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[seri0us]

I wonder what the feds think about photorealistic AI generated CP?

I bet they love it

 

[Punished Magician]

I've started chipping away at an outline for an OP rewrite in my spare time. It's not even at a point where it can be called a "draft" yet, let alone anywhere near postable, but I'm just kind of hammering out the basic structure and putting placeholder descriptions under each subsection.

The first half is more general information, like a basic overview of the site and its history, while the second half is more of a cowspotting field guide, going over different types of cowish threads and posters and where to find them (for example, generals and forced meme ritualposts as types of threads, and tripfags and "fake schizos" (people pretending to be posters like barneyfag) as types of posters.) For the latter, part of that includes a list of boards with cowish tendencies, and for that I need (You)r help.

Right now, my list is organized something like this:
Boards with a large percentage of cowish posters/tendencies; de facto lolcow boards
/vp/, /x/, /trash/, /lgbt/, /pol/, /r9k/, /b/, /v/
Boards that are not entirely cowish but home to potent or sizeable cow populations; side attractions
/co/, /g/, /tv/
Boards I am somewhat familiar with, but not enough to make a proper judgement on them yet, or boards which I highly suspect are cowish but do not know enough about; under consideration
/a/, /adv/, /vt/, /mlp/, /vg/, /jp/, /soc/, /tg/

I need suggestions for more boards. Whether it's one I haven't considered yet, or some pointers on the worst parts of boards that I'm mulling over, no one man can have a grasp on everything that happens on the site. I'm trying to keep things more general instead of focused on specific examples to keep the OP from being easily dated; imagine if the current one dedicated entire sections to "Those retards calling themselves kekistani" or "the underagetards spamming edits of that newfangled -oomer meme" or "that guy spamming the minions webm on /wsg/", none of which are relevant anymore (except maybe the second). Something like "This board has multiple threads dedicated to debating unironically over which namefag is the literal messiah, it's been like this for years" goes a longer way than "This board has this one retarded general that doesn't reflect the rest of the board and looks too forced to last more than another week".

I do also plan to include a section on specific notable threads/posters, but these are more focused on their reach outside of their containment zone and/or ability to metastasize into orbiting communities. Candidates so far are /blacked/, /dbs/, /hmofa/, /ptg/ (is it even still relevant? been a hot minute, will have to check), /ng/, the cluster of AI Image Generation threads across the entertainment/multimedia boards, and maybe /aicg/, alongside ecker and whatever bot is currently impersonating Lee Goldson/barneyfag.

Either way, for such a big thread that's been around as long as it has, I can't just let the OP stay as a funny meme screencap and nothing else.

 

[Jonah Hill poster]

At least Anon did not play Concord

 

[Pro. Memer]

I got curious regarding all the talk about AI image generation and took a look at a thread on /b/ called "AI DEGENerated Art and Porn" to see what sort of depraved stuff the new gen /b/tards were into. I discovered a bizarre mix of stuff. Everything from a strangely wholesome photorealistic girl with cat ears wearing a dress to typical anime style lolicon shit. Some of the pedo stuff was cartoony, but bordered on looking realistic.

Obviously this stuff isn't real, but I would imagine it will become a problem for Hiro before too long. I wonder what the feds think about photorealistic AI generated CP?

There's already been a few arrest from AI generated CP.
If I was a fed, I'd use it to poison the well. Either saturate the market, or also post some legal clothed ones into the wild, so they can be easily tracked. If they ever pop up on the clearnet, go after their sources. Basic stuff.
People that rape children deserve death.

