Inactive Andrew Dobson / Tom Preston / CattyN - STOP DOING SEXIST CRAP

Ada Lovelace may have created the first computer program, but she wrote it for the Analytical Engine created by Charles Babbage, a man. Both the Engine and program were theoretical because the machine was never actually built. It's a stupid fucking fact because there is no difference between men and women's ability to become proficient programmers and anyone who believes there is may be mentally challenged. Many women working for companies like Commodore and Atari and beyond get no acknowledgement for their accomplishments in developing software and hardware because of this gross need to prop up a narrative that programming is a boys only club and always has been EVEN THOUGH THE FIRST PROGRAMMER WAS A WOMAN YOU GUYS. The false narrative perpetuates a message that women are "unwelcome" and the stigma, in middle to high school, that computers are for nerdy boys is what is keeping women out of programming even now when they're handing out scholarships for women in tech like free candy.
It's like how teh misogynerds have supposedly been keeping women out of tabletop roleplaying games, when everyone who remembers the days before geek chic in the 80's and 90's knows that male roleplayers were actually thrilled with women joining in their games. It was a geek fantasy to have a girlfriend or real life waifu who was just as into the same nerdy shit as you were. The big things keeping women out of tabletop RPG's were the social stigma from their non-nerd peers and socially awkward guys who were too enthusiastic and had a poor understanding of boundaries.

Even with that, from my understanding, there were more women roleplayers in Europe, where being into fantasy didn't have quite the same social stigma.

But nobody was mad about women getting into roleplaying. It was the "everything needs to change to conform to me" attitude of some women (and men) who got into the hobby after it became popular that pissed people off.
 
Okay, this is a quick and dirty edit that I've done during my last hour of work, so apologies.

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Dobbo has long since admitted this. Remember the reason he quit the Anime Club (other than the bullshit reason of "they looked down on us because it encouraged a Porn Club"), was because people were MSTing his Ranma and Airia: Zerium OVA's?

Knowing him, he took ribbing at goofiness as "making fun of MUH CHILDHOOD!" and that's why he ragequit like a bitch.



Priest was pretty open with that; when he made the jump over to DC, he outright begged to not be pigeonholed as the next writer for Cyborg, Black Lightning or any other black character. He was by all accounts grateful he got Deathstroke.



Ethan Van Sciver was a longtime veteran of the Big Two, who was especially well known for his art on Flash and Green Lantern.

When he felt that the industry was becoming too Left, he essentially went independent and became a big figure in Comicsgate. Off the top of my head, the only really big scummy thing was to try to claim that a colleague of his who'd passed away would have agreed with him, only for the widow to tell him to basically shut the fuck up and stop lying.

So, EVS did a livestream/podcast where he dissected Dobson's "Star Wars fans ruined these actors' lives" comic, and Dobson was indignant. Evidence implies that Dobbo or his fans tried to hit EVS with a strike on YT to limit his ability to stream. The thing is that Dobson tried to downplay EVS telling him his art and his ideals sucked, despite EVS being millions of times more successful than a failure-to-launch MCAD graduate who can only make political cartoons on Facebook.
It's unclear whether EVS was outright lying, or whether the widow was just a huge feminist SJW who thought her husband was just as SJW as she was and may have been unaware of a slight redpilling in her husband's thinking before he passed. Maybe EVS honestly believed (even if it in actuality wasn't an accurate perception on EVS's part) that the dude was at least redpilled enough to agree with him on the industry being dragged too far to the left. Who knows.

I noticed Dobson kinda used himself as a template when drawing EVS which is why at least the head shape looks more dobson potato than EVS's actual head shape.

EDIT: comments to the new idiot comic:
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Notice also Alyxandrea Jade Loffer professing unrequited love once again...is this byatch thirsty or what?! Was this the 3D chess of Dobson attracting a boyfriend-free feminist woman, or is this backfiring horribly? Can't wait to see how it turns out.
 
