Inactive Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston / CattyN - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

[Jewelsmakerguy]

And here is that tirade. Holy shit!

Spoiler: many tweets

https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/692560375645130752
https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/692560550979584001
https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/692560686002618370
https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/692560884070256642
https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/692561120511541255
https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/692561197388926977

This guy...

Hey Dobson, why don't you take a look at what you've become? Because last time I checked, you claimed you couldn't art anymore; routinely attempt to call people out on bullshit that's practically non-existent; refuse to take criticism, much less understand what the fuck it means. And to top it all off, try to hide it under a bunch of rambling hypocrisy (like what you're doing just now).

An artist gains happiness from his art...Any artists here know that we are miserable if we don't draw/play/sing/whatever...
Dobson's problem is simple, he is not ever creating, so he is doing the opposite: Destroying. Namely, himself.

A step in the right direction for this loser would be to stop fucking about and get working.

Good idea in concept, not so much in practice. Would he really want to get to work when his salty twitter rants and stupid Minecraftsacapes are more important? And I get the feeling any happiness he could have had back then is all but lost now.

 

[Curt Sibling]

God, yeah. This idea of encouragement shows that Dobbo is in the Deviant Art mentality, where the sagging hearts of artists must be lifted if they are not to fall in to slumber. Dobbo is supposedly a professional, or at least he's trying to make a living. The only encouragement he should need would be positive receptions to his work and the money he makes. Well, there's the problem. His work is not exactly receiving rave reviews, and his Patreon income gives him between 22 and 28 dollars per week. If his output is reliant upon receiving ass-pats from the Internet, then he should get a proper job and leave the art as a hobby. He may in fact enjoy drawing more when it's not his living.

Good point! I've been on DevArt more than a decade, and I can say that for every ten Dobson types, there are one or two real pros who do amazing art, and make a living.
The deciding factor is that they work hard. A thing that seems alien to Dobs these days. There is no substitute to sitting down and churning out the art. He has forgotten this.
And I must agree, he really should get away from the net/comics/twitter and change the record totally. What he used to enjoy now seems to be a prison for him...

I think if he switches to drawing just for the fun, he'll regain the joy of art.
But, sadly this is Dobson, so not holding my breath...

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Good point! I've been on DevArt more than a decade, and I can say that for every ten Dobson types, there are one or two real pros who do amazing art, and make a living.
The deciding factor is that they work hard. A thing that seems alien to Dobs these days. There is no substitute to sitting down and churning out the art. He has forgotten this.
And I must agree, he really should get away from the net/comics/twitter and change the record totally. What he used to enjoy now seems to be a prison for him...

I think if he switches to drawing just for the fun, he'll regain the joy of art.
But, sadly this is Dobson, so not holding my breath...

Work as a whole seems to be a foreign concept to Dobson these days. Remember, he turns down requests from his parents, and his father's failed to even make him get a job. Dobbo's pretty much a lost cause when it comes to that.

Of course, I could be wrong down the line, and he may do just that. As it stands however, I'm not holding out that much hope.

 

[MMX]

Work as a whole seems to be a foreign concept to Dobson these days. Remember, he turns down requests from his parents, and his father's failed to even make him get a job. Dobbo's pretty much a lost cause when it comes to that.

Just one slight correction.
Dobbies father actually got dobbie a job working for the family IT business.
Details are light but dobbie managed to fuck up so badly that even his own father gave up and fired him.

Word is dobbie does have a job. There was a theory he worked as night crew stacking shelves hence his odd twitter patterns but dobbie has got better at covering his tracks.

 

[UglyOldJafar]

considering his current twitter patterns I actually assumed he is by now unemployed.

 

[MMX]

considering his current twitter patterns I actually assumed he is by now unemployed.

Its hard to accept dobbie has a job and doesn't complain about customers but he has to have some form of income other than patreon to keep a roof over his head, the lights on and McDonald's every friday.
Whilst the bank of mum and dad bail him out a bunch i think he has a job that has a low chance of interacting with customers and gets him into a pattern of odd sleeping hours
He was making some cash via brental floss so does anyone know roughly with a web comic artist would make?

Interestly the best insight into dobbies work ethic comes from andy himself.
His DA journal has some great stories about what a lazy useless fuck he was at the airport and that he only applied because his girlfriend wanted him to pay his way for a holiday and that he really only got job because of her connections.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

Just one slight correction.
Dobbies father actually got dobbie a job working for the family IT business.
Details are light but dobbie managed to fuck up so badly that even his own father gave up and fired him.