 

[30+GameOvers]

@Punished Magician
/b/ should definitely go into tier 2: Kinda lolcowzy one. It's a shadow of it's former self, you're not going to find much milk there these days.
As for other boards:
>/a/ is prime lolcow material, they have unwarranted self importance about being le super duper originalfags, yet they're filled to brim with wannabe posers(like /b/ or /v/ are) and the moderation are troons. They deserve to be up there with the big boys, especially as I heard their post quality has been taking a nosedive lately
>/adv/ is dead, it's basically an edgier Yahoo answers where half the time you're told to kill yourself, regardless of what was being asked
>/vt/ is prime lolcow material, so much so in fact that it could deserve a tier all to it's own. We have a thread on them here. They are insane schizos of the highest caliber and have given us several homegrown lolcows like Chase. Single handedly killed /jp/.
>/mlp/ used to be prime lolcows but like /b/, they're a shadow of themselves now. Deserve a shared section along with Lee Goldson
>/vg/ is awful all around but just how awful depends on the thread and the day of the week. At best, you've got focused discussions about a game with trannies, redditors and normalfags hanging around while at the absolute worst it's a janny's own personal hangout thread where he deletes anything he doesn't like, or a thread is absolutely ruined by a schizo(s) whom the janny is too busy to deal with. Maybe select a few choice generals that are the worst and mention that half of the catalog is just anime gacha shit no other board wants
>/jp/ is another has-been board, at it's peak it was basically /b/ for weebs, now it's the caccoon that /vt/ came from, an empty shell of itself
>/soc/ is literally just a normalfag containment board way back when /b/ was still being slowly killed off by them. No idea what goes on there, probably a lot of self-dox and obnoxious namefags
>Not sure about /tg/ but I know quality has been going downhill over the years. Deserves to be with the "potential lolcows" group with the other hobby boards

Not sure who else to include off the top of my head. /qa/ obviously needs a section, /o/, /n/, /trv/ and /out/ are fun but niche little boards, we already have a prospering grounds thread for coomers/pedos but I guess /cm/(little boy thirsting) and /u/(yuri aka anime lesbians) deserve a mention for being potentially overlooked boards to look into.
Good luck with the re-write.

 

[Super Malario]

I frequently check /a/ and can confirm that it is an excellent example of a lolcow board, there's all types of schizos constantly shitposting while avatar fagging on any general thread, a great example of it is the shonen threads that always have multiple retards spamming pictures of specific characters (mostly women they have as waifus) and shit flinging with other anons.
In general, the board culture has deteriorated and the only remotely enjoyable threads are the storytime ones.

 

[Urgunt]

/vg/, /tg/

as a proud lurker and poster of both i think both have cowish tendencies but it entirely depends on what general you're in. idk if it's still around but the asymmetrical slasher games general is about as schizocow as you can get. particularly one tranny named basil kept shitting up the thread, spamming it with pictures of cocks split down the middle and dead african kids. mods would ban him but i guess he pays for 4chan plus so he gets off scot free. or he has a good VPN, idrk. Last I remember he was avatarfagging with some weeb shit

 

[whore loving dragon]

I frequently check /a/ and can confirm that it is an excellent example of a lolcow board, there's all types of schizos constantly shitposting while avatar fagging on any general thread, a great example of it is the shonen threads that always have multiple retards spamming pictures of specific characters (mostly women they have as waifus) and shit flinging with other anons.
In general, the board culture has deteriorated and the only remotely enjoyable threads are the storytime ones.

Every 4chan board about an artform (/v/, /tv/, /a/, etc) has degenerated because those things have degenerated. You can only have so much organic discussion about annual shovelware console games, annual superhero movies, annual isekai shit, etc.

 

[UERISIMILITUDO]

/vg/

I'm pretty sure just about every general there has a dedicated schizo.

 

[Dewey Decimal]

Every 4chan board about an artform (/v/, /tv/, /a/, etc) has degenerated because those things have degenerated. You can only have so much organic discussion about annual shovelware console games, annual superhero movies, annual isekai shit, etc.

Its also disappointing since /ic/, the art/critique board, is full of nothing but furfags, coomers, and wannabe twitter porn artists like the rest of the site. Except they openly post links to dead discord servers and admit to actively trying to kill board activity this way instead of being coy about it like most other boards. Original IP's could have been drafted there, but its sad to see that the wider internet is just like this regardless of the art platform.

