Gabriel Sickel / ThisIsGabe / KhordKitty / KhordiKit / Khordz / PianoKat / Xyniroz / Ghörfn / yiffyiff123 / Deborah Kay Butler / Buttercuppedbun - Deadbeat Wannabe-Actor MGTOW Pedo-zoophile - Divorced father of 2 sons. Tried grooming them as infants to be cub furries. Tried to groom a 17yo into sex. Ex-wife cucked him for a pedo. She took the kids. He fucked the family dog. His mom likes horse cock

Is Gabe the new SnakeThing?

  • Yes

    Votes: 65 12.2%
  • No

    Votes: 37 7.0%
  • He's going to be the new Prison Meat

    Votes: 430 80.8%

  • Total voters
    532
Just in case you're wondering why Gabe's back:

Salem (who I only recognized because they wrote a rather scathing callout post about Growly) completely fucking snapped on Gabe
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Someone else finally told Gabe to fuck off
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He repeated the rhetoric he spewed earlier on one of his callout threads
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Someone's finally learning to DFE (if only marginally) so anytime you see Gabe sperging off-site, be sure to archive that shit asap
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And here's some screenshots where Gabe tries to strike up a conversation on tweets that are 3+ years old, showing this dude legit obsessively Google's himself to no end
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Archive

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Archive
 
Someone's finally learning to DFE
No no, that was referring go my post where I said the highly controversial opinion that I thought police shouldn’t be shoved into oncoming traffic using someones legs.

HOLY CRAP did I get the triggered coming in droves acting like it was the most extremist opinion on the internet. Like, holy f***ing crap.

I blocked Cani Lupine a few years back for saying he supported cop killers. NOW THE WHOLE DAMN FANDOM SUPPORT THEM TOO! And Cani is by no means a trendsetter, yet here we are!

Salem (who I only recognized because they wrote a rather scathing callout post about Growly)
Triggered because I was trying to promote anti-bestiality laws. Note to self: Some furries are really NOT ALL ABOUT THAT. I swear a goddamn zoophile defender tried to white knight someone in my Pms. I had no idea these people lurked in ever goddamn corner.

Just today a pro-zoophilia activist watched me on Twitter. LOOK AT WHAT YOU STARTED KIWIFARMS? How many weirdos must you attract?
 
Triggered because I was trying to promote anti-bestiality laws. Note to self: Some furries are really NOT ALL ABOUT THAT. I swear a goddamn zoophile defender tried to white knight someone in my Pms. I had no idea these people lurked in ever goddamn corner.

Just today a pro-zoophilia activist watched me on Twitter. LOOK AT WHAT YOU STARTED KIWIFARMS? How many weirdos must you attract?
So, what kind of peanut butter works the best?
 
This is like smoking for 30 years and then blaming the Dr. when you get lung cancer.
As I said, none of my actions caused this threat to happen. Obviously if the accusations were true they’s be poor judgement calls, but so far there is zero dates attached the any of them.

I’m proud for the fact I got allll meh text messages, facebook, and telegram messages all screen capped for the past 5 years. It’s the best proof in the world that every accusation came from someones imagination.

I have zero control over false rumors and slander yet all of you expect me to somehow prove they’re false when they have no DATE attached? not even a time range! It’s dumb.
 
I feel heavily inclined to believe gabe has a narcissistic personality disorder. Just look at the way he goes on about himself and believes he has no flaws/can't possibly be the reason for the hate.

He's literally just going "me me me me! I starred in this! I was on TV! Look at all these people lying about me! Nothing is my fault! I'm perfectly in the right! I have over 10,000 friends! Did I mention I was on tv???"
 
Part 5: Financial Situations

I asked Gabe who's name was on the deed to the house in Oakdale. Even though Gabe should have been able to easily answer it & would have something to brag about, he chose not to for some bizarre reason.
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Deb, despite seeing how much of a deadbeat loser Gabe was, made the foolish decision to allow him to sign onto the paperwork when closing for the house.

