is unacceptable to people like Contra

Also, looking through the comments of the stream, I'm surprised to see so many people saying that they used to be fans of people like Blaire and Sargon until Contra's debates with them pulled them away from the Anti-SJW community. I find this puzzling, because Contra's arguments are usually filled with pseudo-intellectual fallacies and almost always dismisses facts that run contrary to the SJW narrative as bigoted right wing conspiracy theories. Could the real reason that they're switching sides be that they want to appear more socially acceptable? Don't get me wrong, Anti-SJW youtubers are FAR from perfect, but I don't understand how someone who sucks at logic and making fact-based arguments as much as Contra could actually convince people to change their entire view.

Emperor Julian said:

He looks like a bad guy from sailor moon.

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He could have easily played Greg Sestero in The Disaster Artist.

I dont think being a social chameleon is necessarily a bad thin, ive known people who are assholes and legitimately dont care if what they say will piss people of but will still subconsciously change when they are in different groups/have spent a lot of time with one person specifically(usually a boyfriend/girlfriend). Being willing to change is not a negative as long it is kept within reason.
I think shoe is probably right contra is basically being bullied into disavowing her because most of her supporters and support group will reeeee if they think that anyone is not ideologically pure, its all damage control. I may not like him but i dont think that contra is callous enough to just go on a stream and shit talk a friend when he knows she'll see it, If he is he is far worse than i thought thats a real dick move.

As far as people leaving the anti-sjw crowd, I honestly dont believe them I'm pretty sure its just done to inflate whoever they are talking abouts ego and to give the impression that their side is the obviously correct and good one. That or its people who so badly want a community to belong to that is more important to them than anything else either way it has absolutely nothing to do with anyones arguments. If shoe was a part of that second group I dont think she would of only changed a few opinions she would of fully converted to the hugbox.

Grand Lunar said:

Sounds like Shoe was a bit in denial about what was said tbh. In the stream Contra definitely did her best to underplay her obvious friendship with Shoe, trying to pass her off as "her colleague that she doesn't totally hate." As for changing her mind on some things, Contra also made it clear that that's basically a one way street. She's in it to try and sway people, but more or less said that she has no intention whatsoever of listening to the other side and considering that their concerns could be rooted in anything other than bigotry.
Hell, at one point in the stream (can't remember when) Contra outright says that she might need to cut off Shoe entirely if her audience thinks that it's necessary, and Shoe0nHead just acts like this didn't happen.

Appreciate Shoe0nHead wanting to give all different types of people a chance, but I really think she should have decided to stop talking to Contra after this. Contra basically admits that she never talks to people she dismisses as "bigots" in good faith, so really why continue a one sided relationship? Seems like a bad idea to me.

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I think you're willfully blind to the pressure on Contrapoints. Unless he disavows a friendship with Shoe, then his Youtube career is pretty much fucked. He's probably still going to be damaged by his association with Shoe, but his comments will limit that damage. We've seen how SJWs went after Laci Green because she committed the crime of taking a Nazi cock. IMO Francesca Ramsey did start to talk with the antis in good faith but got scared at the Laci backlash and choose to throw them under the bus to save herself.

Contrapoints simply cannot publically be Shoe's friend. I don't think any of Shoe's fans will care that she hangs around with a bunch of wacko trannies.

Medicated said:

I remember reading somewhere that Shoe said something about it being important to have friends no matter what they say or do. I really get a sense from Shoe she is deep down deathly afraid of being alone, and of people not liking her. Others have said in threads I've read about her in the past how she kind of draws in all the interests and likes of the people around her, to make herself more likable.

It's why she tends to seemingly change opinions while never really appearing to have a solid reasoning of her own, she seems to repeat just other points people around her make. She just wants everyone to like her. She'll ignore things if she thinks it might cause her the people around her to dislike her. But if she feels she has the support of the group she'll go through with something.

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It might just be that she is a good friend and not a cunt who drops friends over pretty differences.

KerryDixon9 said:

I think you're willfully blind to the pressure on Contrapoints. Unless he disavows a friendship with Shoe, then his Youtube career is pretty much fucked. He's probably still going to be damaged by his association with Shoe, but his comments will limit that damage. We've seen how SJWs went after Laci Green because she committed the crime of taking a Nazi cock. IMO Francesca Ramsey did start to talk with the antis in good faith but got scared at the Laci backlash and choose to throw them under the bus to save herself.

Contrapoints simply cannot publically be Shoe's friend. I don't think any of Shoe's fans will care that she hangs around with a bunch of wacko trannies.

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Still not a good idea to stay friends with someone who's going to sell you out to win points with their fanbase. I also highly doubt that the stuff about wanting to be the "morality chain" for supposed bigots and about not being at all open to changing her own views was all completely manufactured, so Contra has pretty much outed herself as a disingenuous friend and potentially toxic influence. And it might have worked pretty well too, since if you look at my list above I give 3 examples of what seem to be Shoe0nHead disregarding factual information for the sake of getting along with the SJW crowd and further building a one-sided bridge.

