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i genuinely enjoy when they come and shit up their own threads instead of just ignore it.
Gabriel Sickel / ThisIsGabe / KhordKitty / KhordiKit / Khordz / PianoKat / Xyniroz / Ghörfn / yiffyiff123 / Deborah Kay Butler / Buttercuppedbun - Deadbeat Wannabe-Actor MGTOW Pedo-zoophile - Divorced father of 2 sons. Tried grooming them as infants to be cub furries. Tried to groom a 17yo into sex. Ex-wife cucked him for a pedo. She took the kids. He fucked the family dog. His mom likes horse cock
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No, he's replying to comments on his profile so he'll probably be back to shit up the thread some more soon.
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No I won't.
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Yes you will because you think you're such a tough guy
But really you're just a fat troon
Fucking LMAO your Flickr is a field day of hilarious material.
Holy shit, Deb was right. You really are a flaming faggot.
I'm fucking dying, y'all. This is too fucking hysterical
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Wait wait wait so, judging by the pics CYB posted, his fetish is very specifically, turning into a female feral cat and getting fucked by male dogs. Previous information in this thread confirms this fetish preference, as well as several "ironic" jokes implying he fucked his dog.
I guess I was right to change my mind about him based on this:
my dog fucker sense was tingling and ya know maybe there's something to it. Really gets the noggin joggin.
I guess I was right to change my mind about him based on this:
my dog fucker sense was tingling and ya know maybe there's something to it. Really gets the noggin joggin.
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I've seen some fucked up shit too but why in the living fuck would you bookmark it? No one watches BME Pain Olympics and says " Yeah, I'd like to save this for later " unless they're into that shit.
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this man is the last man to tell me about neckbeard gamers in basements and hedonists
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Seriously this dude is reaching TommyTooter levels of crazyness. What compells him to come back over and over and write stupid rambles? At this point it almost feels fetishy, like how kop acts. Also the fact that your wife took the kids makes my heart warm everyday.
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First time I heard about it was on KiwiFarms last year! The story of "Oh, I pled guilty because justice is blind!" really fooled me from 2016-2019. Once I found out about the flirting with a 16 year old I was like "TWO RED FLAGS. That's all I need to remove him off of my social media for life."
Furry erper? I said multiple times I hadn't looked at or seen my F-list since I made it in 2012ish.
I could TEACH the parenting classes easily. The problem is so far all of the critiques of my parenting here are based on false rumors. Now because there are SO many false rumors, the real question becomes "Okay, how do you prove an event never happened when there is no proof that it did happen?"
The most important thing is, if there is any event of bad parenting then the best way to prove it false is to ask the question: When was the date? So I ask that! When was the date of bad parenting? Present it.
According to a friend of mine and what I've seen on youtube: CPS won't do anything unless your kid is bleeding, dying, starving, and on the edge of death. But I DID contact CPS. They told me "If there is no arrest record we can't do anything, but you can fill out a report". I will fill out a report as soon as the place opens.
The most juicy "facts" of this thread are basically: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cherry_picking
Yes, it would be incriminating if I only had 20 watchers on Twitter, 20 bookmarks on my computer, or 20 tweets. But you have literally thousands and thousands of each to cherry pick through. And it's all with the assumption that I have ANY possible way to know when someone on my Twitter watch list has done a crime. And really, I'd need to google over 1,000+ different usernames to get news of it. I would of never known Kintari did a crime if I hadn't found out from a random chat I had with someone in November 2019. Simple put, it was some juicy gossip that hadn't spread beyond KiwiFarms and DogpatchPress.
The goal was to respond to really unfunny trolling to funny trolling. Ya'll need some trolling training. That's the fact of the matter. You guys are REALLY bad at trolling. Like, try to have fun and watch some old Comedy central Roasts to really get skilled at doing it right.
Well originally I was gonna go script some videos and then I realized "Holy crap, the lighting here is bad!" So I wanna try and noodle my way with working with some new equipment I got a few months back, I wanna work with Ableton to try and see if I can make some magic with it. And most importantly I gotta figure out a good lighting scheme. So many of the lamps have a yellow glow that will look really bad on a white fursuit.
She forgot her password, so she made a new account.