That's why when she filed for divorce & tried to have him evicted, it failed. Even though he's not paying any bills on this property himself, he still has legal claim to it simply because Deb let the monkey sign the dotted line. As a result, she's apparently filing for bankruptcy & he may be ordered to pay child support + arrears soon.
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Gabe's Wages

There are 2 possibilities with this statement:
  1. He' lying in order to make himself feel superior to everyone OR
  2. Gabe's committing fraud. More on this later
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For now, keep in mind that Gabe claims he makes $5,200/m

Oh, pardon. That's " pre-taxes "
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And before anyone asks, no. Gabe does not know the difference between Net & Gross pay.
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I can not stress this enough that I highly doubt Gabe is earning this much IDEPENDENTLY. Reasons being:
  • He has a shitty degree in Music Composition that he hasn't effectively used since he left Washington Heights
  • His work history is spotty
  • The work history he DOES have is mostly manual labor temp jobs or background acting gig work
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I would like to add that Gabe claims he works on luxury vehicles. He won't tell you where he works because he doesn't want to get fired but it's pretty obvious based on his location, he works at the Fremont Tesla plant. He stated he works as a forklift operator but I doubt that because
  1. I doubt he's smart enough to actually work a forklift without seriously injuring himself and/or someone else
  2. You need to be certified in order to get a job as an operator (which AFAIK, he isn't) &
  3. He's said certain things across Telegram rooms that make me have strong doubts
As of August 5, 2021 though, we would receive definitive confirmation that he does work at Tesla after Gabe stupid posted to the Farms while on the job, using the company wifi
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Just to be clear for those who've never had to work jobs like this: Even though most manufacturing jobs (and even retail) claim that you need to be certified to do forklift work, if they're short-staffed, they will pull people from other departments and just give you a quick 10 min briefing on how to operate the machinery. This comment makes me think that's what's happening. Is it illegal? Yeah. Will companies do it anyways? Abs-o-fucking-lutely.
Source: I've been asked to do this before.
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No previous work experience in the last 4 years indicates that he was given a reason to seek training for forklift certification
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He more than likely works on the Assembly line as a Parts bitch is my guess

I know this was 1 of my bullets but I wanna drive this home. The majority of his publicly listed jobs in his work history were Seasonal Hires in Logistics or retail. Speaking as someone who's actually worked in those positions before, contracts usually range from 1-3 months, usually ending on or a few days/weeks after New Year's Day. If you look closely at the history, you'll see that AT MOST he worked 2 weeks at those jobs. Otherwise his employment length ranged anywhere from 1-5 days. Gabe would like you to believe that these were the true lengths of his contracts
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Be that as it may, let's see what his income is supposed to look like
Gabe's claimed position is that he's a Tesla Forklift Operator. These positions pay between $18-$20/hr.
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Given that most corporations will not pay someone the max pay if they're new to that position, let's assume that Gabe makes $18/hr. We have a rough estimate of the amount of time Gabe works thanks to this article
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Keep in mind that Tesla has had numerous complaints about paying their workers overtime and is (or was) facing a class action lawsuit due to not paying their workers OT
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Now that we have that info, let's calculate:
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Let's compare to what Gabe claims he makes (5,200 x 12 = 62,400)
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So even taking his word on where & how much he works, he's still off by $500+. For an accountant, that kind of discrepancy is not something to scoff at.

Now given we have all those figures, let's take a moment to remember that he also makes money via Renter's Income. This means his expenses are going to be significantly lower than someone only relying on one form of income. Keep this in mind as we move forward.
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The Oakdale House
Since we already have certain pieces of info about the house, I decided to see what their mortgage would look like

Downpayment: $44K
Loan: $358K
Interest Rate: 6.25%
Est. Monthly Mortgage Payment: $2906.60
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The Interest Rate is an odd note as that would usually signify 1 or both parties has shitty credit. Lo & behold, we didn't have to wait very long for an answer as Gabe supplied that info himself
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Apparently a mere $5K/yr (or $400/m) was enough to convince a bank that both Gabe & Deb could qualify for a loan that was well over 3.5x what they were originally rejected for. I don't buy it personally.