Also, just wondering, have you seen ArmouredSkeptic's video about his interaction with Francesca Ramsey? In it he says that she was more or less trying to manipulate him into helping police the Anti-SJWs and into making nicer videos himself. Personally I believe this because it's consistent with what I remember of what she did with Andy Warski (guilted him into apologizing for mean jokes, refused to talk with him publicly, and dodged any attempt to debate ideas, redirecting back to tone policing). Her speech about "open dialogue" at vidcon was similarly void of any insight on why she thinks there's such a large ideological divide and how to talk to people with different opinions, as I'm convinced that she doesn't really care. Instead she just talked about how mean these conversations can get and advocated for taking them "offline" rather than continuing the current public discourse, which we all know is just an excuse to effectively neuter her critics and trick them into letting her ideas seem unchallenged publicly. Then, of course, the Laci Green backlash really picked up and she probably decided that the risks of what she was doing outweighed the benefits and threw them all under the bus, as harshly as possible I might add. If she had been genuine she probably would have backpedaled more softly, or at least been less personal with the attacks.

Grand Lunar said:

Also, looking through the comments of the stream, I'm surprised to see so many people saying that they used to be fans of people like Blaire and Sargon until Contra's debates with them pulled them away from the Anti-SJW community. I find this puzzling, because Contra's arguments are usually filled with pseudo-intellectual fallacies and almost always dismisses facts that run contrary to the SJW narrative as bigoted right wing conspiracy theories. Could the real reason that they're switching sides be that they want to appear more socially acceptable? Don't get me wrong, Anti-SJW youtubers are FAR from perfect, but I don't understand how someone who sucks at logic and making fact-based arguments as much as Contra could actually convince people to change their entire view.

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People fall for pseudo-logic arguments all the time, look at flat earthers and anti-vaxxers, it's easy to pull the weaker members of a group over to your side when you get the platform. It's why I think some SJW-types say they want an open discussion, but in reality they want to turn as many people as they can, and the wider the platform, the more chance they have of succeeding.

The Skeptic/Anti-SJW community doesn't do itself any favors in that regard because of ego-centric people at the top of the food chain like Sargon being their "leader". And I think its getting worse all the time.

Shoe should have never got into that community, because she just wants everyone to get along and like her. So she'll willfully ignore things people on both sides do to "keep the peace"

So is he ones of 'those' Trannies who likes to Identify as their cake and eat it too with transitioning and still liking women?

saltnpepe said:

hons

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Hello fellow /tttt/ poster

what do you think about that tripfag who makes /hontrapoints/ generals every day despite no one ever being interested in the subject?

Grand Lunar said:

Surprised no on has posted this one yet.
Contra talks to an anarchist critic of hers about her willingness to engage with non-progressives. Contra then goes on to basically say that she thinks all of the non-sjw people she's engaged with are total bigots and brags about how she would never even consider thinking that they might have valid points. She also throws ShoeOnHead under the bus, claiming that they've never been actual friends and that she only bothered interacting with her to see if she could sway Shoe's "racist, sexist" outlook.
Not sure why people seem to think Contra is a "good" sjw. This, in conjunction with her "supporting free speech = defending facists" stance pretty much prove that she's just like the rest of them, simply more pragmatic in what strategies she's willing to try to enforce her ideas.

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And that's a good thing. The main problem of SJWs is how often they are naive and disconnected from reality in their narratives and ideas. If they were more pragmatic, they wouldn't be as embarrassing and insufferable.

The most frustrating thing about Contra is her constant apologetics for + flirtations with the violent anarcho-communist crowd. She spews out ridiculous alternate universe claims of groups like Antifa being "mostly self defensive," and acts like her only objections to the violence is pragmatic rather than moral.

An HOUR LONG spergout about Ray Blanchard and literally every person who dedicated their entire career to helping trans people. Highlights include the usual "Ray Blanchard is secretly into tranny porn", "muh feels" and "muh Julia Serano" (batshit transfeminist who writes slam poetry about the stuff coming out of her dick, which I assume is some tranny version of freebleeding). With his amazing credentials of a failed philosophy major, Nick explains why autogynephilia "scientifically" isn't a thing because it hurts his feelings:


But ruh-roh, science actually disagrees.

The review of the available data seems to support two existing hypotheses: (1) a brain-restricted intersexuality in homosexual MtFs and FtMs and (2) Blanchard’s insight on the existence of two brain phenotypes that differentiate “homosexual” and “nonhomosexual” MtFs.

Only 2:18 in so far (I'll update this with more complaints as I go on) but here's a list of things already
1) Don't have Peter Coffin work on anything with you in any capacity, he's trash and his name being attached to yours is not a good look
2) Buffalo Bill is explicitly said to not be a transsexual in the Hannibal books, and in the movie
edit: seems much better than I expected. but a couple more

3) end segment is full of victim complex that wasn't entirely needed.

saltnpepe said:

An HOUR LONG spergout about Ray Blanchard and literally every person who dedicated their entire career to helping trans people. Highlights include the usual "Ray Blanchard is secretly into tranny porn", "muh feels" and "muh Julia Serano" (batshit transfeminist who writes slam poetry about the stuff coming out of her dick, which I assume is some tranny version of freebleeding). With his amazing credentials of a failed philosophy major, Nick explains why autogynephilia "scientifically" isn't a thing because it hurts his feelings:

But ruh-roh, science actually disagrees.

The review of the available data seems to support two existing hypotheses: (1) a brain-restricted intersexuality in homosexual MtFs and FtMs and (2) Blanchard’s insight on the existence of two brain phenotypes that differentiate “homosexual” and “nonhomosexual” MtFs.

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Shouts out Kiwi Farms around 41:05. Makes me wonder if she's actually read all the criticism in this thread.