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Also Dobson didn't even mention what may have been the first novel was written by a woman, Murasaki Shikibu, in Heian era Japan. Also you should read Genji Monogatari if you ever get the chance. Dobson would probably hate it because Shining Prince Genji is a """d*bag""" and a bit of a womanizer, abducts a child from a monastery to be his future daughter wife, and later builds a super swag playboy mansion for all the women he was with to take care of them.
 
Also Dobson didn't even mention what may have been the first novel was written by a woman, Murasaki Shikibu, in Heian era Japan. Also you should read Genji Monogatari if you ever get the chance. Dobson would probably hate it because Shining Prince Genji is a """d*bag""" and a bit of a womanizer, abducts a child from a monastery to be his future daughter wife, and later builds a super swag playboy mansion for all the women he was with to take care of them.

Oh, so THAT's where all the harem anime/manga ideas came from. Also pretty sure Dobbo won't acknowledge anything anyone from Japan does because of his virgin boiling rage for 'em.
 
Wait, who’s EVs and what sort of comment did he leave to make Dobson sperg out (which is honestly not that hard.)?
It was this video:

To add to what others have said he’s one of the bigger critics of Comic Gate, him and Diversity in Comics/Ya Boi Zack are the two biggest guys who make regular YouTube videos about the subject, they also create comics which sell well which might annoy Dobson.

But anyway for someone like Dobson it’s not really a bad thing to be criticised by him since it increases his visibility and as far as his social justice friends would be concerned it’d be ‘Andrew must be doing something right to be criticised by Ethan!’, the social justice community who work in comics REALLY don’t like those two people to the point they might even give Dobson work if they thought he was annoying either of them ( :optimistic: ).
 
First off, is the EVS stream archived in any way?

Second, it would certainly be a shame if he caught wind of this...wouldn’t It?
I made a post with all the major points.

Okay, this is a quick and dirty edit that I've done during my last hour of work, so apologies.

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At this point I am 99% certain that person is a troon. So yeah, brainwashed, or maybe they sense Dobson is a troon-chaser like Film Robert?

Dobson emulates the Energizer Bunny on the Quiet thread:
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Wait wait wait wait WAIT. So if I'm understanding what Dobson is saying here correctly, he's saying the ogling doesn't necessarily happen unless the PLAYER makes it happen? So then WHAT was this bullshit about "framing" again? He made it sound like the ogling always happens regardless of player actions, thus his shit fit about "framing", as if it's something the player is FORCED into. So then if the player chooses NOT to ogle, it DOESN'T play out that way? Dobson, that literally makes no sense to complain about. Some women WANT to be ogled, because it makes them randy, baby. A computer simulation does not harm anyone including physical actual live flesh-and-blood women. This objection by Dobson makes about as much sense as if someone insisted that Grand Theft Auto needs constant reminders put into it that stealing cars and harming random people is wrong. Who is being harmed by the ogling simulation? A bunch of pixels? :stress sigh: Framing is IRRELEVANT if the player has a choice.

So straight men ogling woman is bad, if someone can't ogle a man in the EXACT same way? Does Dobson not understand how sexuality works? Does he not understand how horny men and women in each other's company work?! Of course he doesn't. Figures.

Some replies to the batman thread:
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a new, STUPID comic, that completely misses the point of the complaints about "the SJW Agenda":
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Oh look a sketch of EVS. Never mind that EVS has NEVER said that women don't belong in <insert media here>. It's about the ideology. It's ALWAYS been about the ideology.

Nigga please. Lets break this down.

1) Ada Lovelace did not create the first computer program. Finding out about Babbage's difference engine (which was never built, and would never have worked without serious modification) she came up with essentially the idea of psuedocode to describe how it might be used. This thought was never expounded on or used in further research, and had to be reinvented 100 years later when there were 'computational machines'.
This is basically "the vikings discovered north america first". Its true they put boots on soil a few centuries before Columbus, but never really did anything with Vinland and eventually abandoned it; when Columbus did land in the Caribbean and started the first on-going settlement, nothing the vikings had done mattered, they fact they'd landed there had no effect on Columbus or those after him.
I got respect for Ada, who was smart and talented lady don't doubt it, but I fucking hate it when people come in with this noise about how she invented computer science.
tl;dr Ada Lovelace was a smart lady who had a remarkable idea no one else at the time had, but her conceptual language was a dead end, and the concept reinvented from scratch later.
edit: Small update, after refreshing my memory she did develop the first ALGORITHM (she figured out how Babbage's machine might have been used compute Bernoulli numbers). She wrote it down, but it is speculated she had significant assistance.