I didn't sling any dirt. From June 16th 2019-July 4th 2019 I sought legal advice from my furry facebook/telegram friends. The way I sought legal advice was I said a dry objective retelling of the events to my furry facebook/telegram friends since there was no possible way to get an attorney. (I couldn't afford it at the time)
On July 4th she took 2 computers I was using. On July 6th she looked at my facebook/telegram messages and noticed "Hey, when people hear the retelling of the events, they think I'm bad! That's dirt slinging! I'll get revenge by posting public messages on social media! That will be a good revenge!" What she didn't know was, 99% of my furry facebook/telegram friends had no idea who was my ex-wife was because I didn't give out her name, I didn't give our her furry name, and I never really talked about her in general. I'd say "my ex" and they'd have no idea who it was cuz she's not well known. Though, whenever they asked "What's her name" I'd give out the name and that RARELY happened.
What happened was I just said "Hey, my ex did this and this. I don't know what to do. What should I do?" and after the conversation was over, STILL they had no idea who BunBun was and I didn't mention her name at all. I had to do the difficult task of protecting her privacy, while seeking legal council from the fandom.
Actually it IS a rumor. In fact this is one of the earliest examples of her presenting a list of about 50 different lies presented both publicly and privately with the goal of discrediting me: Since I had some private dirt on her that she REALLLY doesn't want anyone to know about. And I don't want anyone to know about it either because I GENUINELY want people to like her, I want her to be successful in the fandom, and I want everyone to know that I support her involvement, popularity, and success 100%.
How can I prove that I both want to respond to her untrue public accusations of me AND that I also want people in the fandom to embrace her involvement? This is a nearly impossible task that I've been trying to do for 9 months. It's impossibly difficult! How am I supposed to do this respectfully, especially when it's my desire to keep the divorce private AND to also prove that I'm not trying to hide anything? It's an impossible expectation.
In regards to the "12 random furries" rumor, and the "video proof" let me give you the real time line.
August 6th 2019 - She officially moved out of the family home and gave me a greenlight to rent out the master bedroom and 1 other bedroom. She left a giant mess and it took me around 3 days to clean it up.
August 7thish 2019 - BunBun asks her attorney to email me because, after she lost her divorce-binder in her car/house, she accused me of stealing it. I said I had not seen it.
August 8thish 2019 - Three furries came over to check out the bedroom. 1 was a visitor, 2 were interested in moving in. They brought in their fursuits. At the time I only had 1 roommate (not a furry).
August 9th 2019 - A farmers vegetable delivery came to the house. I get a message from her asking if I could return it since she neglected to change the vegetable delivery to the new address. I offered to exchange it for the 2 laptops and the external hard drives that she took from me. She refused.
August 10th 2019 - I attended LexiCon, at the Clarion Inn Conference Center (a charity con for a 5 year old girl suffering from brain cancer). The three furries were at Wienerschnitzel. BunBun came into the home to try and find the legal binder and the vegetable delivery. She opened up all of my containers and threw all of my belongings all over the floor. She opened up the bags and containers of the three furries and threw all of their belongings all over the bedroom.
She caused minor damage to 2 fursuit heads. They were easy fixes, one of the furries mothers repaired both of them. It was no biggie.
The furry guest and the interested furry roommate came home from Wienerschnitzel to see her searching through their wallets and belongings. They were completely traumatized and crying as BunBun was filming them on her phone giving a little smile. BunBun called one of my friends and said "Haha! The judge will never give him custody!". So her goals were:
1. Retrieve the legal binder she thought was stolen.
2. Get the veggie delivery.
3. Make a mess, film the house as a mess, and to use that to tell the Judge that "Oh see, the house is a mess, the kids shouldn't be here).
As the two furries were having a nervous breakdown, they called me as the 3rd furry was transporting me from LexiCon to the house. They told us they were having a nervous breakdown and were crying. They didn't know why some "random person" was throwing their personal belongings from their bags all over the place. After I got home, I found BunBun there, smiling and filming me on her phone. She snuck into her car, one of the furries called the police. The police said "Well, she owns the house, she can come in whenever she wants".
Right after I came home I made a video recorded witness statement from the 3 furries and I took video of the house. Took me about 2 days to clean up the second mess.
And again, try to put myself in this impossible situation. How can I both prove to you that I want you to think she's a good person AND still give you a truthful retelling of the events that she posted in the public sphere? It's really really hard task! It's a nearly impossible task. But.. after I received a death threat as result from one of her rumors I came to the realization that my safety would be threatened if I DIDN'T address the private divorce in a public sphere.
That is the basic fact of the matter. I have to choose between my safety and her privacy. Not a good choice. But it's the Catch-22 that defined my life for the past year!
As I said, she forgot her password. Nothing really juicy to say about that.
