A Tangent About Null

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Null wants to kill all blacks, which includes some people I care about. I wouldn't piss on Null if his heart was on fire. Not sure why you think that point means anything to me.

Also, I've been against this shit all the way since it was first introduced. If you were actually of enough foresight to see that this shit soup would eventually get used on the other side, then I walk back what I said about you. I take nothing back elsewhere, however.
@Null is a very… interesting?… case. He evokes complicated and sometimes contradictory feelings.

I remember, years ago when fucking Jace was doing his Deagle Nation shit, I remember listening to Jace speaking over Skype to somebody. At this point I had no idea who Null was or that he was the owner of Kiwifarms; at this point, it wasn’t even called KF yet, still known as the cwc forums. I remember listening to someone speak calmly and thoughtfully to Jace as Jace simply yelled back “Joooosh! JOOOOOOOOOOSH!” That’s when my interest was piqued about who this guy was, as it seemed clear he wasn’t just another thoughtless troll. He was eloquent and patient, and though he likely didn’t entirely have Jace’s best interests at heart, he seemed to assume an almost big-brother persona to him.

Since then, Null has seriously been through a lot. He’s attracted the wrath of impotent lolcows over the years, sure, but some of them were dedicated enough to attempt to ruin his life. Two have them have all but succeeded: Sam Smith and Melinda. He’s been run out of his country, had contact with his family severed, career prospects utterly obliterated, all of it unjustly. And as a further humiliation, none of these people will likely experience a reckoning for what they’ve done to Josh.

I listen to his podcast semi-frequently, and in the one episode where he lamented not having the chance for a more domestic life as his 30s march onward, I really hurt for him. He was alone, far from his home in a country he doesn’t speak the language of and would never tolerate him if they knew what he did, and his greatest hope is to try and keep one step ahead of his enemies as they relentlessly try to shatter the remnants of his life. He has no real irl contacts, and he is hated by internet folks on both sides of the spectrum: trannies and freaks on one side, alt-right fucks who DDOS his website because he won’t let them post cp on the other. And for those here on KF who do seem to like him, they usually fall into this revolting, sycophantic NOTICE ME SEMPAI embarrassment that Null clearly reviles.

He is effectively welcome nowhere, so of course he lives his life online. That’s the reason, more than anything else, he falls for these stereotypically bad takes like his blatant racial bigotry and Covid insanity. Is he wrong? Yes, more often than not, especially on those two topics, but rather than feel disgust at him like I do at the average A&H’ers, I just feel so sorry for him. He’s a broken, destroyed man who has broken, destroyed opinions on topics he doesn’t understand to rationalize his broken, destroyed life. If I were to wish him anything at all, it would be that he could just turn off his computer for a few years, find a rural community somewhere, and just hit reset. That sounds like a cliché, but I don’t see any other way in which Null’s story has a happy ending.

Beneath all the dross, I still see glimmers of the old Null. He stands firm in his beliefs of a freer (if not fairer) world, even when it would have been easier to simply toe the line and walk away. I really don’t think anyone else here on KF would have the courage to stick to their guns the way he has. But the takeaway that one should have of Null is a cautionary tale of Too Much Internet Syndrome.

This concludes my Null faggotry
 
He is effectively welcome nowhere, so of course he lives his life online. That’s the reason, more than anything else, he falls for these stereotypically bad takes like his blatant racial bigotry and Covid insanity. Is he wrong? Yes, more often than not, especially on those two topics, but rather than feel disgust at him like I do at the average A&H’ers, I just feel so sorry for him. He’s a broken, destroyed man who has broken, destroyed opinions on topics he doesn’t understand to rationalize his broken, destroyed life. If I were to wish him anything at all, it would be that he could just turn off his computer for a few years, find a rural community somewhere, and just hit reset. That sounds like a cliché, but I don’t see any other way in which Null’s story has a happy ending.

Beneath all the dross, I still see glimmers of the old Null. He stands firm in his beliefs of a freer (if not fairer) world, even when it would have been easier to simply toe the line and walk away. I really don’t think anyone else here on KF would have the courage to stick to their guns the way he has. But the takeaway that one should have of Null is a cautionary tale of Too Much Internet Syndrome.
My life is not entirely online and I'm not prohibited from domesticating. If and when that happens, it will be done quietly. I don't envy Internet celebrity status and I have no reason to show off anything I like. You see what I allow you to see and what I am confident cannot be taken from me. This is paints me as someone very angry, very alone, and very poor. I'm not so bad but I cannot and will not show anyone any other side of me.

As far as "killing all blacks" goes, uh, no. I've never said that. I've advocated a separate but equal world. There's countries for every people on the planet except for white people. I just want for me what everybody else in the world gets to enjoy. 2014 Null is very similar to 2022 Null in that they both value one thing above all else: I want to be left alone. I want to be left alone from government, from retards like Melinda, from ISPs, and from the classes of people who are not like me and who don't even fucking like me.
 