Why the hell is seemingly everyone so addicted to porn these days and outright spiteful of anything that resembles human culture like a decent fictional story? The glowies just keep escalating to ever more militant forms of demoralization and doomfaggotry with their incoherent schizo botnets that only reply to each other whenever the jannies aren't going on a random banning spree on any given day. the likes of /vt/ and their bot colonies on smaller imageboards are great examples of that.

 

[Nagato Kai Ni Surigao]

Porn and coomers are the cancer that killed 4chan, Kiwifarms anti-porn yet adult culture is the most appealing aspect of the site to me. I had a trip booked so I decided to browse /trv/, the much overlooked travel board. Guess what, any activity that isn't fucking hookers is "touristy" and not worth discussing. Even the slow board with the high barrier to entry of not only leaving your house, but also leaving your country is affected by this plague.

 

[pajeetprideworldwide]

There's pretty much only one board I browse so I'll make a case for it, /pw/ is the wrestling board which was previously/asp/. I have been browsing it since early 2023 and it is filled with schizos who are constantly battling people who I am not even sure exist. The names that you are bound to come across are "bitchtits", "ojama", and "wolfie"(aka hogwheels I think). Speaking of wolfie, he was the guy who inadvertently led to the creation of the KWAB meme. The story goes that he would spam this image:

which comes from a promo by the wrestler Kevin Nash as wolfie was a fan of his. To combat this people came up with the story that Kevin Nash got raped in the sweltering hot summer of 1992 in an alley by approximately 14-21 black men, and would try to get the digits 92 which anons would then reply to with "KWAB" (kek what a bitch). This meme got so big that eventually Nash himself responded to it on twitter and on his podcast:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-841xGlAr_o

To combat this wolfie would come up with two unsuccessful memes, one of them being Deadie Guerrero got raped in 1989 (not sure about the year) and Daniel Bryan got raped in 2010 (which he spams to this day). Guerrero and Bryan were chosen because of Nash's dislike of vanilla midgets or short guys in pro wrestling. Wolfie is also supposedly a cripple and requires a wheelchair hence the name hogwheels (hog because fans of competing wrestling promotions are referred to as pigs or piggies). This is wolfie's twitter:

https://x.com/SoDuTw

He also goes by the name rovert which is just trevor backwards. Interestingly he got mentioned by Tony Khan who is the owner of AEW in a tweet:

There's a lot of lore I'm missing but I haven't been around long enough to know all of it. There might also be a few inaccuracies but I believe the above information is mostly correct.
You can also find a lot of infighting on the boards due to the WWE and AEW fans going after each other, weaponizing the live viewership numbers or match star ratings given by a long time wrestling journalist named Dave Meltzer. A lot of these threads involve one guy spamming the thread and replying to everyone.
I can't remember anything else at the moment so I'll edit the post when I do.

 

[3deadniggers]

Why the hell is seemingly everyone so addicted to porn these days and outright spiteful of anything that resembles human culture like a decent fictional story?

Says the poster with a borderline lolicon anime avatar wearing a corset..

Every board on 4chan is cow worthy. You won't find a single board without schizos posting all over it. Trying to tier them makes no sense since the generals are communities all of their own and everyone has a resident retard.

Does OP need rewriting? We don't even discuss the cows of 4chan. We shit on the site for still existing and mourn what's been lost.

 

[Urgunt]

Does OP need rewriting? We don't even discuss the cows of 4chan. We shit on the site for still existing and mourn what's been lost.

t. guy who's only exposure to 4chan growing up was greentext readings

holy fuck my sides

 

[Punished Magician]

Does OP need rewriting?

