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Will the 4chan hack be the end of it?

  • Yes, goodbye forever 4chan

    Votes: 1,035 18.5%
  • No, they will rise from the ashes, stronger than ever

    Votes: 345 6.2%
  • This will rattle them but it will be forgotten about next week

    Votes: 2,337 41.7%
  • I am just here for the janny phonebooking

    Votes: 1,096 19.6%
  • What the fuck is 4chan

    Votes: 220 3.9%
  • Yotsuba&!

    Votes: 573 10.2%

  • Total voters
    5,606
Has it been confirmed 4chan has a lot of bots posting replies or no?
Well who the fuck is going to use it now with a 900 second timer or an account requirement other than:
>bot users
>shills
>glowniggers
The amount of hivemind there now is ridiculous. It's just fucking astro turf central now. It's like Hiro wants it to be a sacrificial node for spam now. And yet none of the other chans are used. People are too put off 8chan (for historical reasons), lain is ran by brony, endchan is just... endchan and still cancer, all the other chans that existed have been targeted for CP spam and taken out by what I am assuming is either glowniggers or shit like discord troons or political shit or something (I still remember shareblue and the leaks that proved they were hiring people to target such sites - do you?).

Why hasn't null started one? That could get rid of all of these garbage chans instantly and cause a mass exodus of the remaining legit users?
I don't see who else has the capability at this stage other than some rich fuck somewhere for the sake of his corporation's intel or some shit.
It's not like he's unfamiliar with chans? He started at 8chan. (btw has Jim fucking trooned out or is that just him trolling?)

Reddit is still shit.
Discord is groom central and immediately you will be banned for saying anything remotely "controversial".
Apart from fucking BBS or darker places, which are slow as fuck, there's not much else other than maybe games forums from 2002.

All I know is that I hope Hiro has a doxx at this stage. He is selling 4chan out worse than he did 2ch by far, we were warned.
 
Been years since I've been on 4chan. It's so edgy, it's hilarious. As long as you aren't a member.
It hasn't been edgy since like 2016 when chans were targeted by banks and political relations firms in order to pacify it's effect on things like the market. I think Covid and Gamestop killed it the most though. Since then it's been completely downhill.

But personally, the moment you couldn't use TOR to post on it without some browser shenanigans to get around the captcha was the moment it stopped being anonymous and just became "anonymous to the unsophisticated public". Cops(and military OPSEC) and people with data profiling mechanisms can work around your "anonymity" on there because you can't change the IP easily, especially so with the 900sec timer. So real posters saying edgy shit get profiled and banned while shills and enforcement get away with it because they have resources to work around it and the leverage of money. Money now makes you the most anonymous nowadays. If you don't have money, you're a technocratic serf that has no ability to mask themselves.

So to me, this is basically the end of the public anonymous internet. Sure it was never truly anonymous to an extent, but nowadays it's absolutely not anonymous for people that don't have tools and sophistication. Mainly lawyers and money.

Covid was the biggest pusher for this. There was health protocol, lobbied largely by pharma and insurers to get rid of "disinformation". As we all know, that was just a lie to remove anonymity on the internet and leverage major corporations so that information about their snake oil products never gets through. In particular, pharma began to invest heavily into tech and things connected to the MIC (military industrial complex) to the point where it became the MIC.
That is how bad the state of affairs and the internet it. People are STILL in denial about this but it's literally a google away (for now, don't count on it being that way in the future given how badly Google is ruining it's SEO nowadays).

See this bloomberg report on how government money is spent nowadays.

If you look at the rankings, you'll notice a large amount of pharma related firms in the top 50 or so that are also now leveraged in tech, marketing and other aspects of the MIC. You know the game Cyberpunk? Well our reality is probably already worse than that. This has happened since 2020. 5 years we went from same old internet to hell on earth internet. That's why some CEOs and related heads of corporations are dying or disappearing for mysterious reasons (like that yacht that sank with a bunch of admins in Italy a few months ago). You had they Luigi guy shoot an admin the other day. I wouldn't be surprised if that dude had some odd connections.

This isn't even going into things like public relations firms and other security firms and the general mechanics of big data. But if you look at it generally from this ranking, it's not a good picture at all. You could be talking a ridiculous amount of people leveraged by this bullshit nowadays. Millions of people.
 
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merely a coincidence btw.
 
I am so tired of the schizo ouroboros every board has become. Even if you do expose a schizo, what can you even do about him? What is the desirable outcome here? Jannies usually don't give a shit and even if they do ban a schizo, bans mean nothing on 4chan. Even rangebans seem to mean jack shit if a schizo is determined enough. I remember on the Guild Wars 2 General on /vg/, they had some drama where someone was kicked from their guild. So he set up numerous bots to post complete nonsense in the general and rendered it unusable for years. The jannies couldn't do a thing to stop him.
Oh this reminds me of the Gore/Scatschizo from the Fire Emblem threads. The archives are full of his disgusting behavior. He also spammed /v/ threads, so people had to disguise Fire Emblem threads until he just left.
 