On August 3rd I missed a deadline to respond to the divorce. She filed for a default. So she thought that default meant she can kick me out of the house. I filed a request to vacate the default. The request was granted. So her talking about any default is simply a reflection that she, like myself, don't really understand much about family law. It's a complex deal.
No, that is not me. I don't know who that is. It's some rando furry.
But its true. They are perfect for each other. They have a ton in common. But remember, that was while I was living in the same house as the kids. So the idea she'd move out and give him a key was ... completely impossible to anticipate.
Literally the exact same day I found out they were hooked up I tried to dig dirt on Kalu, that was July 2019. And when I found out, it was like "JACKPOT" and when I told BunBun she said "rumors!". I've said it repeatedly that I had witnesses and she just .. doesn't respond to the messages at all anymore. Considering they're both in the room "wetferals" I KINDA am starting to suspect she might know more then she's letting on.
Honestly, in my interactions with my ex-wife: KiwiFarmers are NICER to me then she is. That's a fact.
In December 2019 she gave me a Lenovo ThinkPad that was originally owned by a babyfur (who acted in the famous CSI: Las Vegas episode) and I opened it up. She didn't sign out of Telegram. I talked to my pops friend about if it was legal for me to look at it and she confirmed that: Yes, it was perfectly legal because she said "Here, this is yours now".
When I snooped in my ex-wives messages (yeah I know, creepy stalker ex-husband impression is TOTALLY deserved!) it appeared that.. both her and Kalu are basically "faking a break up" until the whole divorce thing is finished. That way, after I say "yeah, she's dating a dogdiddling pedobear" she can respond "Oh, but we broke up already!". She made a point to tell all of her friends "Yeah! We broke up!" to try and fool me.
And what's really important is that... how can I improve my contact list if I don't have access to all the juicy gossip? It's almost like, ya'll are trying to encourage me to join your ranks so I can clean the scum off of my Twitter watch list.
No it is not. In fact I'd post my TGTF commissions here but I thought there was a rule against posting porn. Am I wrong?
So, again, in 2015 I received a link to a website where a dogfucker claimed there was a difference between zoophiles and bestialist. This is the first time I ever heard of this concept where not only is someone trying to normalize animal abuse, BUT trying to show there is a specific difference between animal abusers.
That exact page you see ""What is the difference between a bestialist and a zoophile" and this is the reason it was saved. This is one of the most fascinating things I've ever read. Along with the essays on the front page of NAMBLA, it's a must read for anyone who loves abnormal psychology.
This dude tries to claim that if an animal abuser has an emotional attachment to the animal then it's a "zoophile" and if not it's a "bestialist". I put it in my bookmarks so I could read the whole thing. It was one of the most fascinating things I've ever seen.
Both in the NAMBLA front page essays and this essay differentiating bestialist and zoophiles NOT ONLY try to normalize their child/animal abuse but they also try to morally justify it by saying the victims "TOTALLY WANTED IT". It's a spectacular read. I first got interested in psychology in 2008 when I was trying to figure out WHY my first girlfriend broke up with me. At the time she told me a group of reasons that didn't appear to line up with my intentions and THAT drove me to want to learn more about psychology.
The big reason I wanted to put that link out there was, because it's BRILLIANT evidence. In fact it's her best evidence. Why would someone put a link about how to abuse animals in their bookmarks? Well, if you weren't aware of my obsession with abnormal psychology, it would be clearly suspect. It'd be equivalent to looking into Osama Bin Laden Jr.s book shelf and finding "Suicide Bombing for Dummies". And it's really easy to try and make a connection of that link and the whole feral TGTF interest as well.
And on top of that it succeeds in her goal of "trying to find some sweet dirt to use in court from these two computers I share!" She searched through thousands of bookmarks to try and find the juiciest stuff. This particular picture is what helped motivate the individual to do the death threat. And so, I think it's really important to put it out there first.
I'm replying on this thread cuz I want ALL the facts out. I wanna make sure everyone knows 100% of the information, even if the Cherry-picking fallacy has ABSOLUTELY brainwashed the poster and most of the farmers, that's ok. My goal is making sure there nothing hidden. All the facts are on the table. I am open to questions.
A bit more about the Cherry-picking fallacy: I have 1,000+ Twitter followers, 5,000 facebook friends, 10,000+ tweets, 1,000+ bookmarks, and an InkBunny feed with 1,000+ pictures coming in.