So what else is going on with the house?
Below are Telegram chats from various rooms & KF posts at various times. Will do my best to keep things in chronological order
KiwiFarms
August 3-10, 2019
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Modesto Furries
August 8, 2019
  • Deb moves out
  • Mortgage is $2,500/m
  • Gabe was working at K-Mart at the time making min wage ($12/hr)
  • Looking for roommates
  • House is 4br / 2588 sq ft.
  • Already has 3 roommates but wants 2 more
  • (Between the 4 of them already, this should mean he only needs to pay 625-725/m out of his 1594/m wage)
  • Master bedroom is already claimed (most likely for himself)
  • Said he may or may not sell the house 3 months down the line & move into an apt w/ the roommates
  • One of the mods of the room told Gabe that he felt uncomfortable about him advertising the rooms as he felt there was " something wrong " with the offer
  • Gabe can't refinance the home because he'd have to buy out Deb's part of the estate (which he can't afford)
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Bay Furs Area Chat
Aug 11, 2019
  • Gabe's trying to rent out half of his room
  • Wants to charge 400/m
  • Admits to having a tendency in selecting people who are " at-risk " or " in trouble "
    • We've already seen this in the Washington Heights saga when he tried to house a minor with substance abuse issues
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Oct 9, 2019
Gabe has his legal fees for court waived
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More info on fee waivers:
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TL;DR You have to be broke, near broke, or are unable to care for your children due to court fees

Open Private Messages Group Chat
December 2, 2019
Gabe starts work at Tesla
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Dec 5, 2019
Due to the proximity of his work, Gabe starts spending more time at his father's house
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Dec 9, 2019
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Jan 7, 2020
Apparently he's already renting out his bedroom at the house. Seems to be living with his father full-time?
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Feb 23, 2020
  • Tries asking for advice on refinancing the mortgage again
  • States that his income is $5300/m
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March 5, 2020
(Wicked Chicken Chat)
Appears that this is when Gabe's father finally started helping him look for a car
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March 25, 2020
(California Furries [SFW])
Gabe appears to be trying to get people to cosign on the property. Apparently none of his friends trust him & he blames that on Deb alienating him from his friends for the past 4 years. I personally don't buy it. He had more than enough opportunities to see his friends - he just was too fat and stupid to go get a license
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March 26, 2020
Can't afford child support but he can afford furry art
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April 1, 2020
Furloughed during COVID outbreak
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This lines up with the plant furloughs at Tesla around the same time of year
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Also noteworthy as everyone in those plants took a pay cut from then until the end of August
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So if Gabe is only making $1 above min wage in CA ($13/hr), then his paycheck went from $1725/m to $1554/m.

May 2, 2020
(California Furries [SFW])
At least one of his current roommates were hostile towards him. Thinks they're going to steal his stuff
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May 12, 2020
(From Bay Area chat)
Tesla Furlough ends. Was attempting to supplement his income at the time with gig work
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May 22, 2020
(California Furries [SFW])
Tire blowout on his car that he's had for 2 months at this point, meaning that he got the car in March
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Oct 9, 2020
Gabe's working 58hr/w
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Oct 25, 2020
DM from @AConcernedThirdParty2020 who was in contact with Deb
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Oct 28, 2020
A hearing that was meant to determine whether or not Gabe would pay Child Support was cancelled due to Gabe telling Judge Cassidy that he was unemployed
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Around this time as well, Deb accused Gabe of concealing his income from the judge
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Nov 3, 2020
Working 66 hours a week
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Nov 19, 2020
70 hour work week is normal as it's crunch season for most retailers / manufacturers. He's also apparently paid $15K in legal fees thusfar, which puts him just shy of paying $1K/m (assuming you calculate for July 2019 - Nov 2020)
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Jan 18 - 22, 2021
Can't afford Child Support but he can afford several hundred dollars worth of custom VRChat model rigs? He deleted the 1st tweet before I could get it archived but a reply to the tweet was still available
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Here's how much that person was charging
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I also snooped through his recently followed list at the time and checked profiles
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Archive
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March 3, 2021
Deb, having actively lurked the thread in order to scrape evidence to use against Gabe, more than likely tore Gabe a new one in court
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The entire reason I'm documenting his work history is because during a hearing on Oct 28, 2020, Gabe lied to Judge Cassidy and claimed he was unemployed. As we can all clearly see, he was still working and earning a passive income via renting out the home
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Another note is that apparently Deb had people who lived in the house with Gabe snitching on him. She claimed she had evidence of him housing 12 random furries in the house, one of whom was a meth addict living in a closet. Haven't seen that yet so while I can believe Gabe would cram a shit ton of people in the house and that some of them are probably on drugs, I'd like to see proof before saying anything definitively.
On top of Gabe admitting that he's specifically targeting vulnerable people to live in his home, the thing that bothers me with him potentially cramming a dozen people into that home is the fire hazard that would propose. California doesn't have any hard-set rules on occupancy limits but here's an article I found outlining it anyways
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In a nutshell, it seems that Gabe was repeating the antics from the Washington Heights saga where he slammed a shit ton of people into the home in order to charge for rent at a rather ridiculous price in order to gain supplemental income. That income was more than likely being used to finance his current legal fees as well as to potentially facilitate his lifestyle in the future. What makes the situation so much worse this time around is that he's already heavily involved in the legal system due to his divorce. Lying about income to the judge handling your divorce case is NOT a good look.