My life is not entirely online and I'm not prohibited from domesticating. If and when that happens, it will be done quietly. I don't envy Internet celebrity status and I have no reason to show off anything I like. You see what I allow you to see and what I am confident cannot be taken from me. This is paints me as someone very angry, very alone, and very poor. I'm not so bad but I cannot and will not show anyone any other side of me.
Do you think that's air you're breathing now?
 
He was alone, far from his home in a country he doesn’t speak the language of and would never tolerate him if they knew what he did, and his greatest hope is to try and keep one step ahead of his enemies as they relentlessly try to shatter the remnants of his life.
I dunno about that. Serbs have pretty much been the trolls of the world since Gavrilo Princip did his lulzy little stunt.
 
My life is not entirely online and I'm not prohibited from domesticating. If and when that happens, it will be done quietly. I don't envy Internet celebrity status and I have no reason to show off anything I like. You see what I allow you to see and what I am confident cannot be taken from me. This is paints me as someone very angry, very alone, and very poor. I'm not so bad but I cannot and will not show anyone any other side of me.

As far as "killing all blacks" goes, uh, no. I've never said that. I've advocated a separate but equal world. There's countries for every people on the planet except for white people. I just want for me what everybody else in the world gets to enjoy. 2014 Null is very similar to 2022 Null in that they both value one thing above all else: I want to be left alone. I want to be left alone from government, from retards like Melinda, from ISPs, and from the classes of people who are not like me and who don't even fucking like me.
I don’t want to argue with you on any of your racial opinions, as I’m sure you’re utterly sick of it anyway. The only thing I’d say: you yourself have been the recipient of great injustice. This has always come from those who don’t know you, don’t care to know you, and usually is “justified” based on the barest characteristics of association. You are painted as a monster, and crusades against as one. I bet part of you wishes that you could sit down and explain to them that, no, I am not like that, I am a human being, possessing of all the wrinkles and complexities that this entails. If only the effort weren’t so futile, that is…

I would only ask that you extend the same courtesy to those of other races. For every WE WUZ KANGS and ghetto Georgia slapfight, there are, like you, human beings. You don’t deserve to be treated a certain way based on the prejudices that swirl around your public image, and neither do blacks.

For whatever hollow consequence an internet faggot’s words carry, I am very happy to hear that you are happier than you otherwise reveal, and I hope your life continues to get better.

ps congrats on all the weight loss, I did something similar and it took a year but I reached my goal and my entire life is different as a result, keep going!
 
I would only ask that you extend the same courtesy to those of other races. For every WE WUZ KANGS and ghetto Georgia slapfight, there are, like you, human beings. You don’t deserve to be treated a certain way based on the prejudices that swirl around your public image, and neither do blacks.
Bro I've lived in the south since I was a kid and my last memory of being in the US was going up with my mom to Alabama to buy fireworks for the 4th of July and seeing all the little black boys with their country dads in overalls buying fireworks to celebrate being American. It's not that I am completely filled with hatred for people over their skin color. It's that I know their interests and my interests do not intersect as tightly in the venn diagram as my interests and the interests of other white people do. Nothing will ever change that.

Fundamentally, we want different things, have different peoples, different genetics, have different histories, different cultures, different brains. What desires we have in common we have irreconcilable differences in opinion of how to achieve. We're hardwired different. It's not hate, it's just the miserable realization that the country they celebrate is dead and decaying and it's because of the diversity we're told is a good thing.

If I'm wrong, nothing changes. People like me less. Who cares.
If I'm right, my family doesn't get raped and murdered by blacks in the revolts of 2030 because I stayed away from them.
 
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Bro I've lived in the south since I was a kid and my last memory of being in the US was going up with my mom to Alabama to buy fireworks for the 4th of July and seeing all the little black boys with their country dads in overalls buying fireworks to celebrate being American. It's not that I am completely filled with hatred for people over their skin color. It's that I know their interests and my interests do not intersect as tightly in the venn diagram as my interests and the interests of other white people do. Nothing will ever change that.

Fundamentally, we want different things, have different peoples, different genetics, have different histories, different cultures, different brains. What desires we have in common we have irreconcilable differences in opinion of how to achieve. We're hardwired different. It's not hate, it's just the miserable realization that the country they celebrate is dead and decaying and it's because of the diversity we're told is a good thing.

If I'm wrong, nothing changes. People like me less. Who cares.
If I'm right, my family doesn't get raped and murdered by blacks in the revolts of 2030 because I stayed away from them.
Yes I understand that you suggest that you harbour them no ill will but feel that their interests are entirely orthogonal to your own.

Personally, I feel that the characteristics that you seem to think are so important as to divide “tribes” down sharp, well defined lines, are in fact subservient and inconsequential to more base human desires: we all want safety, prosperity, and to be near to our loved ones who are also safe and prosperous. In my many years, I have been able to find this commonality with all racial groups I’ve lived near, without compromising anything of myself or my interests. Ultimately, human desires are only as complex as the edifices we build in their image.