To try and find patterns while ignoring some data while choosing data that fits a conclusion is really really easy! Anyone can do it.
The only reason I didn't bookmark that was because I was able to finish it in one sitting. The "zoophilia and beastialists are different" essay needed to be bookmarked so I can read the whole thing. It's a must-read to anyone interested in abnormal psychology.
If I hadn't read it in 2015 I would never learned the meaning to the word "zoophila".
Cuz it's all a complex issue. Putting all the facts out there is really important. I've told everyone my life is an open book, that's a fact. I overshare to prove I have nothing to hide.
Well it's good you feel that way. As I said, I want people to think she's a good furry who deserves nothing but all the success in the world. Although I also have to get all the facts out about any false accusations directed at me.
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She took them to live with a pedophile. Remember that.
So you heard about it first in 2016. NOT 2019. You're such a shitty fucking liar.
Actually you last looked at it at 2016 according to the OP, but go off.
They're not rumors. You were stupid enough to confirm everything here by running your mouth.
Prove it. You didn't fill out a report THAT DAY means you're a fucking moron
lol
Okay, fat.
Or maybe you realized no one fucking gives a shit about your opinions, catfucker.
Sure she did.
Yes you did. All you've been doing is slinging dirt to anyone who will listen. You said you had an attorney but we all knew that was a lie too.
You posted about who she was EVERYWHERE. Are you THAT dense? Of course people knew who you were talking about. You made a public proposal in your shitty suit that can easily be found on your FB, Twitter, and YT.
Your flip flopping is evident and you're only trying to save face so people don't shit on you. Man up. Post the fucking proof or no one will believe you, fat faggot.
Doubt.
Do you REALLY think we're that stupid lmao that's you, you fat fuck.
You were her husband. We know damn well you were into this shit so you should KNOW that she was too.
As far as Kalu goes, all the info I found on him did not take long to find. You've clearly known him since 2015 yet you couldn't be bothered to do a surface scroll through his FA? Doubt.
Then why the fuck don't you screencap and rat her to her extremely Conservative mother, catdiddling pedobear?
We don't want you here. The information is public. Even without countless forum posts to look at, these freaks don't do a good job concealing their fetish. You're just an idiot trying to bs us that you don't want to associate with these people yet you can't be bothered do bare-bones research.
Lol
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I heard about the 15 year old conviction details from Growly at Califur 2016. I heard about the FA chatlog-flirt in 2019 from KiwiFarms.
Then we'll have to agree to disagree.
No, it means I don't want to get fired. I called them while I was at work on my 12-hour shift. And I have nothing but 12-hour shifts till the weekend. I get 10 minute breaks and my lunch break is barely enough time to do anything.
I looked it up on google, it's not legal to post someone elses chat logs without explicit permission. So even though I saw a chatlog with her claiming that she forgot her password, I can't send that to anyone without breaking the law. That's just the truth of the matter.
No, what would happen was I'd tell an objective, retelling of the events of my life. They'd almost universally respond with "That's awful!" That's not slinging dirt. I never said anything untrue or subjective about her. Slinging dirt is subjective language.
Her saying that my actions caused people to dislike her is gaslighting. HER own actions and words caused people to have a negative reaction. All I did was describe words and actions that she was doing to me and that's it! No mudslinging at all. How am I not allowed to say the basic facts about what actions are happening to me to my friends online? Any restriction of my speech is a direct violation of my first amendment rights.
BOTH of us were talking to our friends about the events. Only difference was she was describing the events subjectively and I was describing them objectively. I did not use subjective language and I did not mudsling.
My attorney was retained in the middle of August 2019. Prior the only source of my legal advice was google, youtube, my friends and my family.
No, most of my Telegram contacts didn't know my Twitter, my facebook or my youtube.
Be specific. What are you looking for proof of?
When that picture was taken, I was in fursuit. The time stamp is May 14th 2016 at Biggest Little FurCon 2016. Likely that event was either the fursuit parade or whatever replacement they had for the fursuit parade. I know at some point they had a buncha group pictures and a meet-and-greet to replace the parade. IDK the timing. But I know I was in fursuit at the time.
The one thing that tied BunBun, myself and Kalu was all three of us were into feral art. I have a screen shot of her FA favorites: She faved a lot of feral art from Carrot and she's currently in the wetFerals telegram chat: A feral watersports RP fetish chat.