Holy shit, that's amazing. If Dobby got fired, I'm surprised he could even find another job. Pitty that he's keeping a tight lip on it. But I guess that's for the better- lest his employer find out about him and his bullshitting ways.

Though if that happened, I can only imagine that the resulting fallout from it would be hilarious.

 

[MMX]

Holy shit, that's amazing. If Dobby got fired, I'm surprised he could even find another job. Pitty that he's keeping a tight lip on it. But I guess that's for the better- lest his employer find out about him and his bullshitting ways.

Though if that happened, I can only imagine that the resulting fallout from it would be hilarious.

How was definitely firmed, his DA journal says his dad had to let him go, so based on what we know of dobbies tech and people skills he was useless in any support role.
Well hes not getting a reference from the airport, flipping off your boss tends to burn bridges and in dobbies cause he hadnt bothered to cross it first.
There was word he was working for another airport and that was how he could afford convention travel via staff rates.

 

[Von Clausewitz]

Please don't share your wet dreams with us, Dobson.

I have a dream that one day the lesbians will rise up and live out the true meaning of thier creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that Andrew Dobson deserves all the asspats."

I have a dream that one day on the two hills of Georgia, the sons of former asspatters and the sons of former asspat-receivers will be able to push down their lips and do the "motorboat".

I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of scantily clad and cuddling lesbians.

I have a dream that this little blue bear will one day live in a nation where it will not be judged by the effort he puts into his work but by the boner he has for lesbians.

I have a dream today!

 

[Monkey D. Luffy]

And here is that tirade. Holy shit!

Spoiler: many tweets

https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/692560375645130752
https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/692560550979584001
https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/692560686002618370
https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/692560884070256642
https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/692561120511541255
https://twitter.com/ADobsonComics/status/692561197388926977

This guy...

From an outsider's perspective, all of this doesn't seem bad until it starts to look less encouraging and more whining.

Dobson, you repeat this shitty mentality every few months that it's amazing you don't try to find some way to repost it so you don't have to expend energy to type it again.

Positive reinforcement? Yeah, I can het behind that. But the thing is constant praise like you're aiming for does jack shit when you're making the same mistakes over and over again but yet you have no one to point them out and give you some sense of perspective you might not find getting constant asspats.

And for someone who tells people to not look at the world as black and white, you sure like to think the world is so unkind. I used to think like that in high school, now I look at the world differently. It may not be the best, but there isn't anything else out there so I think finding the good in something is better than whining about the bad.

 

[Jewelsmakerguy]

From an outsider's perspective, all of this doesn't seem bad until it starts to look less encouraging and more whining.

Dobson, you repeat this shitty mentality every few months that it's amazing you don't try to find some way to repost it so you don't have to expend energy to type it again.

Positive reinforcement? Yeah, I can het behind that. But the thing is constant praise like you're aiming for does jack shit when you're making the same mistakes over and over again but yet you have no one to point them out and give you some sense of perspective you might not find getting constant asspats.

And for someone who tells people to not look at the world as black and white, you sure like to think the world is so unkind. I used to think like that in high school, now I look at the world differently. It may not be the best, but there isn't anything else out there so I think finding the good in something is better than whining about the bad.

A few months? Try every other week. Dude is a revolving door when it comes to this shit.

But we can all agree on one thing: Dobson hates practicing what he preaches.

 

[Catastrophe-TM]

BREAKING: Dobson still hates criticism and tries to justify his mediocrity.

Yes, quote the artist whose surreal art style you won't experiment with yourself.

The meaning of Dali's quote here is that you shouldn't stress to be perfect (or a perfectionist) as there's always gonna be something wrong with your work, but you should strive for excellence and do what you can.

Which you, Dobson, a "professional artist" refuse to do, and just stagnate.

 

[UglyOldJafar]

The meaning of Dali's quote here is that you shouldn't stress to be perfect (or a perfectionist) as there's always gonna be something wrong with your work, but you should strive for excellence and do what you can.

I am always baffled about that kind of thing with Dobson and other lolcows. That they take an inspirational quote like that, but then screw its meaning up into something more egoistical by deliberately overlooking the context of it.
Yes, it can be good not to be perfect. Cause if you try to grasp for perfection, self doubt can become your biggest obstacle. But at the same time, if you want to be considered exceptioal, you also have to do something exceptional. And that is the thing with Dobson: Nothing he does is exceptional. Exceptional outdated, self centered and immature for someone who is hitting the age of 35 this year, sure. but else? Guy is blander then the color of my living room.

 

[Replicant Sasquatch]

To be fair misinterpreting a popular quote to justify your shitty attitudes isn't unique to lolcows. How many if you here see your Facebook friends fill your feed with the same crap?