Yes? It's a few links to other threads (most are dead), and a handful of meme screencaps, most of which are too silly to have actually happened in real life. There's no basic overview or history, nothing about where the funny is, readers are just assumed to already know everything they need to. OPs are supposed to tell someone who's just hearing about it for the first time everything they need to know, cataloging important information about the cow(s) and emphasizing any entertaining eccentricities; they're not just meant to be a signpost for posters who are already deeply familiar with the subject to know where to direct their posts. The relationship between the KF and 4chan userbases due to heavy overlap isn't enough grounds to make this one an exception.

If the current OP was posted in Prospering Grounds today, it would have a 0% chance of being moved to a real board without heavy revision, and that's reason enough to rewrite it. The milk is so potent that there are multiple long-running threads dedicated to various subcommunities, splinter communities, posters and threads from 4chan, so why is the main thread not also important considering how much it's spawned?

We don't even discuss the cows of 4chan.

Speak for yourself. I've highlighted multiple specific standout posters/communities before, from the newfag cultists worshipping a stoner tripfag as literally being Jesus on /x/, to a mobileposter who thinks that every time a particular image is posted it must be by the same guy, and uses this line of logic to spam and derail threads on /v/ whenever he loses an argument. Other posters have done the same, off the top of my head there's been multiple mentions of a spammer from /m/ over the past few pages, and there was the Baskin Roberts guy earlier in the year.

We shit on the site for still existing and mourn what's been lost.

If your argument is that the thread is unimportant because it's currently just a place for jaded 4chan users to reminisce about the good ol' days instead of a place for genuine mockery, that's all the more reason the OP needs a rewrite. The OP doesn't do its job of introducing new users to the topic so that they're ready to hop into the discussion (like other threads do), so the only people who post here are those who are already familiar with the site and don't need the OP anyway. A proper OP would help bring in more people posting about actual cows.

If your point is instead that the thread should just be a place for 4chan users to talk about how they wish the site was better, I'll have to disagree there, too. This is a Community Watch thread, not an Internet&Technology or General Discussion thread. The focus on the main parts of the site are on taking the piss out of the subjects of the threads, not on being a hangout for members of the communities in question, where the only complaints are about things that get in the way of their sincere enjoyment of the site. It doesn't matter how culturally adjacent the site is to the Farms; there are no sacred cows here, only lolcows. My favorite example to use when someone accuses this site of being biased is that we have a thread for insane cult-like Trump supporters, but also one on insane Trump-obsessed haters, and even a thread on Donald Trump himself. This site is for laughing at anything as long as there's someone who wants to laugh at it, and anyone who doesn't want to laugh at it can just go find another thread that they do want to laugh at.

The kid gloves stay off for every thread here, and that should include this one—and I say that as someone who's used 4chan nearly half my life and honestly still prefers it to this place.

Every board on 4chan is cow worthy. You won't find a single board without schizos posting all over it.

"There's a deranged retard behind every blade of grass" seems more like an argument for giving this thread the effort it needs instead of an argument against it.

Trying to tier them makes no sense since the generals are communities all of their own and everyone has a resident retard.

Tiering them makes perfect sense if the focus is on finding content for the thread. cowanons are much more plentiful on, say, /vt/ or /vp/ than on /diy/ or /vr/, and spending the same amount of time on the former boards will produce much more milk than on the latter. If you think the quality of discussion between the former boards and the latter are even comparable, you've never used more than a single board on the site.
As for the generals being "communities all of their own," they are... until they aren't. There are certain games I simply cannot discuss on /v/ without an 80% likelihood of the thread being bombarded with copypastas and catchphrase spam from /dbs/, /blacked/, and/or /hmofa/, or even just the game's corresponding /vg/ thread, and sometimes the posters stick around to start thread-derailing arguments with other types of posters, other spamming generals, or even other members of their own general with differing tastes, whom they'll attack insincerely as a form of inside joke (I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT BEJITABRO VS GOKUGODS OR WHATEVER THE FUCK THE FRED FLINTSTONE DRAGON BALL CUCK COPYPASTA IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN, PLEASE JUST LET ME DISCUSS VIDYA)

And if it's still a bad idea after all of that, then when it hits PG mods can just say "nah we're keeping the old one" or "change this and that before it can replace the old one".