Again, I want ALL the facts out there. Everyone knows my interest in feral is directly stemmed to the TFTG interest. I can tell you I first got interested in transformation because of three sources;
1. A Seth Green Fruit Loops commercial from 1990 where he transforms into a parrot.
2. The 1991 movie Rock-a-doodle where the main character transforms into a cat.
3. American Werewolf in London, which I also saw around the same time, maybe when I was 7.
I did, but not in the scraps. I first saw his scraps in July 2019. The scraps is where the pedoart was hidden. I can tell you all the info I have on my relationship to Kalu:
2009 - Kalu was one of the very first furries I met on Pounced. I walked with him in Santa Cruz and I recall he was VERY intelligent. He appeared to be opinionated about Government and health. I was VERY impressed. I thought he was one of the most intelligent people I had met and I respected him for it.
2010 - He drew my fursona in feral art at Further Confusion! SFW and NSFW. Again, I will post whatever proof you want on request. I don't have any problem with that. I want ALL the facts on the table.
2011 - This is where things turn out REALLY bad. At a sleep over he told me there were some people spreading nasty rumors about him. I told him "Look, you gotta be honest, tell the truth and clear up any misunderstanding" and then he threatened to punch me in the face. And he said he was angry at me because I kept him up and he said I was going to make him late for work (I believe he worked at Subway at the time)
At a furmeet I had a conversation with the leader of a major furry group. He told me some dirt on Kalu and told me "You really should avoid him. He's rude and I banned him".
But anytime someone says "This is a bad furry, avoid him" I will ONLY do so if I get hard evidence. I don't make assumptions. If you tell me "Yah, Bob the goat is a nasty furry. He always begs for money!" I'll assume it's false until I get a testimony from someone who is a witness of it or actual text message proof.
Somehow she got in touch with BunBun in 2015/2016 and I figured that MAYBE he changed his ways. Maybe he turned his life around. He acted like he wanted to be friends and I felt bad for trying to hold onto 5 year old drama, especially because I remember in 2009 he was so nice and so smart. I wanted to know that he was ready to be friends again.
2019 - Once I found out they were mated I remembered the conversation I had in 2011 with the furry who said "You really should avoid him. He's rude and I banned him". So I got in touch with him and told him I genuinely wanted to know details on his dirt. He spilled it and BOOM, it was shocking.
Remembering my conversation with Kalu in 2011 I KNEW that he was really concerned about rumors and he wanted people to like him. I really empathized with that. But on July 2019 I realized "Okay, maybe those same rumors actually had some serious evidence."
I was not disappointed the evidence. I even talked to 2 dog owners who were victimized. But BunBun told me in writing that everything I said about him was heresay and that she thought I was just mad about the breakup. I was never mad about the breakup. It was more along the lines of "How do I take control over nasty rumors being spread about this divorce if have no control over anything?". And that question I've been dealing with for the past year.
I care about my kids more then anything in the whole world. But if you knew 100% of the facts of the case, you'd realize: I genuinely have absolutely no control over the situation in any respect. It's upsetting but it's just the facts of the matter. I'm always the one lecturing my friends "Focus on what you have control over!" and this is why I'm trying my hardest to not focus on the divorce at all. I'll just make myself depressed because it's not a controllable situation. It never was. (but I WILL contact CPS on monday. Mark my words)
I told her parent via text that I had proof about what I said to be true and that I'd be willing to send it. They didn't respond. I want to respect that boundary. If they don't want to be involved with their daughters divorce, they don't have to be. I don't want to force any issue. I think their thinking was "BunBun is unilateral." And that's a fact. If you knew what a unilateralist was like, you'd know that literally everything you do or say will never change any of their actions.
No, I genuinely never google my friends names. If I hear someone has done a crime, I disassociate with them. There is a good reason I don't google my friends names: My contact list on facebook, skype, and Telegram has around 10,000 furries. Who has time to google their friends names?
You take for granted the fact you hang out in KiwiFarms all of the time and you're able to find out about Kintari the moment its known he did a crime! I didn't hang out in KiwiFarm. I found out about Kintari from a conversation I had with a friend in November 2019. They linked me to an article by Patch and I read it. It was eye opening. Once that happened, he had already deleted most of his social media.
I don't have the benefit of being able to lower the 10,000 contacts by being savy to every little bit of gossip exposing them. Who does? KiwiFarms users. How can I find out which of the 10,000 might of done something illegal or immoral?
I'd need to google all 10,000 people. And if I DON'T google all 10,000 you'll say "you can't be bothered do bare-bones research". It's a Catch-22, ultimately, whatever I do you'll NEVER be satisfied.