There are definitely a couple schizos who 100% exist, but not only are they over diagnosed, the actual schizos will accuse anyone calling them out of all being one schizo, further feeding into this and muddying the water. Jannies also straight up protect the real schizos, because they know when they derail shit, it causes a lot of posts, and therefore more adbux. There's one in particular where there's a 50/50 chance you'll be slapped with a 30 day ban if you call him out, despite the fact he's doxxed himself a half dozen times and is literally a tripfag. Board's become an unusable cesspit of the janny's retarded shitflinging pets derailing threads, retards throwing shit back at the shitflingers, which further derail threads, and jannies banning the people who got mad about the initial shitflinging rather than the shitflingers who started it.
That smells like that fucktard on /a/ that spams CSM threads. There's dedicated autism like that swimming amongst genuine corporate fucking faggotry and glowniggers that I guess is just there to plant uncertainty about the whole thing. I wonder if it's legit autism, like cum in bottles autism, or just something done to lead people into a false sense of security (i.e. makes them assume it's just trolling and autism). Thing is, when you call them out, they will do shit like spam nigger dicks or just ban you (because perhaps there is a janny on that board that is encouraging or leveraging this fucking garbage) for nonsensical crap. Sometimes it's because you're going "wtf is this an ad" on a thread. Even some anons point out their "names" (like microdick) on those threads.

See pic for just an example of the bullshit.
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That's how dedicated the trolling is and how long it's been going on there. That's not the only sort of thread for it. You see it on other boards. Normally it's when the media content is "thunk-provoking" because I think the goal is to fuck up their legit fanbase and ruin any marketing momentum they get. Or maybe it's just so that you bump the thread (I used to think this, but seeing several media products become psyop'd messes from this shit now makes me think it's a marketing strat to fuck up a competitor's audience and creators through their social media - remember devs and authors also fucking lurk such threads on occassion, I bet that makes theses threads a go to target to fuck with these devs and authors). Next time it happens, I'm posting it on here. I refuse to believe that is mere trolling because it's been done for YEARS and started just after covid (though some even before, it's just covid made media corps aware of this strat with marketing I think). It just reeks. Then again, maybe they see the content and just see an opportunity to gaslight those threads for some reason.

That being said, you only have to look at the troon ads on 4chan to know what's really going on there. An aside, I wonder what Keffals is doing nowadays? I wonder how many keffals like trolls there are, how many groomers (more trooners) there are. I know that some like to congregate like a cult around specific ecelebs and their groomcords. I know this because they started spamming their eceleb shit on /v/. Things like twitch streamers. Rat king central those fucking dungeons. A lot of them are heavily involved in psychology, statistics and marketing. They even got mad in one that I asked questions about in when they made it clear it was their career choice. A lot of the times they will fuck with the streamer until they become their play thing. Clearly it's their job, if not they're just a true parasite that loves to attach themselves to these sorts for their own power and/or income. Twitch is fucking cancer for that shit btw. They don't like it when you disturb their "sheep" and make them question the streamer or moderators. They need those sheep because it's their income. It's like fucking Jonestown that shit.

I wonder how much is astro-turfing and opsec though. I really do. I know there is a rediculous amount of money and people in that sort of industry.​
 
Almost every board on the site is seeing a decline in usage, and the 5 boards that aren’t dying remain stagnant. Boring hobby boards such as /cgl/ are among the boards that fell off the hardest.
/mu/ is nothing but the kpop general now since the pretentious hipsters and indie listeners left a long time ago. Everything else on there is dead.
 
/mu/ is nothing but the kpop general now since the pretentious hipsters and indie listeners left a long time ago. Everything else on there is dead.
Fuck me, don't even remind me of /mu/. It's been depressing since like 2010 or so when Kanye spam happened. That album was fucking mediocre trash and it was just getting spammed like hell and people just thought it was legit. Like hell it was. But it's much much worse now. Started with Kpop, then you had shit like beatles, 100 troon gecs and shit like that being spammed to high hell. For a small amount of time it was still coping with the spam until the Kpop shit started. Then it rapidly declined. I got banned for pointing out how fucking fake and astro'd those threads were. At that time though, we still had 8ch thriving before it got completely fucked up around 2016ish (though it was already iffy by 2015).

