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What killed Steve Jobs?

  • Pancreatic Cancer

    Votes: 73 12.1%
  • AIDS from having gay sex with Tim Cook

    Votes: 532 87.9%

  • Total voters
    605
This is just a retarded thought I had while looking for my shoes.

Apple integrates an enclave onto their M series chipset that can hold a correctly formatted model. User can change at will. Almost like a firmware.
They have said in shareholder calls that their AI focus is on personal models, so that’s likely to be where they are going to go with it.

The privacy issues, or potential for them, are a big factor in Apple adopting any new tech, and until they’re satisfied with both the tech and the privacy level of it, they won’t roll anything out.
 
They have said in shareholder calls that their AI focus is on personal models, so that’s likely to be where they are going to go with it.

The privacy issues, or potential for them, are a big factor in Apple adopting any new tech, and until they’re satisfied with both the tech and the privacy level of it, they won’t roll anything out.

I can see it as a privacy thing. Of the majors Apple is the least worst when it comes to protecting privacy. (yes Linux users, I know, but you have to manage your own ).
 
I can see it as a privacy thing. Of the majors Apple is the least worst when it comes to protecting privacy. (yes Linux users, I know, but you have to manage your own ).
I’ve read the whitepaper on how Apple anonymizes data while keeping it distinct, and it is some really amazing stuff.

The amount of effort they put into protecting user privacy is commendable, and the fact that they get usable data from it that allows real analysis without crossing the line is nuts.
 
Can you point me in the direction of this paper? I think I should have a look at it.
Shit, that was over 5 years ago, I’ll see what I can do for you.

Basically, Apple has figured out how to gather info from the spaces between identifiable data to build models that are representative of a user to an almost perfect accuracy, but completely without gathering any directly identifiable information.

That modelling is actually used for their product roadmap, services improvements and other things most other companies give you an anal probe for.
 
Are you talking about Differential Privacy? Its been around for almost a decade (since iOS 11 in 2017)

Apple uses local differential privacy to help protect the privacy of user activity in a
given time period, while still gaining insight that improves the intelligence and
usability of such features as:
• QuickType suggestions
• Emoji suggestions
• Lookup Hints
• Safari Energy Draining Domains
• Safari Autoplay Intent Detection (macOS High Sierra)
• Safari Crashing Domains (iOS 11)
• Health Type Usage (iOS 10.2)


Within the differential privacy framework, there are two settings: central and local. In our system, we choose not to collect raw data on the server which is required for central differential privacy; hence, we adopt local differential privacy, which is a superior form of privacy [3]. Local differential privacy has the advantage that the data is randomized before being sent from the device, so the server never sees or receives raw data.

 
To the people who bought the iPhone 18, how much of a step up do you think it is from previous generations? My mobile plan is due for a renewal and the telco is offering trade-in upgrade deals to the 18 series for the 15-17 series. The offer is always for the last 3 generations only, which means it's my 15's last chance for a trade-in. The only 18s left in stock is the Pro 256GB, which has been more than enough for my 256GB 15 as I store everything on a NAS and prune my apps regularly. The trade-in deal from the 15 takes about $700 off the $1,6k for the base Pro in my freedomless shithole, which is over market value for the 15. My gripe with the 15 is the battery life and bad thermals, especially in sunlight. Is 256GB storage still enough going into the newfangled AI whatever version on the new generation? Is the battery life and vapor chamber aluminum body thermals as good as the Apple fanboys claim to be worth the upgrade?

Asking here because nowhere else on the internet is safe from Apple fanboys and shills. I need a daily driver phone with a stock OS for my bank/payments/digital ID and picked my iOS poison against Googled Android.
 
To the people who bought the iPhone 18, how much of a step up do you think it is from previous generations? My mobile plan is due for a renewal and the telco is offering trade-in upgrade deals to the 18 series for the 15-17 series. The offer is always for the last 3 generations only, which means it's my 15's last chance for a trade-in. The only 18s left in stock is the Pro 256GB, which has been more than enough for my 256GB 15 as I store everything on a NAS and prune my apps regularly. The trade-in deal from the 15 takes about $700 off the $1,6k for the base Pro in my freedomless shithole, which is over market value for the 15. My gripe with the 15 is the battery life and bad thermals, especially in sunlight. Is 256GB storage still enough going into the newfangled AI whatever version on the new generation? Is the battery life and vapor chamber aluminum body thermals as good as the Apple fanboys claim to be worth the upgrade?

Asking here because nowhere else on the internet is safe from Apple fanboys and shills. I need a daily driver phone with a stock OS for my bank/payments/digital ID and picked my iOS poison against Googled Android.

If the $900 would be a painful investment for you and your 15 is still serving you fine, don't upgrade. Wait until either something goes wrong with your current phone or one of the new ones has a feature that you just can't live without. Maybe in your case the battery life would count as one of those features, but presumably you've found ways to get along with it so far, so you'd have to weigh if not having to put up with that anymore would be worth $900 to you right now.

To put it another way, presuming it's still in decent condition, what do you think they're going to do with your 15? Yeah, they're going to resell it to someone else for whom the 15 is good enough. And if it's good enough for them, maybe it's good enough for you too, at least for a couple more years - at which point the 19 will be available on the refurb market itself.

But that's just my personal take. Ultimately nobody can make the decision better than yourself.
 
But that's just my personal take. Ultimately nobody can make the decision better than yourself.
Good points. Silly question on my part as every bi/annual release line from Apple is a mature product and the year-on-year improvements will always be marginal. Apple doesn't want to be bleeding edge anymore, only chinkslop delivers bleeding edge at the risk of the device exploding. The reasons to buy the newest iPhone come down to battery, camera, processing power and the instinct to consume new product. Mostly the last one. My inner consooooooomer normgroid soyjak and ascetic antimaterialist chvddha remain at war with each other for now.

I think Apple might skip the iPhone 19 numbering like they skipped the iPhone 9 because of the 20th anniversary next year. And they might change up the design completely so the iPhone XX looks heckin' new or something. The boring old 18 might be the safer choice...
 
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