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So you admit to knowing about the conviction in 2016. That's all we needed.
That sounds like a you problem for not talking to your boss.
No one cares. It's done all the time.
You're not wrong that people who dislike her have legitimate reasons but you still made a private matter public. Pretending you weren't flinging dirt yourself while she was just makes you look like an asshole.
Doubt.
Your attorney would drop you like the sack of shit you are as a client if he saw you doing this.
Doubt. Google.
- Filing a report with CPS
- Having a lawyer
- That your friends are really too retarded to figure out your ex-wife was Deborah
- Videos you recorded of your friends having a " mental breakdown " because Deborah touched their shit
We already knew this, stupid. And no one gives a shit as to why you're into fucking cats
This seems like an incomplete story. You're not telling the truth and the fact you knew he was sketchy but chose to interact with him anyways makes you look like shit. We know he's a dogfucking kiddy diddler so you not saying specifically what he told you makes you look guilty as hell.
Then act like it. You're acting the same way Onision did when he let his kid fall out a 2 story window and split her head open. You're more concerned with your self-image than the kids' well-being.
This has evolved way way WAY past it being about the divorce. This is about the kids. Don't respect that fucking boundary. Rat her out for being an abusive she-bitch and endangering the boys.
You don't even have to fucking Google. Just look at their god damn profile you idiot. They're " friends " with you on FA (which is where most of this degen shit comes up) that's the simplest fucking thing. Better idea, don't fucking have 10,000,000 friends on Facebook when at best you only talk to >10 consistently. You know, like a normal fucking person.
I was told about Kintari through a mutual on Twitter back when I had an account. They reached out to me specifically and shared everything because I was looking into a private matter for someone else and his name kept popping up. Anyone so happens to mention his name you'll have people flooding your DM's with warnings to stay away from him but I guess you're illiterate too.
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you cannot keep any of these lies straight, please don't insult people's intelligence here with this shit.
You said it yourself, with over 10,000 contacts in a fandom as sketch as furry, there's bound to be a few actual pedos and dog fuckers in the mix.
And if you have time to somehow talk to over 10,000 fucking people over the span of a few years, even while working some rough full time jobs, I'm pretty fucking sure you have like, 30 seconds to verify on Google if people give you a name, alias, and actual conviction as in Growly's case.
As for "trying not to assume" I played that game for far too long before I learned if it walks like a dog fuckers, talks like a dog fucker, and acts like a dog fucker, they are most likely a dog fucker or would at least try it, given opportunity. Which makes them dangerous as all fuck, to both children and animals.
I actually had a guy I knew in the fandom, liked him well enough, but some red flags were kinda making me think his relationship with his dog was kinda weird. Like these weird little jokes about how he was whacking it and the dog came up to him "for a bone." I implied him I didn't really think it was that funny, in that sorta awkward "haha yeah um, I don't think that's so funny." and he would stop, and then later another kinda weird "joke" or something. This was when I was starting to get a little distanced from furry, but the grooming from when I was a teenager would still cause me to excuse a lot of shit I now realize I shouldn't have.
I find out a month later from someone that lived with him that a reason he got kicked out was because of a ton of suspicion that he was grooming this dog, from a puppy age, to lick his junk. There had been things they heard, saw, and thought were very funky.
Upon looking into it, they found him in several chats that were linked to Zoophiles and bestiality. They advised me to stop associating with him, so I did.
To this day, I wouldn't be surprised if that guy was in those Zoosadist chats or something. That fucking terrifies me, because this guy had once (JUST ONCE) came over to my house when my family including a young child was there. I couldn't SLEEP when I found out. I thank fuck every time I think about it that he was never around that kid alone for ANY length of time, but I still feel so fucking guilty if I think about it, I sometimes feel nauseous about it. I'd have deserved the fucking CPS welfare check if anyone had called about it, I knew the shit he was saying was a little weird and I made a bad decision I'll never make again.
I find out a month later from someone that lived with him that a reason he got kicked out was because of a ton of suspicion that he was grooming this dog, from a puppy age, to lick his junk. There had been things they heard, saw, and thought were very funky.
Upon looking into it, they found him in several chats that were linked to Zoophiles and bestiality. They advised me to stop associating with him, so I did.