It seems people moved on to account media, but honestly that shit is even worse, because you point out astroturf and they'll ban you from forums. Especially discord. It doesn't help that they spiral into manic depressive episodes as hiveminds go. I kinda try them, give up, then try them when I get tired of bullshit astro crap on anonymous media again. I fucking loathe account media and banhammers. Either use them correctly and consistently or don't fucking use them at all. Have we not learnt from Snacks?

The troll (one of many) trying to get "meltdowns" in chans is probably like me and legit sees this phenomena on many forums because we've been on these places since the times when causing this shit was literally the fun of forums (and got old for me quick). I still think that cunt is a cancerous cunt though. You'll be having a legit discussion and then he or another troll will get bored. I eye-roll and just leave it alone nowadays. That's all you can do. I know some people IRL that browse these places and I know exactly their type because they are not too dissimilar in real life. But those are anomalies on the forum nowadays. There's legit fucking commercial shit nowadays because they try to inject their marketing shit into memes subtly in order to get some memetic momentum with their viral marketing.​
 
For a small amount of time it was still coping with the spam until the Kpop shit started
The kpop general was always bad, but at least in the past they discussed music, much smaller and other generals were still fast. There was always drama and anons would feel attacked if you said anything bad about their favorite gook. The coomers then quickly became the majority which were shortly followed by the pedophiles. The funny thing is I remember how much they hated each other there, but they never felt the urge to make separate threads en masse like now. Maybe there was some retard who tried to make a SNSD thread and failed that I'm forgetting, but Christ, they made like six generals now.
 
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Covid culture again... What a load of shit.
It just doesn't stop. I get fucking so sick of this shit. OPSEC is one fucking google away and 99% of people will NEVER do it. It's not just the military using it. It's a fucking marketing strat. Has been for decades. Speaking of google, for once /g/ had a decent thread on this sort of shit (see pic below).
Good luck even finding a wiki article on shit. If these corps deny the existence of something, Google will just pretend it doesn't exist. It doesn't really return all the billions of articles it says it found anymore. In fact it probably never did.

Anyway, covid helped leverage this shit. Often you had NGOs recommending it as a course of action of "safety reasons" during covid. Fuck off, safety my ass. This sort of misinfo strategy is probably killing more people than ever before. These corps are so leveraged legally, you can't really question their info at times or their grooming of info. This is web 2.0, becoming web 3.0 as DRM is leveraged into this shit. DRM is just "our racket says this is legit because we agreed so". That's it. If you whistleblow against such a thing, web 3.0 will deny it's proliferation on the internet. This is the internet we are stepping into. Soon, if you are marked specifically, your posts won't even appear to others. I have a feeling this already happens on some forums, facebook definitely has algorithms to hide "problematic" content and negatively skew it. So at some point some people get nothing but ads and shit and not even their friends posts. Its funny how that happened to me on fb, I just thought they hid themselves or something until I checked my family member's feed and it was just like old fb. I did some fuckery with scripts on fb (just greasymonkey) and I got it back to normal again for a while until fb readjusted itself somehow. I'm not sure how, but if you keep tweaking with shit, the algorithm get's "very confused".

Oh sorry, this is "doomposting" according to the sources in this pic:
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/cgl/ lamenting the decline of their board’s activity:
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Almost every board on the site is seeing a decline in usage, and the 5 boards that aren’t dying remain stagnant. Boring hobby boards such as /cgl/ are among the boards that fell off the hardest.
4chinz acting like they're oh so superior to KF will never not be funny. Sometimes discussions on this site are indistinguishable to threads on 4chan. But they have to insist that they're better than KF because... 4chan is the infamous Internet Hate Machine and Kiwi Farms is just some lame forum for discussing e-celebs? Even though 4chan also loves e-celeb gossip threads and discussion whenever they're able to have it before it gets swept up and boards like /v/ or /g/ are not that much different than this site's off-topic boards like Games or Internet & Technology when actual discussion and not standard thread shitting takes place.

That's about it, 4chan has more noise than signal due to how easy it is to shit things up there compared to KF and has rampant degeneracy, but the core on-topic audience is essentially the same. If they were to move here all at once they'd fit right in and have a better time, and that would leave 4chan with only the worst of the worst, pure noise and zero signal. It's some twisted sense of platform loyalty that makes them insist they're different and better than KF.

The first response anon is this close to realizing that KF and 4chan userbases have more similarities than differences, but at the same time so far away from it.
 
The tranny schizo /vr/ moderator was away for some days and it was the nicest the board has been in years; anons being relaxed, cracking jokes, posting pepes without fear, good threads, good discussion, people allowed to express controversial views and disagree with each other. Now he's back and he's cracking the whip again. What a shame, I was getting my hopes up thinking he was demodded. It just shows the main problem of the site is the moderation.
 
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