2) Mary Shelley wrote Frankenstein as part of a short-story writing contest with friends, and its idea came from a nightmare she had after watching an early experiment/demonstration where electricity was used to make a dead frog kick, combined with an earlier stillbirth (I'll let you connect the horrifying dots to make this tl;dr less tl). The gothic genre was starting to take off, and Frankenstein caught that wind. But again, she failed to DO anything with it.

3) I just posted a tl;dr about Emma Orczky - she synthized the ideas from other elements. She's also one of the few women on the list who DID do more than a one-and-done. I'm also going to give credit where its due, Dobson walked back "super hero genre" to "masked vigilante" so he's got that one.

4) Their contribution to geekdom was indulging in Marston's love of MFF threesomes and BDSM, also Elizabeth working to provide an income to provide for Herself, Marston, Olive their mutual lover, and the kids Marston had with her and Olive (until Marston hit it big with Wonder Woman). I mean, truly a laudable acheivement more women should emulate, but this is like saying Mary Shelley's husband contributed to Frankenstein by knocking her up with the stillborn fetus.
Also I thought using women as muses was sexist and shit.

5) Accurate, but I don't know that I'd call "writing checks" a huge influence.

6) That is a fucking reach. Bjo Trumble was a Star Trek fan who was one of many who tried (and failed) to save the series after its cancelation. Her main contribution is the fan campaign she started eventually resulted in the first Star Trek convention- she was no longer the leader when that happened. The popularity of Conventions convinced paramount there was still a market, and you got 6 films and eventually TNG. She didn't start the convention or come up with the idea or contrubute in any special way other than being an original founder to of the fan campaign that would do those things. Want to call her the godmother of the Star Trek Convention? Sure. But she didn't save TOS, or the brand.

7) Again, "Saving Star Wars" is a stretch. Marcia made significant changes to the Battle of Yavin, changes which changed the order and direction (then went off to do a paying job editing another movie), and which did inspire Lucas to hire two other male editors to work on other sections of the film.

8) No woman in a hijab has done anything positive for science fiction.

9) If that man is a drunkard, then tell me his brand, and I'll order a case delivered to every general writer in Marvel's stable.

tl;dr: Lots of women have contributed to science fiction, and many have their contributions sidelined or neglected or outshined for male peers. To say that the oxymoron of "geek culture" is solely the product of men is very clearly false. But when you try to do nearly dishonest shit by trying to build those contributions into things they are not, you only make people repeat different falsehoods and lies.
Want to say the Battle of Yavin as we know it is all Marcia, being her edits made big changes to the way it was originally shot? Spot on. Want to say that her edits inspired Lucas to make similar changes to other parts of the film? I'd say that's accurate. But she didn't 'save Star Wars'.

Also, fucking wow Dobson. Your list is 100% white women. Racist much?
 
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I made a post with all the major points.


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I can't figure out who the two women (one in a hijab and the other asian-looking with flexed fists) that Dobson traced for that second-to-last panel. Anybody know who they are? (I THINK that one in the hijab is some comics SJW white convert-to-Islam but I can't remember her name).
 
I can't figure out who the two women (one in a hijab and the other asian-looking with flexed fists) that Dobson traced for that second-to-last panel. Anybody know who they are? (I THINK that one in the hijab is some comics SJW white convert-to-Islam but I can't remember her name).
I think he just threw that image in there as a diversity thing because, like @Ghostse said, he only drew white women.
 