To this day, I wouldn't be surprised if that guy was in those Zoosadist chats or something. That fucking terrifies me, because this guy had once (JUST ONCE) came over to my house when my family including a young child was there. I couldn't SLEEP when I found out. I thank fuck every time I think about it that he was never around that kid alone for ANY length of time, but I still feel so fucking guilty if I think about it, I sometimes feel nauseous about it. I'd have deserved the fucking CPS welfare check if anyone had called about it, I knew the shit he was saying was a little weird and I made a bad decision I'll never make again.
You heard Growly fucked a 14 year old and bought his bullshit that "IT WAS A MISTAKE"
You don't fucking dissociate from nasty fuckos, rather intentionally, that much is clear.
As entertaining as this is, its also making me hope they threadban or character limit your stupid ass because this is pathetic.
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Well you're certainly doing your job today Mr. Sun
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Jesus christ all of you need to fuck already
This has become MATI: The Thread
This has become MATI: The Thread
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My two choices were my personal safety or her privacy. My personal safety wouldn't have ever been an issue had she not made private matters public to such a huge level that hundreds and hundreds of people knew her side of the story. So many hundreds of people were told it that even you heard about it. That says a lot about who was the one who started making private matters public.
Prove that I was flinging dirt. Set a date too. Good luck.
I couldn't care less. My personal safety is more important then any divorce trial. If an individual is contacting hundreds of people with their side of the story so much, that it causes a furmeet banishment, a death threat, telegram group banishments, mass blockings, and a doxing from the largest stalking forum in the world, then I would the greatest moron in the world to not respond to it.
While a good general rule of thumb is, you shouldn't talk about a divorce custody case publicly. But I don't think you will ever find a case of an individual spreading false rumors to MORE people in the history of any divorces. It's normal to talk to 10-20 friends in an inner circle, but it's literally over a thousand who have received it.
My personal safety was threatened as a result of me not addressing the mass slander. I won't stay silent about it ANY longer. My safety is almost more important then any trial.
All three of them told me personally they don't want any involvement after 2 of them experienced witness intimidation.
I am not into fucking cats.
Again, the #1 most popular fantasy of ALL woman is, to be raped. This is according to Louis H. Janda, an associate professor of psychology at Old Dominion University. If fantasy is intent then that means MOST woman are into being raped. You must be intellectually consistent.
If fantasy is intent then that means:
1. Most woman are into being raped.
2. I am into fucking cats.
Both statements are equally false because fantasy is not intent. Fantasy is simple an idea which turns someone on. You KNOW for a fact that most woman are not into being raped, so you must also conclude that I'm not into fucking cats.
The fantasy/intent connection is an intellectually dishonest and logically inconsistent equalization that you're obsessed with repeating just for Lulz.
No, I did not know he was sketchy. I told you, if someone says a group of rumors I will, by default, disregard them! I need proof or I will disregard all rumors. This fandom is obsessed with gossip and don't care about fact checking. The moment I found out the facts WITH the proof was July 2019.
I'll be glad to tell you exactly what he said. He told me he was asleep naked on a bed after a furmeet. He claimed a dog started licking his butt while he was asleep and then he was awoken by the horrified vocal reaction of an individual who saw him and assumed he was awake. And when he tried to explain that he was not fully awake they wouldn't listen to him. This is the story he told me. I told him "You need to be honest, tell them the truth! Tell them it was a misunderstanding!" He wasn't wanting to hear that because he appeared to be pessimistic. I tried to help him be optimistic.
Legally I don't have any control over my kids well-being. I've repeated this, I don't mind repeating this again: Literally every single aspect of this divorce has been out of my control from the beginning. That's not me acting helpless, that's me being honest. I'm very proactive.
And if I cared so much about my self-image then why did I interview Ryan Hill and Foxler? I knew they were some of the most hated individuals in the fandom and that it would destroy my self-image by talking to them. I didn't care. I wanted to know why people were talking about them so much! I got at least 2-3 people saying "YOU DAMN NAZI!" for interviewing Foxler. I asked 2 of them "Did you listen to the interview?" and they replied "I DIDN'T BUT YOU'RE A NAZI!"
I don't care if people don't like me. I'm a people-pleaser and one of the most pleasing things to do is to BE HONEST.
One of my favorite quotes is by Honest Abe: "No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar". And, while I don't have a great memory, I'm good at being honest. I haven't lied once in this thread.
I said I called them and they said they can't do much without a police report. I have no police report. I didn't fill out a CPS report. I plan to do it on Monday.
... you are right. Shit. You're right. I've been putting what my ex wants ABOVE my kids needs. You have no idea how much ... inspiration this has given me. I'm almost mad no one gave me this advice earlier.