 

[Nigger Cobson]

For the /mu/ section of the OP rewrite, can the Jefre Cantu Ledesma schizo be included? Basically, this guy makes original copypastas depicting fictional scenarios about a soyboy who happens to listen to this obscure artist and his misadventures with his wife and his bull Tyrone, presumably a form of autistic seething towards Ledesma fans even doe no one listens to this guys music and the Ledesma schizo is probably the only /mu/tant who has. For more information, here's a link from the Soyjak Wiki (heres a 2023 archive of the article so that you don't have to fill out the stupid captcha. Btw I couldn't archive the current version). I'll include an example of this guys material, which is spoilered below.

Spoiler: Nah blud is talking like sephiroth in dis one 💀💀💀💀💀💀

>C’MON HONEY PUSH! PUSH! YOU CAN DO THIS! I CAN’T WAIT TO SEE THAT BEAUTIFUL FACE SCREAMING LIKE A NEWLY EVOLVED CHARIZARD!
>C’MON SHINY LITTLE YAKUB! YES! YES! I CAN SEE IT! IT’S, IT’S
>...
>what
>What?
>WHAT THE LE ACTUAL FUCK!?
>*Smashes Nintendo Switch OLED™ running Pokémon™ SV against floor in fit of anger*
>THIS IS A WH*TE BABY! WHAT THE FUCK! YOU BITCH! YOU LYING FUCKING CUNT THIS IS A WH*TE BABY WHAT THE FUCK HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE YOU WERE ONLY SUPPOSED TO SLEEP WITH TYRONE!!!
>YOU SCOOPED UP SOME OF MY CUM DROPS?! BECAUSE YOU WANTED A CHILD WITH THE MAN YOU LOVE? YOU TREACHEROUS NAZI ALT RIGHT INCEL CUNT!!!! I KNEW I SHOULD OF GOTTEN THAT VASECTOMY AT THE ANTINATDEX BOOTH AT THE VAUSH CONVENTION!!! I THOUGHT IT WAS SUSPICIOUS THAT YOU ARGUED AGAINST IT BUT I FIGURED IT WAS FINE BECAUSE I NEVER HAD SEX WITH YOU!!! I NEVER THOUGHT YOU’D STAB ME IN THE BACK LIKE THIS!!!
>WHAT DID I TELL YOU LAST YEAR AT THE APPLETUN PLUSHIES CONVENTION? I'M THE MOD OF HECKING /r/antinatalism! HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO BE THE REVOLUTIONARY VANGUARD IF MY INCEL REACTIONARY CUNT WIFE POPPED A FUCKING LAUGHING BOUNCING MATTE WHITOID CHUD NAZI INCEL BABY OUT OF HER CUNT!
>OH MY SCIENCE, I’M RUINED!!! YOU’VE RUINED ME YOU STUPID TWAT!!! MY WIFE GAVE BIRTH TO A WH*TE BABY!!! AND A BOY TOO!!! IF IT WAS A WH*TE GIRL I COULD AT LEAST LOOK FORWARD TO GIVING HER UP TO TYRONE ONCE SHE STARTED MENSTRUATING BUT I CANT DO THAT WITH A WH*TE BOY NOW CAN I? IM GONNA BE THE LAUGHINGSTOCK OF THE KEKOLD COMMUNITY NOW!!! THEY GONNA THINK I'M A FUCKING NAZI RETHUGLICAN NOW!!! THIS IS THE WORST DAY OF MY LIFE!!!
>GIVE ME THAT NAZI WH*TE BABY RIGHT NOW IM GONNA BREAK ITS FUCKING NECK!!!! I’M GONNA SMASH THAT WH*TE FUCKING BABYS FUCKING SKULL UNDERNEATH MY LET'S GO PIKACHU AND EEVEE LIMITED EDITION FLIPFLOPS!!!! GIVE IT TO ME YOU LYING NAZI CUNT OR ILL CUT YOU A NEW HOLE IN YOUR FUCKING THROAT!!! GIVE IT TO ME YOU BITCH GIVE IT GIVE IT GIVE IT! IN THE NAME OF TOBY FOX I'M GOING TO FUCKING KILL IT!