At any rate, the last update on the home arrives on Oct 7, 2021, when the property was finally sold for $492.5K USD. As it currently stands, the property is currently being rented out by Zillow for nearly the exact same estimated mortgage that Deb was paying for initially. Zillow renting out the property is interesting for its own reasons but is mostly irrelevant to the plot at hand.
From Califurs Socal/Norcal Telegram Group, Oct 9, 2021:
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Zillow listing
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Deb would only receive half of the profits from the home's selling, meaning that Gabe would receive the other half
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Non-Existent Assets

Now as far as his assets go, he has / had 3 things going for him:
  1. The original fursuit. That was the only substantial piece of property he's ever owned that we know for a fact he paid for with his own earnings. Even if he hadn't " lost " the original suit, the value would be next to nothing due to how poorly he kept it. Since that suit is destroyed, he " lost " the other replacement suit, and the remaining pieces of the partial suit he currently has were a gift, the property has no real value
  2. The RV. This was sold some time ago but considering the absolute fucking state it was in (water damage, mold, more than likely pest damage, ect.) it most likely didn't sell for much. I certainly wouldn't fucking pay a hefty penny for that piece of shit in a can. The funny thing is we don't even know who bought the RV originally so I can't even say definitively that this is even Gabe's asset. We do. It was Deb. Color me not surprised
  3. The Car:
Gabe DOES have a car but considering he doesn't know basic facts such as--
  • What is a Title
  • What are Emissions testing
  • Where his owner's manual even is
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-- I'm betting SOLID money that Gabe doesn't actually own the vehicle. More than likely, Gabe's father bought it, signed his name EXCLUSIVELY on the title, and just lets his poorly developed crotch fruit use it.
Jan 1, 2020:
This is 100% what happened.
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Remember though, this is the same father whom Gabe has bad mouthed up & down all over the internet. Yet by his own account, this man is paying for:
  1. The car (presumably the payments, maintenance, & insurance)
  2. His Attorney for the custody dispute
  3. The mortgage
This poor fucking bastard is on the hook just because he let out the wrong nut in another nut. None of this is cheap. We don't have estimates for the monthly cost of the car and the attorney but considering Gabe comes from wealth, I can only assume it's only the best for the gigantic fucking man-baby. Outlining this as now Gabe's trying to claim
Yeah no, nvm. Gabe's dad is a degenerate like him and I don't feel sorry for him at all
 
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Yeah, he's pretty full of himself for no reason. Since I'm here though, I just wanted to answer my own question which I asked Gabe well over 10 pages ago.

I asked who's name was on the deed to the house in Oakdale. Even though Gabe should have been able to easily answer it & would have something to brag about, he chose not to for some bizarre reason.
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Deb, despite seeing how much of a deadbeat loser Gabe was, made the foolish decision to allow him to sign onto the paperwork when closing for the house.

That's why she hasn't been able to evict him. Even though he's not paying any bills on this property himself, he still has legal claim to it simply because Deb let the monkey sign the dotted line.