I have about 50-100 conversations a day. Usually they're with different folks.
How about you do you. I think conformity is for squares.
Illiterate? I wrote a musical and it was very positively received. Try again troll.
But I already said I totally believed both Kalus 2011 and Growlys 2016 sob-story. It wasn't a lie, I GENUINELY believed Growly when he said he did no crime and that his ex was doing nasty stuff while he was asleep and he was just a victim of the neglectful justice system. And I'm not the only one who believed this lie, it's posted on his WIKIFUR. If you participate as a volunteer or staff of ANY fursuit games of any major con in the past 20 years YOU DON'T HAVE A CHOICE: you have to end up associating with Growly. It's not a lie. It's simple a furry-con-volunteer-staffing enigma.
Nobody told me about his conviction. I heard it from GROWLY himself in 2016. And thats when he gave me the sobstory I believed about him sleeping while his ex-mate did a crime. I was fooled by Growly and Kalu. Sorry! I don't come to conclusions about ANYONE until I have hard evidence.
The chatlog from Growly I found out in 2019 from KiwiFarms was HARD evidence that he was bullshitting. The witness testimony in regards to Kalu I found in July of 2019 was HARD evidence that he was bullshitting. Before that, I had no hard evidence. (And if I did, it doesn't matter. I never left my kids alone with ANYBODY other then my ex)
Amazingly, the excuse that I believed from both Growly and Kalu were the exact same: "I was asleep and falsely accused because I was a victim of circumstance!"
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice.. well it's a shame two fools fooled me with the same damn excuse. And I admit, I was a fool to be fooled twice. But thats why HARD evidence and being made aware of that ASAP is so important to making effective public warnings.
No more then what's in the general population. Statistics don't lie.
Now why the hell do I have to depend on KIWIfarms to learn about this? Can't we have some sorta warning system or something? For example:
Bad artists is to https://en.wikifur.com/wiki/Artists_Beware
As bad furries is to ____________?_______________
I've said a buncha times: Furries spread false rumors a lot. I am EASILY convinced with evidence. The very first time I saw hard evidence on Kalu or Growly WAS 2019. Hell, that's how it works in the real world. You see an article about someone doing a crime, it talks about evidence. In the fandom it's just "Yah, there isn't any evidence, but I heard _______". And honestly I'm JADED to the constant barrage of evidenceless accusations that they go in one ear, out the other.
That's why Patch's website is incredible, he names people AND shows evidence. Really important stuff.
I don't care. Someone lies about me online, I'll respond with the truth. If I can't respond, then this transforms from a forum into yellow journalism.
Yellow journalism - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
But be honest. If someone figured out how to dox you and then they posted a dozen false rumors, would you reply to clean up any misunderstandings?
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You are clearly just FREAKING THE FUCK OUT because, as you said, you used to hang out with Kalu and he had some BIG BAD SCARY EX with a military family. Get the fuck out of the thread if you do not like it and if you can't take the heat. Get out of the fucking FANDOM while you're at it if you're so worried about batshit insane furries doxxing you or harming you IRL over ridiculous internet drama involving dog fucking pedos.
Hell, call the fucking police if someone is threatening you or harassing you over having spilled some beans, that's not our problem.
I'm sorry you were dumb enough to have been friends with someone who draws child rape tentacle porn for probably way longer than you should've been and you can't come to terms with this, but screaming about how everyone who replies to Khord is worse to try and troll shield will do you NO favors.
If you didn't want this thread to get attention and you didn't want Khord to know who you are, should've not power leveled like a moron with stuff that directly identified you.
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I don't think Sneed is trollshielding. They really can't in this situation since Gabe will endlessly run his mouth even past the point that no one will listen.
Sneed's just saying to (ironically) catch your breath. As infuriating as the situation is, it's pointless to get MATI even though Gabe has been gaslighting everyone in this thread for over 2 weeks now.
Chill.
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A'ight, this thread was a fun read at first but I'm not skilled enough to handle this much concentrated autistic word vomit as of yet. It gets to the point where it's no longer funny, just really sad.
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Bull, they have been doing this "everyone in this thread is just MATI" every other post ever since more info started dropping. It's pretty clear what's going on with that from the context of "I'm afraid to talk about this because of Kalu and his ex and Deborah."
I can certainly understand it, given how insane everyone were talking at length about is, but this is a wake up call. Don't power level, next time, get offline after you drop your info VAGUELY if you think there's danger. No one's fault but theirs.