 

[3deadniggers]

The milk is so potent that there are multiple long-running threads dedicated to various subcommunities, splinter communities, posters and threads from 4chan, so why is the main thread not also important considering how much it's spawned?

Threads on users and communities make sense because they're specific things to target and discuss. 4chan is too nebulous and it's very difficult to make sense of it for an individual user. The /pw/ guy mentioned earlier is a boogey man who no one can tell is posting or not. Wolfie posting is a meme on that board so how can we tell what's being posted by him? If we can then how relevant is it after 6 months? Will /pw/ still have the same memes or will they be different?

If your argument is that the thread is unimportant because it's currently just a place for jaded 4chan users to reminisce about the good ol' days instead of a place for genuine mockery, that's all the more reason the OP needs a rewrite. The OP doesn't do its job of introducing new users to the topic so that they're ready to hop into the discussion (like other threads do), so the only people who post here are those who are already familiar with the site and don't need the OP anyway. A proper OP would help bring in more people posting about actual cows.

An over view of the site and current board culture would be a better rewrite but what is there to even introduce users to? You click on the URL, open a board and open a thread. It's not a complex site to use and it's constantly scrolling content and most of it is spam or green text stories as fake as Reddit's stories. Those can be posted in the thread without the OP.

As for the generals being "communities all of their own," they are... until they aren't. There are certain games I simply cannot discuss on /v/ without an 80% likelihood of the thread being bombarded with copypastas and catchphrase spam from /dbs/, /blacked/, and/or /hmofa/, or even just the game's corresponding /vg/ thread, and sometimes the posters stick around to start thread-derailing arguments with other types of posters, other spamming generals, or even other members of their own general with differing tastes, whom they'll attack insincerely as a form of inside joke (I DO NOT GIVE A FUCK ABOUT BEJITABRO VS GOKUGODS OR WHATEVER THE FUCK THE FRED FLINTSTONE DRAGON BALL CUCK COPYPASTA IS SUPPOSED TO MEAN, PLEASE JUST LET ME DISCUSS VIDYA)

How interesting are the generals? I know they're all cursed in different ways but does any one really care or need to know every thread has a specific spammer? If the Stalker thread is always spammed with Asuka pictures is it funny? Is it interesting? Is it worth reading about?

You have posted about these people in the thread but how many replies do they get compared to general bitching about 4chan? The Reddit and 4chan threads both function as generic hubs with no real focus and then specific threads for the communities with content worth discussing. I think that works better than trying to keep track of anonymous posters who are often other users posting as them to troll.

4chan isn't relevant enough to matter any more. Even the users who check the thread don't really care about the site and we're waiting for it to die or see a serious staff change. OP isn't going to do much to change that and until that happens it's in a long status quo in the tranny gutter.

 

[Dewey Decimal]

Says the poster with a borderline lolicon anime avatar wearing a corset..

Every board on 4chan is cow worthy. You won't find a single board without schizos posting all over it. Trying to tier them makes no sense since the generals are communities all of their own and everyone has a resident retard.

Does OP need rewriting? We don't even discuss the cows of 4chan. We shit on the site for still existing and mourn what's been lost.

Nigger, is there something you want to tell the class about yourself? Since it sounds like a whole lot of bullshit and projection coming from a rando on the internet.

 

[Cabalite]

Going deeper than a board-wide schizo and into general-specific weirdos sounds like a really big waste of time. Plus a lot of them are inane ritualposters.

 

[JJLiautaud]

fandom has shut down all the 4chan wiki's including shit like /sci/, /mu/, /lit/

https://boards.4chan.org/mu/thread/123540132

Can some get the desu archive of this thread?