 

[The Eel Sleeps Here]

So does that mean Dobby will only draw if he gets asspats or popularity? Some artist. I used to care for popularity as before, but as of now, the only thing I only care about as an artist is to improve my self to get better

Anywho, I'm pretty surprised, well not to most, that he does show care for animals and environment by retweeting about an animal sanctuary in Oregon. Then again, I doubt he cares about them less than animals who die in fictional movies and games maybe it's just me. It's probably the shooting...

 

[wheat pasta]

Well, I laugh at Dobson's art.

 

[Dilligaff]

Echoing others here: I just don't get how he thinks artists can only function on asspats. Look, if you (hypothetical "you") post something and someone says "holy shit you can't draw hands they look like flippers," that would hurt fee-fees, yes. Now you can either cry about it on Twitter or start practicing drawing hands. The practice makes your art better, you feel more accomplished, more people like it, and yes - you get more asspats (if that's all you care about).

In any case, you feel better as an artist because you did some work, it paid off, and your art improved even though the impetus came from some "troll."

The best way to get nicer feedback on your art is to not be a raging asshole when someone dares to say "maybe you ought to vary your line weight a bit - it makes the drawing livelier." Do you want trolls? Because that's how you get trolls.

I apologize for preaching to the choir.

 

[Kamen Rider Black RX]

Perfection may be an illusion, but that's not a bad thing. While it is ultimately unattainable, that only means people always have something to strive for. There's always room to improve, to make things better, to utilize the infinite potential in all of us. We have to recognize our own flaws and shortcomings so that we make work on them.

Sure, praise feels good but it can blind an artist to their weaknesses. And criticism may make someone feel bad but it also guides them on how to improve. After all, why improve on something you're already being praised for? They have to be balanced like yin and yang, not one or the other. Sadly though, as Dobson's talent has regressed his strengths are disappearing and his weaknesses growing.

And I would really, really like to hear what Dobson's old college professor's would say about his attitude now.

(It's times like this I think I should write self-help books... or start a cult. Either/or.)

 

[EtherealDragon]

Echoing others here: I just don't get how he thinks artists can only function on asspats. Look, if you (hypothetical "you") post something and someone says "holy shit you can't draw hands they look like flippers," that would hurt fee-fees, yes. Now you can either cry about it on Twitter or start practicing drawing hands. The practice makes your art better, you feel more accomplished, more people like it, and yes - you get more asspats (if that's all you care about).

In any case, you feel better as an artist because you did some work, it paid off, and your art improved even though the impetus came from some "troll."

The best way to get nicer feedback on your art is to not be a raging asshole when someone dares to say "maybe you ought to vary your line weight a bit - it makes the drawing livelier." Do you want trolls? Because that's how you get trolls.

I apologize for preaching to the choir.

Delligaff has a point. Here's a couple of drawings where I worked to improve myself instead of bitch and complain that someone told me my hands look like flippers. And trust me, I have had negative criticism and I've cried and complained, but once my emotional portion of my brain shut off and my logic kicked back in, I STARTED TO PRACTICE MORE WITH HANDS.

Each player in the example above could brag about practicing for one hour, but only one of them is practicing deliberately.

Researchers have noted that top performers in every industry are committed to deliberate practice. The best artists, musicians, athletes, CEOs, and entrepreneurs don’t merely work a lot, they work a lot on developing specific skills. For example, Jerry Seinfeld’s “don’t break the chain” strategy is all about deliberately practicing the skill of writing jokes.

https://blog.bufferapp.com/lessons-...-practice-from-mozart-picasso-and-kobe-bryant

Of course Dobson isn't going to follow this advice at all. I just want to point out nothing is impossible if you at least try. Him wanting asspats isn't going to really help him improve.

 

[Jigglyjogglers]

BREAKING: Dobson still hates criticism and tries to justify his mediocrity.

This reminds me of a guy I used to know who was never able to form his own opinions. He just went with whatever the most recent strongly-stated stance was (so he wound up with SJW opinions a lot of the time, since they're so strident, and then at other times he'd go on about how terrible SJWs were because he'd seen someone write an impassioned post about that). Eventually he got tired of myself and others pointing out that his spine swayed like a stalk of wheat in the breeze, and wrote a big long post about how his inability to form his own opinions or stick to a consistent stance was actually a positive thing because it meant he was "open minded".

That's what Dobson reminds me of. He takes traits that are obviously flaws and obvious as such to the rest of the world (the inability to take criticism) and tries to spin them around until they're actually positive traits, and why can't everyone see that?