American Foreign Policy Thread - For the shitshow our government has gotten us into.

Which American president since 2000 has had the worst foreign policy?

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There's no good thread discussing American foreign policy in general, not just happenings. Bring your best and worst takes about the middle east, Russia, Biden, Trump, Obama, etc.

I'll start by saying that I am voting for Trump in large part because his administration was so much more successful in regards to foreign policy compared to the disastrous Biden years. Abraham Accords, North Korean trolling/cooling, and a generally successful and high amount of diplomacy. Biden has only used Ukraine as a pawn for western influence in Eastern Europe along with completely bungling the Afghanistan pull-out, the growth of Iranian power, and a stupidly undiplomatic hands off approach to Palestine. Biden has unplugged many of the holes that were pretty well sealed by Trump and the shit water has been flowing at a rapid pace. I firmly believe that Kamala will be even worse in this department, leading to WW3 or strongly contributing to it through inaction.

*Note: All American politicians suck Israel's cock quite equally, so let's not argue about who will take them deeper.
 
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Joe Biden's foreign policy is so weak and laughable even Latin American and African countries were openly mocking him and the United States. Hell Joe Biden can't even properly threaten Mexico to not join BRICs.
 
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Out of presidents listed I think Bush was the worst. Not because I consider him inherently bad as a person or that he was incompetent.
But because his war on Iraq and Afghanistan have opened the gates of hell for any fucker to justify his actions.
Putin has been pointing to Iraq as justification for his actions for years. Of course, people like him would always find a justification. Even now he asks why USA can do what others can't?
And besides all that- where are the weapons of mass destruction, Mr. Bush? Where are they? How did the search go? Iraq is still a shithole, Afghanistan is ruled by barbarian taliban again. I guess everything worked out in the end.
On the other hand Biden is clearly mentally handicapped, it's a disaster.
 
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I hope the US gets Greenland just for the lols.
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Denmark pretends to care about their colony as soon as it's under threat

As for who's the worst at forpol it has to be Bush. Not just for Iraq, but the entire basis of the Bush Doctrine (aka "invade first and try to state build later) has plagued basically this entire century and ruined the entire field of International relations. Literally we're only just recovering from the great neoliberal hellscape of thinking we could do anything we wanted as the sole great power
 
Trump truly is the ultimate baby boomer. Burning contempt for European nations while maintaining treasonous levels of devotion to Israel.
 
I personally really don't like Douglas Moray he's a neoconservative psychopath here's some good points about Muslims and Europe but other than that the guys they disagreeable person but Dave Smith is the perfect example why I do not have geopolitics discussions with the vast majority of people dave gets trounced on every single thing he says to Douglas and it insists he was telling the truth
 
I support every single intervention that's happened or been proposed by the United States. I don't care about RuZZia killing Ukrainian babies or gay rights in Gabon. They may say they intervene for those reasons, but really it's just to show them who's boss. You know how at the zoo they have that guy who wails on the animals when they're acting bad? And how they'll punch a chimp or something just to show them they mean business? Yeah that's we're doing. It's called winning. Thirdies should try it some time.
 
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I support every single intervention that's happened or been proposed by the United States. I don't care about RuZZia killing Ukrainian babies or gay rights in Gabon. They may say they intervene for those reasons, but really it's just to show them who's boss. You know how at the zoo they have that guy who wails on the animals when they're acting bad? And how they'll punch a chimp or something just to show them they mean business? Yeah that's we're doing. It's called winning. Thirdies should try it some time.
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Based in red pilled kill all of America's enemies I don't care what color they are or even if it's ideologically inconsistent bomb Christians bomb oanians bomb Muslims bomb Jews
 
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