ETA okay I did get a laugh out of Mooselini
 
@Null is a very… interesting?… case. He evokes complicated and sometimes contradictory feelings.

I remember, years ago when fucking Jace was doing his Deagle Nation shit, I remember listening to Jace speaking over Skype to somebody. At this point I had no idea who Null was or that he was the owner of Kiwifarms; at this point, it wasn’t even called KF yet, still known as the cwc forums. I remember listening to someone speak calmly and thoughtfully to Jace as Jace simply yelled back “Joooosh! JOOOOOOOOOOSH!” That’s when my interest was piqued about who this guy was, as it seemed clear he wasn’t just another thoughtless troll. He was eloquent and patient, and though he likely didn’t entirely have Jace’s best interests at heart, he seemed to assume an almost big-brother persona to him.

Since then, Null has seriously been through a lot. He’s attracted the wrath of impotent lolcows over the years, sure, but some of them were dedicated enough to attempt to ruin his life. Two have them have all but succeeded: Sam Smith and Melinda. He’s been run out of his country, had contact with his family severed, career prospects utterly obliterated, all of it unjustly. And as a further humiliation, none of these people will likely experience a reckoning for what they’ve done to Josh.

I listen to his podcast semi-frequently, and in the one episode where he lamented not having the chance for a more domestic life as his 30s march onward, I really hurt for him. He was alone, far from his home in a country he doesn’t speak the language of and would never tolerate him if they knew what he did, and his greatest hope is to try and keep one step ahead of his enemies as they relentlessly try to shatter the remnants of his life. He has no real irl contacts, and he is hated by internet folks on both sides of the spectrum: trannies and freaks on one side, alt-right fucks who DDOS his website because he won’t let them post cp on the other. And for those here on KF who do seem to like him, they usually fall into this revolting, sycophantic NOTICE ME SEMPAI embarrassment that Null clearly reviles.

He is effectively welcome nowhere, so of course he lives his life online. That’s the reason, more than anything else, he falls for these stereotypically bad takes like his blatant racial bigotry and Covid insanity. Is he wrong? Yes, more often than not, especially on those two topics, but rather than feel disgust at him like I do at the average A&H’ers, I just feel so sorry for him. He’s a broken, destroyed man who has broken, destroyed opinions on topics he doesn’t understand to rationalize his broken, destroyed life. If I were to wish him anything at all, it would be that he could just turn off his computer for a few years, find a rural community somewhere, and just hit reset. That sounds like a cliché, but I don’t see any other way in which Null’s story has a happy ending.

Beneath all the dross, I still see glimmers of the old Null. He stands firm in his beliefs of a freer (if not fairer) world, even when it would have been easier to simply toe the line and walk away. I really don’t think anyone else here on KF would have the courage to stick to their guns the way he has. But the takeaway that one should have of Null is a cautionary tale of Too Much Internet Syndrome.

This concludes my Null faggotry
This is not targeted at you, but at Null...
I was between jobs around 1999, and I did volunteer work at the nearest food pantries and candy striping just to have something to do for some levity instead of sitting around worrying whether a place would call me back. I saw plenty of people in absolute hopeless and destroyed life situations. Yes, a few of them were lashing out and were spouting some of the most ignorant and bigoted shit my ears ever heard. But you know what; the vast bulk of those people, even in those lower than low moments did NOT. It is not hard, let alone impossible, to have a horrific situation and refrain from wanting an entire race genocided or enslaved.
In the words of Big Poppa Pump Scott Steiner, NO SYMPY.
 
Bro I've lived in the south since I was a kid and my last memory of being in the US was going up with my mom to Alabama to buy fireworks for the 4th of July and seeing all the little black boys with their country dads in overalls buying fireworks to celebrate being American. It's not that I am completely filled with hatred for people over their skin color. It's that I know their interests and my interests do not intersect as tightly in the venn diagram as my interests and the interests of other white people do. Nothing will ever change that.

Fundamentally, we want different things, have different peoples, different genetics, have different histories, different cultures, different brains. What desires we have in common we have irreconcilable differences in opinion of how to achieve. We're hardwired different. It's not hate, it's just the miserable realization that the country they celebrate is dead and decaying and it's because of the diversity we're told is a good thing.

If I'm wrong, nothing changes. People like me less. Who cares.
If I'm right, my family doesn't get raped and murdered by blacks in the revolts of 2030 because I stayed away from them.
Respectfully disagree. All human races are under similar convergent evolutionary pressures towards intelligence and cooperation. People, genetics, histories, cultures, and brains may currently be different but they're all heading towards a similar place. Wanton murder and rape are being selected out of humanity because cultures that endorse this behavior have no longevity.
 
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