My advice personally is that she stop paying for the mortgage and let Gabe's father foot the entire bill. I'm sure if Mr. Sickel had yet another bill produced by his deadbeat son, it honestly might push him over the edge and he'll (hopefully) finally cut the fat.
Will it ruin her credit when the property is inevitably forclosed on? Absolutely.
But she can pay it off again and inflict damage on Gabe (& his family) at the same time.
She's going into debt anyways handling the attorney fees, the rent for her new place, childcare, & other living expenses. She's already said on more than one occasion as well that she believes Gabe's family is trying to win the dispute via attrition (ie trying to financially bleed her dry with costly legal fees). I don't see the point in fighting a multi-front battle when she has no real benefit in that property anymore.

Now all of that being said, I would like to point out something to the lot of y'all which, while the concept has certainly been danced around a bit, it hasn't been solidified.

This dude is 34 years old, he has no real assets to speak of that he's earned on his own, and he's not even earning 1/3 of what someone in his age bracket earns. In fact, in case you're curious about what Gabe's monthly take-away is, I've taken the liberty to do the math. And no, it's nowhere near what Deb projected in that angry e-mail. Dunno where she pulled that number from.

CA's minimum wage is $12/hr. Gabe claims he works full time, which is 36-40 hrs/wk. Let's go with the high estimate and just assume he works 40 hrs/wk.

12 x 160 (40x4 = 160 hrs/mo) = $1,920
1,920 x 12 = $23,040 annually.

But don't forget, we have the taxes! According to a state tax calculator I found, this is the re-worked monthly income of Gabe. And before anyone asks, no, the area code doesn't make a difference:
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So now we have a reworked $1,604 x 12 = $19,248 / yr. I'm not even going to get into Union Dues (since those take out a good chunk of change too if you have to pay into that).

We're assuming though that Gabe is working the maximum hours of full time, every week, every month, for a full year. We know this isn't the case though because he's too busy sulking with his non-existent 10,000 friends online about his dead marriage.

And for those wondering what people in his age group are making, you can read this:
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As far as his assets go, he has / had 3 things going for him:
  1. The original fursuit. That was the only substantial piece of property he's ever owned that we know for a fact he paid for with his own earnings. Even if he hadn't " lost " the original suit, the value would be next to nothing due to how poorly he kept it. Since that suit is destroyed, he " lost " the other replacement suit, and the remaining pieces of the partial suit he currently has were a gift, the property has no real value
  2. The RV. This was sold some time ago but considering the absolute fucking state it was in (water damage, mold, more than likely pest damage, ect.) it most likely didn't sell for much. I certainly wouldn't fucking pay a hefty penny for that piece of shit in a can. The funny thing is we don't even know who bought the RV originally so I can't even say definitively that this is even Gabe's asset.
  3. The house. As we've previously established, while Gabe's name is on the deed, he never made any real investment into the property with his own money. Should Deb wise up and just let the property go into foreclosure, it would be a disaster for Gabe's family. Not Gabe, because he's an overgrown toddler that's never had to take responsibility for anything in his entire life, just his parents.
There's really not anything else I can think of which he owns that had any value to it so someone can point me in the right direction if they think of anything. Can't use any of the electronic devices since he's already said he didn't buy those (Deb did) and he doesn't have his own car.
Deb lurkin rn:
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Why are people afraid of KiwiFarms? I don’t get it. It’s just a group of trolls lying about people to create drama.

How is that a bad thing?

There is no power to that.
Why don't you run along and go take care of your kids? If the farms have no power over you, why do you tarry and remain here with us? Is there no one better to spend your time with because you push anyone decent away? This is what I mean. If you weren't such an ineffectual and absentee parent, you wouldn't have the time or desire to fart around on KF instead. That goes for you too, Deb. Why don't you two close the fucking tab for once and prioritize the real people around you? Most parents would consider having children a gift not to be taken for granted.
 
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You’ve said I don’t have an income, a car, a job, and that I was a New York film student.

Whenever I correct you, you claim I’m lying. So answer a question for me:

Do you genuinely want me to post on this thread and why?
No one is making you do this, dumbass.

Why don't you step away from thr keyboard once in a while and try to scrape together any reputation you can?
 
Why don't you step away from thr keyboard once in a while and try to scrape together any reputation you can?
I don’t care about my reputation. If someones judgement of me is based on some lies from some internet trolls, ain’t my problem.

I just find it funny you trolls don’t even know how to say if you’re hungry or not.
 
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