I can't figure out who the two women (one in a hijab and the other asian-looking with flexed fists) that Dobson traced for that second-to-last panel. Anybody know who they are? (I THINK that one in the hijab is some comics SJW white convert-to-Islam but I can't remember her name).

Look for Ms. Marvel fans/"muslim girls love Kamala Khan" sort of shit would be my guess.
 
he knows no woman respects his blue ass, shielding it with his soap box, of course only works to delude himself into feeling is not a loser


lefties are the biggest liars/racists there is , no wonder boddo loves them so much
Honestly, I think Dobson's afraid of women. Not even in a sexist way (though there's plenty of that, of course)-he just finds them intimidating and "otherworldly." Imagine the wheezy, zit-faced nerd in high school who puffs away on his inhaler whenever a girl so much as walks past him, and you got Dobson.
 

How long until Dobson (after his senpais) claim that George Lucas is a racist, sexist, homophobic old man and give him the Stan Lee treatment?
He already did.
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BTW I finally found out/remembered who the hijabed one in Dobson's comic is. It's G Willow Wilson (it was in the tags in the tumblr version of the comic) and she worked on Ms Marvel (the Muslim version). And yeah, she's a late convert to Islam and even lived in Egypt for a few years. Her parents are atheist tho. The other woman in the same frame of the comic, however, is not tagged-in.

Comments on the asspatgram posting of the stupid comic:
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FB side comments: (asspatter dombrosky shows a disturbing side and bonus That Guy asking where x is that wasn't listed)
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Another That Guy in the tumblr side (though justifiably so, IMO):
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He already did.
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BTW I finally found out/remembered who the hijabed one in Dobson's comic is. It's G Willow Wilson (it was in the tags in the tumblr version of the comic) and she worked on Ms Marvel (the Muslim version). And yeah, she's a late convert to Islam and even lived in Egypt for a few years. Her parents are atheist tho. The other woman in the same frame of the comic, however, is not tagged-in.

Comments on the asspatgram posting of the stupid comic:
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FB side comments: (asspatter dombrosky shows a disturbing side and bonus That Guy asking where x is that wasn't listed)
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Another That Guy in the tumblr side (though justifiably so, IMO):
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I gotta take a break from his comments section after the the while Quiet thing.

Also, either Dobson is to triggered by men to say “dickbag”, or he’s too afraid of women being offended to say “douchebag”, but either way he sounds like a petulant child refusing to call Sciver anything other than “d*bag”

Also, made way more money than Dobson ever did online.
 
Another That Guy in the tumblr side (though justifiably so, IMO):
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Grace Hopper is fucking legit, but she didn't invent computer language.
She developed one of the first Linkers - a linker is proto-compiler, a computer utility that combines and tracks independent objects so programmers could refer to them in abstract instead of directly. She also developed/lead the development on the 'A' compiler, which at the time used mathematical symbols to turn math equations into computer instructions, but it is not a language.

She also wrote a paper outlining the need for a programming language understandable and usable by non-mathmaticians. By point Grace was in management and it was her teams, but not her, who put out some early 'compiler languages'.

Her work on linkers, compilers, and her ideas on what would eventually become known as 'programming language' (or more spergfically as "high level programming language" or "Abstract programming language") were highly instrumental in the development of COBOL, one of the first 'modern' programming languages- but she didn't develop COBOL. She served in an advisory capcity on the commitee that developed COBOL.

Her contribution to COBOL is more subtle and as good of a programmer as she was, highlights where she made real, significant, and permanent changes in Computer Science - COBOL was developed by a majority people who had worked for Grace at one point or another. Grace Hopper was by all accounts an amazing boss who did not feel threatened by talented underlings and encouraged them to succeed and surpass her; she didn't need to do anything to develop COBOL to have her fingerprints all over it.
 

How long until Dobson (after his senpais) claim that George Lucas is a racist, sexist, homophobic old man and give him the Stan Lee treatment?

Dunno about those part, but I mostly find it hilarious of people giving George a sudden golden treatment, when same people wanted to crucify his fat ass for both the prequils and the "changes in the original trilogy", but now they turned their tunes.
 
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